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mell
2022 Jun 6, 10:41pm
Patrick says
Oh I'm sure Francis is trying to "change" that. But even our old catholic church/parish in SF is not giving an inch to aborters and sodomites
mell says
the stance of the Catholic church is clear
I just heard about this today:
https://www.brighteon.com/d87c291d-ab32-4de2-841b-d2b75329ee5e
Pope Francis appoints pro-LGBT clergy to key Vatican posts
Oh I'm sure Francis is trying to "change" that. But even our old catholic church/parish in SF is not giving an inch to aborters and sodomites
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 6, 10:45pm
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 6, 10:45pm
Rin says
We could debate line by line, (did you deliberately skip the part about honoring father and mother because of an imperfect father?) but Jesus did talk to a wealthy man who responded just like you...
Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Do you think Jesus is impressed by keeping the commandments? No, I don’t think he is.
I Timothy 1:9Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 11According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God,
I would not describe your character as authentic, but rather as consistent and genuine. Those are good qualities. But I would expect that a real doll qualifies as a (modern) statue, just sayin. It is possible to be genuine and consistent and still need a savior.
Actually, I'm authentic. Righteousness has nothing to do with it.
So let's go over the 10Cs
We could debate line by line, (did you deliberately skip the part about honoring father and mother because of an imperfect father?) but Jesus did talk to a wealthy man who responded just like you...
Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Do you think Jesus is impressed by keeping the commandments? No, I don’t think he is.
I Timothy 1:9Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 11According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God,
I would not describe your character as authentic, but rather as consistent and genuine. Those are good qualities. But I would expect that a real doll qualifies as a (modern) statue, just sayin. It is possible to be genuine and consistent and still need a savior.
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GNL
2022 Jun 7, 4:20am
GNL
2022 Jun 7, 4:20am
Rin says
Coveting isn't only about $$.
You shall not covet.
I've already made some money. So no. I don't need to covet money.
Coveting isn't only about $$.
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Rin
2022 Jun 7, 8:02am
Rin
2022 Jun 7, 8:02am
PeopleUnited says
This is a topic for another thread but most people are channelers. And thus, nothing can save 'em. Immanuel Swedenborg was a conscious one, others do it unconsciously.
PeopleUnited says
If Joe Stalin was my dad, I'd most definitely dishonor him.
PeopleUnited says
Well, then it should be on prominent display in my living room but instead, it's housed in a closet, just like the vacuum cleaner. Otherwise, all our appliances are idols.
still need a savior.
This is a topic for another thread but most people are channelers. And thus, nothing can save 'em. Immanuel Swedenborg was a conscious one, others do it unconsciously.
PeopleUnited says
honoring father and mother because of an imperfect father?
If Joe Stalin was my dad, I'd most definitely dishonor him.
PeopleUnited says
real doll qualifies as a (modern) statue
Well, then it should be on prominent display in my living room but instead, it's housed in a closet, just like the vacuum cleaner. Otherwise, all our appliances are idols.
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 9, 9:57am
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 9, 9:57am
Rin says
I’m not much of a channeler, don’t waste my time on TV, but I do like movies. A good one I saw recently is God’s Not Dead.
Rin says
If Joe was my dad I’d probably be dead. He would not like what I had to say to him.
WineHorror1 says
A lot of people keep their idols in the closet. Garage, bank account, Marina, etc... there are many forms of idolatry.
still need a savior.
This is a topic for another thread but most people are channelers. And thus, nothing can save 'em. Immanuel Swedenborg was a conscious one, others do it unconsciously.
I’m not much of a channeler, don’t waste my time on TV, but I do like movies. A good one I saw recently is God’s Not Dead.
Rin says
If Joe Stalin was my dad, I'd most definitely dishonor him.
If Joe was my dad I’d probably be dead. He would not like what I had to say to him.
WineHorror1 says
real doll qualifies as a (modern) statue
Well, then it should be on prominent display in my living room but instead, it's housed in a closet, just like the vacuum cleaner. Otherwise, all our appliances are idols.
A lot of people keep their idols in the closet. Garage, bank account, Marina, etc... there are many forms of idolatry.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2022 Jun 9, 11:06am
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2022 Jun 9, 11:06am
Ironically Muslims showed a lot more backbone than Christians when it comes to protecting their faith.
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Rin
2022 Jun 9, 2:51pm
Rin
2022 Jun 9, 2:51pm
PeopleUnited says
Ok, so let's roll back the clock a few more centuries. Genghis Khan raped 1000s of women around the globe. If you were of those anointed first generation 1K descendants of the Great Khan, would you honor the world's greatest conqueror or treat him like some psychopathic scourge on the planet?
FYI, many of us today are his nth level descendants.
PeopleUnited says
That's a misdirection & you know it because the term idolatry is about worship, not maintaining one's appliances. If so, then Jack Nicklaus worships his golf clubs. The bricklayer worships cement. The bread maker worships his baking flour or yeast. No, they maintain their tools for their lives' work. I boink and thus, maintain a tool for that purpose. I do not worship, nor did I pick (nor customize) a model which looked like my ex-GF from a decade ago.
I explained the above to American Kukak (or one of his other monikers) to make that piece clear.
Rin says
If Joe Stalin was my dad, I'd most definitely dishonor him.
If Joe was my dad I’d probably be dead. He would not like what I had to say to him.
Ok, so let's roll back the clock a few more centuries. Genghis Khan raped 1000s of women around the globe. If you were of those anointed first generation 1K descendants of the Great Khan, would you honor the world's greatest conqueror or treat him like some psychopathic scourge on the planet?
FYI, many of us today are his nth level descendants.
PeopleUnited says
Well, then it should be on prominent display in my living room but instead, it's housed in a closet, just like the vacuum cleaner. Otherwise, all our appliances are idols.
A lot of people keep their idols in the closet. Garage, bank account, Marina, etc... there are many forms of idolatry.
That's a misdirection & you know it because the term idolatry is about worship, not maintaining one's appliances. If so, then Jack Nicklaus worships his golf clubs. The bricklayer worships cement. The bread maker worships his baking flour or yeast. No, they maintain their tools for their lives' work. I boink and thus, maintain a tool for that purpose. I do not worship, nor did I pick (nor customize) a model which looked like my ex-GF from a decade ago.
I explained the above to American Kukak (or one of his other monikers) to make that piece clear.
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 9, 9:04pm
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 9, 9:04pm
Rin says
Your point is well taken, the command to honor your parents does not imply that a child is bound to serve a parent who is a servant of the devil. But even a parent who is severely flawed yet despite their flaws honors their obligation to their children, is worthy of honor. That just means to be thankful follow their lead as they follow God, and provide for their needs as you are able in their old age.
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Actually it is more broad than worship. Colossians expounded upon the concept of idolatry.
Colossians 3:5
Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry.
Genghis Khan raped 1000s of women
Your point is well taken, the command to honor your parents does not imply that a child is bound to serve a parent who is a servant of the devil. But even a parent who is severely flawed yet despite their flaws honors their obligation to their children, is worthy of honor. That just means to be thankful follow their lead as they follow God, and provide for their needs as you are able in their old age.
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
idolatry is about worship
Actually it is more broad than worship. Colossians expounded upon the concept of idolatry.
Colossians 3:5
Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry.
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Rin
2022 Jun 9, 9:38pm
Rin
2022 Jun 9, 9:38pm
PeopleUnited says
And then we have this quote ...
1 Corinthians 10:20-22 ... "Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy?"
So the creator of universe, whose life force exists in all living beings & thus, no one's thoughts, emotions, etc, can even persist without him, falls into a state of jealousy, a base human emotion (& a loser one for that).
That's not the sign of the greatest force of the universe but some inter-dimensional entity which is not distinguishable to any angelic or demonic entity out there.
Which brings back the original question ... are Jack Nicklaus's golf clubs an idol? Should he even play golf, since it's based upon human passion ... one your Colossians 3:5 deadly sins?
Should Jack Nicklaus simply be a street cleaner for his hometown until his death, even though he's capable of playing golf? And what's being a street cleaner other than a servant for his local town hall? Is that really what the (non-denominational: universal force) or God wants for him?
Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry.
And then we have this quote ...
1 Corinthians 10:20-22 ... "Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy?"
So the creator of universe, whose life force exists in all living beings & thus, no one's thoughts, emotions, etc, can even persist without him, falls into a state of jealousy, a base human emotion (& a loser one for that).
That's not the sign of the greatest force of the universe but some inter-dimensional entity which is not distinguishable to any angelic or demonic entity out there.
Which brings back the original question ... are Jack Nicklaus's golf clubs an idol? Should he even play golf, since it's based upon human passion ... one your Colossians 3:5 deadly sins?
Should Jack Nicklaus simply be a street cleaner for his hometown until his death, even though he's capable of playing golf? And what's being a street cleaner other than a servant for his local town hall? Is that really what the (non-denominational: universal force) or God wants for him?
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 10, 8:01am
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 10, 8:01am
Rin says
God’s will for every person is that they be converted from a sinner under the curse of sin and death and change into a new creature in Christ.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Context
“14For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. 16Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.”
So unless the Golden Bear has been converted, everything that stands between him and God is an idol. Once he is converted God will let Jack know if he should continue playing golf or make a change.
Is that really what God wants for him?
God’s will for every person is that they be converted from a sinner under the curse of sin and death and change into a new creature in Christ.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Context
“14For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. 16Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.”
So unless the Golden Bear has been converted, everything that stands between him and God is an idol. Once he is converted God will let Jack know if he should continue playing golf or make a change.
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Rin
2022 Jun 10, 2:43pm
Rin
2022 Jun 10, 2:43pm
PeopleUnited says
Sounds more like entity possession to me.
Nothing can exist w/o God (or the Supreme Being or Universal 'whatever' for the lack of a better set of terms).
And thus, if the Golden Bear was to play golf, then that was his destiny regardless of whether or not he joined your denomination. And would he continue to play golf afterwards, heck, it's a job so why not? And if that's his true talent (which most would suspect) then why instead, be a street cleaner or run the charity fund for some denomination when his own charity work makes much more money for the needy w/o them needing to convert to a particular church? And at the same time, it coaches others on how to play golf as a benefit as well.
Swedenborg also believed that he was converted but yet, he was little more than an old school channeler, letting entities tell him what to believe in. A whole church grew out of his delusions.
So unless the Golden Bear has been converted, everything that stands between him and God is an idol. Once he is converted God will let Jack know if he should continue playing golf or make a change.
Sounds more like entity possession to me.
Nothing can exist w/o God (or the Supreme Being or Universal 'whatever' for the lack of a better set of terms).
And thus, if the Golden Bear was to play golf, then that was his destiny regardless of whether or not he joined your denomination. And would he continue to play golf afterwards, heck, it's a job so why not? And if that's his true talent (which most would suspect) then why instead, be a street cleaner or run the charity fund for some denomination when his own charity work makes much more money for the needy w/o them needing to convert to a particular church? And at the same time, it coaches others on how to play golf as a benefit as well.
Swedenborg also believed that he was converted but yet, he was little more than an old school channeler, letting entities tell him what to believe in. A whole church grew out of his delusions.
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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden
2022 Jun 10, 8:39pm
these are “conservative” parents of a trans in CA.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6307583800112#sp=show-clips
where is all this insane shit coming from? its like a fucking fad came in last two years to suddenly trans all the kids. there got to be a source of all this.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6307583800112#sp=show-clips
where is all this insane shit coming from? its like a fucking fad came in last two years to suddenly trans all the kids. there got to be a source of all this.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Jun 10, 9:10pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Jun 10, 9:10pm
FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says
It’s fucking nuts. My SIL attended a parents meeting for my nephews private Westside school. She had to have my brother come pick her up early. She said she was about to lose her shit and lash out because so many of the parents were taking about how proud they were that their kids were displaying attributes of gender fluidity. Literally wearing it as a badge of pride.
Then a few days later Dennis Prager spoke about parents on the Westside having it as a regular topic of conversation.
It’s a fad amongst very very stupid leftist parents. I have zero doubt at this point that transgenderism is almost entirely driven by emotion.
My dad has a IQ over 150. There was never a possibility that my brother and I were not going to college. Both of us had an easy upbringing and neither physically imposing. Yet we grew up fishing, hunting, hiking, camping, and learning to work on cars. I’m a good man and good husband because of it and so is my brother. My brother, despite having a rich man’s income and lifestyle is introducing both his boys to the same.
God help the kids being raised by the incredibly stupid.
these are “conservative” parents of a trans in CA.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6307583800112#sp=show-clips
where is all this insane shit coming from? its like a fucking fad came in last two years to suddenly trans all the kids. there got to be a source of all this.
It’s fucking nuts. My SIL attended a parents meeting for my nephews private Westside school. She had to have my brother come pick her up early. She said she was about to lose her shit and lash out because so many of the parents were taking about how proud they were that their kids were displaying attributes of gender fluidity. Literally wearing it as a badge of pride.
Then a few days later Dennis Prager spoke about parents on the Westside having it as a regular topic of conversation.
It’s a fad amongst very very stupid leftist parents. I have zero doubt at this point that transgenderism is almost entirely driven by emotion.
My dad has a IQ over 150. There was never a possibility that my brother and I were not going to college. Both of us had an easy upbringing and neither physically imposing. Yet we grew up fishing, hunting, hiking, camping, and learning to work on cars. I’m a good man and good husband because of it and so is my brother. My brother, despite having a rich man’s income and lifestyle is introducing both his boys to the same.
God help the kids being raised by the incredibly stupid.
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 11, 12:17am
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 11, 12:17am
Rin says
It sounds like that to you because you are a natural man.
1 Corinthians 2:14 Context
“11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.”Rin says
I agree, that it was his destiny to play golf. But it is also his destiny to either become a new creature in Christ or remain cursed with sin and death. My denomination has nothing to do with it. Salvation is not exclusive to any church or religious system, salvation is a gift of God given freely to all who will receive it. Romans 6:23 reads, "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Sounds more like entity possession to me.
It sounds like that to you because you are a natural man.
1 Corinthians 2:14 Context
“11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.”Rin says
And thus, if the Golden Bear was to play golf, then that was his destiny regardless of whether or not he joined your denomination.
I agree, that it was his destiny to play golf. But it is also his destiny to either become a new creature in Christ or remain cursed with sin and death. My denomination has nothing to do with it. Salvation is not exclusive to any church or religious system, salvation is a gift of God given freely to all who will receive it. Romans 6:23 reads, "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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AmericanKulak
2022 Jun 11, 2:21am
AmericanKulak
2022 Jun 11, 2:21am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
It's like a leftwing Penis Panic or Tulip Madness.
It’s a fad amongst very very stupid leftist parents. I have zero doubt at this point that transgenderism is almost entirely driven by emotion.
It's like a leftwing Penis Panic or Tulip Madness.
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GNL
2022 Jun 11, 5:00am
GNL
2022 Jun 11, 5:00am
FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says
SATAN
these are “conservative” parents of a trans in CA.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6307583800112#sp=show-clips
where is all this insane shit coming from? its like a fucking fad came in last two years to suddenly trans all the kids. there got to be a source of all this.
SATAN
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Jun 11, 8:23am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Jun 11, 8:23am
I watched again. I don’t believe it’s a real story. Not sure what elements are false yet, but there something very off.
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Rin
2022 Jun 11, 9:09am
Rin
2022 Jun 11, 9:09am
PeopleUnited says
I'm far more than some 'natural' man. I've encountered the spirit entities and know a lot about them. Unlike Swedenborg, I've rejected 'em but see that many of you, being unconscious spirits, know nothing of them. I have a term for ppl like you ... the inferior souls. The ones who know nothing about 'the Universe' and depend upon verses, texts, some sayings from church fathers, etc, to push you ahead.
I was chosen to do the work for humanity, first by ending feminism (Rin Wah Law) and second, to eliminate the fraud that's Fauci's modern medicine. Yes, him & his clubhouse are 21st century Pharisees.
you are a natural man.
I'm far more than some 'natural' man. I've encountered the spirit entities and know a lot about them. Unlike Swedenborg, I've rejected 'em but see that many of you, being unconscious spirits, know nothing of them. I have a term for ppl like you ... the inferior souls. The ones who know nothing about 'the Universe' and depend upon verses, texts, some sayings from church fathers, etc, to push you ahead.
I was chosen to do the work for humanity, first by ending feminism (Rin Wah Law) and second, to eliminate the fraud that's Fauci's modern medicine. Yes, him & his clubhouse are 21st century Pharisees.
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 11, 10:02am
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 11, 10:02am
Rin says
God is a spirit. But you are correct, there are many other spirits. These entities were created by Him. They have free will, and are able to reject God just like us inferior souls. These entities are able to influence and interact with humans and animals. An interesting but somewhat forgotten history is that of the Nephalim. They were able to interact with the physical world and even create offspring with humans.
A natural man is just someone who does not have the Spirit of God. Have you encountered His Spirit? If you have heard his call I encourage you to answer it. You have contributed much as you have said, but if you die without Christ it will all be unprofitable.God said his Spirit will not always strive with man, there will come a day for every natural man when it is too late to heed the call. The good news is the natural man can become a new creature in Christ, just by accepting the gift of repentance and faith.
I've encountered the spirit entities and know a lot about them.
God is a spirit. But you are correct, there are many other spirits. These entities were created by Him. They have free will, and are able to reject God just like us inferior souls. These entities are able to influence and interact with humans and animals. An interesting but somewhat forgotten history is that of the Nephalim. They were able to interact with the physical world and even create offspring with humans.
A natural man is just someone who does not have the Spirit of God. Have you encountered His Spirit? If you have heard his call I encourage you to answer it. You have contributed much as you have said, but if you die without Christ it will all be unprofitable.God said his Spirit will not always strive with man, there will come a day for every natural man when it is too late to heed the call. The good news is the natural man can become a new creature in Christ, just by accepting the gift of repentance and faith.
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Rin
2022 Jun 11, 10:53am
Rin
2022 Jun 11, 10:53am
PeopleUnited says
Not at all, something far greater than some transmedium force, the creator of all consciousness. Anything less than that is just another entity.
PeopleUnited says
I've died and come back, many many times. This isn't the first and won't the last. I've also been at the monastery with St Francis of Assisi, many centuries ago. I still vaguely recall him.
I think that you're just another theologian, like many I've encountered over the years. Do you honestly think that I fear the end? People like you, when these days are over, will enter the tunnel of light, get your third eye/head center burnt out, forget everything, and then, another group of entities will take control of your destiny. This is the scenario which plays out for most.
As far as I'm concerned, this religious/spiritual conversation was over before it even began. And I'm talking about prior to 2012, before I joined PatNet. This is how destiny works.
God is a spirit.
Not at all, something far greater than some transmedium force, the creator of all consciousness. Anything less than that is just another entity.
PeopleUnited says
there will come a day for every natural man when it is too late to heed the call.
I've died and come back, many many times. This isn't the first and won't the last. I've also been at the monastery with St Francis of Assisi, many centuries ago. I still vaguely recall him.
I think that you're just another theologian, like many I've encountered over the years. Do you honestly think that I fear the end? People like you, when these days are over, will enter the tunnel of light, get your third eye/head center burnt out, forget everything, and then, another group of entities will take control of your destiny. This is the scenario which plays out for most.
As far as I'm concerned, this religious/spiritual conversation was over before it even began. And I'm talking about prior to 2012, before I joined PatNet. This is how destiny works.
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 11, 9:51pm
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 11, 9:51pm
Rin says
Yes, God is a spirit, but you said well, He is not just a spirit, but the creator of all. God has three parts, the Father/Creator/eternal soul, the Son/Redeemer in the flesh, the Spirit. So yes, He is a Spirit, and much more as you said.
Incidentally He created man in His own image, everyone has an eternal soul, a body, and while every person born into this world is spiritually dead, every person can be reborn in the Spirit by faith in Jesus.
Gospel of John, chapter 3. Jesus says to Nicodemus in verse 5, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."
Everyone born into this world is carried in a sac of water. But it is the second birth, born again of the Spirit that makes a person truly alive.
Ephesians 2:1 Context
1And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,“
Rin says
No, you have not.
Hebrews 9:27 Context
24For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: 25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”
Rin says
I don’t know what you are afraid of. But I do know that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.
Rin says
I’m not just another anything. I’m a sinner, saved by grace through faith in the Lord Christ Jesus who being blameless was the only person who could pay my sin debt for me. And though I am a sinner, my Savior loved me anyway and willingly laid down His life for me. Which brings us back to where we started. Jesus ate with sinners, and that is because he loves them.
Not at all, something far greater than some transmedium force, the creator of all consciousness
Yes, God is a spirit, but you said well, He is not just a spirit, but the creator of all. God has three parts, the Father/Creator/eternal soul, the Son/Redeemer in the flesh, the Spirit. So yes, He is a Spirit, and much more as you said.
Incidentally He created man in His own image, everyone has an eternal soul, a body, and while every person born into this world is spiritually dead, every person can be reborn in the Spirit by faith in Jesus.
Gospel of John, chapter 3. Jesus says to Nicodemus in verse 5, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."
Everyone born into this world is carried in a sac of water. But it is the second birth, born again of the Spirit that makes a person truly alive.
Ephesians 2:1 Context
1And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,“
Rin says
I've died and come back, many many times.
No, you have not.
Hebrews 9:27 Context
24For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: 25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”
Rin says
Do you honestly think that I fear the end?
I don’t know what you are afraid of. But I do know that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.
Rin says
I think that you're just another theologian,
I’m not just another anything. I’m a sinner, saved by grace through faith in the Lord Christ Jesus who being blameless was the only person who could pay my sin debt for me. And though I am a sinner, my Savior loved me anyway and willingly laid down His life for me. Which brings us back to where we started. Jesus ate with sinners, and that is because he loves them.
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AmericanKulak
2022 Jun 12, 1:02am
AmericanKulak
2022 Jun 12, 1:02am
FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says
F2M is exceedingly, blindingly rare.
Remember those "Vague Sicknesses" that spread through schools periodically? This is it, but on a wider scale.
where is all this insane shit coming from? its like a fucking fad came in last two years to suddenly trans all the kids. there got to be a source of all this.
F2M is exceedingly, blindingly rare.
Remember those "Vague Sicknesses" that spread through schools periodically? This is it, but on a wider scale.
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Onvacation
2022 Jun 12, 8:02am
Onvacation
2022 Jun 12, 8:02am
AmericanKulak says
It's a lot easier to cut off a dick than sew one on.
F2M is exceedingly, blindingly rare
It's a lot easier to cut off a dick than sew one on.
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Hircus
2022 Jun 12, 9:26am
Hircus
2022 Jun 12, 9:26am
Lately I keep seeing more and more leftist ideologicals in church positions, like this one:
The pronouns, "resisting christian nationalism", and BLM support bother me. And he's "super pumped" his town had a pride event, and is supporting the "native americans should be angry" propaganda by declaring he lives on Quinnipiac land. He looks young, so maybe that explains why he appears brainwashed with leftism, but still.
Does anyone else think we might be upon the cusp of some wave of change in the church? I fear many closet gays have congregated in churches, either specifically attracted to the church as gays, or they were molested as children by a church member, and it made them gay, or maybe the whole celibacy thing made some turn to the secrecy afforded by forbidden encounters with men. Whatever. But what happens if there's some wave of this currently silent but likely large group, where they start publicly supporting many leftist ideas because they personally identify with them on behalf of their gayness? It could be quite the infiltration, and very demoralizing.
The pronouns, "resisting christian nationalism", and BLM support bother me. And he's "super pumped" his town had a pride event, and is supporting the "native americans should be angry" propaganda by declaring he lives on Quinnipiac land. He looks young, so maybe that explains why he appears brainwashed with leftism, but still.
Does anyone else think we might be upon the cusp of some wave of change in the church? I fear many closet gays have congregated in churches, either specifically attracted to the church as gays, or they were molested as children by a church member, and it made them gay, or maybe the whole celibacy thing made some turn to the secrecy afforded by forbidden encounters with men. Whatever. But what happens if there's some wave of this currently silent but likely large group, where they start publicly supporting many leftist ideas because they personally identify with them on behalf of their gayness? It could be quite the infiltration, and very demoralizing.
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Rin
2022 Jun 12, 10:24am
Rin
2022 Jun 12, 10:24am
PeopleUnited says
Ok, you've just called me a liar. That's the same as accepting the challenge.
All you have are quotes from other men, not the real goods.
Let's not have this conversation online, ever again.
Rin says
I've died and come back, many many times.
No, you have not.
Ok, you've just called me a liar. That's the same as accepting the challenge.
All you have are quotes from other men, not the real goods.
Let's not have this conversation online, ever again.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Jun 12, 11:40am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Jun 12, 11:40am
Hircus says
The guys whole persona is just insane. I get that some issues are complicated, but discussing anything with this guy would be next to impossible because everything is cloaked in a massive word salad.
I don’t understand what he is even supporting or against. I don’t know what white nationalism or Christian nationalism are. I don’t know what blm supports. They won’t define a damn thing. They are all openly dishonest.
Lately I keep seeing more and more leftist ideologicals in church positions, like this one:
The pronouns, "resisting christian nationalism", and BLM support bother me. And he's "super pumped" his town had a pride event, and is supporting the "native americans should be angry" propaganda by declaring he lives on Quinnipiac land. He looks young, so maybe that explains why he appears brainwashed with leftism, but still.
Does anyone else think we might be upon the cusp of some wave of change in the church? I fear many closet gays have congregated in churches, either specifically attracted to the church as gays, or they were molested as children by a church member, and it made them gay, or maybe the whole celibacy thing made some turn to the secrecy afforded by forbidden encounters with men. Whatever. But what happens if there's some wave of this currently silent but like...
The guys whole persona is just insane. I get that some issues are complicated, but discussing anything with this guy would be next to impossible because everything is cloaked in a massive word salad.
I don’t understand what he is even supporting or against. I don’t know what white nationalism or Christian nationalism are. I don’t know what blm supports. They won’t define a damn thing. They are all openly dishonest.
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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden
2022 Jun 12, 12:15pm
Hircus says
very faggy priest. could be fake, twitter is fake and gay.
Lately I keep seeing more and more leftist ideologicals in church positions, like this one:
The pronouns, "resisting christian nationalism", and BLM support bother me. And he's "super pumped" his town had a pride event, and is supporting the "native americans should be angry" propaganda by declaring he lives on Quinnipiac land. He looks young, so maybe that explains why he appears brainwashed with leftism, but still.
Does anyone else think we might be upon the cusp of some wave of change in the church? I fear many closet gays have congregated in churches, either specifically attracted to the church as gays, or they were molested as children by a church member, and it made them gay, or maybe the whole celibacy thing made some turn to the secrecy afforded by forbidden encounters with men. Whatever. But what happens if there's some wave of this currently silent but like...
very faggy priest. could be fake, twitter is fake and gay.
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 12, 1:30pm
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 12, 1:30pm
Rin says
First of all don’t put words in my mouth. No one is calling you anything other than a man.
You are a man right?
And second of all if you are a man, why should your word be any more reliable than another man or men who have gone before us?
And third, saying what you believe to be true even if false does not make a person a liar. Many people believe and tell about things they believe happened that never really happened. That does not make them liars. It makes them human.
PeopleUnited says
Rin says
I've died and come back, many many times.
No, you have not.
Ok, you've just called me a liar. That's the same as accepting the challenge.
All you have are quotes from other men, not the real goods.
First of all don’t put words in my mouth. No one is calling you anything other than a man.
You are a man right?
And second of all if you are a man, why should your word be any more reliable than another man or men who have gone before us?
And third, saying what you believe to be true even if false does not make a person a liar. Many people believe and tell about things they believe happened that never really happened. That does not make them liars. It makes them human.
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Rin
2022 Jun 12, 2:33pm
Rin
2022 Jun 12, 2:33pm
PeopleUnited says
Let me make an alteration to the above statement ...
"saying what PeopleUnited believes to be true even if false"
Do you see how the game works? You're attempting to gaslight me & then, I respond to it. This conversation on this forum is over. The fight will go on on the inner plane.
If you're correct then your so-called spirit entities will defeat me, otherwise, it'll inverse itself upon you.
saying what you believe to be true even if false
Let me make an alteration to the above statement ...
"saying what PeopleUnited believes to be true even if false"
Do you see how the game works? You're attempting to gaslight me & then, I respond to it. This conversation on this forum is over. The fight will go on on the inner plane.
If you're correct then your so-called spirit entities will defeat me, otherwise, it'll inverse itself upon you.
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richwicks
2022 Jun 12, 4:19pm
richwicks
2022 Jun 12, 4:19pm
PeopleUnited says
@PeopleUnited - I should introduce you to a very religious Muslim acquaintance I just recently met. I genuinely wonder if you could both just talk, and not argue. My impression is that he despises the left but he also has great dislike of other Islamic variations.
Hmm, I just realized I don't know what version of Islam he adheres to.
He was in jail for 3 years he tells me. He's a young man, 25. Egyptian living in Turkey. I wonder if you can find your commonalities rather than your differences?
Rin says
Is that really what God wants for him?
God’s will for every person is that they be converted from a sinner under the curse of sin and death and change into a new creature in Christ.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Context
“14For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. 16Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;...
@PeopleUnited - I should introduce you to a very religious Muslim acquaintance I just recently met. I genuinely wonder if you could both just talk, and not argue. My impression is that he despises the left but he also has great dislike of other Islamic variations.
Hmm, I just realized I don't know what version of Islam he adheres to.
He was in jail for 3 years he tells me. He's a young man, 25. Egyptian living in Turkey. I wonder if you can find your commonalities rather than your differences?
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 12, 7:13pm
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 12, 7:13pm
Rin says
Yeah, I guess I am gaslighting you. Because when a person has a false sense of reality they need a reality check. I have “memories” of previous lives too. However I know they are not things that actually happened to me, maybe it is echos of ancestral experiences, or maybe they are just lucid dreams. I also have deja vu from time to time, I am certain I have been in a particular experience before. But again I know it is not real.
What I am not doing is I am not fighting with you. It is simply a discussion. Perhaps God is striving with your soul as you implied. If so, may He bless you and keep you, may His face shine upon you and be merciful and gracious unto you, May He lift up His countenance upon you and give you His peace.
He is coming again soon!
King James Bible
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
(The bride in this passage is all Christians)
PeopleUnited says
saying what you believe to be true even if false
Let me make an alteration to the above statement ...
"saying what PeopleUnited believes to be true even if false"
Do you see how the game works? You're attempting to gaslight me & then, I respond to it. This conversation on this forum is over. The fight will go on on the inner plane.
If you're correct then your so-called spirit entities will defeat me, otherwise, it'll inverse itself upon you.
Yeah, I guess I am gaslighting you. Because when a person has a false sense of reality they need a reality check. I have “memories” of previous lives too. However I know they are not things that actually happened to me, maybe it is echos of ancestral experiences, or maybe they are just lucid dreams. I also have deja vu from time to time, I am certain I have been in a particular experience before. But again I know it is not real.
What I am not doing is I am not fighting with you. It is simply a discussion. Perhaps God is striving with your soul as you implied. If so, may He bless you and keep you, may His face shine upon you and be merciful and gracious unto you, May He lift up His countenance upon you and give you His peace.
He is coming again soon!
King James Bible
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
(The bride in this passage is all Christians)
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 12, 7:19pm
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 12, 7:19pm
Irichwicks says
I am not much for religion. Religion will fail a person, but Jesus never will.
You can send your friend this https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0029
If he wants to talk to someone after that...
- I should introduce you to a very religious Muslim acquaintance I just recently met.
I am not much for religion. Religion will fail a person, but Jesus never will.
You can send your friend this https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0029
If he wants to talk to someone after that...
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Rin
2022 Jun 12, 8:49pm
Rin
2022 Jun 12, 8:49pm
PeopleUnited says
Don't insult my intelligence by presuming you know the mind of God.
PeopleUnited says
What utter unconscious gaslighting nonsense. What do you know about reality?
You talk about your verses as if those are verifiable by science (not Fauci science, but more like Galileo or Newton). If anything, the fact that I've been involved in exorcising spirits from ppl and have met others like you, attached to spirit entities, makes my reality more real than your diatribes. And you talk about 'reality'?
If you want to persist in this, then I'll start launching psychic assaults against you with the caveat of wrecking your vision of reality & the fact that once you've gaslighted me, you've given me the karmic right to launch a counterattack.
Understand, I don't believe in forgiveness. That's between you and Jesus.
richwicks says
PeopleUnited says
Rickwick, he's only looking for the differences and then, pushing that guy to submit to reconciliation via Christianity instead of giving him a choice which could include other faiths, aside from Islam (which we know is terroristic & a part of Arabic colonialism).
This person is little more than a typical fanatic. He has no 'Reality based' proof of anything he says and then, backs up that proof by quoting scripture. Any Tom, Dick, & Harry televangelist can do that.
. Perhaps God is striving with your soul as you implied. If so, may He bless you and keep you, may His face shine upon you and be merciful and gracious unto you, May He lift up His countenance upon you and give you His peace.
Don't insult my intelligence by presuming you know the mind of God.
PeopleUnited says
Because when a person has a false sense of reality they need a reality check.
What utter unconscious gaslighting nonsense. What do you know about reality?
You talk about your verses as if those are verifiable by science (not Fauci science, but more like Galileo or Newton). If anything, the fact that I've been involved in exorcising spirits from ppl and have met others like you, attached to spirit entities, makes my reality more real than your diatribes. And you talk about 'reality'?
If you want to persist in this, then I'll start launching psychic assaults against you with the caveat of wrecking your vision of reality & the fact that once you've gaslighted me, you've given me the karmic right to launch a counterattack.
Understand, I don't believe in forgiveness. That's between you and Jesus.
richwicks says
Egyptian living in Turkey. I wonder if you can find your commonalities rather than your differences?
PeopleUnited says
I am not much for religion. Religion will fail a person, but Jesus never will.
Rickwick, he's only looking for the differences and then, pushing that guy to submit to reconciliation via Christianity instead of giving him a choice which could include other faiths, aside from Islam (which we know is terroristic & a part of Arabic colonialism).
This person is little more than a typical fanatic. He has no 'Reality based' proof of anything he says and then, backs up that proof by quoting scripture. Any Tom, Dick, & Harry televangelist can do that.
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PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 12, 9:57pm
PeopleUnited
2022 Jun 12, 9:57pm
Rin says
No insult intended or implied. Simply acknowledging your own words,Rin says
When God was striving with Paul (then Saul of Tarsus who was killing Christians thinking it was a service to God) there was pain involved in coming to an understanding of the truth.
Rin says
What other option is there for someone who has screwed up?Rin says
But we can believe you about multiple lives, exorcism and psychic assaults?
Remember gaslighting is only a bad thing if the person doesn’t have a warped view of reality. And besides that using the term “gaslighting” is really just a way to demonize telling the truth to someone who believes a falsehood. Essentially you claimed I called you a liar, ( I did not) and then you responded by calling me a gas lighter which is certainly a disparaging remark. Am I therefore your enemy because I tell you the truth?
I truly believe that if you die without Christ you will regret it for eternity. The greatest gift you can therefore receive is forgiveness. And I would not wish you ill in any wise. That is why I took the time to share my faith with you.
Don't insult my intelligence
No insult intended or implied. Simply acknowledging your own words,Rin says
The fight will go on on the inner plane.
When God was striving with Paul (then Saul of Tarsus who was killing Christians thinking it was a service to God) there was pain involved in coming to an understanding of the truth.
Rin says
Understand, I don't believe in forgiveness
What other option is there for someone who has screwed up?Rin says
This person is little more than a typical fanatic. He has no 'Reality based' proof of anything he says
But we can believe you about multiple lives, exorcism and psychic assaults?
Remember gaslighting is only a bad thing if the person doesn’t have a warped view of reality. And besides that using the term “gaslighting” is really just a way to demonize telling the truth to someone who believes a falsehood. Essentially you claimed I called you a liar, ( I did not) and then you responded by calling me a gas lighter which is certainly a disparaging remark. Am I therefore your enemy because I tell you the truth?
I truly believe that if you die without Christ you will regret it for eternity. The greatest gift you can therefore receive is forgiveness. And I would not wish you ill in any wise. That is why I took the time to share my faith with you.
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Just feels like our culture on it's last leg. Kids are being trannied and gayed in schools. Half the fucking America, at least half, is all into gaying the kids in the name of inclusivity. They are nuts, they are hurting the kids. And now even some churches starting to accept gay. If I remember history, that's the sign of the end.