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My guess is shitty and or cheap construction. Just like that leaning building in San Francisco.

Booger says

My guess is shitty and or cheap construction. Just like that leaning building in San Francisco.

Millennium Tower. Yeah, I watched that thing go up. Nutz how they cheaped out so close to the bedrock. In SF in particular.

Soon I'm going to have to quit making fun of Chinese construction.

NoYes says

Of course I own it.....would I fib? Prices are 'falling' fast!

Were you that guy off to the side in the video saying "PULL IT"?

Tenpoundbass says

Or in about 6 to 12 months we'll starting hearing about the respiratory diseases that inhaling that smoke caused.

Or in about 6 to 12 months we'll starting hearing about the respiratory diseases that were caused by the delta variant in Surfside

komputodo says

NoYes says

Of course I own it.....would I fib? Prices are 'falling' fast!

Were you that guy off to the side in the video saying "PULL IT"?

Ok..blame me..I will join the long list of blamies. But I did have a out of country cash buyer who said a check is in the mail for me....no inspections or questions asked. He trusts me.

Typical Realtards. 😤

https://6abc.com/before-fl-building-collapse-$9-million-in-repairs-needed/10837118/

Before Miami-area building collapse, $9 million in repairs needed

SURFSIDE, Florida -- Nearly three years before an oceanfront building collapsed near Miami, an engineering firm estimated that major repairs the building needed would cost more than $9 million, according to newly released emails.

The email from the firm of Morabito Consultants was among a series of documents released by the city of Surfside as rescue efforts continued at the site of the collapsed building, where more than 150 people remained unaccounted for. At least five people were killed in the collapse.

The release of the 2018 cost estimate followed the earlier publication of another document from the firm showing the ground-floor pool deck of the building was resting on a concrete slab that had "major structural damage" and needed to be extensively repaired. That report also uncovered "abundant cracking and spalling" of concrete columns, beams and walls in the parking garage.

The report did not warn of imminent danger from the damage, and it is unclear if any of the damage observed was responsible for the collapse of Champlain Towers South.

The cost estimate showed that repairs across the entire building would cost more than $9.1 million, with the cost of work at the garage, entrance and pool deck alone accounting for more than $3.8 million. The work had not been done by the time the building collapsed.

The earlier report said the waterproofing under the pool deck had failed and had been improperly laid flat instead of sloped, preventing water from draining off.

"The failed waterproofing is causing major structural damage to the concrete structural slab below these areas. Failure to replace the waterproofing in the near future will cause the extent of the concrete deterioration to expand exponentially," the report said.

The firm recommended that the damaged slabs be replaced in what would be a major repair.

Some of the damage to the concrete in the parking garage was minor, while other columns had exposed and deteriorating rebar. It also noted that many of the building's previous attempts to fix the columns and other damage with epoxy were marred by poor workmanship and were failing.

Booger says

while other columns had exposed and deteriorating rebar.

I'm not inclined to believe that enough rebar was used in this building.

Note the "because of their identity" argument above.

The flaw in their reasoning is that they are considering the vice of sodomy to be an identity. It's not. It's an acquired vice, usually acquired as a boy by being molested by an adult gay man, who was himself similarly molested.

Gays should be treated exactly as heroin addicts are. They both have a life-shortening dangerous addiction, usually incurable. We should not be promoting heroin to children either.

Once men or boys turn gay, it's usually permanent and I would not recommending hating them or discriminating against them. It like having an alcoholic relative. You don't hate them for it.

Tenpoundbass says

It was built on reclaimed wetland and was sinking a few mm every year. Over 40 years, that's enough to sheer and erode the steel support at the Elevator shaft.
The elevator shaft pancaked first, leaving 1/3 of the portion shade in orange, near the station logo and time. That stood free for about 5 seconds, then pancaked as well. There's a video from a security camera.

I suspect a sink hole under the garage, and compounded by the rain and runoff in the elevator shaft, as well as the sinking building.

Nah, termites.

We all know it was the children of the 9/11 terrorists.

Anyone else find it deeply suspicious that Israel was given early access to the mRNA vaccines and adopted an almost universal vaccination as fast as possible? I’m sure that they assume it’s because they are special that they got the “precious” vaccines first of all the world outside the country which manufactured them, but I wonder if there was another motive.
If the vaccines do make women sterile(or much less fertile at least), as I suspect, it’s an end run to eliminate the Jews over a longer period of time. In the USA, most Jews are Leftards, and would have been first in line for the vaccines. And the other place Jews still live (Europe) was handed hundreds of millions of vaccine doses fairly early on.

I am deeply suspicious of these vaccines. And if my suspicions are founded in hidden truth, then the motive for vaccinating Israel so thoroughly is truly sinister.

In the video you see that middle section drop three floors then the top pancaked in on itself.

The first floor fell into the parking garage, then the bottom two floors collapse on top of that, then the top started falling in from the top down.

There was minimal rebar, and no steal I beams used anywhere in the construction, that I can see protruding through the wreckage.

The Israelis came down hard on the side of the forced vaccines and Covid tyranny. That confuses me, too, as antithetical to the supposed mission statement to protect the Jewish people. Victims of the effects of the forced vaccinations have been going to the world courts for redress.

Wadda mess.

Patrick says

I doubt it. The highest percentage gays in the US is San Francisco, and that's 7%.

Jews and ... Irish women (?!) have the highest percentage of Lesbians... there is indeed some kind of Genetic Marker. There was another group, but I can't remember the site or the other ethnicity, but I think it was Eurasian.

This sounds experientalish: Many of the lesbians I've known are mostly Jewish or Celtic ancestry.

Ceffer says

The Israelis came down hard on the side of the forced vaccines and Covid tyranny. That confuses me, too, as antithetical to the supposed mission statement to protect the Jewish people. Victims of the effects of the forced vaccinations have been going to the world courts for redress.

Half of the new COVID cases in Israel are in the "Fully Vaccinated". It is, however, evidence against the "Da Joos!" since the Israelis would then be among the least vaccinated rather than among the highest rate

I remember long ago that there were human sexuality studies on Irish to differentiate between nature and nurture with homosexuality. I think they decided on some nominal genetic component. In the past, with Irish men being drunken layabouts and thugs because of lack of opportunity, a good bit of Irish society became matriarchal. I gather matriarchal societies have higher percentages of both male homosexuality and lesbianism. One wonders if the women start wearing the pants, if they don't wind up feeding different hormones and stress chemicals to their embryos as some kind of adaptation.

Anyone remotely connected any possible way to the cause of this disaster are Lawyering Up, and will be VERY tight lipped for a long long time, and we will all be left to guess. We will just hearing newest latest 'climate change' excuse was the cause. Nobody can sue 'climate change'. Case closed.

Tenpoundbass says

There was minimal rebar, and no steal I beams used anywhere in the construction, that I can see protruding through the wreckage.

It's precast concrete slabs held together with cables, I think. This guy explains it better than I can:
https://youtu.be/WJoTw4orM58

Really every building that high or higher should be built like the Empire State Building.

One wonders if matriarchal societies express a gene that some groups have in greater abundance than others

That might explain both the Irish and Jews, as well as everybody within the USA now.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Half of the new COVID cases in Israel are in the "Fully Vaccinated". It is, however, evidence against the "Da Joos!" since the Israelis would then be among the least vaccinated rather than among the highest rate

The people that run Israel and are the power structure in Israel don't give a FUCK about Jewish people. It's a myth they do. Jewish people are their human shields. "Oh the Holocaust happened! Israel can't do anything wrong! We're victims! Always! No matter what fucked up thing we do! We're Jewish people!" - they'll kill a couple million in order to escape oversight and criticism and they probably did, frankly.

richwicks says

The people that run Israel and are the power structure in Israel don't give a FUCK about Jewish people. It's a myth they do. Jewish people are their human shields. "Oh the Holocaust happened! Israel can't do anything wrong! We're victims! Always! No matter what fucked up thing we do! We're Jewish people!" - they'll kill a couple million in order to escape oversight and criticism and they probably did, frankly.

The Germans are always victims, the Irish are always victims, the Baltic People are always victims, etc. Every ethnicity (that isn't cucked or previously wasn't cucked by PoMo) thinks it's the permavictim. Muh Cromwell and Muh Famine, Muh Versailles and Muh No Leibensraum, Muh Red-Brown-Polish Commonwealth/Swedish/Russian occupation... Muh Shoah... Muh Farhud...

Yeah, not buying it. Arab Muslims have 90% of the Levant, handed to them by Colonialist powers that took it from another Colonialist Power, but bitch and moan about the 10% they don't control because their Armies, equipped and trained by the British, were defeated in 1947 and beyond trying to make it 100%. And no two-nations one state: Lebanon, India-Pakistan-Sikhs, Sudan, and many other interfaces between Muslims and non-Muslims (Sri Lanka, Nigeria, Burma, Thai-Malaysian border area, etc.)

The recent multiyear almost perfectly divided Elections in Israel pretty much blow the idea out of the water, as does Hagannah vs. Irgun.

In any case, Israel has the nuclear triad so...

Very good indeed

BTW, this is a riot:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6294294-Ethnicstudies-Intro-Overviewesmc.html

This is the first draft. Within a few paragraphs, I found this word:

hxrstory

I asked myself :" self, wtf is that?!?" . Then I realized.. oooooo, its the latinx thing X-ing out "his" from history! (and changing it to herstory simultaneously) HA!

I read a comment somewhere, was it here, on pat.net, that said..."ignorance is the most dangerous human trait". Sounds about right to me. How else can people be bamboozled by all the whacked out shit going on?

WineHorror1 says

How else can people be bamboozled by all the whacked out shit going on?

People are largely conformist cowards. They're pussies.

Here, we just had a blatantly obviously stolen election. Who talks about it openly? Hear anybody at work discussing it?

4chan's been saying it for years, finally the racists got something right!

richwicks says

WineHorror1 says

How else can people be bamboozled by all the whacked out shit going on?

People are largely conformist cowards. They're pussies.

Here, we just had a blatantly obviously stolen election. Who talks about it openly? Hear anybody at work discussing it?

"Politically incorrect" is a free speech suppression method for sure.

richwicks says

Here, we just had a blatantly obviously stolen election. Who talks about it openly? Hear anybody at work discussing it?

There is no "at work" for many people. Half are WFH and the other half is enjoying the long summer on Uncle Sam's dime.

I'm sure the Realtor's will be taking offers.

I believe that it was a combination of factors, but it’s a casual observation herewith.

The building was made of concrete slabs and columns to be heavy and resist hurricanes.
It was built on weak ground and low enough for seawater to invade it.

I remember a lighthouse in Baja California Sur made entirely of concrete and rebar, which was crumbling because the rebar rusting expanded, the salt air/fog slowly ruined it.

There was evidently seawater in the Miami building often.

The building was like a house of cards but the cards were concrete with rusty rebar inside.

It’s also likely that the engineering inspection was either poor, or corrupted by bribes.

A few years ago a new pedestrian bridge collapsed and killed people in Miami for example.

I've heard it was partially over a sinkhole, and that a year before an estimate was produced that it would cost $9 million to repair the structure.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

The recent multiyear almost perfectly divided Elections in Israel pretty much blow the idea out of the water, as does Hagannah vs. Irgun.

You don't understand quite what I'm saying.

I'm saying that Jews were purposely targeted in WWII to produce this outcome, that there's Israel.

If Hitler just said "Jewish people, you WILL leave this nation or die" - there wouldn't have been much of a problem. They did have the Madagascar plan after all. People use Israel as a SHIELD, it's essentially a client state of the US, or the US is a client state of Israel - it doesn't matter who controls who. They are controlled by the same people above nominally elected politicians.

Israel has a new PM - NOTHING will change.

richwicks says

If Hitler just said "Jewish people, you WILL leave this nation or die" - there wouldn't have been much of a problem.

Yep, That's fine with me. I'm a fan of ethnic cleansing of minorities - not including genocide - by an ethno-nation state. Pushing Poles from Ukraine, Germans from Sudentenland, etc. after WW2 was a huge inoculation against revanchist wars. As people are bored of hearing, the 3 major areas of internal European violence since WW2 were the Basques, Ulster, and Yugoslavia - three regions where the victorious powers did NOT forcibly physically separate populations.

The Madagascar plan was infeasible due to Geopolitical conditions, and since the Nazis were planning on exterminating most of the Slavs and enslaving the rest, they said "Ah hell, we'll do a test run on the smaller number of Jews". The Lebensraum, confirmed in Generalplan Ost and discussed in Mein Kampf and in countless Nazi Speeches, was the Nazi's primary goal of WW2. It's forgotten because of the concentration to the exclusion of everything except Holocaust (and the various Battles). Tragically forgotten is the millions of Poles, Russians, Ukrainians executed or worked to death by the Nazis. Whole Czech villages wiped out by the SS.

Today, Germany has all of Continental Europe for an neo-colonialist empire. Germany went into big debt in the 90s as they had to both combine with East Germany, while buying up to shut down all the lower cost plants in Eastern Europe that could be lower end product competitors before they joined the EU. Germany writes EU laws to favor expensive, complex German goods at the expense of imports or lower cost, less feature items from the South and East. Hungary passed a land ownership bill a few years back because a ever larger chunks of Hungarian farms were going into German hands. Merkle on behalf of Deutschebank ground the Greeks into multigen debt because German lenders lent foolishly.

German lending laws are brutal: Basically, the lender is never wrong. Germans who find themselves in debt, even if no fault of their own, must account for every Euro. That's why many commit suicide; they can't even buy a coffee without a judge demanding that they not buy anything over bare existence until the Debt is Paid.

People forget about the Fuggers, Hanseatic League... Medicis. That's because those orgs served the Universal Monarchy/One Europe Ideal.

Liberty, the Nation State, and Democracy go hand in hand. Centralization and Globalism always end up in tyranny and destruction, even if they make things "Better" over a generation or 3.

richwicks says

it would cost $9 million to repair the structure.

It was going to cost 2 billion to retrofit the asbestos laden WTC.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Germany writes EU laws to favor expensive, complex German goods at the expense of imports or lower cost, less feature items from the South and East.

This fits with my observation as a student in Germany that low quality was not an option. Only expensive high-quality German goods were offered for sale. This was a big problem on a limited student budget.

America, fortunately for the poor, has a lot of cheap shit from China available in stores.

Unfortunately for former manufacturing workers who are now poor, that cheap shit from China cost them their jobs.

Patrick says

This fits with my observation as a student in Germany that low quality was not an option. Only expensive high-quality German goods were offered for sale. This was a big problem on a limited student budget.

One of the things that fueled a bit of Brexit was that Brits noticed, not just vacationers but many who had lived in Germany for years, that there was almost no British stuff - not Yorkshire Tea or Marmite or Cadbury's - anywhere in Germany. But British stores all the way down to Tesco's were packed with German food items. My friend who lived in Berlin in the 2000s, told me stores that carried 'foreign goods', the Germans almost never carried British icons Vegemite/Marmite or Yorkshire Tea, something most Brits miss and want the most abroad, they only had a German Version of it.

This was also true in South America - except for Soda (bottled locally anyway), Mars/Hersheys, and Wine, anything foreign - both Pacific and Atlantic coast - would be wholly or mostly German imported items. Not just pretzels, but things like Coffee Brands, Chocolates, Jams, etc. There were more US imports in the Korean Stores anywhere else. It used to piss me off that either the US doesn't push it's own goods.

It's not just high end products, but bulky food items.