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Think you KNOW why Russia invaded the Ukraine?


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2022 Feb 26, 5:07pm   9,050 views  219 comments

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52   charlie303   2022 Feb 27, 10:16am  

WineHorror1 says
I may have misunderstood you. I thought you were saying it as if it was fact.

It forms about 80% - 85% of my '2nd map or worldview', yes.
My 1st map is what you may call a consensus worldview which allows me to interact with most people in the world.
I can't prove a lot of it but I am expecting disclosure on a lot of this this year and on topics such as Operation Dissolution.

The thing is I'm not the only one who is asking these questions and coming to similar conclusions.
There are many in this growing community.


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53   AmericanKulak   2022 Feb 27, 10:27am  

richwicks says

It's all false news. MSNBC is garbage. We'll find out in months, not days, from our supposed "free press".

There is absolutely no integrity in our "mainstream media". We simply don't know at this point.


We know they surrendered now, both Russian AND Ukrainian Defense Ministries confirm:

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/snake-island-ukrainian-defenders-actually-surrendered-to-russian-warship-kyiv-and-moscow-confirm/?source=patrick.net

Plus, video of them being offloaded in Russian port.
54   RWSGFY   2022 Feb 27, 11:04am  

Low IQ is the only plausible explanation for this harebrained "operation".
56   RWSGFY   2022 Feb 27, 11:26am  

Fortwaynemobile says
Misc says
Patrick says
https://notthebee.com/article/these-ukrainian-soldiers-will-go-down-in-history-as-absolute-chads?source=patrick.net


13 more cases of death by Covid


No, article isn’t true. They surrendered and are alive.


... said Vldolf Putler?
57   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Feb 27, 11:31am  

FuckCCP89 says
Fortwaynemobile says
Misc says
Patrick says
https://notthebee.com/article/these-ukrainian-soldiers-will-go-down-in-history-as-absolute-chads?source=patrick.net


13 more cases of death by Covid


No, article isn’t true. They surrendered and are alive.


... said Vldolf Putler?


That was on news yesterday as story correction, they showed them being very alive.
58   Smellytuna   2022 Feb 27, 11:35am  

WineHorror1 says
Please tell us.
Brandon, Pelosi, Mitt Romney, & John Kerry all have relatives that are employed in Ukraine
59   RWSGFY   2022 Feb 27, 12:23pm  

Fortwaynemobile says
FuckCCP89 says
Fortwaynemobile says
Misc says
Patrick says
https://notthebee.com/article/these-ukrainian-soldiers-will-go-down-in-history-as-absolute-chads?source=patrick.net


13 more cases of death by Covid


No, article isn’t true. They surrendered and are alive.


... said Vldolf Putler?


That was on news yesterday as story correction, they showed them being very alive.


Who? RT? Fucking shit, man, stop gobbling up putler's jizz.





Top: "Ukie soldiers surrendered near Petrivske"
Bottom: "Ukie border guards who told RWS to GFY have surrendered"

Same fucking guy surrendered in two very different locations?
60   AmericanKulak   2022 Feb 27, 12:39pm  

It's ALL Bullshit from ALL Sides.

The Russians are more inept at Social Media propaganda and naturally close-mouthed about operations, but EuroSorosMaidan are far better skilled and aggressive in getting out their baloney, so mostly it's their BS being promulgated. Ghost of Kiev, Snake Island, Whole Russian Mechanized Brigade stopped at Sumy, etc. etc.

One Russian BS narrative is that Blacks in Ukraine not being let in by Poland, that's not the case. It's the Ukrainians approving Ukrainian women and children first and making Nigerians, Ghanan, etc. Male and unmarried female students wait. They are doing the same with singles/students from the Middle East and elsewhere, too. Not racist.

The only thing we know for sure is that the Russians are about 30km on the North Side of Kiev somewheres - and it seems to be Airborne/Airmobile troops. Everything else is propaganda war unknown.

Edit: And the Ukrainians don't have that totally under control since the blew up the bridges leading from the Antonov Airport the day after it was contested, and because the CNN reporter mistakenly interviewed troops and the Russians said "We're not Ukrainians, you know" a couple of days ago.
61   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Feb 27, 1:12pm  

RWSGFY says
Who? RT? Fucking shit, man, stop gobbling up putler's jizz.


No, some American site.
62   richwicks   2022 Feb 27, 2:50pm  

RWSGFY says
... said Vldolf Putler?




You're smarter than that.
63   komputodo   2022 Feb 28, 6:11am  

WineHorror1 says
Yep, they're setting fires all over the place and walking away to start more fires. Endless fires all being done on purpose.

Yes and now they've marched out the Russian nuclear threat narrative to instill more fear...Remember the inevitable N. Korea nuclear missle attacks a few years ago? That had several Patnet reader's panties in a knot. BTW, what happened to the daily Covid cases reports?
64   Patrick   2022 Feb 28, 10:10pm  

komputodo says
BTW, what happened to the daily Covid cases reports?


Lol, everyone knows someone who had a case of it and that it wasn't such a big deal. That deflates the fear.
65   richwicks   2022 Feb 28, 10:41pm  

Patrick says
komputodo says
BTW, what happened to the daily Covid cases reports?


Lol, everyone knows someone who had a case of it and that it wasn't such a big deal. That deflates the fear.


I know several people that have it now, at least one person in the household tested positive. They're going through it now.
66   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 1, 1:29am  

We need a 20-year ban on WW2 analogies. Anybody who comments needs to compare it to another war.

Seems to me Putin is more like Britain in the 1800s, seeing Alliances and Expansion of the Napoleonic Empire all over the continent... and one by one major power allies get taken out.
67   Bd6r   2022 Mar 1, 6:27am  

HunterTits says
Ukraine is but one small step to Russia getting more secure borders.

It goes real well for Russians now. I recall it all should have been over in 72 or 96 hours.
68   Robert Sproul   2022 Mar 1, 6:54am  

AmericanKulak says
It's ALL Bullshit from ALL Sides.

This is so true that I can barely pay attention to this Wag the Dog Show.
I watch some vlogging man-on-the-street guys, one mentioned a couple of things that were kind of astonishing. Apparently Zelensky has emptied the prisons, but how this intersected with handing out 10,000 Close Quarter Rifles had not occurred to me. He said the criminal gangs had no thoughts of battling Russians but immediately started fighting each other for dominance in emptied out Kiev.
Seems like a deliberate 'pallets-of-bricks' type of Soros Chaos Catalyst.
69   mostly reader   2022 Mar 1, 7:08am  

Bd6r says
HunterTits says
Ukraine is but one small step to Russia getting more secure borders.

It goes real well for Russians now. I recall it all should have been over in 72 or 96 hours.
Lukashenko is officially a Russian puppet: he started assault in Chernigov region.
71   mostly reader   2022 Mar 1, 7:20am  

Patrick says
This analysis seems reasonable to me:

https://rumble.com/vw4bn1-dmitry-orlov-russias-incursion-into-ukraine-necessary-for-security.html?source=patrick.net
I stopped reading at "Putin's goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists". Ukrainian president is a Jew, so It may as well have been "get rid of the Nazi extremists and their synagogue".
73   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Mar 1, 7:31am  

If you are on the same side of an issue as Liz Cheney, you might want to re-think things.
74   mostly reader   2022 Mar 1, 7:32am  

> Tenpoundbass
Aaand, yet again you post something extraordinarily stupid. I mean, seriously, who would want to use war criminal for reference? Now, will you start another thread about how you speak your truth in your Calvins, but mean "mostly reader" harasses you?
75   Patrick   2022 Mar 1, 7:42am  

mostly reader says
I stopped reading at "Putin's goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists". Ukrainian president is a Jew, so It may as well have been "get rid of the Nazi extremists and their synagogue".



I don't know how many real Nazi believers there are in the Ukraine, could just be propaganda, like Trump being a Nazi.

But I am pretty sure that Russia has a legitimate security concern about Ukraine joining NATO.
76   Tenpoundbass   2022 Mar 1, 7:46am  

mostly reader says
> Tenpoundbass
Aaand, yet again you post something extraordinarily stupid. I mean, seriously, who would want to use war criminal for reference? Now, will you start another thread about how you speak your truth in your Calvins, but mean "mostly reader" harasses you?


Just for Shit's and Bloody Stools, who did you vote for in the 2020 election?
77   Tenpoundbass   2022 Mar 1, 7:52am  

And for the Morons carry water for the official narrative, answer one blaring question.

Why are we still buying Russian Oil if they have been sanctioned to the point, we're trying to financially ruin them?
They are the only game in town for energy right now. We're buying oil from them to gas up the Humvees we're sending to Ukrainne.
78   richwicks   2022 Mar 1, 9:19am  

mostly reader says
I stopped reading at "Putin's goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists". Ukrainian president is a Jew, so It may as well have been "get rid of the Nazi extremists and their synagogue".


You don't know much about the Nazis, other than the WWII propaganda that survived, do you?

Doesn't ever occur to you that it's odd, that the Nazis, the supposed master race aligned themselves with the Japanese?
79   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 1, 9:24am  

Or that they wanted everything folded into 13 Public-Private Corporations to run everything, that Junkers was complaining he was only the titular head of his own company in 1934, and that it eventually was taken from him and placed in the Goering Aircraft Concern... and that official NSDAP policy and laws said all Property Property is conditional on the goals of the state...

"Vulture Economy" - huge dense tome, I think it's available for free on the internet. Packed with all the Socialist, Centralizing, Command Economy actions of the National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party, and most of them prior to 1939.

As for Japan, it was the "Tri-partite" Pact against Communism, though it was first used against the Democracies Poland, France, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, and UK. Since Japan had fought the Soviets recently, several incidents in the 1930s, it was a way of making the Soviets worry about their Far East as well as the West.
https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2016/05/29/khalkhin-gol-1939/

And of course the Nazis happily split Poland with the USSR, screwing up the UK-French hopes for a Nazi-Commie fight that would buy them time to rearm and prepare.Hitler took Nickel, Oil, etc. from the USSR for 2 years and send tech and cash in return.

German saboteurs were arrested in Poland a week before Fall Weiss and the Radio Station, they were under Radio Silence and didn't get the message the attack was delayed.

Hitler's goal was a new HRE, centered in Berlin rather than in Vienna. And a way of gaining Lebensraum in the East, instead of overseas due to the British Navy that made it vulnerable. Also the German people were very "Meh" about colonizing when they did have overseas possessions prior to the end of WW1. Germans preferred to migrate to other European's colonies or independent countries in the New World, particularly the USA, Colombia, and Brazil

In the 1930s, there were countless independent daily and weekly papers in the US with opinions all over the map from Hard Socialist to "Liquidate all businesses" to Let's Imitate Mussolini. From "We gotta fight!" to "Stay the Hell Out". The Overton Window was massively wide before WW2 broke out, esp. in the USA.
80   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 1, 9:27am  

Robert Sproul says
I watch some vlogging man-on-the-street guys, one mentioned a couple of things that were kind of astonishing. Apparently Zelensky has emptied the prisons, but how this intersected with handing out 10,000 Close Quarter Rifles had not occurred to me. He said the criminal gangs had no thoughts of battling Russians but immediately started fighting each other for dominance in emptied out Kiev.


That might explain that strange video of the guy being gunned down, if that was Ukraine at all

I see cars driving around and unarmed, clearly civilian people walking around Kiev on webcams and footage that is supposedly from today, inc. the Kiev Tower footage you can see civilian cars driving, following the road rules, etc.
82   mostly reader   2022 Mar 1, 10:14am  

Patrick says
mostly reader says
I stopped reading at "Putin's goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists". Ukrainian president is a Jew, so It may as well have been "get rid of the Nazi extremists and their synagogue".



I don't know how many real Nazi believers there are in the Ukraine, could just be propaganda, like Trump being a Nazi.

But I am pretty sure that Russia has a legitimate security concern about Ukraine joining NATO.
Trump comparison is pretty accurate. Not that there are no Nazis there, just like in Russia or US. But Russians leveraged historical angle to the extreme to capitalize on that, and Poroshenko made it somewhat easy for them. He isn't a Nazi, just like Trump isn't, but he was easy to paint as such, easier than Trump. Then Poroshenko lost election to a Jew actor, but the propaganda machine couldn't turn back. They just ignored that inconvenient fact in the mainstream.

We could have a conversation about their NATO-related safety concerns before the attack. Now? Not so much.
83   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 1, 10:26am  

There is the Azov Battalion and the rehab of Stephan Bandera and other Nazi Collaborationists.

Exaggerated and Complex, but there is SOME truth to both Russia's Claims about the desires/beliefs of Galicians in the Far West
84   richwicks   2022 Mar 1, 11:04am  

charlie303 says
Ukraine army shelling its own people

https://twitter.com/Based_ENG/status/1498224087822487556?source=patrick.net


What's the name of the French journalist? She's not speaking French.

I urge people to do simple fact checking. I doubt that's a French journalist and as a result, we can't even trust the translation.
85   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 1, 11:09am  

LOL, NYT biased to the Max.



Those fleeing to Russia in dun color, small arrow; those fleeing to west bright yellow highlight.

"Migrants" go to Russia, but "Refugees" go to Europe.

The fact that more Ukrainians went to Russia than any other single country except Poland is nicely glossed over.

This graphic is not accidental or careless.
86   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 1, 11:19am  

Now I'm seeing outright lying about Lethal Aid Trump sent to Ukraine.



Putin must win or this will be the "Trump's proven Putler Puppetism" that leads to a Dem House victory in November 2022.

America FIRST. World Second.
87   richwicks   2022 Mar 1, 11:23am  

AmericanKulak says
LOL, NYT biased to the Max.


NY Times is full of crap. Without seeing the source of their information, anything they say should be just ignored.
88   Patrick   2022 Mar 1, 11:27am  

The NY Times cannot be trusted exactly because it is part of the "Trusted News Initiative" which is a propaganda program.
89   Bd6r   2022 Mar 1, 11:28am  

Patrick says
Trusted News Initiative"

tRusted news initiative
90   SunnyvaleCA   2022 Mar 1, 2:27pm  

Germany's disastrous move to drop nuclear power and even more disastrous move to not source carbon based fuels locally (I'd say move to "decarbonize" but it's really just not to use local coal) means Germany is highly reliant on Russia for oil and natural gas. This puts the west in a bind: energy embargo against Russia as sanctions means Germany industry grinds to a halt without power and citizens freezes to death without heat; similarly any war action can be countered by Russia just choosing to shut down energy to Germany with the same kind of results. Meanwhile, China will still buy plenty of energy and other resources from Russia.

So, the conflict is actually economically good for Russia because it spikes oil and gas prices. Something like 90% of the value of Russia's exports is from oil and gas. Even if they sell less of both, they may still see higher profits because of the increased price. If the west embargos Russian energy, Russia won't suffer all that much, but the west will suffer greatly.
91   Patrick   2022 Mar 1, 8:14pm  

Patrick says
I don't know how many real Nazi believers there are in the Ukraine, could just be propaganda


Actually, it looks like there really are a lot of literal Nazis in the Ukraine:

https://hwfo.substack.com/p/hwfo-february-2022-housekeeping?s=r&source=patrick.net


Now Facebook has decided to unban these guys because they’re fighting Russia:

The battalion’s first commander and a former Ukrainian parliamentarian, Andriy Biletsky, stated that Ukraine’s national purpose was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [subhumans].”




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