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Dbr6 says

I am thinking of buying a hundred acres or so within a couple of hours form where I live, but good plots go very quickly these days.

Do your research big time on farmland. It is an easy carry if you have the cash, but there's considerations like soil quality, drainage, location, etc. The farmers are all experts in this and will screw you every chance they get. Like any industry. Also, from my experience when you go to sell it, the neighboring farmer usually is the one that wants to buy it unless there's industrial, retail or residential development coming. That's when you make bank from appreciation. Or even develop it yourself if you're inclined to (pain in the ass, but where the $$$$ is).

G36 says

exactly! There will never be more than 21M Bitcoin! You finally got the scarcity part down!

Artificial scarcity. Actual scarcity, like the above farmland comment is of actual value. As cities grow and suburban subdivisions pop up there's less farming land. Thing is that land feeds livestock and people. Bitcoin does none of that. BTC literally does nothing except pay electric utilities a fuck ton. It's why BTC is a trading tool. Not an asset or investment. There's no actual value at all, which is why you guys get so defensive. And I think you know it.

Wookie says
"artificial scarcity"

no shit Sherlock. What do you think programmable money is? Bitcoin doesnt grow on a farm, so it cant be naturally scarce.
You just cant help but keep embarrassing yourself?

WookieMan says

Do your research big time on farmland. It is an easy carry if you have the cash, but there's considerations like soil quality, drainage, location, etc. The farmers are all experts in this and will screw you every chance they get. Like any industry. Also, from my experience when you go to sell it, the neighboring farmer usually is the one that wants to buy it unless there's industrial, retail or residential development coming. That's when you make bank from appreciation. Or even develop it yourself if you're inclined to (pain in the ass, but where the $$$$ is).

I am thinking of it as partially investment, partially possibility to get out of city if things go south, and partially place where I can retire. This creates a lot of restrictions wrt what I will buy, thus making process slow. Best would be something that has about 50% farmland and 50% forest for hunting, some water as in a permanent stream, and away from E. Texas whiggers/coonasses who will screw you over whenever possible (that is what my W Texas redneck friends are telling me, although I do not know how much truth is in it. Perhaps it is their perception that everyone who lives in swamp is evil). I know enough friendly locals to figure out if area is decent or not.

Wookie says
"which is why you guys get so defensive."

there is no need to get the defensive. Your comments are the laughing stock. You cant afford a fraction of one Bitcoin and tell us you would have "sold everything at 18k". A minute later you tell us you only care about 6 figure gains. You lost it and dont know what you are writing. At this point you throw whatever BS comes to mind in the hopes that something will stick.

My suggestion: talk on topics you actually know something about or have a stake in.

WookieMan says

It's why BTC is a trading tool.

No. It's a speculative scheme that depends on incoming money to pay the power bills. The only way out is to find someone to buy it from you. Bitcoin has no practical use and takes the equivalent of two years of power for the average American home to "mine" one bitcoin.

Having said that my eleven satoshis should be worth millions when btc shoots for the moon.

Onvacation says

Having said that my eleven satoshis should be worth millions when btc shoots for the moon.

So btc trolls did make you to buy some, lol. This is the sole reason for their activity.

G36 says

Wookie says
"artificial scarcity"

no shit Sherlock. What do you think programmable money is? Bitcoin doesnt grow on a farm, so it cant be naturally scarce.
You just cant help but keep embarrassing yourself?

Lol, I'm totally embarrassed ;) You keep falling in the traps and don't know it. That's the sad part. Enjoy dude. You have no clue what you're doing. Programable money.... lol.

FuckCCP89 says

Onvacation says

Having said that my eleven satoshis should be worth millions when btc shoots for the moon.

So btc trolls did make you to buy some, lol. This is the sole reason for their activity.

FuckCCP, respectfully, I disagree.
This run is driven by institutions. Nobody here can make the smallest dent in Bitcoins price. Square, PayPal, Guggenheimer, hedge funds are pouring millions of USD into Bitcoin. Sure, some people like Wookie pretend they are big shots but in reality they cant buy a single Bitcoin.

OnVacation puts his money into physical silver coins. I think he should just keep doing this.

Nobody here wants to convince you to buy crypto. Just please stick around when the euphoria starts. I want to see the reactions :)

Wookie says
"I'm totally embarrassed"

I know. And I have a feeling there will be many more laughable comments by you, Mr. "artificial scarcity" and "sold everything at 18k".

G36 says

Wookie says
"I'm totally embarrassed"

I know. And I have a feeling there will be many more laughable comments by you, Mr. "artificial scarcity" and "sold everything at 18k".

New name, same old stupidity. Enjoy your BTC. You don't know what you're doing. Enjoy your unrealized "euphoria" as you say. lol. Oh wait, we all know there's nothing for you to realize as you don't have anything in BTC. Maybe $100. Congrats on the big win champ!

Sad part is there are people here that have actually given good investment advice in the past. They make you look bad. Oh well.

WookieMan says

Do your research big time on farmland. It is an easy carry if you have the cash,

Back in the early 70's, the brother-in-law of my friend's wife who was living in Houston loved to hunt in the area of a little town called Dime Box, kind of in southeast Texas. He liked it so much he bought 100 acres at $1,000 an acre and built a small cabin on it for when he went hunting. We all laughed at him at how he was going to be paying for that land for the rest of his life. This was just before the OPEC oil embargo and the oil price spike. The price of the land included the minerals and when a test well was drilled it turned out to be a bonanza--they were guaranteed a minimum of $60K a year as far as they could see. They quit their jobs in Houston, moved to Dime Box and built a lovely house onto the cabin and lived productive lives for the next 20 years. He joined the law enforcement of the area and eventually became sheriff, she was a high school teacher. Sadly, he passed away around 2000 from Hodgkin's disease and is buried on the property. The house sits atop a beautiful hill that is terraced down to a small lake and his widow still lives there.

NDrLoR says

Dime Box

That's a nice area - Lake Somerville is close by.

G36 says

Bitcoin doesnt grow on a farm

Of course not!
It's "mined" on a farm.

Kevin O'Leary buys BTC as well now. I guess everyone with money wants some digital gold!

https://cointelegraph.com/news/pomp-talks-shark-tank-s-kevin-o-leary-into-buying-a-little-more-bitcoin

WookieMan says

G36 says

Wookie says
"I'm totally embarrassed"

I know. And I have a feeling there will be many more laughable comments by you, Mr. "artificial scarcity" and "sold everything at 18k".

New name, same old stupidity. Enjoy your BTC. You don't know what you're doing. Enjoy your unrealized "euphoria" as you say. lol. Oh wait, we all know there's nothing for you to realize as you don't have anything in BTC. Maybe $100. Congrats on the big win champ!

Sad part is there are people here that have actually given good investment advice in the past. They make you look bad. Oh well.

That's all you got, big shot? What a big attack that I need to defend. I am starting to feel sorry for you, lol

Onvacation says

G36 says

Bitcoin doesnt grow on a farm

Of course not!

See, even onvacation learns....and thats probably why he bought Bitcoin now. Education wins. You would hope wookie would learn slowly but his learning curve is more like a flat line.

G36 says

Onvacation says

G36 says

Bitcoin doesnt grow on a farm

Of course not!

See, even onvacation learns....and thats probably why he bought Bitcoin now. Education wins. You would hope wookie would learn slowly but his learning curve is more like a flat line.

Not even my comment and I've gotcha thinking about me. Insecure much? lol.

G36 says

See, even onvacation learns....and thats probably why he bought Bitcoin now. Education wins. You would hope wookie would learn slowly but his learning curve is more like a flat line.

How many satoshis do you own?

My satoshis are worth approximately 17/100ths of a cent in US fiat money. It's hard to keep track.

I am glad you finally bought a fraction of a Bitcoin, onvacation! Congrats!

WookieMan says

G36 says

Of course not!

See, even onvacation learns....and thats probably why he bought Bitcoin now. Education wins. You would hope wookie would learn slowly but his learning curve is more like a flat line.
I've gotcha thinking about me.

Of course! Your comments are the most hilarious ones on here.

"I'm good with 9%" oh yeah, so how much have you invested, in order to make a 9% a six figure gain? Since you also said, you only care about "six figure gains"

"Bitcoin is not backed by anything" No shit Sherlock. Thats the point of being decentralized.

"Artificial Scarcity" No shit Sherlock. How could a digital asset be "naturally" scarce?

Keep the BS coming. Apparently, you don't care how idiotic you sound.

WookieMan says

G36 says

Onvacation says

G36 says

Bitcoin doesnt grow on a farm

Of course not!

See, even onvacation learns....and thats probably why he bought Bitcoin now. Education wins. You would hope wookie would learn slowly but his learning curve is more like a flat line.

Not even my comment and I've gotcha thinking about me. Insecure much? lol.

Of Course!

Your comments have been quite entertaining. Keep the BS coming.

"I would have sold everything at 18k" Oh really, you said this right after the correction occurred. A 7 year old can call a local top after the event happened. But why would you have sold "EVERYTHING" if you only care about 6 figure gains?

"I'm good with 9%" Oh really, so how much have you invested to make the 9% a six figure gain. Since you said, you only care about 6 figure gains, big shot? We'll never see a screenshot! Especially funny, since you dont own even a fraction of one BTC.

"Bitcoin is not backed by anything" no shit, the entire point of being decentralized.

"articifical scarcity" noooo shit. How could a digital asset be naturally scarce?

I dont know if you can top this, but we'll see.

G36 says

I am glad you finally bought a fraction of a Bitcoin, onvacation! Congrats!

I can't wait until my bitcoin holdings reach a penny in fiat.

Onvacation says

G36 says

I am glad you finally bought a fraction of a Bitcoin, onvacation! Congrats!

I can't wait until my bitcoin holdings reach a penny in fiat.

Buying Bitcoin is a great first start onvacation. Now you are invested and continue to learn.

G36 says

invested

Gambled. I'm a nickel slot kind of guy.

When's the moonshot?

G36 says

Oh really, so how much have you invested to make the 9% a six figure gain. Since you said, you only care about 6 figure gains, big shot?

Hundreds of thousands. Multiple avenues. I like real estate. We have your standard 401k between the wife and I, both having made 6 figure gains the last 3 years. That wouldn't have happened with BTC over the last 3 year outside of day trading. Sorry. It's not the best asset class by a long shot. It's comical to call it an asset or investment as you guys do.

I'm not a big shot by any means. I save. I don't gamble. I operate a business. I have plenty of skills and means to make large sums of money and not go for a Hail Mary with crypto. I sleep well at night unlike everyone I know that holds crypto. It's delusional. I've made more off passive investments the last three years than any of the crypto cult. Enjoy the pump now. Comes down faster than it went up. I've seen this story before and you guys that gloat about paper gains, but then shit your pants the second the big boys start selling. You ain't a big boy and you'll be the one losing the most. Not sure how many ways I can warn you. Happened last time and that tool disappeared when he lost his ass in BTC on this forum.

So you told us you would have sold everything at 18k but tell us you only care about six figure gains. How does that make any sense?
You tell us about these alleged six figure gains without any screenshots but tell us you are fine with 9% gains. Sure, big shot. Sure.

Btw., Thanks for showing us your ignorance once again:

"Sorry. It's not the best asset class by a long shot."

Bitcoin Is Outperforming Every Mainstream Asset Class in 2020
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-is-outperforming-every-mainstream-asset-class-in-2020

At this point I believe you don't know what you are writing.

G36 says

Btw., Thanks for showing us your ignorance once again:

"Sorry. It's not the best asset class by a long shot."

WookieMan says

I've made more off passive investments the last three years than any of the crypto cult.

Reading buddy. Reading....

Crypto did nothing for three years. Same will happen again. I made more money in stocks and real estate than anyone invested in BTC the last 3 years. I don't dox myself and I'm too lazy to make up screen shots like you did. Enjoy the ride. Ultimately you'll freak out and be catching falling knives when your tiny vacation paper gains turns into a loss. You'd move on from commenting back at me if you weren't scared. You are. You should be. I'm solid and doing well. No need to chase get rich quick schemes. Just rich for my age.

ROFL, sure, big shot, everyone can make up stuff online. Now you are telling us you have outperformed Bitcoin? Just recently you told us you are fine with 9%.

your story gets wilder and wilder. You just cant keep a story straight or stick with anything you said.

For your education/perspective:

G36 says

everyone can make up stuff online.

Yup.

They even made up some online "currencies" to fool some rubes into thinking it was as good as BETTER than gold.

Yes, its much better than gold. Bitcoin is gold 2.0. / Digital Gold. You know how divisible it is, how scarce, how decentralized. Probably the reason why you started investing in it. And, its smart money! programmable! Try connecting your silver coin or 100 dollar bill to a laptop. Lol.

G36 says

Try connecting your silver coin or 100 dollar bill to a laptop

Good luck. All these comments have clearly sailed over your head with what you just said here. Good luck on your trading.

all these comments have been very entertaining. You are leading. G36 says

ROFL, sure, big shot, everyone can make up stuff online. Now you are telling us you have outperformed Bitcoin? Just recently you told us you are fine with 9%.

your story gets wilder and wilder. You just cant keep a story straight or stick with anything you said.

For your education/perspective:

Wookie, no comment, big shot?

I am kinda torn on bitcoins, but the graph here seems to be created by bitcoin fans for bitcoin fans. How come gold is centralized? And how come its supply is moderate? Also, at this point saying that bitcoins are "easily transactable" is wrong - I can't pay with them at my grocery store.

G36 says

Yes, its much better than gold. Bitcoin is gold 2.0. / Digital Gold. You know how divisible it is, how scarce, how decentralized. Probably the reason why you started investing in it. And, its smart money! programmable! Try connecting your silver coin or 100 dollar bill to a laptop. Lol.

Dbr6 says

I am kinda torn on bitcoins, but the graph here seems to be created by bitcoin fans for bitcoin fans. How come gold is centralized? And how come its supply is moderate? Also, at this point saying that bitcoins are "easily transactable" is wrong - I can't pay with them at my grocery store.

G36 says

Yes, its much better than gold. Bitcoin is gold 2.0. / Digital Gold. You know how divisible it is, how scarce, how decentralized. Probably the reason why you started investing in it. And, its smart money! programmable! Try connecting your silver coin or 100 dollar bill to a laptop. Lol.

gold is moderate in "predictable supply". You think you found it all until you discover more. Cant happen with Bitcoin.
Thats not the meaning of easily transactable. You can send crypto/Bitcoin within seconds on an app. You cant just send someone gold within seconds. What you pay for with Bitcoin is a totally different criteria. Bitcoin is seen as a store of value, not as a day-to-day currency.
Think about it this way, why should I have paid with a few bitcoins for a cup of coffee a few years ago? Now, I can buy a car with it.
I would never want to spend my precious Bitcoins because a year later they are worth multiple times more. Its an excellent inflation hedge.

G36 says

Incredible. Leaked Citibank report reveals Citibank analysts estimate Bitcoin will rocket to 300k by end of 2021! Imagine what that will do to the haters who hope it will go to zero. Lol

Why do people assume that they found something that was "leaked" instead of concluding that they may be reading propaganda in which, supposedly, data was "leaked"? The only time you MIGHT be reading data that was leaked is when it shows the company in a bad light or shows criminal intent.

You know how simple it is to destroy a cryptocurrency? There's just a few major exchanges, all you need to do is turn those servers off, and the blockchain ends. Destroy those servers and that the data is unrecoverable.

My bet is that much of the information for these exchanges are actually on virtual machines. Consider the possibility that are stored on AWS - Amazon WebServer.

You don't know who created these, you don't understand the math, you've never moved any "currency" from one wallet to another. This is clearly a Ponzi scheme, however, people got rich off from Ponzi schemes too.

sleek Litecoin credit card.
buy anything with crypto. Mass adoption is happening rapidly.

https://litecoin.getblockcard.com/

https://cointelegraph.com/news/first-litecoin-native-visa-debit-card-is-being-launched

richwicks says

There's just a few major exchanges, all you need to do is turn those servers off, and the blockchain ends. Destroy those servers and that the data is unrecoverable.

My bet is that much of the information for these exchanges are actually on virtual machines. Consider the possibility that are stored on AWS - Amazon WebServer.

You don't know who created these, you don't understand the math, you've never moved any "currency" from one wallet to another.

Yes, I have moved Bitcoin from wallet to wallet. Easy.
Shut exchanges down? Sure, go for it. Wake us up when it happens.
The US government has a clear interest in another crypto boom. Higher tax revenues. More jobs. Either we do it in the US or let China run the show. Your comments were not well thought-out.

G36 says

Higher tax revenues.

More contradiction with each post. How is it "highly decentralized" if it can be taxed? Lol. Our government can take your home if you don't pay taxes on gains. Crypto or otherwise That's not decentralized by any means. Unless you're trading flash drives and pieces of paper and passwords with BTC on it, the government knows what you're doing using exchanges. Anything that touches a computer or server is trackable and traceable. Unless it's deleted, which in BTC hardware wallet means you lost all your money.

G36 says

Shut exchanges down? Sure, go for it. Wake us up when it happens.

It will. And it will happen when you least expect it. You likely won't be awake actually. Stop losses won't prevent massive losses because they'll get blown through. You'll be sleeping and at 3pm in China the rug will get pulled out from under you.

Your confidence is cracking. With each comment that is valid against Crypto, you get even more defensive. Dbr6 pointed out flaws and you jumped on him right away. "Your comments were not well thought-out." Who does that? You can post charts from other websites until you're fingers go numb, but you've yet to explain how and why BTC will go to $300k. Links to coin desk and the like are pure propaganda as other users have mentioned. Why do YOU think it will go to $300k? No links. No copy paste. YOU explain it.

G36 says

Yes, I have moved Bitcoin from wallet to wallet. Easy.

Sure it's easy. What did it cost you to do it? What was the transaction fee, and how long did it take?

In the early days it was free, today, it's not. It's always been time consuming.

It's not workable as a currency simply because of the transaction time. You can reduce transaction time by offering to increase the fee for the transaction. If many people try to make transactions, the fees are untenable. Blockchains are nothing more than distributed databases, and in order to access them in a timely manner, there is a cost and the faster you want to do a transaction, the more expensive it is to do.

It's not a currency at all. It's just a scam, but you can make lots of money off from a scam I admit. It will never replace the current system because of the length of time to do transactions. It's a curse to realize a problem well before anybody else does. I know the system cannot work, but most people do not realize it won't work, so there is opportunity there, but I consider it immoral to take advantage of ignorance so I do not engage. Morality + knowledge = poverty. That's the world I live in. Ethics is severely punished.