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DonewithDebate says

Christians are forced to call themselves Hindooo in a fear to lose monetary benefits only reserved for Hindoo using religious discrimination.
India being extremely poor( 80% live under $2 a day and without toilets) , Money is hard to come by.
Poor people should be allowed to get benefit from both Vatican money and compensation for Hindoo discrimination.

The premise is once you convert you will not be discriminated anymore. So you get fresh start and dont have to live of dole from govt. If Vatican wants to feed them to keep their flock hindus do not mind. But if tax money is given to them then why do present hindus give money to them.

The lower castes can get money from upper caste ancestors. The present generation did not oppress them why should their tax money be used to feed the lower castes. All the upper castes started from "zero" after independence because Indian govt took control of big land holders.

indc says

DonewithDebate says

Christians are forced to call themselves Hindooo in a fear to lose monetary benefits only reserved for Hindoo using religious discrimination.
India being extremely poor( 80% live under $2 a day and without toilets) , Money is hard to come by.
Poor people should be allowed to get benefit from both Vatican money and compensation for Hindoo discrimination.

The premise is once you convert you will not be discriminated anymore. So you get fresh start and dont have to live of dole from govt. If Vatican wants to feed them to keep their flock hindus do not mind. But if tax money is given to them then why do present hindus give money to them.

The lower castes can get money from upper caste ancestors. The present generation did not oppress them why should their tax money be used to feed the lower castes. All the upper castes started from "zero" after independence because In...

Hindooo run Bharat. They are responsible for human rights of minorities.
I won't accept any "Hindooo fault" in Pakistan as they don't run the country.

I do agree.. Pakistan Wahhabi are worse than Hindoo cult for criminality and violating human rights of minorities.
You can blame Muslims all you want for malaise in Pakistan... and I will agree.

indc says

DonewithDebate says

Christians are forced to call themselves Hindooo in a fear to lose monetary benefits only reserved for Hindoo using religious discrimination.
India being extremely poor( 80% live under $2 a day and without toilets) , Money is hard to come by.
Poor people should be allowed to get benefit from both Vatican money and compensation for Hindoo discrimination.

The premise is once you convert you will not be discriminated anymore. So you get fresh start and dont have to live of dole from govt. If Vatican wants to feed them to keep their flock hindus do not mind. But if tax money is given to them then why do present hindus give money to them.

The lower castes can get money from upper caste ancestors. The present generation did not oppress them why should their tax money be used to feed the lower castes. All the upper castes started from "zero" after independence because In...

Vatican money is too little.
The rules are already in place to provide them benefits based on their discrimination in past, Switching to Christians shouldn't stop benefits.
Do you accept that "present hindooo still discriminates" ? ... once in Christianity discrimination stops?.. If yes then why present hindoo generation is not responsible for caste discrimination?

Dholliday126 says

DonewithDebate says

The rules are already in place to provide them benefits based on their discrimination in past, Switching to Christians shouldn't stop benefits.
Do you accept that "present hindooo still discriminates" ? ... once in Christianity discrimination stops?.. If yes then why present hindoo generation is not responsible for caste discrimination?

Yes there are rules once you convert, you will loose the benefits.
No there is no discrimination right now. In fact there is reverse discrimination. But dont take my word check the Pew research.

Here is the link if you want to check:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/06/29/key-findings-about-religion-in-india/

Members of lower caste groups historically have faced discrimination and unequal economic opportunities, but the survey finds that most people – including most members of lower castes – say there is not a lot of caste discrimination in India.

indc says

DonewithDebate says

The rules are already in place to provide them benefits based on their discrimination in past, Switching to Christians shouldn't stop benefits.
Do you accept that "present hindooo still discriminates" ? ... once in Christianity discrimination stops?.. If yes then why present hindoo generation is not responsible for caste discrimination?

Yes there are rules once you convert, you will loose the benefits.
No there is no discrimination right now. In fact there is reverse discrimination. But dont take my word check the Pew research.

Here is the link if you want to check:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/06/29/key-findings-about-religion-in-india/

Members of lower caste groups historically have faced discrimination and ...

I will take your word for all you said.
If the "benefits" are based on past crimes, Why do they arbitrarily stop if person changes religion?
Person should be allowed to take both "Reparations" and new Vatican benefits.... as even after this, He/She still would have very poor existence.

DonewithDebate says

If the "benefits" are based on past crimes, Why do they arbitrarily stop if person changes religion?
Person should be allowed to take both "Reparations" and new Vatican benefits.... as even after this, He/She still would have very poor existence.

Brother asked a good question.

According to Indian constitution, minority religionists i.e. muslims, christians and sikhs cannot get "reparation" benefits since these religions have in-built equality according to their scriptures.

They did not think that people converting would still need those benefits.

And second point. These reparations were supposed to end 1-2 generation after independence. i.e they should have stop them by 1990's. But once people get free dole it is difficult to wean them away from it.

For the reverse discrimination i stated above:

https://www.opindia.com/2021/07/qatar-based-indian-phd-scholar-says-false-sc-st-case-filed-against-her-by-nagarjuna-university-professor-who-used-to-harass-her-online/

indc says

Brother asked a good question.

According to Indian constitution, minority religionists i.e. muslims, christians and sikhs cannot get "reparation" benefits since these religions have in-built equality according to their scriptures.

They did not think that people converting would still need those benefits.

And second point. These reparations were supposed to end 1-2 generation after independence. i.e they should have stop them by 1990's. But once people get free dole it is difficult to wean them away from it.

Sikhs should have equality as tried hard by Sikh gurus to end Caste system.
But It didn't end as I have seen my landlord ancestors doing discrimination with my own eyes.
I have no idea about Muslims.

If the "reparations" ends for all and Christian converters are on level field with Hindoo, Then we can say no discrimination by state.
Whether they should end after certain time is different issues not debated here.

Great strategy. All the Sikhs want to leave Hindooo land. This is great perk.
Does Canada have enough Visas for 20M+ Sikhs?

https://twitter.com/harishrajguru19/status/1437418964779368451
#PunjabConversionMafia
Offering Canada visa to punjabis seems to be the top most priority by the conversion mafia in Punjab Face with tears of joy

#PunjabConversionMafia

I agree.

Absolutely!

Bush deliberately started a war against Iraq under false pretenses after Saudis attacked America.

He should absolutely be tried for war crimes.

West either keep to themselves or drop help if they can afford..
Once they do this they will have no moral responsibility to take refugees.. Who agrees?

Yup. Guilty as charged.

However, it would be nice if justice and democracy would begin at home and it's been missing in action for a while, too.

Absolutely, but they are under the wing of globalists so media left and right will never go after them.

agree

The new elite’s phoney crusade to save the world – without changing anything
Today’s titans of tech and finance want to solve the world’s problems, as long as the solutions never, ever threaten their own wealth and power.

Selective justice only for unseemly competitors. Captured corrupt justice system means it is only deployed to impoverish and imprison challengers.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1440599938937675778
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

Please make this picture viral wherever you can.
They continue to destroy livelihood of poor people by lock downs.

Kill the small businesses for their toady big businesses.

Just wait until the digital vax passports go into global worldwide swing. Even if your immune software is up to date, there's nothing to stop them from flagging you as "anti-vax scum" if you piss them off in any way. Who would even believe you? After the terrible Event of 2021, almost all dirty anti-vaxxers were put into camps and summarily exterminated. Justice be served!

DhammaStep says

Just wait until the digital vax passports go into global worldwide swing. Even if your immune software is up to date, there's nothing to stop them from flagging you as "anti-vax scum" if you piss them off in any way. Who would even believe you? After the terrible Event of 2021, almost all dirty anti-vaxxers were put into camps and summarily exterminated. Justice be served!

I am hopeful that this will fail.
Every action has reaction.. As we say in Punjabi .. people will eventually return principal with interest.
I think they seem desperate and may be seeing some nooses in dreams.... based on high voltage oppression.

Should he be given to dad/guardian of little girls he abused?
https://nypost.com/2021/09/22/bill-gates-squirms-when-asked-about-jeffrey-epstein-ties/

There is a limit to shamelessness of people like Bill Gates.
He went to Pedophile Epstien to improve "global health"... What do they think about public?... stupid?


https://nypost.com/2021/09/22/bill-gates-squirms-when-asked-about-jeffrey-epstein-ties/

DonewithDebate says

people will eventually return principal with interest.

Now that is a catchy phrase. Not always applicable though - Nicolae Ceaușescu certainly paid some interest, but Stalin, Mao and Castro did not.

If the same crimes were committed by any other than Hindooo cult, They would have been hanged by now.
Hindooo land is pathetic for everyone(80% no toilets) , But outright dangerous for minorities.

The context was a massacre of Hindus by Muslims the previous day:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhra_train_burning

Patrick says

The context was a massacre of Hindus by Muslims the previous day:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhra_train_burning

Yes these two cults of Islam are good at killing innocents.
Wahabbi Pakistan and Hindooo land have worst outcome for their citizens. To hide incompetence they engage in minority massacres.

Hindooo cult started this round by destroying wahabi's mosque.
The Godhra Train Burning was an incident that occurred on the morning of 27 February 2002, in which 59 Hindu pilgrims and karsevaks returning from Ayodhya, were killed in a fire inside the Sabarmati Express train near the Godhra railway station in the Indian state of Gujarat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demolition_of_the_Babri_Masjid

It has almost become fashion for women to call themselves "feminists".. What does it really means?
Ability and freedom to do soft porn?.. or fight for equal rights?

Strange part is that all the digital platforms love "feminism" as it generates lot of revenue for them.... Is that feminism to make more money for platforms?

DonewithDebate says

It has almost become fashion for women to call themselves "feminists".. What does it really means?

I'm all for feminism as equal opportunity for women (except perhaps for the military, in which I think combat roles especially should be limited to men).

But I think much of feminism is a demand for equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity.

They see mostly men in high status positions, but they don't see that most men are not in those high status positions either.

And it's not like someone just plunked those high-status men down in their jobs. They were usually quite aggressive at getting them, more aggressive than I think most women want to be.

Patrick says

DonewithDebate says

It has almost become fashion for women to call themselves "feminists".. What does it really means?

I'm all for feminism as equal opportunity for women (except perhaps for the military, in which I think combat roles especially should be limited to men).

But I think much of feminism is a demand for equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity.

They see mostly men in high status positions, but they don't see that most men are not in those high status positions either.

And it's not like someone just plunked those high-status men down in their jobs. They were usually quite aggressive at getting them, more aggressive than I think most women want to be.

Many women are much well off compared to poor men.
If the equality of outcome is desired especially financial , It mostly need a class struggle ...not gender struggle.

If "outcome" theoretically need to be equal.. Just declare country communist.

See that's what I'm talking about. I was born in this country over 50 years ago. When I went to school they taught us History through an unfiltered lens. We didn't have Liberals trying to acid wash it for us.

Please look up the Suffrage movement for a full synopsis of how Feminism got started.
Around the same time it was coinciding with the end of the Holy Alliance, and many European revolts and civil wars.
The Suffragette movement was the same forces, that eventually led to the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. They were trying to do the same here.
Everything from the Suffragette movement to Swine Flu, was about bringing down the world powers, in Europe and the Americas.

Agitating Lefties, trying to create turmoil and mayhem throughout the world. The Left have always been the dangerous destructive forces throughout the ages. While they convince people that the problem with the sane conservative gentry people.

Lefties wanting to give women the right to vote, was all about destroying our Country. They knew Women at the time were not sophisticated on world political affairs, save for the exception. And if you go back and look at pre suffragette women who were savvy about world affairs and politics, had no problem being voicing their opinions and having possitions of power. The (certain political religious faction) wanted to create chaos and bring down America by convincing women who never gave voting a thought, they needed to vote.

Suffrage, political franchise, or simply franchise is the right to vote in public, political elections (although the term is sometimes used for any right to vote).[1][2][3] In some languages, and occasionally in English, the right to vote is called active suffrage, as distinct from passive suffrage, which is the right to stand for election.[4] The combination of active and passive suffrage is sometimes called full suffrage.[5]

If you go back and look at the Politicians and political machines that sprung up in America as a result of that movement. That's when we got the worst Presidents, that were the most widely unpopular, and corrupt pollical machines that made deals in the open with impunity.

Check out Tammany Hall to see some the handy work that movement created.

The Tammany Society emerged as the center for Democratic-Republican Party politics in the city in the early 19th century. After 1854, the Society expanded its political control even further by earning the loyalty of the city's rapidly expanding immigrant community, which functioned as its base of political capital. The business community appreciated its readiness, at moderate cost, to cut through regulatory and legislative mazes to facilitate rapid economic growth.

Does all of this sound familiar?

It may seem like the End times, but we've been here before.

https://twitter.com/RaviSinghKA/status/1441031704681009154
Fake charges Indian extradition of UK Sikhs dangling money failed in first 10 minutes of court appearance.
Hindoo land is totally disgusting and is also spoiling the system of other countries using their Hindooo agents in foreign governments.

Tenpoundbass says

See that's what I'm talking about. I was born in this country over 50 years ago. When I went to school they taught us History through an unfiltered lens. We didn't have Liberals trying to acid wash it for us.

Please look up the Suffrage movement for a full synopsis of how Feminism got started.
Around the same time it was coinciding with the end of the Holy Alliance, and many European revolts and civil wars.
The Suffragette movement was the same forces, that eventually led to the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. They were trying to do the same here.
Everything from the Suffragette movement to Swine Flu, was about bringing down the world powers, in Europe and the Americas.

Agitating Lefties, trying to create turmoil and mayhem throughout the world. The Left have always been the dangerous destructive forces throughout the ages. While they convince people that the problem with the sane conservative gentry people.

Lefties wanting to give women the right to...

I don't dispute what you said.
But "businesses" also contributed by making agitation profitable for them.

for your assam police thread.

That's mighty tolerant of you. Remember the Hindus aren't causing the problems you describe here, other than being part of a larger group(Indians in general) taking our job, while companies tell people with decades of experience, they are over qualified, while telling the Government they can't find qualified people.

DonewithDebate says

But "businesses" also contributed by making agitation profitable for them.

I was describing the attacking of our pollical system.
As far as mind fucking the population through intimidation outside the ballot box. Randolph Hearst was doing CNN, WaPo, and MSNBC way back when he was buying up every news paper in America. And Rockefeller was doing using Antifa and BLM to facilitate the destruction of political backbone and will, by using the Pinkerton Detective agency to go bust heads, when a town majority was taking part in wrong group think. Anytime that they were protesting or demanding better wages and living standards. .

Now three states(florida, texas and NJ) in US are celebrating October as Hindu appreciation month.

Tenpoundbass says

That's mighty tolerant of you. Remember the Hindus aren't causing the problems you describe here, other than being part of a larger group(Indians in general) taking our job, while companies tell people with decades of experience, they are over qualified, while telling the Government they can't find qualified people.

I have no problem with regular Bharti or any other citizen doing his/her job.
My problem is two Islamic cults(in power) Hindooo and Wahhabi who wants to take away freedom from common man for their cultist orgasms.
If tomorrow Christians start following Hitler and curtailing freedom, I will have problems with christian cults too.
(I still see Christians fighting for individual freedom in spite of having lot of power)

indc says

Now three states(florida, texas and NJ) in US are celebrating October as Hindu appreciation month.

Good for them. Use it to talk about human rights violations in Hindooo land and fix those.
Also do something about CCP incursions while your Hindooo cult busy dividing Bhartis.

indc says

for your assam police thread.

I am not sure what you are trying to say. The police guys were firing indiscriminately and beating up a single guy and letting a photographer beat the person to death.
It doesn't matter what happened elsewhere.

In any civilized country the police guys will be charged along with Hindooo hate monger photographer.
You can't even treat enemy combatant in a war like that as per Geneva conventions.