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Not me and that’s a hard pass, as in never.
I know a few who’ve had it though, and others who are waiting like cowards. Supposedly next month the supply will exceed the demand for the experimental medicine.

Most of my colleagues have, or claim to have taken both doses. We are still working mostly remote.

One woman in her early 50's bought all the propaganda from the beginning. Smart, doctorate degree, petite, curly hair, beautiful. She wore a mask. Then a mask and a shield. And finally she settled on the dual mask configuration.

She could not wait for her turn.

After the first dose she went into a brain fog. Her complexion changed. She seemed agitated.

She took the second dose a couple weeks ago. She said that it was ok at first but after a couple days I talked to her and she said it was hitting her hard, no time for details.

I saw her on a Zoom meeting yesterday. I am worried about her. She looked disheveled and distracted. I hope the experimental biologic agent causes her no permanent damage. She was active and healthy, very healthy.

I hope the prevention is not worse than the disease.

They're going to have to use a dart gun to vaccinate me. And I might shoot back.

I got Pfizer early on. 1st shot made me feel like crap. 2nd shot absolutely fucking wrecked me for 5 days. I was lethargic the following week after that. My whole family got covid last week. I can confirm, the vaccine actually did work as I ate my son's leftover pizza and he was coughing in my face all day. They all tested positive but I was negative. But yes, getting covid is probably easier than the vaccine for anyone under 40.

It isn't just the immediate illnesses from the two shots. Wherever in your body the mRNA is producing antigenic proteins can become focal points for antigenic assault. The next time the body is challenged, the immune system will go after those tissues, too. There is also the possibility the they are including mRNA that have nothing to do with Covid antigenic activation, they could just be triggers for different agents that can be released as 'secondary activation poisons' in the future.

Why would anybody trust entities who planned for decades all manner of psychopathic mayhem on the human race under guise of a faked pandemic, and have been quite open in their projections of genocide and social control by medical modalities?

I'd be worried about general inflammatory responses from the body attacking "infected" tissue. Anybody who has allergies knows how you can feel flu like and pretty wrecked with almost all the symptoms just from allergens / seasonal allergies. It's a bodies natural response but it is powerful and if it goes attacking the tissue in a chronic manner nothing good can come out of it. There are so many therapies today that turn even a severe case into a mild one if given on time, why bother with an experimental biological agent. Not to mention ADE down the road. So thanks but no thanks.

I got a Moderna shot a month ago.
I didn't feel sick afterwards.

I just got a Moderna #2 shot 8 hours ago.
I feel fine.

I might feel sick tomorrow.

I'm not looking forward the the possible premature demises of people around me.

Ceffer says

the possible premature demises of people around me.

Liked because I agree. Disliked because it's probable.

Sounds like they are going to try to force fucking vaccine passports on Americans next.

We will be coerced into the vaccination. Like, if we want to do certain stuff. Also some employers may start to require it.

The 'brain fog' stuff is pretty real in the people we know. It's like rapid brain aging, or a mild closed head injury with short term and some long term memory blown. I don't know if that's permanent or temporary.

Yikes Dozens in Central Florida contract COVID-19 after being fully vaccinated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnmN2WrU8pE

Nope, not getting shot with that shit no matter what.

Lot of business are opening and expecting some % to be in the office from next week. Some folks already got it at (far leftist) work place. I am nervous that employer might force indirectly and track since I have to be in the building occasionally. The young and normal looking woman in admin side passed away recently. No disclosure of the any information on what happened.

mich says

Yikes Dozens in Central Florida contract COVID-19 after being fully vaccinated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnmN2WrU8pE

You can tell from the white coat con man in the video that they have their fake news scripts and actors already worked out for: vaccine not working. What that smirking fuck said is pure bullshit. Anybody below 60 in reasonable health have virtually zero chance of serious illness or hospitalization from "Covid" anyway. I already know somebody who may have died and another hospitalized from the vaccine. The dead guy doesn't have to worry about Covid any more, but the hospitalized lady can still get it?

I am sure they have their script baloney all worked out for all of the eventualities.

just_passing_through says

Sounds like they are going to try to force fucking vaccine passports on Americans next.

Whoever "they" are should die. Let me know if that comment is out of bounds Patrick. Don't want to get anyone in trouble.

B.A.C.A.H. says

We will be coerced into the vaccination. Like, if we want to do certain stuff. Also some employers may start to require it.

How is that legal though? It's one thing to require a helmet at a construction site. To be forced to be ingested with something is another thing in my world. Anti-vaxxer's get their kids in public schools all the time. What is the difference now? Not saying it cannot happen and this is more of an open ended question/comment.

I've never worked a corporate job or government job, so maybe I'm naive. Don't think I could work for a corp that makes me get a shot though. But I get people have to make ends meet. I won't touch the vaccine for 5 years minimum. Nobody has any idea of any long term effects. That's fact. I keep hearing that it is a classic flu shot that you need to get annually for it to be effective. Count me out on a virus vaccine for my age that has something like a 99.99% survival rate. A vaccine that still doesn't stop the spread of it as well. Just doesn't make you sick.

theoakman says

I got Pfizer early on. 1st shot made me feel like crap. 2nd shot absolutely fucking wrecked me for 5 days. I was lethargic the following week after that. My whole family got covid last week. I can confirm, the vaccine actually did work as I ate my son's leftover pizza and he was coughing in my face all day. They all tested positive but I was negative. But yes, getting covid is probably easier than the vaccine for anyone under 40.

Could it be possible that your family got sick, because you got the "jab?"

I can deal with short-term, temporary pain, but I'm more worried about long-term/permanent effects. I've read that when they tested mRNA vaccines on rats, it ultimately killed them because it made their immune response go hyperactive when exposed to viruses in the wild. This RNA "messaging" can't be undone.

Blue says

I am nervous that employer might force indirectly and track since I have to be in the building occasionally

That’s illegal. It’s an experimental drug and can’t be mandated. If the employer approaches you about it, just give them the contact for your lawyer. Lawyers scare everyone. Honestly I wouldn’t even explain myself to such an employer. For anything political like the vaccine, just have your lawyer do all the talking.

joshuatrio says

Could it be possible that your family got sick, because you got the "jab?"

As much as I dislike the vaccine, it doesn’t work that way. I’m very concerned, however, about long-term issues with autoimmune disease. Everything from Crohns to lupus to MS and psoriasis and cancer are possible from immune system malfunction. Even sudden death from weirder immune responses, which have claimed almost 2000 lives so far from the vaccine.

I deeply mistrust the government and the vaccine. If you were to go about removing a great swath of the population who were the least useful to society, this would be a great way to do it. Oldsters and white collar parasites with Leftist proclivities would fall like barley stalks before the thresher. Thanks to the prohibition on vaccinating children, the younger generations would survive to become workers. And the eaters would be dead and gone.

Just a possibility, but one I can’t rule out. I guess we will see who is right a couple years from now, and who is dead.

Shaman says

As much as I dislike the vaccine, it doesn’t work that way. I’m very concerned, however, about long-term issues with autoimmune disease. Everything from Crohns to lupus to MS and psoriasis and cancer are possible from immune system malfunction. Even sudden death from weirder immune responses, which have claimed almost 2000 lives so far from the vaccine.

Understand, but this is why I thought it was a possibility based on the below research:

"The FDA confirms that the 1st vaccine dose correlates with increased COVID-19 infections. "Suspected COVID-19 cases that occurred within 7 days after any vaccination were 409 in the vaccine group vs 287 in the placebo group." This data comes from Pfizer itself. See p 42 of https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download

My wife's aunt has severe MS and got the jab - she's fucked up and required a lot of extra care by her grandmother and son. I'm not sure if she went to the hospital, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Jeebus. I've never seen so much consipiracy theory. Yeah, it might cross your mind, but what does occams razor say? If anything, it will be unintended consequences, rather than any kind of malice that has any kind of side effects. FYI, I got the jab yesterday. Over 40. First jab. slightly sore shoulder.. nothing else.

There IS always a small % chance that anything you do, including this vaccine, will fuck you up. But there is also a small chance that Covid , even if you are a healthy adult under 55, will give you long term side effects. So if you do, or if you don't, you are taking a risk. The mRNA doesn't self replicate, so to me that risk is lower.. the virus does self replicate... and may also mutate. But like I said, both risks are small, so no idea why people are trying to conspiracy theory this shit and pump up the risk assesment?

If you are worried, try talking to yourself logically. Answer out loud to yourself.. I think the risk that the vaccine will fuck me up is... 1% .. 10% .. 50% ? And yes, it is an "experimental biological". 100 million people have "got the jab" so far. How many cases of death or complication are you hearing about?

I'm not telling you you should get the vaccine. I'm telling you to think for yourself. Same reason you aren't worried about "missing out on housing" and the reason you are here on patrick.net. I get that we are seeing other "conspiracies" with the country's finances. But I'm still convinced, it's not a "conspiracy" as much as selective ignorance, and a lack of empathy for people they are responsible to but don't know personally. And yes, that's dangerous, but it's not really misanthropic. The statement we joke about is literally, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Zak says

I'm not telling you you should get the vaccine. I'm telling you to think for yourself.

I am.

Please tell me why we need a vaccine for something with a 99.9+% survival rate.

If a mrna vaccine for SARS couldn't be completed because it was deemed "too dangerous" - and 100% of animals it was tested on died, why the fuck would anyone inject THIS particular shit into themselves - which hasn't even been tested on animals? https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/99d35b02-a5cb-41e6-ad80-a070f8a5ee17/SMDwhitepaper.pdf

Someone “dislikes” that I got the shot.
He doesn’t understand that it’s my decision and I’m ready to accept the consequences for it.
Either way, I am not harming anyone, it’s not like speeding or drunk driving.

Just ran into my neighbor who got the 2nd shot last week. She's in her early 70's.

Always a vibrant, fun lady to talk to. She looked like hell. Skin was discolored, appeared lethargic and something seemed off.

clambo says

Someone “dislikes” that I got the shot.
He doesn’t understand that it’s my decision and I’m ready to accept the consequences for it.
Either way, I am not harming anyone, it’s not like speeding or drunk driving.

You’re absolutely right. It is your choice and even we who think it’s a poor choice should respect your agency to decide for yourself.

I wish people understood biology, viruses and diseases better, but they don't. I am in awe that they allow themselves to be lemminged into being human experiments, with no upside except faith in official entities that have already belittled, deceived and abused them.

It's not something that I can control, but it's also something I don't enjoy watching.

Surprised?

Just got a text from a fried minutes ago. Got the 2nd poke. She's happy but nervous. Word is getting out about side effects. And for that reason, I'm out. Even sent a picture of her "vaccine" card. lol. WTF have humans become?

WookieMan says

Just got a text from a fried minutes ago. Got the 2nd poke. She's happy but nervous. Word is getting out about side effects. And for that reason, I'm out. Even sent a picture of her "vaccine" card. lol. WTF have humans become?

Yep.

There's a ton of related vax side effect content out there on forums though - which is easy to find right now. Ultimately, it's one massive ass experiment. If I were to even remotely consider getting one, it wouldn't be for another 5-10 years lol.

You can keep your fucking passport.

I found the FB group. Here's a few..



"My friend is a 50yr old male with no underlying health conditions who’s had the Astra Zeneca vaccine. He’s currently in hospital as has suffered an adverse reaction to it. This is his own words:

“They tell me that over active antibodies have killed off all of my blood platelet cells. These are essential for enabling blood to clot. Whatever was put through the tube last night was designed to flush away the rogue antibodies. If this has been successful they will then build back up my platelet count. If I start bleeding anywhere now then it won't stop”"

This is what happened to my neighbors face... I was like wtf is wrong with it... Here is the perfect example.

What's the best answer for coworkers and neighbors asking if you got or when are you going to get vaccinated!

Blue says

What's the best answer for coworkers and neighbors asking if you got or when are you going to get vaccinated!

Just show them your death certificate.