patrick.net

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-us-government-lied-for-two-decades?token=patrick.net

The U.S. Government Lied For Two Decades About Afghanistan
Using the same deceitful tactics they pioneered in Vietnam, U.S. political and military officials repeatedly misled the country about the prospects for success in Afghanistan.

Glenn Greenwald

“The Taliban regime is coming to an end,” announced President George W. Bush at the National Museum of Women in the Arts on December 12, 2001 — almost twenty years ago today. Five months later, Bush vowed: “In the United States of America, the terrorists have chosen a foe unlike they have faced before. . . . We will stay until the mission is done.” Four years after that, in August of 2006, Bush announced: “Al Qaeda and the Taliban lost a coveted base in Afghanistan and they know they will never reclaim it when democracy succeeds. . . . The days of the Taliban are over. The future of Afghanistan belongs to the people of Afghanistan.”

For two decades, the message Americans heard from their political and military leaders about the country’s longest war was the same. America is winning. The Taliban is on the verge of permanent obliteration. The U.S. is fortifying the Afghan security forces, which are close to being able to stand on their own and defend the government and the country.

https://notthebee.com/article/the-taliban-just-took-over-bagram-air-force-base-and-released-thousand-of-prisoners

https://notthebee.com/article/these-videos-from-kabul-are-freaking-insane

https://t.me/praying_medic/4167

There’s no doubt that Afghanistan is home to over 2 trillion in mineral wealth that includes the largest deposits in the world of rare earth elements (REE!) and Lithium, both of which are critical to modern electronics and battery technology. We have need of those materials, and should have found a way to extract, produce, or negotiate a treaty with the Afghans for trade rights.

But given a choice between the USA and China, it’s us they wish to humiliate and China who will get their business. The ONLY way we could have had a different result was to reasonably and fairly negotiate with the Taliban whom the majority of Afghans clearly prefer. If we could have come to an understanding with that entity, we could have secured 1)a safe exit, 2)amicable relations 3)mutually beneficial trade.
Biden botched all of that in a manner so spectacularly bad that one wonders if he (or his handlers) planned the disaster ahead of time. We know he has deep personal and familial ties to China, and this result he engineered is great for China and terrible for the USA. If there ever were a Manchurian Candidate, Joementia has to be the front runner.

RC2006 says

Maybe this Fuck up was to throw Biden under bus to be replaced with cackling Harris.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that happened in the next week. The Chinese may have called in their last marker on their favorite Manchurian Candidate, and burned him to get 2 trillion in mineral wealth deals from the Taliban.

RC2006 says

Maybe this Fuck up was to throw Biden under bus to be replaced with cackling Harris.

Harris is hiding too.

Tenpoundbass says

Of course we all know, Afghanistan was allowed to fall like this. So they can project the imagery onto the January 6th, stop the steal rally defendants being wrongfully railroaded into trumped up terror charges.

Is this insurrection comparable to the Jan. DC insurrection?

Is there a blm flag among those?

komputodo says

Is there a blm flag among those?

WTF is with that ceiling? Why is it sloped like that?

komputodo says

Tenpoundbass says

Of course we all know, Afghanistan was allowed to fall like this. So they can project the imagery onto the January 6th, stop the steal rally defendants being wrongfully railroaded into trumped up terror charges.

Is this insurrection comparable to the Jan. DC insurrection?

Looks mostly peaceful. Not a single deadly lectern in sight.

Where are their masks?

They're all going to die from Fauci Flu now, right?

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/08/seal-who-killed-bin-laden-slams-biden-calls-for-gen-milley-to-resign-over-afghanistan-collapse/

Former Navy SEAL Rob O’Neill — who killed Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden in 2011 — blasted President Joe Biden and his administration on Monday for its handling of the rapidly deteriorating situation in Afghanistan and called for the resignation of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley.

“There are Afghans falling to their deaths off of our retreating aircraft,” O’Neill said in the first of a series of tweets. “Has @thejointstaff resigned yet?”

There are Afghans falling to their deaths off of our retreating aircraft. Has @thejointstaff resigned yet?

— Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) August 16, 2021
“Has this dude quit yet? @thejointstaff” he said in a separate post, tagging Milley’s office.

Has this dude quit yet? @thejointstaff

— Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) August 16, 2021
“This is the worst loss in American history. Our most popular president has vanished,” O’Neill wrote. “Prove me wrong.”

This is the worst loss in American history. Our most popular president has vanished. Prove me wrong.

— Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) August 16, 2021
“The Taliban aren’t wearing masks! Go get em Fauci! Seriously. Go to Afghanistan. Now,” another tweet stated.

The Taliban aren’t wearing masks! Go get em Fauci! Seriously. Go to Afghanistan. Now.

— Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) August 16, 2021
“We’ve heard more from The Taliban than we have from the most popular president in our history,” O’Neill said. “Anything @PressSec?” he added, referring to White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki.

We’ve heard more from The Taliban than we have from the most popular president in our history. Anything @PressSec ?

— Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) August 16, 2021
“Have any of our generals and admirals resigned out of disgrace yet?” O’Neill continued in a separate tweet.

Have any of our generals and admirals resigned out of disgrace yet?

— Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) August 16, 2021
“My friends who died for no reason would be disgusted with this administration,” he continued.

My friends who died for no reason would be disgusted with this administration.

— Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) August 16, 2021
“Do I have this all right?: Our border is wide open, China’s biological weapon is surging, we closed our pipelines but opened Russia’s, the Taliban is back in charge, we are defunding the police and people with penises are women,” O’Neill said. “What did I miss?”

Do I have this all right?: Our border is wide open, China’s biological weapon is surging, we closed our pipelines but opened Russia’s, the Taliban is back in charge, we are defunding the police and people with penises are women. What did I miss?

— Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) August 16, 2021
O’Neil’s criticism of the administration comes as Biden remains on vacation at Camp David despite the chaotic situation in the Middle East. As of Monday morning, Biden has yet to address the nation.

The White House did comment on the situation with a post on Twitter, apparently showing Biden in a meeting with senior administration officials.

“This morning, the President and Vice President met with their national security team and senior officials to hear updates on the draw down of our civilian personnel in Afghanistan, evacuations of SIV applicants and other Afghan allies, and the ongoing security situation in Kabul,” the tweet stated, accompanied by a photo of Biden on a conference call.

This morning, the President and Vice President met with their national security team and senior officials to hear updates on the draw down of our civilian personnel in Afghanistan, evacuations of SIV applicants and other Afghan allies, and the ongoing security situation in Kabul. pic.twitter.com/U7IpK3Hyj8

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) August 15, 2021
On Sunday, Fox News reported that White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki will also be unavailable this week, according to an automated reply the network received after emailing Psaki a list of questions.

“I will be out of the office from August 15th-August 22nd,” the auto-reply email to Fox News stated. The email included a list of press officers to reach with questions in her absence.

We need more men with balls like O'Neill.

komputodo says

Is this insurrection comparable to the Jan. DC insurrection?

Shame on you! We're all literally Titler.

Booger says

#stupidcunts

Zak says

Does this just fucking crack anyone else up? I mean, its beyond funny. These people for 20 years bitched an moaned about how the US wasn't getting out of their way to let them run their country, and now that we are out, "oh, poor us! why isn't the US still here!?!?" AAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I don't care if biden is screwing it up or not. Get us the fuck out of there. If anything, lob a few moab s into the taliban advance, with a little hand wave on the way out!.

The only ones bitching are the ones who see their military contracts drying up, and the end of MIC kickbacks to their campaigns!

To make it even better, find all the far left commies, Muslims and their sympathizers get them into their Islamic paradise Afghanistan, Pakistan and/or their friendly countries. At that point, people are happy on both sides for long time.

Send drones on to anyone ever venture digging for any minerals for the next 20 years unless make a deal with US to share profits to recover what was stolen from the tax payers.

Michael Jaco, who shares on Bitchute, stated that in terms of capability, there is no way that the Taliban overwhelmed American forces in AFG and seized control, unless the American forces were told to stand down and the Taliban were specifically invited. He was in AFG in intelligence and special forces, so he should know. It also explains the somewhat puzzled faces of the AFG Taliban leaders standing in the Presidential office, like, "How the fuck did this happen so easily?"

I have been wondering between the idea that Trump set Biden up with the military, or that China told their bought and paid for puppet to stand down so the Taliban could take over. Biden seems entirely shocked that this all happened, fool that he is. It doesn't seem that the Chinese would have flushed asset Biden in quite that way.

If Trump set this up to humiliate Biden, he is a cold and calculating warrior in his own right, willing to sacrifice bodies on the ground for the longer game. He pulled a reverse false flag on the motherfuckers. There is also the speculation that AFG debacle is purposely intended to make America look weak, to lure China into a disastrous failed military gesture to take Taiwan, because Biden promised Taiwan to the CCP as part of his bribes packages. The US and British militaries want to decisively destroy the Chinese assets stacked against Taiwan.

@ceffer

Occam's razo says Biden is retarded.

https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1426710333264179214

@BryanDeanWright
Aug 15
This may become the most infamous — and devastating — press conference ever held by an American President.

Patrick says

https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1426710333264179214

@BryanDeanWright
Aug 15
This may become the most infamous — and devastating — press conference ever held by an American President.

Really? All I've heard George W. Bush, Obama, Biden, every other establishment thug and every "reliable" news source is them just lie to me bold faced for 2 decades. They're all buffoons. I can dig up some BS press conferences from the Bush era if you like.



Face it, these assholes could be raping a baby on television and it would blow over in a week.

It's always this fake hopium bullshit while everything is burning around them. Always. Like the US "won" in Iraq. The Neocons are either brutally incompetent, or they purposely don't give a shit if the United States seriously collapses because of what they are doing.

https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1427421688141123584

@bennyjohnson
15h
This Afghanistan vet just blew up MSNBC’s entire Biden-simping Afghanistan narrative LIVE ON AIR.

What a glorious takedown. Watch this.

RC2006 says

@ceffer

Occam's razo says Biden is retarded.

Occam's Razor is always a good starting point, but it's reductio ad absurdum in today's fuckaciousness.

It would tell me the MSM are well meaning, ethical people dispensing what they thought was the best version of the truth. It would say Fauci is a kindly old doctor only interested in the welfare of the population. It would say the near lockstep shutdown of human rights across the previously free Western world is a mere coincidence. It would say that we had free and fair elections, and that any 'mistakes' or misfires were non-determinitive, anyway. It would tell me that Washington DC couldn't possibly harbor anything but sincere, hard working civil servants.

Occam's Razor is not very good at explaining the machinations of evil because it's blind to evolved competitive thought processes in populations, psychopathy, counter evolved intra species predation etc.

Ceffer says

Occam's Razor is not very good at explaining the machinations of evil because it's blind to evolved competitive thought processes in populations, psychopathy, counter evolved intra species predation etc.

You have hit a pet peeve of mine.

Occam's Razor is often misunderstood and said to mean "the simplest explanation is usually the correct one". That's not what it really says. It says "the explanation with the least number of assumptions is likely to be the correct explanation" - and it stands to reason that an explanation with NO assumptions MUST be correct.

https://www.rt.com/usa/532197-us-saved-dogs-over-afghan/

Booger says

https://www.rt.com/usa/532197-us-saved-dogs-over-afghan/

Look, not that I understand the situation over there, but if China marched into this nation, and decided to "fix" this country by putting us in 20 years of war and at the end of the it, China withdrew, how would I view people who worked with the Chinese during that time? You know how I think the Chinese invaders would think of them?

Collaborators, traitors.

What was the goddamned mission of Afghanistan? I don't think the collaborators know. The Taleban is NOT the sort of government or system I'd want to live under (frankly, not too happy with the system I live under but if government employees follow the laws - it would be pretty decent), but since when has the US gone anywhere (Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia) and made it BETTER?

Yeah, save the dogs. It least they have loyalty.

Booger says

https://www.rt.com/usa/532197-us-saved-dogs-over-afghan/

Good. We gave them shitload of weaponry. Go and fight your fucking enemies. Wage a guerilla war if necessary. Taliban did. As Mujahiddin did before them.

richwicks says

Occam's Razor is often misunderstood and said to mean "the simplest explanation is usually the correct one". That's not what it really says. It says "the explanation with the least number of assumptions is likely to be the correct explanation" - and it stands to reason that an explanation with NO assumptions MUST be correct.

I think that Occam's Razor came back in vogue to offset the foolishness of 'expertise' i.e. pundits justifying their own existence by creating convoluted scenarios that did not reflect any meaningful probability or reasonable outcome. There is an unfortunate tendency for 'experts' to show off to the point of obfuscating bullshit that they are 'necessary' by positing strings of fake syllogistic reasoning, each segment of which is a demonstration of their genius rather than a reflection of reality. Translation: self preening bullshit artists will complicate things to an unnecessary extent.

However, there is also the tracing of motive and opportunity, which OcRa isn't that good at. I don't think the quantum computers are operating on the premise of OcRa, more on chaos theory and variable, changing, multifactorial circumstances.

Ceffer says

However, there is also the tracing of motive and opportunity, which OcRa isn't that good at. I don't think the quantum computers are operating on the premise of OcRa, more on chaos theory and variable, changing, multifactorial circumstances.

AFAIK, and that's not far at all my extremely limited understanding of quantum computers is forcing an electron to follow a path to a solution, which one one solution will solve the problem while one or several electrons are superimposed upon one another before the wave function collapses.

QM is just too fucking weird and the only way to understand it, is just mathematically.

I'm doubtful quantum computers are going anywhere really. They've been hyped forever, but they have to be at like -270C or something, and they are like 4 qubits. I don't have access to any of them, but I've never heard of anything groundbreaking down with them and I think it's a bit like Gallium Arsenide - "it's the future and always will be!" but frankly, it's so far outside of my knowledge I don't know. I have been hearing about quantum computers for over 20 years now, and there doesn't seem to have been any applications during that time. If there has been, it's all classified and secret.