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RWSGFY says

Of course it's possible to turn off gas remotely.

you're thinking natural gas. Most of us here in fly over country are on propane gas from our own tanks which are refilled by tens of thousands of small independent propane delivery businesses. Impossible to shut off my gas remotely.

RWSGFY says

Of course it's possible to turn off gas remotely. To a whole neighborhood that is. And if you mean "to a single house", it's not possible to do it with electricity either.

A smart meter can turn off electricity to a single residence.

stfu says

RWSGFY says

Of course it's possible to turn off gas remotely.

you're thinking natural gas. Most of us here in fly over country are on propane gas from our own tanks which are refilled by tens of thousands of small independent propane delivery businesses. Impossible to shut off my gas remotely.

You could also make a biogas digester to produce methane. This produces sulfur hydroxide though but you can filter that out by passing it through a bubbler of chlorinated water. The resulting gas I think is something like 40% carbon dioxide and 60% methane.

You can use lawn clippings, sewage, animal droppings, all sorts of waste to produce the energy. There's a few people on youtube that demonstrate it. The volume of the gas, I have no idea about.

You have to remove the sulfur dioxide to safely compress the gas I believe. This is all a bit out of my league, but it's interesting.

richwicks says

You could also make a biogas digester to produce methane. This produces sulfur hydroxide though but you can filter that out by passing it through a bubbler of chlorinated water. The resulting gas I think is something like 40% carbon dioxide and 60% methane.

You can use lawn clippings, sewage, animal droppings, all sorts of waste to produce the energy.

It may be easier just to just burn firewood/clipping/cowplops for heat and cooking, rather than a complex biogas system.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

You could also make a biogas digester to produce methane. This produces sulfur hydroxide though but you can filter that out by passing it through a bubbler of chlorinated water. The resulting gas I think is something like 40% carbon dioxide and 60% methane.

You can use lawn clippings, sewage, animal droppings, all sorts of waste to produce the energy.

It may be easier just to just burn firewood/clipping/cowplops for heat and cooking, rather than a complex biogas system.

Yeah, I don't know. I just found it interesting, and spent a little bit of time researching it. There's a lot of energy in waste and creating biogas is easier than drying out lawn clippings to make fuel - I THINK..

It's an interesting concept. Not only does it produce usable energy, but it produces fertilizer as well.

The methane it produces, can be used for cooking, heating, even powering an ICE engine. I'm not certain about the practicality of it though.

richwicks says

The methane it produces, can be used for cooking, heating, even powering an ICE engine.

In theory, so could collecting farts. And as you said about the biogas, may not be practical.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

The methane it produces, can be used for cooking, heating, even powering an ICE engine.

In theory, so could collecting farts. And as you said about the biogas, may not be practical.

Well, you don't produce enough methane from flatulence obviously to be useful, and you wouldn't want to have to wear a device to collect it regardless.

The question is, is it practical? The fact that I cannot easily determine this leads me to believe that is largely is not practical however, if it was, it would be suppressed because it would lessen dependency on centralization. You'd have to to talk to somebody that is trying to do it to find out.

Talk to people who have tried it, but be suspicious - they are often fanatics that think they are "saving the world". They will exaggerate, and they aren't even being malicious - they just think it CAN work, and if you go into it, maybe you can help them as well. They are unconscious as to their motivation.

There were a bunch of 1990's hippies that stole cooking oil to make biodeisel (ever work in a restaurant, there is a receptacle to dump used oil - burger oil, old frying oil, whatever). Their thinking was the "oil was just going to be composted anyhow" - nope, it's sent to a rendering plant, and you get soap and other products made from it. They were 100% unaware that they were stealing, they just believed they were recovering something they could make useful, that would otherwise be in a garbage tip. These greenies don't understand everything, and they have their heart in the right place, they just don't realize that we can't all be doing this shit.

richwicks says

Talk to people who have tried it, but be suspicious - they are often fanatics that think they are "saving the world"

Yes, do remember the alcohol fuel craze from about 1980? The idea that people could power their cars from fuel that make themselves? I even researched using whey as the fermentation base. Good in theory, but not practical even though plenty of books and experts expounded on it.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

Talk to people who have tried it, but be suspicious - they are often fanatics that think they are "saving the world"

Yes, do remember the alcohol fuel craze from about 1980? The idea that people could power their cars from fuel that make themselves? I even researched using whey as the fermentation base. Good in theory, but not practical even though plenty of books and experts expounded on it.

Bad information is worse than lies. I've gone down plenty of false paths myself.

I think solar energy might be a good path, but energy storage is a problem. Creating hydrogen from water and electrolysis might be reasonable, but that's super explosive and hard to contain and not energy efficient, but way more efficient than using plants to make biogas. Plants are about 1% efficient at storing energy, and that's a type of algae.

Solar panels are up to 20% efficient at creation, and they die down to 15% or lower, and converting that energy to hydrogen is below 50%, so like 6% efficiency and there is the question of whether you ever recover the energy needed to make the solar panel? We might be there, but maybe we're not, but I think we can get there. Solar panels today are so thin, they are like flexible sheets of plastic - but what is their longevity, how much maintenance do you need?

I'm an engineer, I want to solve problems, not make fake solutions. I've seen so many fake solutions. Electric cars are a fake solution.

Tenpoundbass says

How many beers would a man have to consume so he doesn't recognize "she" is a tranny and takes it home? Maybe that is Bud's angle, just a stronger beer goggle.

Lola Juice. L-O-L-A Lola Juice.

Soapstone is supposed to be quite good at storing heat and it's easily available at Home Depot.

Someday I'll try heating it up with solar energy concentrated with a massive lens and releasing the heat at night. Just for fun.

HeadSet says

How many beers would a man have to consume so he doesn't recognize "she" is a tranny and takes it home?

I'll bite:



If you drink about 12 of these, you might be out of your mind enough to fuck this:



In the asshole because there is no vagina there.

It's weird, nothing about him seems genuine. I worry about karma now, the concept is that we are all god and we all experience all lives of everybody and everything, which means I will experience being Dylan Mulvaney.

Oh, and all of you will as well, you'll even experience being me. Sorry about my bad life..

What a compliment. They make Stormy look like a drag tranny.