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Jews, Russian POWs, and Serbian POWs were at the bottom of the list. They were worked to death on a dwindling diet, if not shot dead out right like Babi Yar.

The Holocaust was basically the same as Japanese Treatment of POWs, with again some groups were shot or starved more readily that others. For example, Nationalist or Red Chinese eagerly shot or given the worst tasks, with the European POWs given dwindling resources that was mostly driven by supply line cuts.

In any case, the inferred remarks of sour puss German Apologists is that the Allies shouldn't have interdicted the supply lines and were thus responsible, which is silly. Mosquitos had a wonderful time sinking barges and blowing up rail cars and right on for effective tactics. Not doing so would have been retarded.

However, there was excellent and abundant documentation extermination was the official end goal for both Jews and Slavs, with the former given higher and earlier priority. As the Nazis began losing in 1944 they decided to just kill the Jews; not much of the Russian POW front because by that time they were generally retreating in the East and took far fewer prisoners. They did indeed have gas chambers, there's 1000 of eyewitnesses from the Camp Guards themselves to Polish Insurgents to other Inmates, not to mention logistic records. But again, that was towards the end when the Armies were encroaching into Polish territory where most of the camps were. Before that, happy to work to death.

And we have Generalplan Ost which described the intended treatment of all Slavs: Kill the old and the very young, enslave the adults, and work them to death. When too old to be of use, tell their German factory/family employers they were going to the Happy Slav Retirement home, but do them like the Horse in Animal Farm.

Not much different than Stalin's Gulags. Work the undesireables to death.

Dachau and Auchwitz were immense and had pool tables, swimming pools, theaters, cafeterias, etc. - for the hundreds of employees who lived and worked on base.

Wayyy too much attention has been paid to gas chambers, or medical experiments, or louche stories of human lampshades, when the #1 cause was worked (malnurishment) to death, and #2 Shot outright (like Babi Yar - or simply herded into barns and burned, like with Russian POWs)

AmericanKulak says

In any case, the inferred remarks of sour puss German Apologists is that the Allies shouldn't have interdicted the supply lines and were thus responsible, which is silly. Mosquitos had a wonderful time sinking barges and blowing up rail cars and right on for effective tactics. Not doing so would have been retarded.

I don't disagree.

I'm pointing out that the narrative we are given, is false. That's all.

Should the Allies have cut supply lines in order to win the war? Of course.

Should the war even happened in the first place though? Wars happen because of a "failure" in diplomacy, but quite often, they are quite intentional and it's no failure at all.

AmericanKulak says

However, there was excellent and abundant documentation extermination was the official end goal for both Jews and Slavs, with the former given higher and earlier priority.

There was official documentation to exterminate the Poles - but not for Jews. Extermination wasn't so much "kill them all" rather than ethnic cleansing, "remove them at any cost". That's what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians and frankly what the US did to the native American.

I don't want to open this can of worms. I am only interested to the point that my government lied and we have propaganda. Dissecting it and finding the truth is an arduous task which I have no interest in. Every lie has a purpose, I'm interested in the purpose of the lie once I've identified it. But a lie never had a noble purpose, Neocon FUCKS think there is a noble lie, there isn't. That's their fundamental lie.

War sucks, and when war happens, it's because some asshole wanted it, not because the people stuck under that asshole wanted it. Do you really think Ukrainians in the West wanted to bomb Ukrainians in the East? Maybe if they were PROPAGANDIZED, lied to..

People who go along to get along though, I'm rather sick of them. I hate sheep.

someone else says

How about a national day where everyone is encouraged to say politically incorrect things?"
#politics

Celebrate it every day.

richwicks says

I don't want to open this can of worms. I am only interested to the point that my government lied and we have propaganda. Dissecting it and finding the truth is an arduous task which I have no interest in. Every lie has a purpose, I'm interested in the purpose of the lie once I've identified it. But a lie never had a noble purpose, Neocon FUCKS think there is a noble lie, there isn't. That's their fundamental lie.

Nor I.

What I like to bring up, we don't need ANY mention of Jews to show Hitler was a mass murdering Socialist. We have the mass graves of the Poles executed - first the Mentally Ill in Wards, then the local leadership in various parts of Poland - right down to the Dental records matching the disappeared. Thousands of them in just the few weeks during/after Fall Weiss. And many hundred of thousands more over the next few years.

As well as the German Saboteurs arrested one week before Fall Weiss, under Radio Silence, they failed to get the word the attack was delayed a week and were arrested and confessed before Hitler False Flagged the Radio Station using petty criminals and anarchists dressed in Polish Uniforms.

We have Jasenovac in Yugoslavia that shows systemic extermination of prisoners/civilians.

"Hitler was the greatest anti-communist".

No, he wasn't, he invaded/annexed two of the most anti-Communist countries in 1930s Europe - Czechoslovakia and Poland. The latter having actually fought a war with the USSR in the previous decade.

He also invaded Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Holland, Luxemborg, and got into wars with the UK, Greece, Serbia, etc. - almost all these countries were not Communist.

Hitler also mass-nationalized companies right down to Junkers Aircraft, Junkers himself complained in 1936 he had no say or power over his own company thanks to the National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party who official documents as well as Mein Kampf called for all of society to be subsumed to the National State interest.

History can be rewritten both ways. In the 1930s, it was neither illegal nor uncommon for people to admire various things about the Nazi State. The whole purpose of appeasement was to turn Hitler's nose east, get him in a fight with the Soviets, and re-build the French and British militaries. Trench Warfare repeat was expected, so they figured even if Germany won, it would be so denuded of manpower and resources that the new French and British rebuilt armies could go in and cut Germany down to size.

A weak Central Europe not controlled by any one power being THE national policy interest of France and Britain for 500 years. So much so that French Cardinals and Kings worked with Protestants several times just to keep the HRE from centralizing and gaining power.

Given the state of Europe today, under German domination, what Germany wants it gets, total bailout for Deutsche Bank and mass migration to ensure wealthy German landowners don't have to cut rents, to the point where Eastern Europeans are having their judges and laws and immigration policies dictated by the EU under threat of economic penalties.

Hitler's death was marked by almost half of Europe being turned Communist which it wasn't prior to WW2.

At the very least, Bavaria should be sliced off of Germany. Ideally, it should be 4-5 states.

And the Kaiser created the USSR by giving Lenin a boatload of money to keep the fires of revolutions stoked, so a Russian Diet wouldn't continue WW1.

Dissident says

someone else says

How about a national day where everyone is encouraged to say politically incorrect things?"
#politics

Celebrate it every day.

black people have black history month, white people have fathers day.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

black people have black history month, white people have fathers day.

"An extended family is a family that can't get shit off of you without a DNA test, and I'm too quick on my feet for that."

Tulsi actually said, "Biden is just a front man"? That is an incredible admission from a Democrat, if she actually said that.

HeadSet says

Tulsi actually said, "Biden is just a front man"? That is an incredible admission from a Democrat, if she actually said that.

I figured that Bidet was the front man when Bezos donated 100 million to Obama Foundation many months back.

The New Normal from REI:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10787403/Mexican-couple-Nazi-themed-wedding-anniversary-Adolf-Hitlers-wedding.htm?source=patrick.net

Mexican couple has a Nazi-themed wedding complete with SS uniforms, swastikas and a CHILD named after Reinhard Heydrich on the anniversary of Adolf Hitler's wedding

zzyzzx says

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10787403/Mexican-couple-Nazi-themed-wedding-anniversary-Adolf-Hitlers-wedding.htm?source=patrick.net

Mexican couple has a Nazi-themed wedding complete with SS uniforms, swastikas and a CHILD named after Reinhard Heydrich on the anniversary of Adolf Hitler's wedding

Vlad! Are you listening?

gabbar says

"I am Klaus Schwab and I approve this message by my protege Tulsi"

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

The New Normal from REI:

Yep, bear attack survival 101.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

The New Normal from REI:

Is that really from REI? I want to source it, because yeah, Bear Attack Survival 101 is hilarious, and I would like to be able to link it back to their dumb advertising campaign.

Tom Hanks kid:

Booger says

Tom Hanks kid:

I think he's starting to turn her on towards the end, like "You're such a toxic example of male masculinity, but why is my muff all aflutter?"

stereotomy says

I think he's starting to turn her on towards the end, like "You're such a toxic example of male masculinity, but why is my muff all aflutter?"

Well, she does flash her muff outside the gates of San Quentin, so it's not such a compliment after all. SJW shill by day for pay, predatory testosterone vampire by night.

stereotomy says

I think he's starting to turn her on towards the end, like "You're such a toxic example of male masculinity, but why is my muff all aflutter?"

I get the impression as well.

Most men still do not understand the concept of a shit test. The idea is that the woman is testing your status by how much shit you'll put up with. If a woman says "Hold my purse while I go flirt with that other man" then the right answer is to say nothing and leave. No anger, no argument, no compliance. Those are all failing answers.

This entire site should be required reading for every man: https://heartiste.org/2007/04/09/endless-dating/?source=patrick.net

richwicks says

But there was a holocaust but it's vastly over-exaggerated for modern propaganda purposes, but make no mistake, there was a holocaust but what people are taught about it today is a very warped version of it.

\Which is the unwarped version? Is there a source (book, video....)?

richwicks says

Is that really from REI? I want to source it, because yeah, Bear Attack Survival 101 is hilarious, and I would like to be able to link it back to their dumb advertising campaign.

https://www.rei.com/product/194396/rei-co-op-sahara-thermal-shirt-mens?source=patrick.net

gabbar says

richwicks says

But there was a holocaust but it's vastly over-exaggerated for modern propaganda purposes, but make no mistake, there was a holocaust but what people are taught about it today is a very warped version of it.

\Which is the unwarped version? Is there a source (book, video....)?

Ah, the good old Holohoax. It has been debunked to death for decades.

This video is a good place to start for anybody wishing to get a little red pilled on the subject.

original link
/

The Auschwitz gas chamber hoax debunked in 3 minutes? Outrageous!

original link
/

Let's hear from some of the survivors. (Geez, a lot of survivors from these "extermination" camps)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UT1eqQK2Vfd8/?source=patrick.net

@Booger

I say no.

You can't just post wholesale smears of Judaism and Jews anymore.

If you have a specific argument beyond just hate for Jews, OK, make the argument.

Kepi says

The Auschwitz gas chamber hoax debunked in 3 minutes? Outrageous!

original link
/

Let's hear from some of the survivors. (Geez, a lot of survivors from these "extermination" camps)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UT1eqQK2Vfd8/?source=patrick.net

Sooo, the fake "gas chamber"
was built in 1948? I.e. when Poland was firmly under Soviet RuSSia rule. Interesting. And consistent.

PS. He makes a good point wrt human remains being very hard to conceal. When you have mass atrocities - there are bodies and bodies tell the story (when and how these people were murdered). Case in point: Bucha and other Ukrainian cities and towns liberated from the RuSSians. And when you have no bodies, all you have is empty bullshit stories (case in point "Ukie Nazis mass killing poor Russian speakers in Dumbass, reeeeeee!"). How many? When? Where are the bodies? Crickets.

I am confused, shocked to realize for the first time in my life that what I know about Holocaust may not be true.

Kepi says

gabbar says

richwicks says

But there was a holocaust but it's vastly over-exaggerated for modern propaganda purposes, but make no mistake, there was a holocaust but what people are taught about it today is a very warped version of it.

\Which is the unwarped version? Is there a source (book, video....)?

Ah, the good old Holohoax. It has been debunked to death for decades.

This video is a good place to start for anybody wishing to get a little red pilled on the subject.

original link
/

I am stunned to hear this information.

gabbar says

I am confused, shocked to realize for the first time in my life that what I know about Holocaust may not be true.

@gabbar Be careful on both sides. There are people who simply hate Jews and will lie to make themselves feel better.