patrick.net

Haiti actually does not vaccinate against Covid at all. Maybe if you're rich and want it you can get it privately, but government does not vaccinate. So I assume less than 5% are vaccinated in Haiti and that that will not change.

farmer2021 says

https://greatgameindia.com/100-vaccine-deaths-india-hospital/

That means it's working!

mell says

Haiti actually does not vaccinate against Covid at all. Maybe if you're rich and want it you can get it privately, but government does not vaccinate. So I assume less than 5% are vaccinated in Haiti and that that will not change.

I believe it is good thing.

porkchopexpress says

farmer2021 says

https://greatgameindia.com/100-vaccine-deaths-india-hospital/

That means it's working!

Bill Gates may indeed be evil.

One claim I've heard, no hard evidence to back it up:

India was treating with Ivermectin and then stopped when the vaccine became available and focused all efforts toward that. Also that it was banned(?) when vaccine became available, and is now starting to be used again when deaths started ramping up and that within about 2 weeks you'd see that dropping off again.


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farmer2021 says

This problem is that if it is indeed deadly , You can no longer claim freedom of movement as individual right.

More deadly than a heart attack? More deadly than driving a car?

Should we cancel electricity because someone might get shocked?

Onvacation says

farmer2021 says

This problem is that if it is indeed deadly , You can no longer claim freedom of movement as individual right.

More deadly than a heart attack? More deadly than driving a car?

Should we cancel electricity because someone might get shocked?

Sure when it snows you need chains or traffic is blocked.
Also you change food habits to reduce cardiac risk.
It is all about probabilities and tradeoffs.

Being a perpetual centrist I dislike both alarmist behavior as well as total disregard.
(Propaganda from either side is not centrist and I have strong dislike)

Karloff says

India was treating with Ivermectin and then stopped when the vaccine became available and focused all efforts toward that. Also that it was banned(?) when vaccine became available, and is now starting to be used again when deaths started ramping up and that within about 2 weeks you'd see that dropping off again.

I've read this too.

It seems to fit well with Peru's experience of using Ivermectin:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/epidemiologic-analyses-on-covid19-and-ivermectin/



But Ivermectin is not profitable because it's nearly free.

I am not expert to say whether "Ivermectin" is effective or not.
But if it is effective and people are holding it for profits, They are responsible for human suffering as seen in video.
All I can is "shame on them". I wish we can know for certain and drag their asses into courts.

https://twitter.com/pandeyvij9/status/1390898578390798337

ThreeBays says

There was a report with an Indian crematorium owner who said 50 of his neighbors had died. Anecdotal, but it certainly sounds very different from what we've experienced.

I know lot of people have died.
On a positive note one of my friend lives in a high rise in tall building in India and only 2 older people died.
(It is collection of towers probably 1000s of people live there and ideal situation for lot of deaths)
Many of them had COVID and some severe symptoms but many young and old recovered(for time being).

At the same time I know 10+ younger than 50 people died.

Another sad discussion with a Indian guy with all his parent generation lives in INDIA.
So many died as he literally counted like flies perishing.

Guys keep your "distrust of authorities" as You should as they are in evil hands, But still be careful with this Indian mutation.
If this is engineered virus, we may be in uncharted territory.(CCP creation to finish off Indian competition in region).

ThreeBays says

There was a report with an Indian crematorium owner who said 50 of his neighbors had died. Anecdotal, but it certainly sounds very different from what we've experienced.

We had a flood of news stories about bodies stacked and overflowing in NYC and elsewhere, run by the mainstream US media.

I retain the right to reserve judgement on this.

farmer2021 says

Another sad discussion with a Indian guy with all his parent generation lives in INDIA.
So many died as he literally counted like flies perishing.

Guys keep your "distrust of authorities" as You should as they are in evil hands, But still be careful with this Indian mutation.
If this is engineered virus, we may be in uncharted territory.

It’s also a nation where people crap in the street.

Let’s wait and see.

@FuckTheMainstreamMedia

Take care. It is quite possible that it is due to failed Indian system to provide medical facilities.

>It’s also a nation where people crap in the street.
I think lack of hygiene should be plus as it creates heightened immune system to fight daily fights.

I think the NY mayhem was partly due to putting everyone on ventilator too early.

farmer2021 says

Sure when it snows you need chains or traffic is blocked.
Also you change food habits to reduce cardiac risk.
It is all about probabilities and tradeoffs.

I was being a bit hyperbolic, but that's what libertarian catastriphists like me do.

We're always looking for slippery slopes to warn people about.

http://www.irishsavant.net/?p=547

The amount of disinformation and misinformation on India’s “Covid crisis” is now so vast that it’s hard to know where to begin to untangle the web of deceit and lies. ‘The Guardian’ on the 3rd May 2021. The article in question was headlined “Covering India’s Covid crisis: ‘Hundreds of journalists have lost their lives’”. This is a blatant lie. The current situation unfolding in India is actually only affecting two places in particular, Delhi and Mumbai. So this is far from almost everyone in the country, a grand total of 1.4 billion people. But the main “area of concern” is currently Delhi. Step outside of these two areas and you’ll find that the rest of India is carrying on as normal.

But the propaganda doesn’t end there. Later on in the article ‘The Guardian’ ask their South Asia correspondent ‘What needs to happen now in order for the crisis to abate?’ Here’s the answer that was given – “The only thing that is going to get us out of this crisis is vamping up vaccine production and distribution.” Prior to the Covid Vaccine roll-out the Indian Government had been treating the citizens of India with Ivermectin. . India began using Ivermectin late August 2020, and as you can see from the graph [in the link below] it had great success in reducing the number of daily deaths attributed to Covid-19.

However for some strange reason they switched tack in January to the experimental Covid vaccines, but didn’t really get going with the vaccine roll-out until the end of February. Fast forward two weeks and the deaths attributed to Covid-19, which had almost flat lined suddenly started to rise at an unexplained and exponential rate compared to the rate previously seen in India.

Patrick says

http://www.irishsavant.net/?p=547

The amount of disinformation and misinformation on India’s “Covid crisis” is now so vast that it’s hard to know where to begin to untangle the web of deceit and lies. ‘The Guardian’ on the 3rd May 2021. The article in question was headlined “Covering India’s Covid crisis: ‘Hundreds of journalists have lost their lives’”. This is a blatant lie. The current situation unfolding in India is actually only affecting two places in particular, Delhi and Mumbai. So this is far from almost everyone in the country, a grand total of 1.4 billion people. But the main “area of concern” is currently Delhi. Step outside of these two areas and you’ll find that the rest of India is carrying on as normal.

But the propaganda doesn’t end there. Later on in the article ‘The Guardian’ ask their South Asia correspondent ‘What needs to happen now in order for t...

I have strong inclination that Bill and Milinda are evil people and this author is onto something regarding their evil plan.
But He is spreading falsehood that only Delhi is suffering.
Every city is in dumps. The so called silicon valley of India has a huge scam in allocation of beds .. condition same everywhere as many more patients than hospital beds.
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/bribe-for-bed-scam-bengaluru-official-social-media-disappointment-1800133-2021-05-08

These people should stop this propaganda and report truth.

In this chart you can generate data for different cities, COVID cases are exploding everywhere.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hydrabad+COVID&ei=j9OYYJGLF9L1-gSL-KOABA&oq=hydrabad+COVID&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyDQgAELEDEIMBEMkDEEMyCggAELEDEIMBEEMyCggAELEDEIMBEAoyBAgAEEMyBAgAEAoyBAgAEAoyCggAELEDEIMBEAoyBAgAEAoyBAgAEAoyBAgAEAo6BwgAEEcQsAM6BwgAELEDEAo6CgguEMcBEK8BEApQ6DhY90JgwURoAXABeACAAaMBiAH_BJIBAzQuMpgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXrIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjRjpqRv77wAhXSup4KHQv8CEAQ4dUDCA0&uact=5

https://telanganatoday.com/black-fungus-detected-in-five-covid-19-patients-in-hyderabad
‘Black Fungus’ detected in five Covid-19 patients in Hyderabad

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/anti-fungal-drugs-burn-pockets-of-covid-recovered-patients/articleshow/82509095.cms
Covid-19: Key anti-fungal drug scarcity new concern

Variants is a bigger load of Bullshit, than the Virus itself.

First off all they do is RNA tests to determine if the deceased had Corona or not, the last I checked the RNA test doesn't conclude it was indeed Corna virus 100% let alone what fucking Commie Strain.

Tenpoundbass says

Variants is a bigger load of Bullshit, than the Virus itself.

First off all they do is RNA tests to determine if the deceased had Corona or not, the last I checked the RNA test doesn't conclude it was indeed Corna virus 100% let alone what fucking Commie Strain.

I am not sure what it is.
Its a sad situation in India due to large number of people dead.
People need $2k per day of hospital stay and no insurance. The median income is $2k per year.
There are public hospital , which have no resources at all.

i think India has no resources to do full testing. The only think "private people" can do is look at symptoms and average "death rate" increase and see the impact of COVID on death rate.
Govt is in hiding and most likley they will either resign or dragged on street and chased like Gadaffi.(my preference for these criminals)
This time Bhartis should ensure no traitors come to power again.

Biden is killing the millions in India, they flourished and brushed Covid off under Trump.
The Commie Cabal with Biden demands they get with the program or get in the back of the line.
You wanna come to the Biden America with open borders, and foreign workers get fast tracked ahead of Tax paying Americans. Then you better get your fucking pillows out, roll up your sleeves and start snuffing out Elderly patients in your medical and Senior facilities. It's easy to do, furlough all of the competent straight shooting nurses and Doctors home. Hire only Satanic Humanity loathing Leftist Commies, kill anyone that steps foot in the Hospital, all of the honest staff are unemployed and not there to blow the whistle. And to combat boredom, for not having any viable patients they didn't snuff out in the middle of the night, make many Tic Toc videos with the complete hospital staff dancing. I think it's a confirmation video, so they get bonuses from CDC and WHO and the Biden Satanic Covent.

The Corona virus recovery rate for those that don't go to the hospital is 100%.

Once you go, you never come back.

@Tenpoundbass
You paint a very dark present and future.
Hope we can do better. There are 10s of millions of Americans who “care for country and citizens”.
They will save the day for us.
Enjoy your day.

I am hopeful for India too, Poor we’re living bad life anyway, Now 10% of top have tasted the hardships of poor and some change will likely come.

farmer2021 says

You paint a very dark present and future.
Hope we can do better. There are 10s of millions of Americans who “care for country and citizens”.
They will save the day for us.

Tens of millions had their votes flipped for a Communist regime hostile take over.
You're damn right we'll save the day, we're working around the clock to bring it all to light. That is why the Satanic Communist Cabal are livid trying to stop it. They thought by smearing everyone as a dissident and turning the FBI and DOJ on the American citizens would just shut us up, like other countries with a meek society with no balls. Just rolls over and lets the Commies fuck them all up the Ass.

It's not happening here, so keep the confidence that we will keep the pressure up, to expose them and send them all back to the bowels of Hell.

This is America, and if you don't know what it's about. It's not a fucking Geographic location. It's self determined people that refuse to bend and relent to tyranny and low IQ scumbags, that think they can just take what Americans have created, by getting a stamp on a piece of paper, and street address in some choice zipcode.

It's much harder work than that to be an American.

Even the India you describe a Hindu hospital would kill people not Hindu.
And the Sikhs would kill Hindus and Muslims.
Just blame it on Covid and wait for the CDC check to clear.

What if all these people dying in India is part of the Elites' depopulation agenda? I bet they're just killing off the unhealthy, elderly and poor who are a "suck on society".

Tenpoundbass says

farmer2021 says

You paint a very dark present and future.
Hope we can do better. There are 10s of millions of Americans who “care for country and citizens”.
They will save the day for us.

Tens of millions had their votes flipped for a Communist regime hostile take over.
You're damn right we'll save the day, we're working around the clock to bring it all to light. That is why the Satanic Communist Cabal are livid trying to stop it. They thought by smearing everyone as a dissident and turning the FBI and DOJ on the American citizens would just shut us up, like other countries with a meek society with no balls. Just rolls over and lets the Commies fuck them all up the Ass.

It's not happening here, so keep the confidence that we will keep the pressure up, to expose them and send them all back to the bowels of Hell.

This is America, and if you don't know what it's about. It's...

It is temporary setback. May be sometimes things happen for good.
May be COVID is wake up call to top 50% or so in US and 10% or so in India that they can't ignore the plight of rest.
US manufacturing is destroyed and workers called "trailer trash/white rednecks" etc. to ignore their economic concerns..
Once communism takes hold, It is hard to uproot... I am positive that US will overcome this challenge.

Regarding Bharat , It is till run by London globalists through proxy Hindoo cult.. But people are waking up.
Large scale voluntary movement of upright people from Hindoo cult to Sikhism is certain.
(There used to be tradition of Hindooo families to have their elder Son as Sikh, Must come back as Khalsa is defender of Bharat)

Tenpoundbass says

Even the India you describe a Hindu hospital would kill people not Hindu.
And the Sikhs would kill Hindus and Muslims.
Just blame it on Covid and wait for the CDC check to clear.

Commoners are all Bhartis and want welfare of Bharat.(Like ordinary Americans)
Hindooo cult remote controlled by globalists is danger , Buts its days are numbered and Khalsa will beat it and bring "true freedom" to Bhartis.


Sikhs perform well in hour of need:
https://in.news.yahoo.com/sikhs-delhi-serving-free-food-103219194.html
Sikhs in New Delhi serving free food to Covid-19 patients and their families

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/delhi-at-gurdwara-oxygen-langar-many-covid-patients-get-a-breath-of-life-7305005/
Delhi: At gurdwara oxygen langar, many Covid patients get a breath of life
The “oxygen langar” at the gurdwara was set up two weeks ago by Khalsa Help International and Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/14/if-you-want-anything-done-get-the-sikhs-community-wins-admirers-for-bushfire-and-covid-aid
'If you want anything done, get the Sikhs': community wins admirers for bushfire and Covid aid

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/dining/free-food-sikh-gundwara-langar.html
How to Feed Crowds in a Protest or Pandemic? The Sikhs Know
Their centuries-old faith tradition of nourishing anyone in need has found new energy and purpose in America’s turmoil.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/sikhs-step-up-welcome-oroville-dam-evacuees-in-their-temples/42164/
Sikhs Step Up, Welcome Oroville Dam Evacuees to Their Temples
"It's just hardwired into us and our religion," Harsimran Singh aid. "Anytime someone needs help, we need to be there."

https://www.thebetterindia.com/53531/golden-kitchen-10-things-didnt-know-langar-golden-temple-amritsar/
50,000 Free Hot Meals a Day and 9 Other Amazing Facts About the Langar at the Golden Temple

porkchopexpress says

What if all these people dying in India is part of the Elites' depopulation agenda? I bet they're just killing off the unhealthy, elderly and poor who are a "suck on society".

@porkchopexpress
I think it is very real possibility. Fascism and communism consider people less important than system.
Although Fascism and communism claim to be in conflict, But both are same "control freak criminal cults".
You can see that "Freedom loving" Americans have fought both Fascism(2nd world war) and Communism.. There is a reason for us to oppose both.

India is getting doubly hit.. Fascist India government controlled by communist global elite.
Common Bhartis are in very painful and cruel system.

https://twitter.com/Marco_Acortes/status/341578219176214528
Corona virus....its coming


https://www.india.com/viral/this-twitter-user-predicted-coronavirus-8-years-ago-in-2013-people-are-freaking-out-check-out-his-tweet-4653432/
This Twitter User ‘Predicted’ Coronavirus in 2013 & People Are Freaking Out | Check Out His Tweet
A tweet predicting coronavirus by a random Twitter user is going viral on the internet right now and people are extremely intrigued.

Putting India's Death Rate into Perspective

The corporate media fearmongers are claiming there are 120 COVID deaths per hour in India.

Let's put things into perspective, shall we?

120 COVID deaths/hour x 24 hours x 365 days = 1,051,200 Indian COVID deaths a year.

India has the second highest population in the world at 1,391,000,000.

1,051,200 / 1,391,000,000 100 = 0.0756% of the Indian population dead with COVID in a year.

And that's allegedly the highest death rate right now.

The USA has a population of 332,000,000 and claims to have had over 500,000 COVID deaths in a year.

Just think of how many US citizens would be DEAD with a death rate like that of India!!!

332,000,000 0.0756% = 250,992 USA COVID deaths a year.

Wait a second, that means the highest death rate in India isn't even half as bad as the average USA death rate in a year...

Booger says

Putting India's Death Rate into Perspective

The corporate media fearmongers are claiming there are 120 COVID deaths per hour in India.

Let's put things into perspective, shall we?

120 COVID deaths/hour x 24 hours x 365 days = 1,051,200 Indian COVID deaths a year.

India has the second highest population in the world at 1,391,000,000.

1,051,200 / 1,391,000,000 100 = 0.0756% of the Indian population dead with COVID in a year.

And that's allegedly the highest death rate right now.

The USA has a population of 332,000,000 and claims to have had over 500,000 COVID deaths in a year.

Just think of how many US citizens would be DEAD with a death rate like that of India!!!

332,000,000 0.0756% = 250,992 USA COVID deaths a year.

Wait a second, that means the highest death rate in India isn't even half as bad as the average USA death rate in a year...

@booger
The numbered are severely under counted.
The range of discrepancy is 5-25x as per many experts. Let us take middle number if 15x , so total COVID deaths until now are:
246K*15 = 3.7M
Now if this number is scary for 1400M population country, This can be personal viewpoint as it is still very low.

Even per govt data, 22.7-18.7-.246 = 3.7M active cases. This is very concerning for medial system.
Cases
22.7M
Recovered
18.7M
Deaths
246K

Booger says

Wait a second, that means the highest death rate in India isn't even half as bad as the average USA death rate in a year...

Math doesn't exist anymore. 1M dying in a country of 1.4B is a massive nothing burger. The land mass itself is large, but not for the population. So yeah, it's going to be more grizzly looking than the US, where much of the country is rural. If we all lived East of the Mississippi our situation could be worse. We don't.

It's pure hype. And IF the Indians dying are actually dying of covid, that sucks. But the numbers on paper are super low. The narrative is the problem. It's meant to scare you, us, or anyone.

Now we can chose to ignore threads like below.
I have relatives in Rural Punjab and thankfully nobody have COVID, So I can't tell if this guy is sensationalizing or telling truth.
But i can gurantee you this, If indeed 125 people died of COVID they won't be counted.
In last wave we had 2 deaths of people in 70s last year in rural Punjab in our close circle and nobody came to record it as covid death.

https://twitter.com/saurabh_lohani/status/1391840185596350464
According to a news report from UP, within a week 125 people died in just 2 villages bordering North Lucknow due to COVID. There is Neither test, nor medicine. People are complaining of cough, chest tightness & dying.
Village after village Corona has spread like a wild fire.

WookieMan says

Booger says

Wait a second, that means the highest death rate in India isn't even half as bad as the average USA death rate in a year...

Math doesn't exist anymore. 1M dying in a country of 1.4B is a massive nothing burger. The land mass itself is large, but not for the population. So yeah, it's going to be more grizzly looking than the US, where much of the country is rural. If we all lived East of the Mississippi our situation could be worse. We don't.

It's pure hype. And IF the Indians dying are actually dying of covid, that sucks. But the numbers on paper are super low. The narrative is the problem. It's meant to scare you, us, or anyone.

We can chose to ignore the plight of "poor Indian" folks dying and attribute it to they breeding beyond resources.
It is not humanly possible for outsider to help that vast population anyway.

But we are not as isolated as you may think from tragedy there.
The deadly cocktails of anti-virals, steroids and what not given in absence of qualified doctors will cause many hardy and dangerous mutations which can become problem for whole world.

Best Quote.
https://twitter.com/YRDeshmukh/status/1391820955215966215
So according to the much celebrated global media outlets, the Corona variants are Brazil variant, South Africa variant, UK variant, India variant and so on, but the original virus is just Covid. Not Chinese. Let that sink in.

Well played China. Well played.

farmer2021 says

125 people died in just 2 villages bordering North Lucknow due to COVID. There is Neither test, nor medicine

If there's no test how do they know it's the Wuhan?

Onvacation says

farmer2021 says

125 people died in just 2 villages bordering North Lucknow due to COVID. There is Neither test, nor medicine

If there's no test how do they know it's the Wuhan?

I will give you example , Not specific to this particular case.
There is 1 person dies every month in village , But last month 20 died and they all had some symptoms similar to COVID.

What will you assume?

How the Govt officials are trying to mark deaths as COVID unrelated.
It is opposite of what is done in US by Xiden folks.... Call every death COVID.
I hate when politics take over health care and statistics are massaged for detriment of welfare of citizens.

If this repeats in every village(I would be surprised if It won't), There are probably millions of people already died of COVID.
There are "664,369" villages in India , If we take average of 5 dead... It comes down to:
664,369*5=~3M in last month , Typically India as a whole record 27k deaths a day... This IS 810K .
So 3M Rural + Urban deaths can clearly be contrasted with expected 800K normal deaths.


https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/150-attended-burial-of-covid-positive-man-21-dead-in-rajasthan-village-2437731
150 Attended Burial Of Covid Positive Man, 21 Dead In Rajasthan Village
"Only 3-4 deaths have occurred due to COVID-19 out of 21 deaths. A majority of deaths are from older age group. We have taken sample of 147 members of families where deaths have occurred to check whether it is COVID-19 community transmission," Lakshmangarh sub-divisional officer Kulraj Meena told PTI on Saturday.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/rohtak-village-grapples-with-covid-mystery-fever-talk-as-18-die-in-10-days-7310129/
Rohtak village grapples with Covid, ‘mystery fever’ talk as 18 die in 10 days
Dismissing these figures as “exaggerated”, health officials admit the village is in the grips of the pandemic. On Monday, 15 out of 75 people who tested for the virus were found Covid positive. In the past 10 days, 159 of the 746 people tested from Titoli and neighbouring villages were found positive.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/gujarat/story/second-wave-hits-gujarats-rural-pockets-village-loses-90-people-to-covid-1798928-2021-05-05
Second wave hits Gujarat's rural pockets; village loses 90 people to Covid
Meanwhile, Varun Barnawal, Bhavnagar's District Development Officer, declined to acknowledge that 90 people had died in the previous 20 days.
“Eight emergency response teams have been dispatched. Furthermore, an increasing number of people are being screened and tracked down in order to control the Covid-19 outbreak in the village,” added Varun Barnawal.

There seems 100s of stories like this. It appears like it is easy to go to any village and find disproportionate deaths in last month.

https://thefederal.com/covid-19/2-weeks-10-villages-239-mysterious-deaths-covid-now-batters-rural-india/
2 weeks, 10 villages, 239 ‘mysterious’ deaths: COVID now batters rural India


https://theprint.in/health/1-covid-death-in-this-up-village-was-followed-by-another-25-but-official-toll-is-silent/652089/
1 Covid death in this UP village was followed by another 25. But official toll is silent
Doctors on the ground in Shahjahanpur say residents of the village are reluctant to get tested, though residents deny this. Local authorities admit to delayed test reports.


https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/haryana/25-deaths-in-hisar-village-in-2-weeks-249317
25 deaths in Hisar village in 2 weeks

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/punjab-16-deaths-put-the-fear-of-covid-in-a-tarn-taran-village-7308728/
16 deaths in 4 weeks, panic in Punjab village

https://www.freepressjournal.in/india/check-out-this-inspiring-story-of-rajasthan-village-that-fought-back-against-covid-19-and-won
This is a story of a village that witnessed 25 deaths and 87 Covid positive cases in 10 days. It fought back and now there is only one positive case left. Village sarpanch, a lady named Rasalidevi Meena and her team imposed lockdown in the village for 10 days; put check posts on the entries of the village and mass sampling was done. Now the village is almost Covid free.