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113234   richwicks   2020 Nov 8, 10:13pm  

You mean this "statesman"?

www.youtube.com/embed/7tkBiFZBix0

I do not blame John McCain for making those recordings, but he was no hero.

I disagreed with the Vietnam war, because I know why that war happened. The United States promised Ho Chi Minh liberation from France provided Vietnam would fight on the side of the allies in WWII. The US did not hold up this bargain because France refused to join NATO if the United States supported liberation. France was not needed for NATO, the United States should have told the French to go get fucked, but they didn't, so they entered Vietnam where more than 50,000 Americans were killed, over nothing and Vietnam became independent anyhow.

John McCain got preferential treatment because his father was an Admiral in the Navy. He gave information to the Vietnamese to avoid torture - torture that Admiral Stockdale endured. McCain was a loathesome, vile person. Better people than him endured torture and death, he sold them out for comfort and preferential treatment. He didn't want POWs returning because he feared they would expose him.

It didn't matter a bit of Obomba or Traitor McCain was "elected" to the meat puppet prezidency. They both would have simply taken orders from the intelligence agencies, and carried them out making whatever excuses to their naive supporters to justify whatever atrocity they were nominally responsible for. They weren't competing to be president, they were competing to be cut outs for the intelligence agencies, that's it.

McCain did not help POWs after Vietnam.
113235   richwicks   2020 Nov 8, 11:41pm  

In response to Nomograph:


You have ceased to be credible to me, and I don't believe you are expressing an actual belief you actually believe in.
113236   WookieMan   2020 Nov 9, 12:12am  

Nomograph says
It's virtually impossible to cheat on the scale required to influence a national election.

I actually think most would have agreed with you 4 years ago. Hell even 2 years ago. Instead we've politicized the flu and allowed blanket mail in voting which resulted in almost 20M more votes in a country of 330M and where 1/4-1/3 are children and cannot vote. And 250k of them have died from the flu that caused mail in voting. The vast majority of the increase in vote went to a guy that cannot speak and didn't campaign for months.

I get not everyone registers to vote, but therein lies the problem of mail in voting. You register people, get their mail in ballot and vote for them. There is and was nothing to prevent that. It's also very hard to prove because the person that wasn't registered, very likely gives little shits about politics because they weren't registered.

TL:DR - it's easy to cheat when you look at the math.
113237   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 9, 12:30am  

While all the Gloomers are complaining about Ms. Lindsay, he just turned over half a million of his campaign funds back to Trump.

Lindsay understands the importance of controlling the judiciary and SCOTUS decisions, and they blew a fortune trying to unseat him. So there's self preservation. Without MAGA maniacs on his side, he'll be maximally targeted again in 6 years.

It's also not like Trump can't use his own cash and easily make it back on a book deal or from fans donating. But I doubt he'd even have to do that.
113238   WookieMan   2020 Nov 9, 12:37am  

NoCoupForYou says
Nomograph says
It will be nice to have a First Family that are dog lovers!


Look at those nice three doggies.

Lol. She looks like shit. She's the gal that had potential with her looks, but fucks it up. Is that a wig for Christ sake?

Also, as a current dog owner (formerly had 2), dogs are overrated. I love them, but they're an unmitigated pain in the ass and cost a fuck ton of money. Between kenneling for travel, decent dog food, vet costs and grooming, I'm hitting close to $4k/yr for the god damn dog.

Has nothing to do with my dislike of Biden, but I don't like his breed of dogs.
113239   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 9, 1:24am  

Yep, had this convo with the wife.

No dogs until both kids are old enough to care for them and we have a house with enough property. And you need at least two dogs, esp. if people won't be home for much of the day, or they get upset, they're pack animals after all.
113240   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 9, 2:02am  

As I remember, he also graduated almost last, in his class of at the Naval Academy and should have never been assigned to pilot jets in the First Place.

He caused slammed into the sea while not paying attention in his Skyraider in Texas and slammed into Corpus Christi Bay in 1960. He swam to the surface after his aircraft settled in the very shallow water. $$$

He knocked out a third of the power in Spain for several hours in 1961 by trying to fly under Electric Lines, and probably caused a good year or so average American's wage to his aircraft, repaired at taxpayer expense. I imagine the taxpayer footed the bill for the infrastructure damage. $$$

Then he crashed another Training aircraft in 1962. $$$

It would be unbelievable that such a sloppy, irresponsible pilot would be allowed to continue as a Naval Aviator after 3 accidents, all negligent or intentionally reckless, in less than 3 years. He would have been sent back to repeat parts of flight school under close supervision and a skeptical eye, and very likely relegated to cargo or land based patrol aircraft after passing it. Anybody else wouldn't be allowed back in a combat aircraft unless there was a major shortage of personnel and a dire need for pilots (like a war outbreak).

Later, a rocket off was claimed to hit his A-4 on the carrier Forrestal, killing and injuring over 100. Given McCains proximity to other disasters, one wonders.

And that's all pre-POW, where he was treated like Royalty the moment the Vietnamese realized who he was. He probably cost the modern equivalent of Tens of Millions of dollars in direct damages to aircraft and his surroundings due to non-combat incidents during his career as an aviator. That's not including his shotdown A-4
113241   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Nov 9, 2:12am  

Also, and sorry if this is controversial - but tortured people, or people put in gulags or camps for long periods - often have major personality changes.

McCain's behavior towards his family upon his return was despicable. This is not unusual in long term POWs/Camp Residents/etc.

I would personally NOT vote for one for any office.
113242   WookieMan   2020 Nov 9, 3:17am  

It's not even trolling anymore. It's pure delusion. John McCain???
113243   WookieMan   2020 Nov 9, 3:29am  

NoCoupForYou says
we have a house with enough property.

Another cost... we have a fenced yard when we bought. It's a must if you want dogs or you have to get multiple acres. All expensive. Just for dogs. Unless that's what you wanted without dogs.

I won't get it done this year, but pressure washing 400 linear feet of 6' cedar fencing and staining is no easy task. Only got through about 20' and then broke my heel. Took about 8 hours and is a messy fucking job. I guesstimate if I paid someone I'd be looking at $1,500-2,000 in labor. Stain was another $1k. Besides me finishing the basement, I'd never have thought upkeep of the fence would be the 2nd biggest project on this house. Abandoned and foreclosed for 4 years before we took over, so there were projects galore. Now the wife out of nowhere this week wants to buy a lot and build. Ugh. I guess the average span is 7 years for a reason. Women are strange.
113244   WookieMan   2020 Nov 9, 3:53am  

Lol. I love posts like this. The billionaire that beat Hillary by spending substantially less cash. Almost like you’re still upset that Hillary lost. Oh wait, you are.

I sure hope your conviction in Biden is strong. These posts have the potential to haunt you. The election is not officially over regardless of what the media tells you. The fun part is I can live with Biden, so the outcome is moot for me. So your constant dancing in the grave of the Dem party is kind of funny.
113245   WookieMan   2020 Nov 9, 4:43am  

Nomograph says
These people are complete buffoons.

Sounds like the words of a nervous person. You likely didn't manage to listen to the content of the press conference? Just focused on location. Congrats.

You might want to wake up man. When the President elect didn't campaign at all, that's a pretty large warning signal. You can hate Trump, but if you don't see what's going on, I hope there aren't more out there like you.
113246   Tenpoundbass   2020 Nov 9, 7:17am  

Lin Wood is going to do it for Free.

Don't worry about Trump's finances Nomo G, Trump has much more experience than those Twinks over at the Hill.

Besides don't you know Trump is still loaded. He only pays $750 in income taxes, haven't you heard?

What a maroon.
113247   Tenpoundbass   2020 Nov 9, 7:19am  

Be genuine, the Dow is soaring because Phiser Covid Vax has been approved Coinkidink the Democunts think they've won.
Watch them all back pedal when Trump rips the rug out from under them.
113248   B.A.C.A.H.   2020 Nov 9, 7:28am  

There are exceptions, of course, like someone who may have been attacked by a vicious dog in childhood.

But for the most part, I don't trust people who don't like dogs. And BTW, that doesn't mean Cat People. There's many Cat Lovers who don't dislike dogs, even among Crazy Cat Ladies.

Dogs and we humans grew up and evolved together. Our cross species affinity is probably hard wired in our genes.
113249   clambo   2020 Nov 9, 7:30am  

My campaign contribution in 2016 was less than lunch at The Woods restaurant.
It has paid me a gigantic return.

I’m sending him a few bucks today, since my net worth just jumped another $75,000 this morning.

I guess I can afford to roll the dice.
113250   clambo   2020 Nov 9, 7:34am  

It’s rising on the vaccines
113251   B.A.C.A.H.   2020 Nov 9, 7:42am  

You guys crack me up.

The virus will run its course throughout the world long before any effective vaccine becomes a panacea.

Let's see how the economy is after the virus (and responses to it) have run their course.

I suppose that will be about 1.5 - 2 years from now.
113252   Tenpoundbass   2020 Nov 9, 8:18am  

B.A.C.A.H. says
The virus will run its course throughout the world long before any effective vaccine becomes a panacea.



No doubt the Vaccine becomes like a Good guy with a gun.

The only way to stop a globalist with a Scamdemic, is a good guy with a vaccine.

It pulled the teeth out of their bite, Regardless if anyone ever takes it or not.
113253   zzyzzx   2020 Nov 9, 8:38am  

113254   Patrick   2020 Nov 11, 11:16am  

Added internal links so you can pull up any chapter you know the name of like this in the case of the "Diversity" chapter:

https://patrick.net/post/1336214/2020-10-31-readme#Diversity
113255   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2020 Nov 11, 11:40am  

Patrick says
Added internal links so you can pull up any chapter you know the name of like this in the case of the "Diversity" chapter:

https://patrick.net/post/1336214/2020-10-31-readme#Diversity


That's good.

If you are interested. I think there are two kinds of "diversities". One that happens naturally, the other one is artificial one where government starts social engineering. Latter creates major problems because it is not natural and it adds all those problems you talked about.

Point is you can force people to live together using force, but you can't make them like each other no matter how much force you use.
113256   HeadSet   2020 Nov 11, 11:47am  

Point is you can force people to live together using force, but you can't make them like each other no matter how much force you use.

Yes, and even peoples that have been living together fine for hundreds of years can suddenly be at each others throats, like in Serbia and Rwanda. At the time, I was wondering if there was some kind of "locust" instinct that suddenly changes people.
113257   NDrLoR   2020 Nov 11, 1:30pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
you can force people to live together using force
Which is what busing was all about and why Commie Harris is such a proponent of it and why she savaged Biden as a racist in an earlier debate because he opposed it.
113258   NDrLoR   2020 Nov 11, 1:35pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
there are two kinds of "diversities". One that happens naturally
Which is what the United States is all about, the most diverse country that ever existed, contains every race that ever existed, but under one American ideal. That''s what's being destroyed today with phony PC based diversity quotas.
113259   EBGuy   2020 Nov 11, 2:51pm  

Was getting worried. Glad to see you made it out of the bunker.
113260   ignoreme   2020 Nov 13, 3:25am  

If you’re going to post an article debunking the voter fraud claims, then you should make sure the article you link actually addresses the claims.

The first link just says they are debunked by others and links to snopes and ny times. Snopes just goes and asks CIA people if hammer and scorecard exists then attacks the whistle blower.

The NY Times article doesn’t even address the claims.

Why is it that as republicans in general as measured by straight party votes become more popular do Trump votes in non straight ballots become less likely? Why does this follow a linear pattern?

Why in the Edison time series tracking data do the Trump / Biden percentages change but the total votes cast do not? Why is it when this happens it is 100% always against Trump?

Please let’s have a debate. I’m 100% open minded and I’d accept any reasonable explanation for these irregularities.
113261   ignoreme   2020 Nov 13, 4:05am  

Straw man. No one claimed Edison did the research. The research was done by users on thedonald.win using the Edison time series data. They have posted the data, their code, and snippets from the data showing examples of flipping.
113262   ignoreme   2020 Nov 13, 4:07am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
Fifield says that the basis for these claims is data analysis from Edison Research, an exit-polling and vote-reporting firm that provides election data to many news outlets,


This is not a quote, so I doubt he actually said it, but even if he did, he was mistaken and it doesn’t change the facts.
113263   ignoreme   2020 Nov 13, 4:14am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
One America News Network anchor Lilia Fifield claimed in a recent segment that according to recent analysis of data from Edison Research


The first sentence in the article is correct, there is no claim that the analysis came from Edison.

Then the author of the piece flips some words around and claims the Fifield person stated the analysis came from Edison, then uses that as an excuse to ask Edison if they did the report, which they of course deny creating. Case closed!
113264   ignoreme   2020 Nov 13, 4:30am  

Why don’t you go look at the post and give a real criticism of it. They are being completely transparent, posting their code and the raw data from Edison.

The examples they give of vote flipping in the data itself is easy to understand, even if you are non technical.

https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8O2wesk/happening-calling-every-pede-to-/
113265   zzyzzx   2020 Nov 13, 4:36am  

Real mature there AF. Your TDS is showing.
113266   WookieMan   2020 Nov 13, 4:47am  

ignoreme says
Why don’t you go look at the post and give a real criticism of it.

Because he can't. Love AF, but statistical anomalies are almost impossible to explain when there is past data to reference to. This election is not normal and mail in ballots are not the reason and the data shows that. The problem is politics. No one wants to be associated with a loser and they'll defend that blindly.
113267   ignoreme   2020 Nov 13, 5:20am  

It’s not a statistical anomaly is the thing. The Edison data literally shows percentages changing between Donald Trump and Joe Biden while the votes remain the same.

There could be an innocent explanation for it. All it would take is some reporter from the NY Times to ask the Edison rep to get one of the nerds who designed the system to explain it.

Why don’t they do it?
113268   mell   2020 Nov 13, 7:59am  

They were targeted / doxxed by the Lincoln project. They did that to protect their employees. Cmon man what are you a joanie?!
113269   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Nov 13, 8:01am  

DemocrTs don’t want to see just how far left is taking this election.

They unleashed BLM to riot, burn, murder and they all were ok with it.
113270   Tenpoundbass   2020 Nov 13, 10:34am  

This Law Firm wont even fight for their own rights, who in the hell would hire them to fight for theirs?
113271   Ceffer   2020 Nov 13, 11:24am  

So, they found their Epstein tapes.
113272   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Nov 13, 11:25am  

How is this “news”?
113273   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2020 Nov 13, 11:35am  

That's not enough. To truly denounce orange man, racism, and toxic whiteness, one must prove allegiance to the non-racist party by kissing some random BLMers ass for at least a week straight without taking a break. Anything less means fucking racist and not a true ally of the people-of-color!!!


Why am I getting better than AF at this? AF you got to step up your game man.

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