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Patrick says

This analysis seems reasonable to me:

https://rumble.com/vw4bn1-dmitry-orlov-russias-incursion-into-ukraine-necessary-for-security.html?source=patrick.net

I stopped reading at "Putin's goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists". Ukrainian president is a Jew, so It may as well have been "get rid of the Nazi extremists and their synagogue".

mostly reader says

"Putin's goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists".

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/take-power-hands-not-let-nazis-use-human-shields-putin-tells-ukrainian-army/?source=patrick.net

If you are on the same side of an issue as Liz Cheney, you might want to re-think things.

> Tenpoundbass
Aaand, yet again you post something extraordinarily stupid. I mean, seriously, who would want to use war criminal for reference? Now, will you start another thread about how you speak your truth in your Calvins, but mean "mostly reader" harasses you?

mostly reader says

I stopped reading at "Putin's goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists". Ukrainian president is a Jew, so It may as well have been "get rid of the Nazi extremists and their synagogue".

I don't know how many real Nazi believers there are in the Ukraine, could just be propaganda, like Trump being a Nazi.

But I am pretty sure that Russia has a legitimate security concern about Ukraine joining NATO.

mostly reader says

> Tenpoundbass
Aaand, yet again you post something extraordinarily stupid. I mean, seriously, who would want to use war criminal for reference? Now, will you start another thread about how you speak your truth in your Calvins, but mean "mostly reader" harasses you?

Just for Shit's and Bloody Stools, who did you vote for in the 2020 election?

And for the Morons carry water for the official narrative, answer one blaring question.

Why are we still buying Russian Oil if they have been sanctioned to the point, we're trying to financially ruin them?
They are the only game in town for energy right now. We're buying oil from them to gas up the Humvees we're sending to Ukrainne.

mostly reader says

I stopped reading at "Putin's goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists". Ukrainian president is a Jew, so It may as well have been "get rid of the Nazi extremists and their synagogue".

You don't know much about the Nazis, other than the WWII propaganda that survived, do you?

Doesn't ever occur to you that it's odd, that the Nazis, the supposed master race aligned themselves with the Japanese?

Or that they wanted everything folded into 13 Public-Private Corporations to run everything, that Junkers was complaining he was only the titular head of his own company in 1934, and that it eventually was taken from him and placed in the Goering Aircraft Concern... and that official NSDAP policy and laws said all Property Property is conditional on the goals of the state...

"Vulture Economy" - huge dense tome, I think it's available for free on the internet. Packed with all the Socialist, Centralizing, Command Economy actions of the National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party, and most of them prior to 1939.

As for Japan, it was the "Tri-partite" Pact against Communism, though it was first used against the Democracies Poland, France, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, and UK. Since Japan had fought the Soviets recently, several incidents in the 1930s, it was a way of making the Soviets worry about their Far East as well as the West.
https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2016/05/29/khalkhin-gol-1939/

And of course the Nazis happily split Poland with the USSR, screwing up the UK-French hopes for a Nazi-Commie fight that would buy them time to rearm and prepare.Hitler took Nickel, Oil, etc. from the USSR for 2 years and send tech and cash in return.

German saboteurs were arrested in Poland a week before Fall Weiss and the Radio Station, they were under Radio Silence and didn't get the message the attack was delayed.

Hitler's goal was a new HRE, centered in Berlin rather than in Vienna. And a way of gaining Lebensraum in the East, instead of overseas due to the British Navy that made it vulnerable. Also the German people were very "Meh" about colonizing when they did have overseas possessions prior to the end of WW1. Germans preferred to migrate to other European's colonies or independent countries in the New World, particularly the USA, Colombia, and Brazil

In the 1930s, there were countless independent daily and weekly papers in the US with opinions all over the map from Hard Socialist to "Liquidate all businesses" to Let's Imitate Mussolini. From "We gotta fight!" to "Stay the Hell Out". The Overton Window was massively wide before WW2 broke out, esp. in the USA.

Robert Sproul says

I watch some vlogging man-on-the-street guys, one mentioned a couple of things that were kind of astonishing. Apparently Zelensky has emptied the prisons, but how this intersected with handing out 10,000 Close Quarter Rifles had not occurred to me. He said the criminal gangs had no thoughts of battling Russians but immediately started fighting each other for dominance in emptied out Kiev.

That might explain that strange video of the guy being gunned down, if that was Ukraine at all

I see cars driving around and unarmed, clearly civilian people walking around Kiev on webcams and footage that is supposedly from today, inc. the Kiev Tower footage you can see civilian cars driving, following the road rules, etc.

Ukraine army shelling its own people

https://twitter.com/Based_ENG/status/1498224087822487556?source=patrick.net

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Patrick says

mostly reader says

I stopped reading at "Putin's goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists". Ukrainian president is a Jew, so It may as well have been "get rid of the Nazi extremists and their synagogue".

I don't know how many real Nazi believers there are in the Ukraine, could just be propaganda, like Trump being a Nazi.

But I am pretty sure that Russia has a legitimate security concern about Ukraine joining NATO.

Trump comparison is pretty accurate. Not that there are no Nazis there, just like in Russia or US. But Russians leveraged historical angle to the extreme to capitalize on that, and Poroshenko made it somewhat easy for them. He isn't a Nazi, just like Trump isn't, but he was easy to paint as such, easier than Trump. Then Poroshenko lost election to a Jew actor, but the propaganda machine couldn't turn back. They just ignored that inconvenient fact in the mainstream.

We could have a conversation about their NATO-related safety concerns before the attack. Now? Not so much.

There is the Azov Battalion and the rehab of Stephan Bandera and other Nazi Collaborationists.

Exaggerated and Complex, but there is SOME truth to both Russia's Claims about the desires/beliefs of Galicians in the Far West

charlie303 says

Ukraine army shelling its own people

https://twitter.com/Based_ENG/status/1498224087822487556?source=patrick.net

What's the name of the French journalist? She's not speaking French.

I urge people to do simple fact checking. I doubt that's a French journalist and as a result, we can't even trust the translation.

LOL, NYT biased to the Max.



Those fleeing to Russia in dun color, small arrow; those fleeing to west bright yellow highlight.

"Migrants" go to Russia, but "Refugees" go to Europe.

The fact that more Ukrainians went to Russia than any other single country except Poland is nicely glossed over.

This graphic is not accidental or careless.

Now I'm seeing outright lying about Lethal Aid Trump sent to Ukraine.



Putin must win or this will be the "Trump's proven Putler Puppetism" that leads to a Dem House victory in November 2022.

America FIRST. World Second.

AmericanKulak says

LOL, NYT biased to the Max.

NY Times is full of crap. Without seeing the source of their information, anything they say should be just ignored.

The NY Times cannot be trusted exactly because it is part of the "Trusted News Initiative" which is a propaganda program.

Patrick says

Trusted News Initiative"

tRusted news initiative

Germany's disastrous move to drop nuclear power and even more disastrous move to not source carbon based fuels locally (I'd say move to "decarbonize" but it's really just not to use local coal) means Germany is highly reliant on Russia for oil and natural gas. This puts the west in a bind: energy embargo against Russia as sanctions means Germany industry grinds to a halt without power and citizens freezes to death without heat; similarly any war action can be countered by Russia just choosing to shut down energy to Germany with the same kind of results. Meanwhile, China will still buy plenty of energy and other resources from Russia.

So, the conflict is actually economically good for Russia because it spikes oil and gas prices. Something like 90% of the value of Russia's exports is from oil and gas. Even if they sell less of both, they may still see higher profits because of the increased price. If the west embargos Russian energy, Russia won't suffer all that much, but the west will suffer greatly.

Patrick says

I don't know how many real Nazi believers there are in the Ukraine, could just be propaganda

Actually, it looks like there really are a lot of literal Nazis in the Ukraine:

https://hwfo.substack.com/p/hwfo-february-2022-housekeeping?s=r&source=patrick.net

Now Facebook has decided to unban these guys because they’re fighting Russia:

The battalion’s first commander and a former Ukrainian parliamentarian, Andriy Biletsky, stated that Ukraine’s national purpose was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [subhumans].”

Patrick says

The battalion’s first commander and a former Ukrainian parliamentarian, Andriy Biletsky, stated that Ukraine’s national purpose was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [subhumans].”

What an interesting take on it.

They aren't attacking the Semites directly, they are attacking their arms and legs. Hmm.



Are we perhaps being similarly manipulated?

I'm pretty sure that the Ukrainian government is just as bad as the Russian government.

It’s good to break Russia and China into few small countries.

richwicks says

charlie303 says

Ukraine army shelling its own people

https://twitter.com/Based_ENG/status/1498224087822487556?source=patrick.net

What's the name of the French journalist? She's not speaking French.

I urge people to do simple fact checking. I doubt that's a French journalist and as a result, we can't even trust the translation.

You can use a translation app on your phone or computer to try to debunk this if you want.

SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT


original link
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Patrick says

Corruption
Money laundering
Bio weapons labs
Human trafficking including children
And the fact that Russia would not surrender to the globalists vision of a one world communist Govn with mind control and social credit scores for the sheeple.

Putin is removing a Deep State Cabal.
The war is hidden from 'normal' people because they simply would not accept the truth and sink deeper into the narrative trance fed them.
The media is paid for by this cabal and is corrupt and so won't report the truth. There are only something like 6 media corporations but they own a plethora of publishing titles.
Big Tech too!
The war against this Cabal is nearly won and the world, especially for most, will turn upside down this year.

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Blue says

It’s good to break Russia and China into few small countries.

Add America to that list also. I need a freer country.

Germany too. Bavaria, Hannover, Saxony, Westphalia/Rheinland

I was going to remark "hey, sounds like Ruby Ridge".

One analysis of the invasion:

https://ctcitraining.org/blog/2022/03/02/strategic-logic-and-political-ideology-rethinking-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-by-stratfor-global-intelligence/?source=patrick.net

https://dossier.substack.com/p/russia-versus-ukraine-good-versus?s=r&source=patrick.net

Russia versus Ukraine, good versus evil, and two kleptocratic shades of gray
This is not a comic book hero story.

There are geopolitical realities, and then there are ideological frameworks and constructs that don’t bear any resemblance to reality. In America today, we are dealing with the latter framework through shoddy, biased war reporting, presented to us by the corporate media and our ruling class, which insists upon a dichotomy that doesn't exist.

Let’s talk about reality, detached from all of the morality signaling on social media and TV.

Though Russia is the aggressor, and is therefore, responsible for most of the violence and suffering in Ukraine, this does not mean Ukraine can suddenly be labeled as an extension to American founding ideals.

We, the free people of the world, can absolutely support a country that is currently defending itself, but we don’t need to pretend that Ukraine is something that it is not.

Ukraine and Russia might sport separate flags, and they might currently play for different Great Power teams, but the two nations are not so different, after all. On the governance scale, both countries rank as two of the most kleptocratic and corrupted countries on earth. In Russia, oligarchs have heavy sway over the economy and politics of the nation. The same applies in Ukraine, where the sitting president was elected as the mere patron of a powerful oligarch. The average Ukrainian struggles mightily under this unfair, broken system. Ukraine is a country of abject poverty, where the average citizen earns around $3700 bucks a year.

In 2021, Ukraine’s President Zelensky, facing declining poll ratings, took it upon himself to place his foremost political rival under house arrest, while shutting down opposition television networks, all in the name of “national security.”

Why don’t Russia and Ukraine get along? Well, sometimes they do. Ukrainians often elect both pro-West and pro-Russia candidates to higher office. Western governments, in recent history, have not supported when the latter situation occurs, sometimes fomenting clandestine color revolutions to seek their exit from politics in Ukraine. ...

Ukrainian leaders now seem committed to trying to drag their Western partners into face to face conflict with Russia. Ukrainian politicians have a lot to lose, including, potentially their lives, so their desperation is somewhat understandable.

Ukraine might be winning the propaganda war, but the war on the ground tells a different story. Russia continues to secure access to the sea, and it will soon succeed in completely cutting off Ukrainian forces. Russia might be facing heavy sanctions, but its armies continue vacuuming up territory in Ukraine.



So far, NATO (the United States military) has rejected intervening and they should not intervene, because World War 3 is not worth it. But powerful western interests in Washington, D.C. and Brussels are attempting to use Ukrainians as pawns for a longstanding political campaign against Moscow. The massive weapons shipments continue to arrive in western Ukraine, with hopes that Ukrainians will use them in a long campaign against Russia. I hope Ukrainians recognize this, and refuse to act as human sacrifices for these campaigns.

Ukraine, facing a tug of war between Russia and the West, has a way out of the mess, if only its leaders choose to accept the reality it is facing.

Putin’s terms are pretty straightforward.

The recognition of Crimea as part of Russia

The demilitarization of Ukraine

Given that this is Russia’s initial approach, Ukraine can probably find some flexibility on the second demand. Though key to the agreement will come through Ukraine recognizing some geopolitical realities, like the fact that Crimea is most certainly gone, and that the pro-Russia separatist regions in Ukraine want nothing to do with Ukraine.

Since its modern recognition in 1991, Ukraine has remained bogged down by corruption, bad governance, and damaging foreign influence. Should Ukraine truly commit to remaining neutral, the country can reset relations with its neighbors and one day become a free and prosperous nation.

https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/7385?source=patrick.net

Follow the money: how Russia will bypass western economic warfare
The US and EU are over-reaching on Russian sanctions. The end result could be the de-dollarization of the global economy and massive commodity shortages worldwide.

Pepe is more than a little Over The Top but the idea that Russia has no options but the West was invalid 20 years ago.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/vaccine/the-who-is-developing-an-international-vaccine-passport/?source=patrick.net


Covid seems to be on the way out so why develop International Vaccine Passports?
Are viruses developed in biolabs and unleashed on the unsuspecting public to contain population and implement control?
Would the sheeple resist if they knew or would they just obediently believe what the media and big tech and Govn told them to believe and do?
Would many just go along with it anyway? Surrender their freedoms because they just can't be arsed?
Don't believe what you see in the media about damage in Ukraine, that is the Deep State inflicting war on its own people for propaganda purposes.
The hidden war will soon be out in the open and the truth will hit the sheeple like a nuclear bomb.
The Deep State Cabal will fall.
To the victors the spoils.

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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/ukrainian-parliament-member-we-fight-for-this-new-world-order/?source=patrick.net

At 1:40 she says 'We fight for the New World Order'.
What is this New World Order she speaks of?
She's Klaus Schwab's bitch! Like that woman who was involved in PM Johnson's staged press conference.

Remember not only will you own nothing and be happy but you will be presented with the illusion of democracy in order to be more easily controlled.

Sad that so many fell for it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJbW3B59ihI&source=patrick.net

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