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mell
2021 Nov 9, 6:40pm
NuttBoxer says
Agreed but I had something like that but far worse many years ago during the swine flu epidemic but could never fully pin down the causating agent. Took me 5 full years to fully recover from its long tail. If this is indeed covid, that is. Viruses effect people very differently and can def have psychological effects, even if natural. But yes let's see the complete genome, I thought it had been analyzed by a few scientists already and posed by the chinese(which of course doesn't say much)
mell saysAlso it started with a night of insomnia for no reason even before any illness symptons started the next day. Yes, prolonged sleep is hard to get with it, but I don't find that much different from the flu or bad colds.
Fair point. But there is something here that seems almost psychological. Kind of a lack of interest/enthusiasm/caring about anything at all well sick. I was eating mostly to keep up my energy, not because I wanted to. And cooking smells made me feel physically sick more than once. I've heard people say it's a hope-stealing, spiritual malady. I wouldn't go that far, but there's something off about it for sure.
Again, I think someone needs to get a hold of a more complete sequence to see what they're hiding.
Agreed but I had something like that but far worse many years ago during the swine flu epidemic but could never fully pin down the causating agent. Took me 5 full years to fully recover from its long tail. If this is indeed covid, that is. Viruses effect people very differently and can def have psychological effects, even if natural. But yes let's see the complete genome, I thought it had been analyzed by a few scientists already and posed by the chinese(which of course doesn't say much)
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mell
2021 Nov 10, 8:23am
NuttBoxer says
Was going to say I never take any continuous medication and always try to toughen it out first but not taking any Tylenol or ibuprofen with a cold/flu is pretty hard-core, kudos. I def do take those briefly on tough colds/flus so I can at least get a few things done
Mostly based on the weird combination of symptoms. Started with a headache and fever, and ended with an ear/nose/throat infection. Nasty combination, never had anything like that before. Thought about pulling out the hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin, but kind of wanting to save those for when they're really needed, so just our normal regiment of supplements, plus the extra stuff we take when we're sick. Wife got it when I was at the tail end. So far our daughters seem fine. Fever lasted for five days, normally I never have one longer than three. No loss of smell. From what I read, that's due to depletion of zinc in the body, which is impossible for us due to the supplements.
Nasty sickness for sure. Saps your appetite, and hard to get good sleep. I can see how people in poor health could easily be pushed over the edge. Was thinking about the two times governments have refused to turn over the DNA sequence(Ireland and Canada), and now I'm thinking it's not because the...
Was going to say I never take any continuous medication and always try to toughen it out first but not taking any Tylenol or ibuprofen with a cold/flu is pretty hard-core, kudos. I def do take those briefly on tough colds/flus so I can at least get a few things done
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Nov 10, 8:49am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Nov 10, 8:49am
mell says
The Chinese sequence is the only one I've heard that was released, and that was supposed to be a very small fragment of the entire sequence.
I thought it had been analyzed by a few scientists already and posed by the chinese(which of course doesn't say much)
The Chinese sequence is the only one I've heard that was released, and that was supposed to be a very small fragment of the entire sequence.
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mell
2021 Nov 10, 10:58am
Aaand it's positive, it's like a pregnancy test! Where do I get my natural immunity card now? Sure won't get jabbed now, with any vaccine
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Patrick
2021 Nov 10, 11:06am
Patrick
2021 Nov 10, 11:06am
Interesting @mell
Let us know what symptoms you have and how it goes.
Let us know what symptoms you have and how it goes.
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Onvacation
2021 Nov 10, 11:14am
Onvacation
2021 Nov 10, 11:14am
mell says
Do you want to hang out? We could have a Covid party.
Aaand it's positive, it's like a pregnancy test! Where do I get my natural immunity card now? Sure won't get jabbed now, with any vaccine
Do you want to hang out? We could have a Covid party.
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mell
2021 Nov 10, 11:29am
Patrick says
Would any of you advise getting a PCR test from a testing station as a verification of recovery? It's valid for 6 months in Germany in lieu of vaccination for example, but the drawback is the invasive nature of the questions and if you give your real address all those neurotic people will get a warning on their cell phone that somebody close by has the coof? Pros and cons.
Interesting @mell
Let us know what symptoms you have and how it goes.
Would any of you advise getting a PCR test from a testing station as a verification of recovery? It's valid for 6 months in Germany in lieu of vaccination for example, but the drawback is the invasive nature of the questions and if you give your real address all those neurotic people will get a warning on their cell phone that somebody close by has the coof? Pros and cons.
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mell
2021 Nov 10, 11:31am
Onvacation says
Well I rode the 101 bus which is pretty nice but has zero ventilation for some reason. You may be able to get it from there as well ;)
mell saysAaand it's positive, it's like a pregnancy test! Where do I get my natural immunity card now? Sure won't get jabbed now, with any vaccine
Do you want to hang out? We could have a Covid party.
Well I rode the 101 bus which is pretty nice but has zero ventilation for some reason. You may be able to get it from there as well ;)
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mell
2021 Nov 10, 11:35am
Patrick says
Massive headache, body aches, chills and sweats, fever, dry cough which can turn productive, mild chest congestion, slightly runny nose, no appetite, mild nausea and indigestion. Feels pretty much like a flu. But I'm on day 4 now and think I should be done with it completely by end of the week. Medications taken: horse dewormer, ibuprofen, aspirin, tylenol. We're also starting the wife on the horse dewormer for prevention, plus full Rin protocol and upped Vit D.
Interesting @mell
Let us know what symptoms you have and how it goes.
Massive headache, body aches, chills and sweats, fever, dry cough which can turn productive, mild chest congestion, slightly runny nose, no appetite, mild nausea and indigestion. Feels pretty much like a flu. But I'm on day 4 now and think I should be done with it completely by end of the week. Medications taken: horse dewormer, ibuprofen, aspirin, tylenol. We're also starting the wife on the horse dewormer for prevention, plus full Rin protocol and upped Vit D.
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porkchopXpress
2021 Nov 10, 3:20pm
porkchopXpress
2021 Nov 10, 3:20pm
Awww, mell got his Covid cherry popped. I can't believe it has been almost 1 year for me...I feel like a veteran.
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Reality
2021 Nov 10, 4:03pm
mell says
I would skip all body temperature-depressing meds, and then sleep on a heating pad under the back/chest at night to simulate a fever (without exhausting one's own body producing the fever) as a way of enhancing immune function.
Massive headache, body aches, chills and sweats, fever, dry cough which can turn productive, mild chest congestion, slightly runny nose, no appetite, mild nausea and indigestion. Feels pretty much like a flu. But I'm on day 4 now and think I should be done with it completely by end of the week. Medications taken: horse dewormer, ibuprofen, aspirin, tylenol. We're also starting the wife on the horse dewormer for prevention, plus full Rin protocol and upped Vit D.
I would skip all body temperature-depressing meds, and then sleep on a heating pad under the back/chest at night to simulate a fever (without exhausting one's own body producing the fever) as a way of enhancing immune function.
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Shaman
2021 Nov 10, 4:06pm
Shaman
2021 Nov 10, 4:06pm
Reality says
That is a really interesting idea.
sleep on a heating pad under the back/chest at night to simulate a fever
That is a really interesting idea.
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mell
2021 Nov 10, 4:38pm
Reality says
That's a good suggestion for those that don't react with enough fever but I usually do and there's a trade-off between being completely incapacitated due to fever and being able to take care of an infant, a 10yr old and a wife ;) Also NyQuil at night helps others sleep if you don't cough too much, as long as you let it flow during the day and get a good productive cough out. I also usually take half of all indicated dosages, it's enough for me despite being very tall and thus well over 200lbs.
mell saysMassive headache, body aches, chills and sweats, fever, dry cough which can turn productive, mild chest congestion, slightly runny nose, no appetite, mild nausea and indigestion. Feels pretty much like a flu. But I'm on day 4 now and think I should be done with it completely by end of the week. Medications taken: horse dewormer, ibuprofen, aspirin, tylenol. We're also starting the wife on the horse dewormer for prevention, plus full Rin protocol and upped Vit D.
I would skip all body temperature-depressing meds, and then sleep on a heating pad under the back/chest at night to simulate a fever (without exhausting one's own body producing the fever) as a way of enhancing immune function.
That's a good suggestion for those that don't react with enough fever but I usually do and there's a trade-off between being completely incapacitated due to fever and being able to take care of an infant, a 10yr old and a wife ;) Also NyQuil at night helps others sleep if you don't cough too much, as long as you let it flow during the day and get a good productive cough out. I also usually take half of all indicated dosages, it's enough for me despite being very tall and thus well over 200lbs.
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mell
2021 Nov 10, 6:13pm
The worst symptom of covid by far though is being ostracized - sure personally I give zero fucks but I have a family to juggle. My older son's mom is already faulting me for getting covid and freaking out though it was likely on a bus ride with him where I caught it (and I don't want her to blitz jab the kid). It's total perversion, the patient is the perpetrator...unvaxxed? asshole! The pharma complex and their henchmen at the cdc and fda and the brandon administration have done everything to whip up panic in the masses and pit them against each other. It was not even part of the 10 worst flus/colds in my life. yeah it sucks but they have successfully weaponized a regular cold/flu.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Nov 10, 6:58pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Nov 10, 6:58pm
mell says
Per Kerry Mullis, PCR is not for detecting infection. From what I've read there is no reliable test. As to the last, you're talking about voluntarily telling the government you have covid and didn't take the shots? I would strongly advise against this. A government that does the kind of things they are now doing also makes lists, I fucking guarantee it. Don't get on a list.
Better to thumb your nose from relative obscurity.
Would any of you advise getting a PCR test from a testing station as a verification of recovery? It's valid for 6 months in Germany in lieu of vaccination for example, but the drawback is the invasive nature of the questions and if you give your real address all those neurotic people will get a warning on their cell phone that somebody close by has the coof? Pros and cons.
Per Kerry Mullis, PCR is not for detecting infection. From what I've read there is no reliable test. As to the last, you're talking about voluntarily telling the government you have covid and didn't take the shots? I would strongly advise against this. A government that does the kind of things they are now doing also makes lists, I fucking guarantee it. Don't get on a list.
Better to thumb your nose from relative obscurity.
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mell
2021 Nov 10, 8:06pm
NuttBoxer says
It's for immunity passports which currently only give you 6 months without testing in certain countries but could be expanded and maybe natural immunity will be adopted in the US as well eventually. You don't have to answer most questions,and you can also be homeless which is not a stretch in the bay area
mell saysWould any of you advise getting a PCR test from a testing station as a verification of recovery? It's valid for 6 months in Germany in lieu of vaccination for example, but the drawback is the invasive nature of the questions and if you give your real address all those neurotic people will get a warning on their cell phone that somebody close by has the coof? Pros and cons.
Per Kerry Mullis, PCR is not for detecting infection. From what I've read there is no reliable test. As to the last, you're talking about voluntarily telling the government you have covid and didn't take the shots? I would strongly advise against this. A government that does the kind of things they are now doing also makes lists, I fucking guarantee it. Don't get on a list.
Better to thumb your nose from relative obscurity.
It's for immunity passports which currently only give you 6 months without testing in certain countries but could be expanded and maybe natural immunity will be adopted in the US as well eventually. You don't have to answer most questions,and you can also be homeless which is not a stretch in the bay area
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2021 Nov 10, 8:19pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2021 Nov 10, 8:19pm
WookieMan says
The question indeed.
The hypochondriacs are having a field day. Really for the past 18 months. So are the unreasonably introverted, the anti socials, the nervous nellies, and every other normally and appropriately marginalized persons who refuse to go with the normal adult program.
The emotionally incompetent have won the day and are the willing tools of facist leftists.
It can only happen in an extremely wealthy nation. Everyone else in the world is working too hard in case the roof might not stay on their head or the next meal doesn’t magically appear on their table.
NuttBoxer saysWhen did people get so scared of getting sick?
You've asked the question of the pandemic. Fear itself will raise BP and anxiety and just cause more harm. Everyone with 20 years left in life WILL get covid. There's no point in fearing it. Be ready to treat it. Stay healthy. Supplement as you say. None of this is being said. Instead vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.... Oh wait, cases are close to as high without a vaccine last year. Statistically the vaccine doesn't work. Don't give a shit what big pharma or Fauci is saying. It's math. Hence the line "trust the science." It's a god damn math problem, not science.
The question indeed.
The hypochondriacs are having a field day. Really for the past 18 months. So are the unreasonably introverted, the anti socials, the nervous nellies, and every other normally and appropriately marginalized persons who refuse to go with the normal adult program.
The emotionally incompetent have won the day and are the willing tools of facist leftists.
It can only happen in an extremely wealthy nation. Everyone else in the world is working too hard in case the roof might not stay on their head or the next meal doesn’t magically appear on their table.
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vijer
2021 Nov 10, 9:01pm
Why not get tested to see if you got covid?
I got something last week, got tested and it's not covid. Just a bad cold. It's going around.
I got something last week, got tested and it's not covid. Just a bad cold. It's going around.
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vijer
2021 Nov 10, 9:29pm
NuttBoxer says
Yes and no.
For the short term you have high levels of antibodies that are a shield, and can prevent you from getting the virus take hold in your body again. Long term, you have immune memory but can still get infected, you just clear the illness quickly within a few days.
Same as the vaxx. The reason for boosters is to keep antibodies high.
BayArea saysYou won’t have permanent immunity
Studies show 20+ years whenever you recover from a viral infection. Covid has been around forever, so not to say I'll never get a covid virus, just won't ever get this covid virus again
Yes and no.
For the short term you have high levels of antibodies that are a shield, and can prevent you from getting the virus take hold in your body again. Long term, you have immune memory but can still get infected, you just clear the illness quickly within a few days.
Same as the vaxx. The reason for boosters is to keep antibodies high.
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NDrLoR
2021 Nov 10, 9:31pm
NDrLoR
2021 Nov 10, 9:31pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
It can only happen in an extremely wealthy nationOur grandparents and great grandparents would be amazed and disappointed. Those who lived through ten years of Great Depression then five years of world war with it's dreary music and ugly styles, who dropped everything and went into defense work if they weren't draft eligible, would yawn at this. Both my parents and their families lived through the 1918 Pandemic without any fatalities, my father was 20 and my mother was 16. Wish I'd thought to ask them if they knew anyone who died or even got sick and recovered. With so many dead, it seems like it would be hard not to have known someone who at least got sick for awhile.
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HeadSet
2021 Nov 10, 9:53pm
HeadSet
2021 Nov 10, 9:53pm
vijer says
Really? The long term immunity is from the B and T cells. Antibodies are short lived. The reason for booster shots is to keep big pharma profits high.
For the short term you have high levels of antibodies that are a shield, and can prevent you from getting the virus take hold in your body again. Long term, you have immune memory but can still get infected, you just clear the illness quickly within a few days.
Same as the vaxx. The reason for boosters is to keep antibodies high.
Really? The long term immunity is from the B and T cells. Antibodies are short lived. The reason for booster shots is to keep big pharma profits high.
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Patrick
2021 Nov 10, 10:23pm
Patrick
2021 Nov 10, 10:23pm
NDrLoR says
My great grandfather from Poland died in the Spanish Flu pandemic in 1918 in Chicago. He left a wife and four kids, who were impoverished by his death.
Both my parents and their families lived through the 1918 Pandemic without any fatalities, my father was 20 and my mother was 16. Wish I'd thought to ask them if they knew anyone who died or even got sick and recovered. With so many dead, it seems like it would be hard not to have known someone who at least got sick for awhile.
My great grandfather from Poland died in the Spanish Flu pandemic in 1918 in Chicago. He left a wife and four kids, who were impoverished by his death.
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richwicks
2021 Nov 11, 5:08am
richwicks
2021 Nov 11, 5:08am
NDrLoR says
Yes, they did. I talked to my grandparents and their brother's and sisters about this. What I heard (as a child - if I remember correctly) is EVERYBODY knew somebody who died.
I don't know anybody personally that has gotten sick from sars-cov2-19 in my little circle, but I know a few people that have had bad reactions to the vaccine but not serious. One of my parents friends was down for a couple days after the vaccine, a neighbor had gut problems for a few weeks.
my father was 20 and my mother was 16. Wish I'd thought to ask them if they knew anyone who died or even got sick and recovered.
Yes, they did. I talked to my grandparents and their brother's and sisters about this. What I heard (as a child - if I remember correctly) is EVERYBODY knew somebody who died.
I don't know anybody personally that has gotten sick from sars-cov2-19 in my little circle, but I know a few people that have had bad reactions to the vaccine but not serious. One of my parents friends was down for a couple days after the vaccine, a neighbor had gut problems for a few weeks.
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richwicks
2021 Nov 11, 5:10am
richwicks
2021 Nov 11, 5:10am
vijer says
Oh, ask them to turn the PCR test up a bit. You'll be positive. What's it set to now? 20 cycles? 10?
I got something last week, got tested and it's not covid. Just a bad cold. It's going around.
Oh, ask them to turn the PCR test up a bit. You'll be positive. What's it set to now? 20 cycles? 10?
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mell
2021 Nov 11, 6:27am
richwicks says
That's why I did the antigen at home first. That one does not lie
vijer saysI got something last week, got tested and it's not covid. Just a bad cold. It's going around.
Oh, ask them to turn the PCR test up a bit. You'll be positive. What's it set to now? 20 cycles? 10?
That's why I did the antigen at home first. That one does not lie
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Nov 11, 7:36am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Nov 11, 7:36am
vijer says
Do you also get a test every time you get the flu? What about a cold? Food poisoning?
In case you haven't noticed, the obsession with tests was in order to create the mirage of a pandemic, without the substance of one. If covid's deadly, then I would have died, and what's the fucking point of a test then? If it's not, why get tested when I don't test myself any other time I get sick? I know what I got.
Why not get tested to see if you got covid?
Do you also get a test every time you get the flu? What about a cold? Food poisoning?
In case you haven't noticed, the obsession with tests was in order to create the mirage of a pandemic, without the substance of one. If covid's deadly, then I would have died, and what's the fucking point of a test then? If it's not, why get tested when I don't test myself any other time I get sick? I know what I got.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Nov 11, 7:45am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Nov 11, 7:45am
vijer says
The body is capable of recognizing a mutation of up to 20% after 20 years of no exposure, and repel it. And that doesn't mean get sick, that means immunity. Covid virus's can only mutate 0.03%.
My friend who got all his shots still got covid, was deemed at high risk during his sickness(no reduction in severity of symptoms), still can't smell, and has trouble working due to brain fog. I don't have any of that. So no, there is zero similarity between naturally fighting off covid, and a genetically modified human getting covid.
I would suggest you either have not done your research, or have been grossly mis-informed.
Yes and no.
For the short term you have high levels of antibodies that are a shield, and can prevent you from getting the virus take hold in your body again. Long term, you have immune memory but can still get infected, you just clear the illness quickly within a few days.
Same as the vaxx. The reason for boosters is to keep antibodies high.
The body is capable of recognizing a mutation of up to 20% after 20 years of no exposure, and repel it. And that doesn't mean get sick, that means immunity. Covid virus's can only mutate 0.03%.
My friend who got all his shots still got covid, was deemed at high risk during his sickness(no reduction in severity of symptoms), still can't smell, and has trouble working due to brain fog. I don't have any of that. So no, there is zero similarity between naturally fighting off covid, and a genetically modified human getting covid.
I would suggest you either have not done your research, or have been grossly mis-informed.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2021 Nov 11, 8:11am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2021 Nov 11, 8:11am
NuttBoxer says
don't have any of that.Indeed, your natural vaccination and resulting immune education is quite superior to your friend's. You are abe to recognize and respond to the entire viral antigenic proteome, both external and internal antigens, whereas your friend is only able to recognize and respond to a fraction of the viral antigens.
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Patrick
2021 Nov 11, 10:35am
Patrick
2021 Nov 11, 10:35am
https://patrick.net/post/1342200/2021-10-31-if-you-take-the-vaxx-you-can-never-achi
If You Take the Vaxx, You Can Never Achieve Full Immunity Again
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Ceffer
2021 Nov 11, 11:15am
Ceffer
2021 Nov 11, 11:15am
My Pureblood antigens FUCK the virus and make it squeal for more! Cough, Cough, Hack!
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Nasty sickness for sure. Saps your appetite, and hard to get good sleep. I can see how people in poor health could easily be pushed over the edge. Was thinking about the two times governments have refused to turn over the DNA sequence(Ireland and Canada), and now I'm thinking it's not because they didn't have it. I think there's something malicious in the full DNA sequence for covid, that if released, would implicate certain people unequivocally as bio-terrorists.
Nasty sickness, but was never even close to requiring hospitalization, and now I'll have permanent immunity that anyone who got the shot may never be able to achieve. Also, my treatment regiment gives me 0% chance of heart problems, GBS, seizures, tremors, depleted T-cells, complete loss of immunity in just a few months, or death. When did people get so scared of getting sick?