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B.A.C.A.H. says

Universal conscription would be a cohesive national force, like it is for Taiwan, Israel, South Korea.

We miss an opportunity by not having it here.

IIRC, per census data about 4-5 million people reach age of 18 every year in the US. If we conscript everybody reaching 18 y.o. for 2 years we'll have 8-10 million conscripted privates. Add to this the necessary professional army personnel for officer and highly specialized positions and we're looking at a standing army 10-12 million strong. What the fuck are we supposed to do with the army this huge? Dig trenches and fill them up all day every day?

ZipperTits says

This is the real threat against us and Putin knows it

Except it doesn't work. He has been trying to paralize the West into inaction for half a year already and all he's getting is the opposite results: more sanctions, more weapons delivered, more Ruscist ass kicked, etc.

ZipperTits says

None of that bullshit addresses what I said.

Of course it does. You argue the threat is "real". But the fact on the ground show the opposite: he flashed the nuke card several times and still didn't get what he wants. The rest is speculation and news from the future.

Look at the fighting spirit on these guys!

https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1573230158563233794

Is the only guy in uniform who has his clock cleaned a supervising officer?

Yep, these mighty T-62s are coming out of their 50 years slumber:

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1573239697144520713

ROGFY: https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1573333122304835584

Putler's spokewhore a.k.a. Peskov admitted that the population's reaction to the mobilization is "hysterical and emotional".

Who said they are getting Mosins? Eat a crow!

https://mobile.twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1573650479799799809

https://mobile.twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1573651821104619521

Eric Holder says

IIRC, per census data about 4-5 million people reach age of 18 every year in the US. If we conscript everybody reaching 18 y.o. for 2 years we'll have 8-10 million conscripted privates. Add to this the necessary professional army personnel for officer and highly specialized positions and we're looking at a standing army 10-12 million strong. What the fuck are we supposed to do with the army this huge? Dig trenches and fill them up all day every day?

1/3rd of them couldn't run a mile in under 10min. That would be the bigger problem. Then 1/3rd would be too scared that if there was an actual conflict, they'd die. So they'd bail. I think our military is structured well. Moral is huge in war. If half the people (dudes usually) don't want to be there, you're fucked. I think that's what Russia is facing right now hence the nuke threat.

If I genuinely felt our country was attacked, I'd pick up a weapon and fight it two seconds at almost 40. Draft or not. I don't think Russians are that way. We'll obviously see, but 300K should easily outmatch Ukraine IF they are into it, even with the west pumping weapons in to a bunch of drunks. I don't think Russians are up for it. We'll see. Nukes are the X factor obviously.

cisTits says

RWSGFY says

Yep, these mighty T-62s are coming out of their 50 years slumber:

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1573239697144520713

And the Imaginary Ukranian tanks that go against them will still not fair well.

Russia will not deploy them against other tanks. They will deploy them against tank-less units like infantry and artillery.

Who said anything about tanks? T-62 is defeated even by RPG-7, no need for fancy Javelins. And RPG-7s are more plentiful than dirt.

https://twitter.com/Pieceofloaf/status/1574135724470829056

It was bad enough that Putin was using some jihadis from Syria and Chechnya to kill Christian and Jewish "Nazis" in Ukraine.

Now the head of the Russian Orthodox church is trying to get in on the action to churn out some "martyrs" for the glorious cause.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-09-26/orthodox-church-leader-says-russian-soldiers-dying-in-ukraine-will-be-cleansed-of-sin

This is all part of the plan....

For some reason Russian men think that the road to mobilization goes through Georgia: https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1574422450602909696

Eric Holder says

Who the fuck are they drafting? Pensioners?

They did call up a 62-63 year old guy, so maybe. I imagine that it would go something like this:

Not to be a dick, but half of them are female, then you've got the ones on antidepressants, 30% of all 18-25 yo females are obese with another 30% overweight...

zzyzzx says

Eric Holder says

Who the fuck are they drafting? Pensioners?

They did call up a 62-63 year old guy, so maybe. I imagine that it would go something like this:

Except the machinegun would be a rusted through piece of garbage.

"Whoever has served in the army doesn’t laugh at the circus." -- Russian proverb

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1574906007414767619

A Russian medic tells newly mobilized recruits they need to buy their own sleeping bags because the army won’t provide it. She also says they are out of tourniquets so they should bring their girlfriend's tampons to help seal bullet wounds.

https://twitter.com/epi_ona/status/1574697478695305223?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1574697478695305223%7Ctwgr%5E1b8afbbef1faaa61f0ec80f8d647c28434552b69%7Ctwcon%5Es1&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotair.com%2Fjohn-s-2%2F2022%2F09%2F27%2Frussian-propagandist-the-fatherland-is-in-danger-a-war-has-been-declared-against-us-n499443

Volkssturm:







Didn't Shoygu brag recently that they have 25 million mobilisation reserve to tap? Why these grandpas are being called up? They are old, sure, but not old enough to have experience with T-62 tanks.

Globalists have found a new use for QR codes they perfected during the scandemic:

Moscow will introduce control over those liable for military service using QR codes. Information about this was sent to state-owned companies, according to telegram channels citing a source from a subsidiary of Sberbank.

(g-translated from https://el-murid.livejournal.com/5234208.html)

Putin's Ukraine Mobilisation Incharge Roman Malyk Found Dead Under 'Suspicious' Circumstances.

https://www.news18.com/news/world/putins-ukraine-mobilisation-incharge-roman-malyk-found-dead-under-suspicious-circumstances-6177943.html

don't believe everything on internet, so much fake shit out there... the only thing I believe these days is what I see with my own eyes.

RWSGFY says

zzyzzx says

Eric Holder says

Who the fuck are they drafting? Pensioners?

They did call up a 62-63 year old guy, so maybe. I imagine that it would go something like this:

Except the machinegun would be a rusted through piece of garbage.

Consider the possibility that it's the exact same machine gun pictured!

RWSGFY says

Volkssturm:

They are going to die soon anyway, so why not draft them?

RWSGFY says

Who said they are getting Mosins? Eat a crow!

https://mobile.twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1573650479799799809

https://mobile.twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1573651821104619521

that i can answer for you. burn a gun and itll rust like that. these guns were in a serious fire.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

RWSGFY says

Who said they are getting Mosins? Eat a crow!

https://mobile.twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1573650479799799809

https://mobile.twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1573651821104619521

that i can answer for you. burn a gun and itll rust like that. these guns were in a serious fire.

They would be all covered in bright red rust - look at all the burned Ruscian tanks in Ukraine for reference.

But fire or no fire that shit is not battle-ready and yet it's being issued.

A prophetic pro-Putin get-out-to-vote ad from 2020:

https://we.tl/t-nwKQvQ62Ok

This aged well.

Mobilized soldiers and relatives face rejection applying for debt relief

3:53 am, November 28, 2022Source: Kommersant
In November, conscripts and their families began complaining about their inability to access the debt relief which was promised to them by the Russian government. Kommersant noticed an increase in references to the “unfair approach” of banks on the forum Banki.ru.

Clients of Sberbank, VTB, Tinkoff Bank, Alfa Bank, and others complained about refusals and mistakes.

For example, the author of one of the reviews said that he had attempted to get debt relief due to the mobilization of his father, but that “the bank ignored requests in the chat, and the hotline hung up on him.” Another testimonial said that the bank initially accepted the documents, but later rejected them.

Another client said that he was approved for debt relief, but that his payment schedule still hadn’t been changed, “the arrears are burning and the penalties are dripping.”

VTB, HKF-Bank and MTS-Bank explained that the problems with the relief for mobilized people was due to “technical reasons.” Sberbank reported that during peak periods in early October “there may have been isolated refusals” associated with difficulties in the execution of powers of attorney, but “the problem is not acute at the moment.”

Lawyers interviewed by Kommersant believe that the debt relief program is underdeveloped, so banks are free to refuse clients.

A bill on credit vacations for mobilized people was submitted to the State Duma on September 23 - two days after the announcement of mobilization in Russia. It was later extended to all participants of the war in Ukraine. On October 7, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the law.

According to the document, servicemen or members of their families may apply for debt relief until December 31, 2023, provided that the loan agreement was concluded before mobilization or the conclusion of a contract with the Ministry of Defense. If a serviceman dies or becomes disabled, his obligations under the loan are terminated.

The best way to save up for a mobile phone is to swap your father for it! This commercial attempts to attract veteran male providers to be recycled into the meatgrinder, by shitting on Russia's own economic state of being. What marketing genius came up with this one?

https://twitter.com/grahworin/status/1604501536914055171?ref_src=patrick.net

RWSGFY says

3:53 am, November 28, 2022Source: Kommersant
In November, conscripts and their families began complaining about their inability to access the debt relief which was promised to them by the Russian government. Kommersant noticed an increase in references to the “unfair approach” of banks on the forum Banki.ru.

Clients of Sberbank, VTB, Tinkoff Bank, Alfa Bank, and others complained about refusals and mistakes.....

Where did you get this from? Nina Jankowicz perhaps?

Meanwhile, in the USA, the FBI used their wiretap on Guiliani to learn MacIssac had given him a copy of the Hunter Biden laptop in August 2020.

They then had Vivian Somethingorrather, former CEO of NPR, work with the Aspen Institute to hold a "simulation" of Russians "Hacking" Hunter Biden - by name - in September 2020. Dozens of media and big tech organizations were invited and participated

By preparing the groundwork - "Predictive Programming" - the Deep State was able to easily convince Media groups to ban the Daily Mail story on Hunter's Laptop in October 2020.

The enemy is inside the gates.

AmericanKulak says

By preparing the groundwork - "Predictive Programming" - the Deep State was able to easily convince Media groups to ban the Daily Mail story on Hunter's Laptop in October 2020.

Are you KIDDING me? NOOOOO.

The intelligence agencies just told the media to report it was "Russian disinformation", and they did, without question.

We really do not have a functioning media. Do you think journalists (propagandists) are so FUCKING stupid that they didn't realize there wasn't a weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq, that Iraq didn't send anthrax letters, that binLaden wasn't working with Hussein? I figured it out, and I'm just some schmuck engineer. It didn't take some fucking genius brainiac to realize the Bush administration was lying.

They aren't stupid. They are liars. They've been propagandists, professional liars, for 2 full decades.

Stop thinking that you're smart and they are just incredibly stupid. They aren't stupid, they are just completely morally corrupt. I'm sure they aren't like you, I would wager a good bet that you have something called "principles". They don't. They are propagandists as smart (and probably smarter) than either you and I. They aren't being fooled or tricked. They are in collusion.

The biggest problem in our nation today, is that people don't fully recognize what corporate media is. It's pure propaganda. It's difficult for most to realize this, but that's precisely what it is. It's not just limited to MSNBC, Fox, CNN, PBS, NPR, NYTimes, it's EVERYBODY, including Fox, Breitbart, NewsMax, the Drudge Report, everybody. Every fucking one of them. You want information, you have to search it out, and that's why the Internet was created. We didn't think the companies we helped create would stab us in the back, but they did, but the information is still there if you make an effort to look for it, and if you ask, I'll be happy to share what I think are fairly reliable sources.

Yes.

By inviting all the Media/Big Tech to an Aspen Institute gaming 'session', the FBI prepped the Media and thus they had pre-filled in the blanks about a "Russian Hack on Hunter Biden" story.

So when the Hunter Laptop story broke, they simply went to what they were trained to do.

During the Iraq War, dissenting voices were on Mainstream TV and Press outlets. It was in the second term of Obama, right when the radicalized Millie College Graduates began getting content creation jobs in media, that everything switched dramatically. Prior to that time, the Media would actually considered whether they were being "Used" by Government to break or hide certain stories, sometimes 'out loud' in their own columns. After 2012-2014, the Deep State made it's move having their first generation of Napoleon-trained dogs in Media.

AmericanKulak says

By inviting all the Media/Big Tech to an Aspen Institute gaming 'session', the FBI prepped the Media and thus they had pre-filled in the blanks about a "Russian Hack on Hunter Biden" story.

So when the Hunter Laptop story broke, they simply went to what they were trained to do.

The media didn't have to be prepped. It's more likely that the story about the "Aspen Institute gaming session" is just cover for the fact that the corporate media does what it's been doing for 20 years - lie.

AmericanKulak says

During the Iraq War, dissenting voices were on Mainstream TV and Press outlets.

Phil Donahue was fired from his top rated show because he wouldn't tow the line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Donahue#MSNBC_program

AmericanKulak says

It was in the second term of Obama, right when the radicalized Millie College Graduates began getting content creation jobs in media, that everything switched dramatically.

No, it dramatically changed once Clinton changed the laws to allow media consolidation and Colin Powell's son Michael Powell was made chairman of the FCC in 1997. That's when the change began. It's not the "millies" that destroyed it. Servants that would serve were hired, and only them.

It's just been going on for a bit longer than you realize. "Big media" has always been shit. Here is CNN in 1991:


original link

(That was recorded from a satellite feed - during the commercial segments you can see what is going on as they fuck around)

"Big media" bought up all the independents. There are 5 corporations that control our "major media" today, just 5, and they don't compete. Think Dizzey is just a bunch of pedophile fuckers? Well, they are war mongering Neocon fucks too.

richwicks says

Phil Donahue was fired from his top rated show because he wouldn't tow the line.

He made a return and his show wasn't doing anything like what it was. Garofalo and Meathead were on Fox News.

The big turn was Obama's 2nd Term.

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

Phil Donahue was fired from his top rated show because he wouldn't tow the line.

He made a return and his show wasn't doing anything like what it was. Garofalo and Meathead were on Fox News.

The big turn was Obama's 2nd Term.

Donahue is basically retired now.

The change happened under Clinton when the FCC allowed complete consolidation of the media. When the Bush administration was lying us into the Iraq war, all media was on board, all of it. The only exception was the Daily Show. The Daily Show became famous because they were the ONLY one on television that would address the lies of the Bush administration. Fox news at the time was 100% in.

Obama just cemented it with the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act to openly allow propaganda to be used against American citizens. He just formalized it, it's been done since the 1970's, although it was technically illegal.

The fundamental change was under Clinton. Not EVERYBODY got to memo though, like Donahue. BTW - I don't have any respect for Donahue, he is a scumbag with his stupid daytime television show. He set the stage for scum like Jerry Springer, Oprah, Geraldo, Sally Springer, etc. God I hate television.

Amazing social advertisement from Russia: old man struggles with money, wants to sell his Lada for nothing. Last moment, his grandson tells him he signed a contract with the army. Everyone is happy.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1605215982775308292?ref_src=patrick.net