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I respectfully disagree. Vulgarity is under the free speech umbrella. I may not like how one chooses to express themselves, but I defend their right to say it.
Sticks and stones and all that...
Personal threats is a grey area... in a (mostly) anonymous forum the risk of a threat being realized are thankfully low.
Patrick's site, Patrick's rules. This isn't a democracy. He can ban anyone for any reason. It's his namesake, not your or mine.
That said, this place allows for a range of opinions which is why I lurk so much.
There is an innate human tendency to vilify those we disagree with. That's the wrong way to argue, because it only hardens positions and makes people deaf to your legitimate arguments.
anonymous forums are great to bring out entrenched interests or habits and help correct asymmetries in power structure the elites have
vilification of tyrants and their lackeys in needed every second of the day.
The problem with an anonymous forum is that no one feels worried about deliberately insulting people they never meet. So I think this rule against deliberate personal insults of other users is needed to keep the discussion from degenerating into crap that no one wants to read and which does nothing at all to help resolve or clarify issues.
Sure, but calling Trump a senile, racist, fascist really didn't help much when an actually senile, racist, fascist was placed into the executive office by the CIA. Now they have a new problem, the legitimacy of the US government is at risk. Even the dullest people are starting to wonder if the ballot is legitimate.
I asked a friend at Facebook how Facebook handles such things, and he said they don't have to, because users simply unfriend anyone who deliberately insults them.
I think this rule against deliberate personal insults of other users is needed to keep the discussion from degenerating into crap that no one wants to read
When you have the wrong idea, calling them stupid doesn't allow them to figure out they do.
Maybe somebody DOES have a stupid opinion, but for God's sakes, explain it to everybody else and to them.
Right. I don't mind if someone says that an argument is stupid. But then you say the person is stupid, you're no longer talking about the argument.
Right. I don't mind if someone says that an argument is stupid. But then you say the person is stupid, you're no longer talking about the argument.
The reason there's free speech is to protect the truth, not lies. Moderated speech is to protect lies.
Patrick saysRight. I don't mind if someone says that an argument is stupid. But then you say the person is stupid, you're no longer talking about the argument.
How is that possible?
Aren't all of us were fact checking the liberal fact checkers during election?
Maybe you can even get them to agree eventually and then you're likely to have a new friend rather than a new enemy.
Once it goes south, I've generally found it doesn't get better.
You then may post the resulting encrypted message right here, for me to decrypt/read.
To be clear: I don't plan to exploit this bug. Let's call it "honor system ban".
If anyone decides to p-2-p to me, here's my public key:
-----BEGIN PUBLIC KEY-----
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eQIDAQAB
-----END PUBLIC KEY-----
You can encrypt your message by doing something like this:
> openssl rsautl -encrypt -inkey mostly-reader-pub.pem -pubin -in message-to-mostly-reader.txt | openssl base64
- assuming that you save your message to me in "message-to-mostly-reader.txt" and my public key in "mostly-reader-pub.pem" (of course you should know better than put it in ~/.ssh)
You then may post the resulting encrypted message right here, for me to decrypt/read.
Good luck in your future endeavors.