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Looks like Facebook killer the covid side effects group.

More suppression.

Why do they have to build vaccines based on the spike protein - it's nonsensical unless your motive is pure greed as the antibodies will fade quickly and then you need regular and frequent boosters. I know that somehow simply supplying weakened or dead strains of actual CVs hasn't worked well in the past, perhaps for the same reason as for the flu, frequent mutations, but for the flu they try to anticipate the variants in a yearly cocktail and at least exposure to the actual virus should give you some T cell immunity with some cross immunity as well, not just AB based immunity. If anyone medically skilled has the answer as to why no weakened/dead strain cocktail is used, please post here. Any current "vaccine" is a no-go for me.

Shaman says

Novavax

Since the Novavax is suppose to be viral based, my regimen applies ...

https://patrick.net/post/1339724/2021-06-16-enter-rin-wah-how-one-man-killed-a-vacc

So for 2 days, I took a daily dose of the following (spreading it out over time):

4000 mg Flax Seed Oil (mostly used as a lipid based solvent)
4000 mg Turmeric with Bioperine
3000 mg Quercetin (This is a LOT!)
3000 mg Ascorbate (Vitamin C in salt form)
2000 mg Allisure Allicin (Active ingredient in Garlic, fully isolated)
1000 mg R-Lipoic Acid (Thioctic Acid which recycles all antioxidants including Glutathione)
1000 mg Enteric Coated Aspirin
200 mg Zinc

Patrick says

The j&j "vaccine" has just the spike protein but has proven as deadly as the mrna ones.

Well not exactly. It uses a chimp adenovirus as a vector to get the mRNA into your cells and cranking out the spike protein. It’s basically doing the same thing as the Moderna and Pfizer shots just using a different transport agent. It may actually be worse since the virus it uses is infectious and will infect many cells to hijack them to become spike protein factories.

The Novavax is supposed to have only the spike protein in weakened form. It’s not doing things the same so I figure it’s safer.

Shaman says

Patrick says

The j&j "vaccine" has just the spike protein but has proven as deadly as the mrna ones.

Well not exactly. It uses a chimp adenovirus as a vector to get the mRNA into your cells and cranking out the spike protein. It’s basically doing the same thing as the Moderna and Pfizer shots just using a different transport agent. It may actually be worse since the virus it uses is infectious and will infect many cells to hijack them to become spike protein factories.

The Novavax is supposed to have only the spike protein in weakened form. It’s not doing things the same so I figure it’s safer.

Just looked it up and that's correct. The Novavax vaccine would be the preferred choice once approved as there is no spike-protein producer active, instead harvested spike proteins are injected, so there's a known number of spike proteins entering the body. Definitely better than the MRNA and Viral DNA vector based vaccines. What remains unknown though is the length of protection and also it had less than 50% effectiveness against one of the variants. Either way it's progress.

mell says

Either way it's progress.

Progress toward what? Saving me from a non event?
Progress away from what? Killing people?

WineHorror1 says

mell says

Either way it's progress.

Progress toward what? Saving me from a non event?
Progress away from what? Killing people?

Progress in the way of a lesser evil for those who are high risk. Still not a good choice to inject spike proteins vs weakened or dead viral strains instead. The spike protein is part of the virus but theoretically a small amount of virus should suffice for the immune system to remember it and moreover to not just recognize it by the spike protein but also via its other characteristics.

Went today to my local Natural Food Co-op. At least half of the youngish, affluent, hippie/hipster customers were wearing masks. It is now clearly a virtue signal for them.

mell says

The spike protein is part of the virus

I believe this is completely false. Please provide supporting information.

Robert Sproul says

Went today to my local Natural Food Co-op. At least half of the youngish, affluent, hippie/hipster customers were wearing masks. It is now clearly a virtue signal for them.

Where are you located?

I'm up in WA checking out quiet little towns far from Seattle.

Sadly, mask mania seems to be a permanent mental infection up here.

WineHorror1 says

Where are you located?

Grass Valley/Nevada City CA. Chock full of urban expats from SF & LA, PERs retirees, and weed growers.

Nobody wearing masks in wine country, they dropped it all yesterday. Maybe 1% still wear

Patrick says

I'm up in WA checking out quiet little towns far from Seattle.

Sadly, mask mania seems to be a permanent mental infection up here.

Check out La Conner. Quaint little touristy town.

porkchopexpress says

Sadly, mask mania seems to be a permanent mental infection up here.

When I was up in Soap Lake area, no masks. Closer you get to larger population centers and chains, then you start seeing them. Some mini marts had them, some didn't.

I was floating down the Boise River at noon and saw a lady walking her dog on a trail with a mask on in the heat with nobody else around. Some people are just sheep and that's all they will ever be.

Over 50% of physicians aren't fully vaccinated.

https://aapsonline.org/majority-of-physicians-decline-covid-shots-according-to-survey/

RC2006 says

I was floating down the Boise River at noon and saw a lady waking her dog on a trail with a mask on in the heat with nobody else around.

Was the dog masked too?

porkchopexpress says

Over 50% of physicians aren't fully vaccinated.

https://aapsonline.org/majority-of-physicians-decline-covid-shots-according-to-survey/

Not to mention the ones who are 'fake saline' vaxxed. Remember, they have all the paper work that they can fake to their heart's content.

Shaman says

If I were to get vaccinated against Covid this would be my choice.

Me too!

When are the animal and fully informed volunteer human study reports due to come out?

Shaman says

Sort of. I mean, have you heard that “dose makes the poison?” A shot of some spike proteins is likely far less quantity and injected in a far more local way than getting your whole body to produce the spike protein by injecting billions of viruses or mRNA particles to produce mass quantities of the spike. The smaller portion with the Novavax should be far less than it takes to cause disease and it won’t cause your body to produce any more of it.
They’re already saying that Novavax is safer for people with medical issues.

SO, You can inject the experimental biologic agent that instructs your body to produce poison or you can inject the poison directly in order to induce your body to produce antibodies.

pass

Onvacation says

SO, You can inject the experimental biologic agent that instructs your body to produce poison or you can inject the poison directly in order to induce your body to produce antibodies.

pass

I take it you don’t drink either. Dose makes the poison.

joshuatrio says

mell says

The spike protein is part of the virus

I believe this is completely false. Please provide supporting information.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41401-020-0485-4

"
A large number of glycosylated S proteins cover the surface of SARS-CoV-2 and bind to the host cell receptor angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), mediating viral cell entry [8].

"

Shaman says

I take it you don’t drink either. Dose makes the poison.

I hear you.

But at this point, given the bullshit that has been going on since the 1st failed impeachment, I would rather hazard a the chance of getting a full blast of the CCP virus in the wild than trust one of these experimental agents, at least until the human trials are done in a couple of years.

This trial and its preliminary report have several limitations. With approximately 19,000 participants per group in the subset of participants with a median follow-up time of 2 months after the second dose, the study has more than 83% probability of detecting at least one adverse event, if the true incidence is 0.01%, but it is not large enough to detect less common adverse events reliably. This report includes 2 months of follow-up after the second dose of vaccine for half the trial participants and up to 14 weeks’ maximum follow-up for a smaller subset. Therefore, both the occurrence of adverse events more than 2 to 3.5 months after the second dose and more comprehensive information on the duration of protection remain to be determined.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

Still waiting for the final report.

How can the emergency use authorization for these experimental biologic agents remain in effect when the deaths are approaching zero and we have very good treatments? Even worse how can they push it on children?

Shaman says

I take it you don’t drink either. Dose makes the poison.

While drinking has detrimental effects in excess, a slight buzz from time to time isn't harmful based on data. Most of it reputable over the past 100+ years. This "vaccine" has actually killed people. Booze can too in a binge situation, but that's a personal choice to get that fucked up. We're being told to get vaccinated at the potential risk of death versus getting infected with CV and 99.9% chance of living. It defies common sense logic.

https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-judges-offer-some-reduced-sentences-offenders-who-get-vaccinated-1593713

Georgia Judges to Offer Some Reduced Sentences for Offenders Who Get Vaccinated

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/royal-caribbean-vaccines-mandated-cruises-except-setting-sail-florida

Royal Caribbean says vaccines will be mandated on all cruises, except ones setting sail from Florida.



Go to RCI's cruise website and look up cruises leaving from Florida ports -- only ones from Florida ports. Go through the motions of getting pretty close to the checkout.

Their algorithms will detect the surge of interest in Florida-only sailings. And from there, industry gossip takes care of the rest. This kind of "clicktivism" is actually sort of useful in a world where so many policy decisions are based on consumer behavior and responses.

Booger says

Go to RCI's cruise website and look up cruises leaving from Florida ports -- only ones from Florida ports. Go through the motions of getting pretty close to the checkout.

Link? Please

Sounds like fun.

My wife and I have started to go out to restaurants again (we didn't stop going because we were scared of covid. We stopped going because we weren't going to play the mask game). Now, if I see any staff with masks on, I ask to see the manager. Then I let him/her know we will not be eating at his/her restaurant because they are abusing their staff. Then we walk out.

Oh shit. The blood clotting while flying is turning out to be true.

joshuatrio says

Oh shit. The blood clotting while flying is turning out to be true.

How can this be fact ✔?

I suggest not going to any event where the staff are required to mask or if they are required to get vaccinated. This includes NFL games.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31654371/nflpa-joke

WineHorror1 says

joshuatrio says

Oh shit. The blood clotting while flying is turning out to be true.

How can this be fact ✔?

There's this: https://mobile.twitter.com/British_Airways/status/1405606519631007748

If airlines start to ground pilots who have taken the jab, that would be quite the game changer.

IF YOUR VACCINATED AND I AM NOT, WHY ARE YOU FREAKING OUT. DOES YOUR VACCINATION NOT WORK?