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2021 May 9, 10:24pm   81,942 views  629 comments

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https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/05/09/update-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19/

Back in January I wrote an article about four randomized controlled trials of ivermectin as a treatment for covid-19 that had at that time released their results to the public. Each of those four trials had promising results, but each was also too small individually to show any meaningful impact on the hard outcomes we really care about, like death. When I meta-analyzed them together however, the results suddenly appeared very impressive. Here’s what that meta-analysis looked like:



It showed a massive 78% reduction in mortality in patients treated with covid-19. Mortality is the hardest of hard end points, which means it’s the hardest for researchers to manipulate and therefore the least open to bias. Either someone’s dead, or they’re alive. End of story.

You would have thought that this strong overall signal of benefit in the midst of a pandemic would have mobilized the powers that be to arrange multiple large randomized trials to confirm these results as quickly as possible, and that the major medical journals would be falling over each other to be the first to publish these studies.

That hasn’t happened.

Rather the opposite, in fact. South Africa has even gone so far as to ban doctors from using ivermectin on covid-19 patients. And as far as I can tell, most of the discussion about ivermectin in mainstream media (and in the medical press) has centred not around its relative merits, but more around how its proponents are clearly deluded tin foil hat wearing crazies who are using social media to manipulate the masses.

In spite of this, trial results have continued to appear. That means we should now be able to conclude with even greater certainty whether or not ivermectin is effective against covid-19. Since there are so many of these trials popping up now, I’ve decided to limit the discussion here only to the ones I’ve been able to find that had at least 150 participants, and that compared ivermectin to placebo (although I’ll add even the smaller trials I’ve found in to the updated meta-analysis at the end).

As before, it appears that rich western countries have very little interest in studying ivermectin as a treatment for covid. The three new trials that had at least 150 participants and compared ivermectin with placebo were conducted in Colombia, Iran, and Argentina. We’ll go through each in turn. ...

What we see is a 62% reduction in the relative risk of dying among covid patients treated with ivermectin. That would mean that ivermectin prevents roughly three out of five covid deaths. The reduction is statistically significant (p-value 0,004). In other words, the weight of evidence supporting ivermectin continues to pile up. It is now far stronger than the evidence that led to widespred use of remdesivir earlier in the pandemic, and the effect is much larger and more important (remdesivir was only ever shown to marginally decrease length of hospital stay, it was never shown to have any effect on risk of dying).

I understand why pharmaceutical companies don’t like ivermectin. It’s a cheap generic drug. Even Merck, the company that invented ivermectin, is doing it’s best to destroy the drug’s reputation at the moment. This can only be explained by the fact that Merck is currently developing two expensive new covid drugs, and doesn’t want an off-patent drug, which it can no longer make any profit from, competing with them.

The only reason I can think to understand why the broader medical establishment, however, is still so anti-ivermectin is that these studies have all been done outside the rich west. Apparently doctors and scientists outside North America and Western Europe can’t be trusted, unless they’re saying things that are in line with our pre-conceived notions.


And HCQ falls into that same bucket. Even worse - to admit HCQ works would be to admit Trump was right about something.

Liberals would rather that millions die than that Trump be allowed to be right about anything. They hate Trump more than they love their fellow humans.

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86   Rin   2021 Sep 1, 1:22pm  

richwicks says
Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg


Hate to say it but if you're a regular person and not a super sized steroid monster who can bench press 500 lbs and squat 700 lbs, being at 350 lbs (and greater) is not healthy.
87   DhammaStep   2021 Sep 1, 1:26pm  

Rin says
richwicks says
Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg


Hate to say it but if you're a regular person and not a super sized steroid monster who can bench press 500 lbs and squat 700 lbs, being at 350 lbs (and greater) is not healthy.


Probably the exact kind of person who would take any kind of treatment and still die from any basic virus. The media gets to say "horse paste didn't save this extremely healthy person."
88   richwicks   2021 Sep 1, 1:40pm  

Rin says
richwicks says
Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg


Hate to say it but if you're a regular person and not a super sized steroid monster who can bench press 500 lbs and squat 700 lbs, being at 350 lbs (and greater) is not healthy.


Well, I'm not that heavy, but I wanted to give a complete chart. Being 90lbs isn't all that healthy either, unless you're a 7 year old kid.
89   Patrick   2021 Sep 1, 2:01pm  

FuckCCP89 says
From that Indian site selling Ivermectin:


All drugs have a long list of horrors that they are obligated to advertise.

But if you look up the actual safety of Ivermectin, it's up there with aspirin, I belive.
90   richwicks   2021 Sep 1, 2:09pm  

Patrick says
FuckCCP89 says
From that Indian site selling Ivermectin:


All drugs have a long list of horrors that they are obligated to advertise.

But if you look up the actual safety of Ivermectin, it's up there with aspirin, I belive.


If you want to waste some time, look up anything on the Material Safety Data Sheet. It's almost worthless because everything will kill you, in high enough quantities.

Here's distilled water:

https://beta-static.fishersci.com/content/dam/fishersci/en_US/documents/programs/education/regulatory-documents/sds/chemicals/chemicals-w/S25868.pdf

Go to the second page and review what you are to do if you're exposed to it, and how to prevent it from contaminating the environment.
91   Shaman   2021 Sep 1, 2:10pm  

For measuring purposes, one gram of paste is approximately equal to one mL. It’s easier to measure by volume with a medicine cup from something else than to measure by weight.
92   ForcedTQ   2021 Sep 1, 2:16pm  

Patrick says
FuckCCP89 says
From that Indian site selling Ivermectin:


All drugs have a long list of horrors that they are obligated to advertise.

But if you look up the actual safety of Ivermectin, it's up there with aspirin, I belive.


The thing about the listed side effects/complications is that those are what gets the drug manufacturer off the hook. If you take the med, and have one of the listed issues, any suit you may have is moot.
93   HeadSet   2021 Sep 1, 3:04pm  

richwicks says
Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg

Why did you stop at 350lbs? Asking for a friend...........
94   richwicks   2021 Sep 1, 3:10pm  

HeadSet says
richwicks says
Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg

Why did you stop at 350lbs? Asking for a friend...........


I didn't think it was likely anybody would be heavier.

Here's the math:

mg of paste to consume = 6080 mg * weight in lbs / 1250 lbs

From that, if you want to know how much Ivermectin that is:

dosage of ivermectin in mg = 0.0187 mg of paste to consume

This is not medical advice.
95   HeadSet   2021 Sep 1, 3:55pm  

richwicks says
I didn't think it was likely anybody would be heavier.

It was a joke. "Asking for a friend" is like a meme.
96   richwicks   2021 Sep 1, 4:05pm  

HeadSet says
richwicks says
I didn't think it was likely anybody would be heavier.

It was a joke. "Asking for a friend" is like a meme.


Yeah, I expected - but I'm humorous when I'm having fun doing stupid technical crap.
97   GNL   2021 Sep 1, 4:37pm  

richwicks says
HeadSet says
richwicks says
I didn't think it was likely anybody would be heavier.

It was a joke. "Asking for a friend" is like a meme.


Yeah, I expected - but I'm humorous when I'm having fun doing stupid technical crap.

It's better to weigh it or...?
98   Eric Holder   2021 Sep 1, 4:38pm  

HeadSet says
richwicks says
Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg

Why did you stop at 350lbs? Asking for a friend...........


Because horse dosage is right there on the package.
99   HeadSet   2021 Sep 1, 4:55pm  

Eric Holder says
Because horse dosage is right there on the package.

So you are saying I can multiply the dosage when needed?
100   Patrick   2021 Sep 1, 4:58pm  

ForcedTQ says
The thing about the listed side effects/complications is that those are what gets the drug manufacturer off the hook. If you take the med, and have one of the listed issues, any suit you may have is moot.



Maybe that's why they don't tell the people about to submit to the jab about the very common anaphylaxis, blood clots, ADE, Bell's Palsey, cardiomyopathy, neurodegeneration etc etc.

Because Pfizer/Moderna/J&J/Astra Zeneca have no liability for those horrors.
101   RWSGFY   2021 Sep 1, 5:02pm  

HeadSet says
Eric Holder says
Because horse dosage is right there on the package.

So you are saying I can multiply the dosage when needed?


This is what they do for treatment of elephants and whales, yes.
102   Patrick   2021 Sep 1, 5:03pm  

Anyway, given how very rare it is for anyone under 60 of normal weight to die from this, I don't think any of us are going to actually need Ivermectin at all.

The principle scam in the whole Fauci Flu Fraud is that there is literally a 1000x difference in risk by age, but it's falsely presented as risky to everyone.

They are lying in order to get everyone to submit, to justify the funneling of money to Pfizer and the extreme government control over all our lives, forever.
103   EBGuy   2021 Sep 1, 5:21pm  

Everyone is so butt hurt that Joe Rogan took Ivermectin (among other things) to treat his COVID.

104   AmericanKulak   2021 Sep 1, 5:23pm  

Patrick says


All drugs have a long list of horrors that they are obligated to advertise.

But if you look up the actual safety of Ivermectin, it's up there with aspirin, I belive.


If anybody wants to be entertained, use "Custom Range" to research Ivermetcin side effects.

It's hilarious to read the articles/warnings about it prior to 2020, with the ones made in 2020 and 2021.

Ivermetcin goes from minimal side effects except for people with liver disease, to THE MOST DANGEROUS SIDE EFFECTS IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD!!!
105   HeadSet   2021 Sep 1, 6:55pm  

Patrick says
Because Pfizer/Moderna/J&J/Astra Zeneca have no liability for those horrors.

If precedence law is followed, the day the Pfizer jab was approved, Pfizer acquired liability for the jab. It would take some tortured and twisted legal logic for a judge to rule otherwise.
106   richwicks   2021 Sep 1, 8:18pm  

HeadSet says
Patrick says
Because Pfizer/Moderna/J&J/Astra Zeneca have no liability for those horrors.

If precedence law is followed, the day the Pfizer jab was approved, Pfizer acquired liability for the jab. It would take some tortured and twisted legal logic for a judge to rule otherwise.


The Pfizer jab has not been approved.

A new drug, vaccine, gene therapy, or whatever FROM Pfizer has been approved, it's called Comirnaty. Some people (including a PR release on the FDA's website) are claiming that Comirnaty and the Pfizer jab are the same drug, or vaccine, or whatever you want to call it, but until it shows up as the product "Comirnaty" it's not.

And by the way, you can't sue a manufacturer for ANY side effect from a vaccine. That goes into arbitration, and the GOVERNMENT pays out. Good luck suing the government.
107   PeopleUnited   2021 Sep 1, 8:29pm  

HeadSet says
Patrick says
Because Pfizer/Moderna/J&J/Astra Zeneca have no liability for those horrors.

If precedence law is followed, the day the Pfizer jab was approved, Pfizer acquired liability for the jab. It would take some tortured and twisted legal logic for a judge to rule otherwise.


Here is the law regarding vaccine manufacturers.

“The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act

Congress stepped in with the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (the Vaccine Act) as a way to ensure that the injured would receive compensation, but also to protect drugmakers from open-ended liability.

In 2011, an important United States Supreme Court ruling clarified the type of lawsuits vaccine manufacturers are protected from under the Vaccine Act. In a 6-2 decision, the Court ruled that the federal law protects drugmakers from design-defect claims as long as the vaccine was properly manufactured and carried adequate warnings labels.“

https://www.findlaw.com/healthcare/patient-rights/can-i-sue-vaccine-manufacturers-.html

The EUA jabs are not even eligible for protection under the above law to my knowledge so: people who take the jabs are doing so completely at their own risk. If Comirnaty is ever manufactured it will fall under the 1986 law that exempts manufactures from direct liability for injuries cause by their product.
108   Patrick   2021 Sep 1, 8:51pm  

https://nationalfile.com/breaking-joe-rogan-got-covid-treated-it-with-vitamins-ivermectin-and-other-drugs-recovered-in-three-days/


Popular podcast host Joe Rogan revealed in a video posted to Instagram on Wednesday that he had contracted COVID, and treated the virus in a period spanning 3 days with a regimen of vitamins and “all kinds of meds, monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, Z-Pak, prednisone, everything.” Rogan’s revelation that he had used drugs sometimes touted by vaccine skeptics to beat COVID incited rage and despair amongst the corporate press.
109   GNL   2021 Sep 1, 9:43pm  

PeopleUnited says
If Comirnaty is ever manufactured

Any idea as to how long it will take to get comirnaty to market?
110   Patrick   2021 Sep 1, 10:18pm  

It will happen as soon as Pfizer can profit from killing people with it without any legal liability.
111   richwicks   2021 Sep 1, 10:21pm  

WineHorror1 says
richwicks says
HeadSet says
richwicks says
I didn't think it was likely anybody would be heavier.

It was a joke. "Asking for a friend" is like a meme.


Yeah, I expected - but I'm humorous when I'm having fun doing stupid technical crap.

It's better to weigh it or...?


I guess would be to weigh it.

It's 6.08 grams, I don't know what the VOLUME is. I was listening to Dr. Malone today, and he said he was on a dosage level that was twice the level I calculated for me.
112   GNL   2021 Sep 1, 10:30pm  

Patrick says
It will happen as soon as Pfizer can profit from killing people with it without any legal liability.

But vaccine manufacturers are protected no matter what, no? Even if/when the FDA approves a vaccine, the manufacturers are protected.
113   Patrick   2021 Sep 1, 11:31pm  

For the unethical presstitutes who call Ivermectin a "horse medication":


Alexandros Marinos
@alexandrosM
5h
I took some dog pain killer the other day. The human version. It's pretty much the same. But theirs is savory and chewable.




114   AmericanKulak   2021 Sep 2, 4:57am  

richwicks says
It's 6.08 grams, I don't know what the VOLUME is. I was listening to Dr. Malone today, and he said he was on a dosage level that was twice the level I calculated for me.


I heard it's 0.2 for preventative, and 0.4 when you're actually infected with "Parasites".
115   richwicks   2021 Sep 2, 7:18am  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
richwicks says
It's 6.08 grams, I don't know what the VOLUME is. I was listening to Dr. Malone today, and he said he was on a dosage level that was twice the level I calculated for me.


I heard it's 0.2 for preventative, and 0.4 when you're actually infected with "Parasites".


Mmmm, I don't know.

Be careful with this shit though. I've HEARD, but have not confirmed, that a major overdose is permanent neurological damage. Got a pet? Next time you're at the vet ask them about it. They'll suspect what you're considering, but who cares? They'll more likely to be honest than a doctor. An MD is more likely to say "don't take a horse dewormer".

Remember Ivermectin is a drug to kill parasites. It's essentially a poison - the bugs are just more sensitive to it than you are.

If you consider taking it, check your math with somebody else - ask here for example. I made a mistake in math on this.

@MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou You did as well You don't mean 0.2 and 0.4, you mean 0.02 and 0.04 - I'm pretty certain. Unless you're pretty big, you're not going to eat more than 1/5 of the horse paste I don't think and that's a strong dose for a 240 lb person. I would recommend against this unless you're desperate, and very confident you got your math right. Calculate it well before time before you even consider it.
116   GNL   2021 Sep 2, 7:41am  

I don't get it. A human can't take the same pound for pound dose as a horse?
117   zzyzzx   2021 Sep 2, 8:03am  

WineHorror1 says
I don't get it. A human can't take the same pound for pound dose as a horse?


You can, and I think most people do. I suspect that you are better off calculating what an appropriate does is for a human though.
119   zzyzzx   2021 Sep 2, 8:16am  

Patrick says
I don't think any of us are going to actually need Ivermectin at all.


I agree, but it might mean the difference between taking off work and not.
120   Booger   2021 Sep 2, 1:41pm  

I identify as a horse and will take ivermectin instead.
121   AmericanKulak   2021 Sep 2, 5:42pm  

My horse loved it.
122   porkchopXpress   2021 Sep 2, 5:45pm  

Rin says
Here's the thing, if you already supplement w/ Allisure Allicin (100+mg per day) & Quercetin Phytosome (250 mg per day), [ along with Vitamin C/D, Zinc, R-Lipoic Acid/N-Acetyl-Cysteine ], you can crank up that daily amount to 2000 mg of Allisure Allicin and 3000 mg of Quercetin Phytosome and you'll see many of those symptoms disappear rapidly.
I wish Thorne made NAC. Tough to find.

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