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richwicks says

HeadSet says

richwicks says

Get a lawyer to do it pro-bono, have the lawyer keep all the money.

"Pro-bono" means free, even if there is an award. "Contingency" is where the lawyer collects only on successful award.

I stand corrected and will remember that.

Both statements are correct. There are some wealthy attorney's that do legitimate pro-bono work for a cause they believe in. I have a friend that does patent law but does pro-bono criminal on the side. She got a guy out of prison because the cops coerced admitting he killed someone. She didn't and doesn't want a dime from the future settlement.

She is 55ish and makes $500k/yr, husband makes $180k as a government employee. No kids. So attorney's that do work for no pay do exist. Extremely rare though. Most doing pro-bono are looking to get at least 30% of the cut if a payout is ever given. AND they still have to have faith in the case. You have to find someone like the women I mention or a young scrappy attorney looking to make a name for something high profile in your area.

WookieMan says

Both statements are correct. There are some wealthy attorney's that do legitimate pro-bono work for a cause they believe in. I have a friend that does patent law but does pro-bono criminal on the side. She got a guy out of prison because the cops coerced admitting he killed someone. She didn't and doesn't want a dime from the future settlement.

She is 55ish and makes $500k/yr, husband makes $180k as a government employee. No kids. So attorney's that do work for no pay do exist. Extremely rare though. Most doing pro-bono are looking to get at least 30% of the cut if a payout is ever given. AND they still have to have faith in the case. You have to find someone like the women I mention or a young scrappy attorney looking to make a name for something high profile in your area.

I need to correct some stuff here.

Pro Bono is absolutely free. No contingency or anything. It’s most often in criminal cases and in some civil stuff like renter-landlord issues and restraining orders. There are some law firms that are non profits who do mostly or only pro bono work, many law firms even high profile law firms also do some pro bono work. Finally there are individual lawyers who do pro bono criminal defense and are paid by the county on a per client basis. This last one is bottom of the dung heap for attorneys and why those engaged in this work are often nicknamed “pro bonehead”. No I’m not joking.

https://legaljobs.io/blog/how-do-pro-bono-lawyers-get-paid-in-the-us/#:~:text=Pro%20bono%20organizations%20along%20with,lawyers%20for%20their%20legal%20services.

Contingency is a lawyer taking on a case because they believe a payout is likely. So to gain a client for themselves, they represent without any payment and once a settlement or judgement is reached they get a percentage of it. What is less commonly known is that there is almost always language in these agreements that require the client to pay all the attorney fees in the event that a settlement can’t be reached or if judgement goes against them. This is primarily to prevent an unreasonable fuck from refusing to settlement deal when it is reasonable or prudent to accept a settlement. For instance say a dude is hit by a drunk driver and gets his leg chopped off in the process. Say the drunk drivers insurance company has a $300k liability max and the DD doesn’t have any identifiable assets. At that point the law firm representing the victim may approach him with this info and urge him to accept the $300k. But imbecile client says Larry h parker got dude $1 million and he wants $1 million too. This is an unreasonable fuck of a client. So law firm will represent clients wishes but may just drop him and go after client for attorney fees up to that point.

I also saw a blurb earlier in this thread about legal precedent. One court case absolutely does not set precedence. In fact, it typically takes a ruling becoming “case law” for it to be cited in other cases. To become case law a ruling must be “published”. At that point it is precedence that can be cited in other court cases. Typically this is only done after an appeals court ruled on a case.

I had this argument with Marcus years ago where he stated that People vs George Zimmerman would set precedent. I said that’s not how precedence works and cited the same information I’m stating here. 10 years down the road and not one court room cites that case as precedence for anything.

Not to go off on too much of a tangent but it’s why one should never listen to an attorney or expert who goes off on extraneous topics. Things like “oh Martin was just a teenager” or “if I had a son….” Those statements are utterly vapid and irrelevant to the case at hand. Their only purpose is to place doubt in the minds of stupid and weak minded jurors.

https://legal.thomsonreuters.com/blog/what-is-a-legal-precedent-definition-and-case-law-resources/#:~:text=Legal%20precedents%20are%20when%20a,of%20a%20later%20similar%20case.

richwicks says

I do not mind these mandates at all, for theater, for sports, for movies, for restaurants, PROVIDED they are not enforced by the government. This is voluntary, just boycott.

I would add that any theater which gets government money does not have the right to mandate anything. Totally private, OK, they can mandate whatever they want and the public can stay away with no loss. But if once they take any taxpayer money, they must be obligated to provide equal access to everyone.

I don't even really mind the idiots who would inject a totally new gene-modifying technology voluntarily. But once someone threatens to fire or expel you for not injecting toxic slime, that becomes an extremely serious crime.

@nighttimemedia
You're both correct. There are people who want to be authoritarians, but who are too weak to become authoritarians. So they thrive when practicing authoritarians, from outside of their identity group, give them second-hand authority, in return for betraying the other members of their identity-group to the authoritarians. While they have the second-hand authority they feel pride.

If the system collapses, then they feel fear of retribution, or at least abandonment, from the rest of their identity-group, and use denial to try to avoid it. They're weak, and need more support than most from outside of themselves, or they collapse. If their identity-group abandons them, then they have to find another. And other groups are unlikely to take in traitors.
11:19 PM · Jun 4, 2023

You either own the business and can refuse service for any reason or you don't/can't. A baker has to give service to some fag that might have aids or some other sexual disease but he doesn't have to service an unjabbed person? This whole thing is fucked up. Now medical records are everyone's business? What about HIPPA? HIPPA was the only thing needed to stop this whole bullshit. Rules/laws/regulations/the bill of rights and the constitution don't mean shit. The rule of law is jello.

GNL says

The rule of law is jello.

I agree.

https://patrick.net/post/1379445/2023-05-30-the-us-government-is-illegitimate

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/pandemic-impressionism-i-the-lie?publication_id=268621&post_id=126105275&isFreemail=true

Those actors best positioned to lead a public dialogue, namely the press and the broadcast media, are among the most complicit. The last thing they want is anybody to review all the truly crazy things they have advocated. The only political party not implicated in pandemic repressions, the populist Alternative für Deutschland, are by an informal and deeply undemocratic agreement of the self-professed democratic political establishment excluded from governing coalitions, and slandered as fascist, antidemocratic, antisemitic, racist and xenophobic by everyone with a microphone. They were right all along, but in the modern right-thinking German imaginary, they are not allowed to be right, not ever. That lockdowns were an obvious catastrophe, that mass vaccination was the height of folly, that the public vilification of the unvaccinated was profoundly wrong and in fact irreconcilable with the liberal values enshrined in the constitution – AfD politicians were clear about all of these things from the beginning, and it is not just a great embarrassment that their positions have aged so well. It is, in the mind of the average German, for whom politics are a perpetual morality play in which globalist progressive green policies are always right and their opponents always wrong, a baffling paradox, dangerous even to contemplate.

(paywall)

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

" https://www.forbes.com/sites/leeseymour/2021/06/07/bruce-springsteen-returns-to-broadwaywith-a-vaccine-mandate/ "

No kidding? This is June 2023, 2.5 years after the introduction of the toxin vaccines that killed and injured millions of people and this loser - who cannot stand on his own two feet - is imposing a vaccine mandate on his audience?

This, in my thinking, is another Globalist attempt to cover up the fact that the Covid vaccines are toxins, they are unsafe, ineffective and whose toxicity killed and injured millions of people.

richwicks says

I do not mind these mandates at all, for theater, for sports, for movies, for restaurants, PROVIDED they are not enforced by the government. This is voluntary, just boycott.

HIPPA. No one has any right to inquire into your medical status.

But they did anyway, and fired people for their answers, and got away with that. So far.

Everyone who mandated the toxxine must be hanged.

HeadSet says

HIPPA. No one has any right to inquire into your medical status.

It's like those gay couples going out of their way to give money to a highly religious Christian baker for a gay wedding.

Why are you giving these people your money, if you disagree with them so vehemently?

For all I care, Bruce Springsteen can require everybody to wear a butt plug and a ball gag to go to his concert. Who cares? He can make any stupid requirement he wants.

"Oh I won't be able to hear The Boss unless I take a risky dangerous experimental injection! Well, I guess I have to!"

Yeah, for anybody thinking this way, just die already. Please?

Heck, at this point, pretty simple to fake a vaccine card anyhow. Nobody checks. Know somebody with a vax card? Just duplicate it. It's not like they have a computer there, are checking the validity and whatever. They just look at it.

But I have a better idea, just boycott.

https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1665826318846500864?ref_src=patrick.net



Screenshot so I can include it with memes:

https://nocollegemandates.substack.com/p/serious-shot-podcast

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Are colleges still mandating the jab?

Yes, many still are.

https://twitter.com/FromKulak/status/1666959578225836033?ref_src=patrick.net

CatGirl Kulak 😻😿 (Anarchonomicon)
@FromKulak
Hey remember when Walmart, of its own initiative, implemented vaccine passport checks and refused to let the unvaccinated buy BLOODY GROCERIES (starve to death pleb).

Would be a shame if everyone remembered and gave them the BudLight treatment.

#BoycottWalmart #NoAmnesty

GNL says

Are colleges still mandating the jab?

To be honest, why is anyone even going to college now? Outside of STEM, you go to college to fuck and party. The classes aren't difficult if you attend and stay sober during the day. I never had a difficult college class that challenged me. My wife is competitive as hell and we took the same Spanish history class. I didn't study, didn't read any of the material. I took copious amounts of notes in class and re-read them before the test. I generally remember nothing of it now. Waste of time

She was a business major, but had to check the boxes. Should have never been in the class. I got the A she got the B after reading all the books and shit the professor told us to. I was a history major though. I KNEW the professor was going to test on what he lectured on. She didn't get it and trust what I was saying. If a professor lectures for 3 classes a day, they expect you to listen, at least in History. Why? It makes their grading easier because they talked about it all day.

I just really don't understand why they require a vaccine at colleges. Like really think about it. The students are probably dishing out AIDS, herpes and other STD's that have life long effects on the body. The flu for a young person needs a mandated vaccine that doesn't work? I'm burned out on covid and the topic is basically dead here in the midwest. I feel for you CA people though. It's just not a big deal anymore at all where I'm at. I only talk about it here.

Patrick says

richwicks says

I do not mind these mandates at all, for theater, for sports, for movies, for restaurants, PROVIDED they are not enforced by the government. This is voluntary, just boycott.

I would add that any theater which gets government money does not have the right to mandate anything. Totally private, OK, they can mandate whatever they want and the public can stay away with no loss. But if once they take any taxpayer money, they must be obligated to provide equal access to everyone.

I don't even really mind the idiots who would inject a totally new gene-modifying technology voluntarily. But once someone threatens to fire or expel you for not injecting toxic slime, that becomes an extremely serious crime.

Fuck them.

Recently, I had to call a medical provider about billing for some procedures my wife underwent. They told me they couldn't tell me because HIPPA. I said "Wow, it's so nice that you're now following the law, unlike during the plandemic where everyone's vaccine status was public knowledge. Keep up the good work."

WookieMan says

To be honest, why is anyone even going to college now? Outside of STEM, you go to college to fuck and party.

You just answered your own question. College with clown majors is just a 4-year extension of adolescence.

WookieMan says

The classes aren't difficult if you attend and stay sober during the day. I never had a difficult college class that challenged me.

WookieMan says

I was a history major though.

Engineerinng types may have a different opinion.

WookieMan says

I just really don't understand why they require a vaccine at colleges. Like really think about it. The students are probably dishing out AIDS, herpes and other STD's that have life long effects on the body. The flu for a young person needs a mandated vaccine that doesn't work? I'm burned out on covid and the topic is basically dead here in the midwest. I feel for you CA people though. It's just not a big deal anymore at all where I'm at. I only talk about it here.

They require the toxxine at colleges not to protect students who are 100% safe from Wuhan Virus, as not one reasonably healthy person that age has died from it. The reason is to make profits for Pfizer and to get students used to obeying obviously harmful stupid rules on demand.

It should still be a topic in the midwest. It should be THE topic forever, until everyone who mandated it is hanged. You may think that will never happen, but hanging the bastards can happen if we all keep the focus on it. Also, simply talking about it helps to protect all of us from a repeat.

HeadSet says

WookieMan says

The classes aren't difficult if you attend and stay sober during the day. I never had a difficult college class that challenged me.

WookieMan says

I was a history major though.

Engineerinng types may have a different opinion.

Correct. I have an EE degree and a different opinion.

You cannot pass in engineering school without working your butt off, and maybe not even then. Some of the classes are deliberately made hard enough that a certain percentage will fail.

I learned that you have to make friends in engineering school, particularly with the Chinese students who already have degrees in China, but are just getting an American degree for increased legitimacy.

I also learned that the Chinese students cheat and they coordinate the cheating with each other. Maybe not all of them, but I don't recall running across any Chinese student opposed to cheating. I think it's just a cultural thing. They would call it "realism".

stereotomy says

Recently, I had to call a medical provider about billing for some procedures my wife underwent. They told me they couldn't tell me because HIPPA. I said "Wow, it's so nice that you're now following the law, unlike during the plandemic where everyone's vaccine status was public knowledge. Keep up the good work."

Thank you @stereotomy

We should all be doing this.

Patrick says

WookieMan says

I was a history major though.

Engineerinng types may have a different opinion.

Correct. I have an EE degree and a different opinion.

As I said, STEM degrees are different and the only reason to go to college in today's age. I gave no shits for math or science outside of the forced courses. I was planning the attorney route and said fuck it. Poli Sci minor and History major. Use neither outside of saying I did it. Waste of time and $$$.

Cheating is rampant in college. I did it and got caught. Nothing happened. It's like when I talk about debt. Nothing actually happens. Everyone is so scared. I got caught and could have moved to a new university in weeks and gotten accepted. They just want my fucking money. Has nothing to do with education or teaching you. Until you realize that, you'll continue to be brainwashed.

WookieMan says

It's like when I talk about debt. Nothing actually happens.

I worked with a guy at Wells Fargo who would get all the credit cards he could, max them out, and then default. As it was unsecured debt, the credit card companies couldn't do anything but take down his credit rating.

Then seven years later, when his credit was clear, he would do it again. He didn't care about his credit rating.

WookieMan says

They just want my fucking money. Has nothing to do with education or teaching you. Until you realize that, you'll continue to be brainwashed.

I agree 100%.

Universities really don't care about you at all.

The right way to fund college education is by promising 10% of your pay for 10 years after college. Then the college has a motive to really help you. If you take out loans, you'll probably be paying that 10% anyway, maybe more.

Patrick says

Then seven years later, when his credit was clear, he would do it again. He didn't care about his credit rating.

Bingo. It's what blacks do if I'm being honest. They don't care about evictions or credit. Guess what. They survive.

Not joking when I say I know people that committed suicide because of debt. It doesn't matter. The only thing it does defaulting is limit future borrowing as you mention for 7 years. Generally less. Most could get a home loan in 4 years even after a foreclosure.

The key is communication. NEVER, EVER answer your phone and acknowledge your name. Especially if you don't recognize the number. Never say yes. I get that can be hard if you're in business and have random calls all the time. Be a dick. "Hey is this John Doe?".... "Why are you asking?" Never say yes or your name on a phone call unless you know the reason/person for the call.

I only answer maybe 10-15 phone numbers if I get a call. All others go to voicemail. If it's important, and I assume it's from my inner circle of family or friends I just don't answer. 90% of calls I get don't leave a message. Get fucked.

I pretty much never answer my phone unless I recognize the caller. Hell, I just leave it in airplane mode in a drawer most of the time.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/it-finally-happened

It finally happened
Someone who'd ostracized me during Covid said it out loud: "You were right. Never again."

ALEX BERENSON
JUN 11, 2023

It was maybe the most humiliating moment of my Covid life.

Summer 2021, the Twitter-ban era: a friend of one of our kids came to our house to play. When they realized I - not my wife - was supervising, the child’s parents told us they were uncomfortable and would retrieve their kid immediately.

They weren’t joking. They arrived in minutes. They made a three-point turn in our driveway so they were facing out and wouldn’t spend any extra seconds close to me.

I watched their child run to their car, watched it disappear down the road, thinking: Now my kids are paying the price, too.

Yesterday the mother of that child told me I’d been right about the lockdowns - and about Covid generally. The conversation wasn’t long, but it was long enough. 2020 and 2021 had been incredibly difficult, she said. She didn’t like how frightened she’d become, she hardly recognized the person she’d been, and she felt only now had she recovered.

What if they do it again, I said. You know next winter, or whenever, they’re going to try.

The mom didn’t laugh. She did something better. She smirked. No way, she said. No masks, no lockdowns, she was done with all of it. Yes, you were right, she said, but your tone was assholish sometimes -

I know, I said -

But you know, I feel kind of assholish these days too, she said.

She’s the first person I know personally to flat-out admit I was right. I thanked her, and I meant it. I was surprised how good the vindication felt.

Our kids hang out again now, too.

We’ll talk about the mRNAs another time.

Patrick says

We’ll talk about the mRNAs another time.

Maybe after you are being loaded onto the Paddy Wagon after she pointed out to the Patrol where you were hiding.

Patrick says

I pretty much never answer my phone unless I recognize the caller. Hell, I just leave it in airplane mode in a drawer most of the time.

I would do the same with airplane mode, but kids...kind of hard. Especially right now in summer when they're roaming the town. In a blink of an eye I'll have 10 damn kids here from 10 other parents. Most are well behaved though it's just the calls/texts to send Billy or Fred home from the parents. We caved and the oldest took over an old phone of mine and nephew has one.

Always said before kids they're not getting one until they can drive. lol. Caved in 12 years. It makes life so much easier.

WookieMan says

Caved in 12 years.

You ain't the only one. When I pass the bus stops, I see groups of kids looking at their phones rather than talking to each other.

Make no mistake about it, these phones are, overall, terrible. 8 year olds are viewing porn. Wow. Government always talks about doing things for the children but they can't do anything about porn?

Maybe the government is controlled by people who want children to be looking at porn, people like John Podesta with his creepy child-porn art.

But there is a danger in that the same mechanisms used to ban porn could be used to ban political dissent.

GNL says

Make no mistake about it, these phones are, overall, terrible. 8 year olds are viewing porn.

Are 8-year-olds even interested in porn? Just the giggle factor of seeing someone's butt. "Hey look Mikey, that man is bare!!"

HeadSet says

GNL says

Make no mistake about it, these phones are, overall, terrible. 8 year olds are viewing porn.

Are 8-year-olds even interested in porn? Just the giggle factor of seeing someone's butt. "Hey look Mikey, that man is bare!!"

I remember when porn magazines were displayed in these racks and I was able to pick them up and look through them. I was not even in 8th grade yet. I watched my first porn movie (Stiff Competition) at about that same age. I admit to having had an addiction for decades after that.

No bueno.

Never forget the park ranger in a car with a mask on telling my kids and I hiking in 90+ degree temps with nobody around to leave because we were not wearing a mask. Fuck the libs that posted on neighborhood Facebook about us jumping fence to play in park. Fuck libs for all the stress they caused my family with school closures. Fuck them for putting the last nail into CA. Fuck Joe Biden for empowering companies to fire the unvaccinated.

Thank you libs for going so far that it woke up so many people that the government is out to fuck us.

HeadSet says

Are 8-year-olds even interested in porn? Just the giggle factor of seeing someone's butt. "Hey look Mikey, that man is bare!!"

I don't think it is something to take lightly. Along with porn issues, I ran into more problems in HS. I mentioned it some time ago but, in HS I had more sex than I can remember. It was a boarding HS but, the girls loved to give blowjobs. I never had sex sex. Lots of blowjobs though. Any addiction is a bad addiction.