patrick.net

Queen Elizabeth II was shocked when she found out what Edward was up to, so who knows.

HeadSet says

Patrick says

So the real pandemic was the stupidity of officials and the public, according to this analysis.

I dunno. Maybe this is a play for the guilty to be called "stupid" for their actions, rather than crooks who betrayed the public while taking bribes.

They always hide behind incompetence.

Iraq didn't have a WMD program? OOPS! Qaddafi wasn't causing a humanitarian crisis and the US bombed them and caused a humanitarian crisis? OOPS! Assad wasn't gassing his own people and the Douma chemical attacks were faked? OOPS! Trump WASN'T a Putin puppet and 50 intelligence officials lied about Hunter Biden's laptops being Russian "disinformation"? OOPS! The vaccines are worthless and were imposed for a minor disease that was never an emergency? OOPS!

Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity, UNLESS it is the government. They always hide behind stupidity, without exception.

If stupidity explained the last 20 years, we would have seen people fired and prosecuted, but we never do. What is Victoria Nuland doing in government still, if she was just incompetent?

https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/clarification-of-my-message-on-the

Here is the clarification of my position:

The mass injuries and deaths by the mRNA/DNA injections are intentional. They should be investigated as a crime of mass murder and attempted mass murder by poisoning.

The lack of any enforcement action by HHS on the injuries and deaths is also intentional. This is demonstrated by the now very obvious refusal of the officialdom to stop them or limit in any way, despite clear evidence of their harm.

HHS is following the orders of the National Security Council and the DOD as the Chief Operating Officer of the Operation Warp Speed, i.e. the HHS is operating under the military command structure. Debbie Lerman has identified NSC in charge of covid policy in her past writing, and I am grateful to her for pointing me in that direction.

The organizational structure that is responsible for the execution of this crime in the US can be described as follows: POTUS=>NSC=>DOD=>HHS=>state and local health authorities => owners/administrators of health delivery settings=>local vaccinators.

All men and women in positions of authority in the above organizational structure operate treasonously and under the color of law.

What organization is above the treasonous US officials, I can only guess. I do not believe it’s the “market forces” of investors wanting returns and new marvelous tech of the “mRNA platform”. I have familiarity with both, market forces, and with central command-control structures and I am convinced that there is a centralized global control of this operation due to the perfectly implemented global lockstep procedures and control of ALL governments. US alone cannot do this.

The DOD is in charge of funding and ordering the injections from complicit pharmaceutical manufacturers, bypassing pharmaceutical regulations, and utilizing opaque defense purchasing systems typically used for weapons manufacture. DOD is in charge of the distribution of injections to the intended targets - the people of the United States. The intended targets also include military service members, government workers and even expendable employees of the pharma companies.

The pseudo-legal statutory framework that the treasonous men and women are utilizing to commit these crimes has been described in detail by Katherine Watt.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-bill-gates-the-worlds-most

Bill Gates is becoming a menace.

He will not leave us alone.

And he’s learned all the wrong lessons from Covid.

At this point he is worse than merely clueless. As one of the world’s 10 richest men and controller of a $50 billion charitable honeypot, Gates has the power to drive public health policy in dangerous directions.

He appears hellbent on doing so. ...

The key fact of Covid is this: the elites were wrong about everything.

Every.

Thing.

This concept may seem difficult to accept. Everything? Could public health experts - and the governments and billionaires who funded them, and the media outlets that carried water for them - really have been wrong about everything?

Yes, everything.

To take a non-exhaustive list:

They were wrong about masks, lockdowns, school closures, and ventilators. Wrong about how well the mRNA vaccines would work, and what their side effects would be. Wrong about whether kids should even be offered them, given their pathetic effectiveness for children.

Wrong to encourage censorship and stifle debate. Wrong when they predicted Covid would hit the developing world harder than wealthy countries. Most of all, wrong about the risk the coronavirus posed to anyone who was not at death’s door either because of age, other illnesses, or both.

I’m sure they were wrong about other stuff too, but that’s enough. ...

Bill Gates made a fortune as a monopolist at Microsoft and a second fortune after he quit Microsoft and Satya Nadellab fixed it for him. Unfortunately, he is too rich and too in love with himself to spend his retirement owning sports teams, and not smart enough to try something truly weird like colonizing Mars.

Instead, he’s surrounded himself with a bunch of people telling him that pandemics are a mortal threat, without bothering to notice that their salaries and careers all depend on convincing him of the mortal threat of pandemics.

It would all be a big joke, except that gain-of-function research (and even the bat expeditions) are actually dangerous.

I don’t know how we stop these people - they have all the money, all the media, and most of the politicians - but we have to try.

Freedom pills usually work against tyrants.
I like mine chambered in .300 Blackout in counts of 30.
Pew pew!

"The main mark of modern governments is that we do not know who governs, de facto any more than de jure. We see the politician and not his backer; still less the backer of the backer; or, what is most important of all, the banker of the backer."

— J. R. R. TOLKIEN
The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien

Shaman says

Freedom pills usually work against tyrants.
I like mine chambered in .300 Blackout in counts of 30.
Pew pew!

The way to fix it is to refuse to comply.

Worked wonders in India, and it worked well in the civil rights movement.

It's a widespread lie that business discriminated against blacks during the civil rights movement, no, they wanted customers - government discriminated against them. Laws were passed to promote segregation.

My mother was alive at that time, when she was in New York City, black people on busses were polite, well dressed, and criminality wasn't tolerated and she never experienced criminality. Harlem was entirely black, nobody gave anybody trouble. She used to go to Harlem. She wasn't rich, and the area was cheap to go to.

Segregation was still around, however, it wasn't a bad thing really, at the time. In the 1960's black schools and districts became under-policed (a choice by our governments!), and therefore violent. Black schools had worse education, obviously worse education. It was a (purposeful) government created problem.

That's when the Black Panthers came up, all they wanted was to be able to police their own areas, and wanted school lunches for their kids, and to control the curriculum of public education. They REALLY were good people, honestly. They were concerned about their neighborhood and wanted to have authority over it. They were infiltrated and destroyed by the FBI. The Black Panthers of today have NO RELATION to the original Black Panthers.

I don't agree with segregation, I just know our government purposely made it unworkable.

Everybody is being under-policed now.

BTW - if you've ever heard of MGTOW - it started with black men, in the 1970s. Insane feminism (and there's non insane feminism) targeted black women first. In 1960, a woman couldn't get a car loan. Remember the television show "Good Times"? Esther Rolle was first cast as a single mother, she refused to do it without being cast as being married. The family was cast as a family growing up in the projects, but she didn't want to project normalcy of a single mother. She tried to reverse the trend of "a woman can do it all" - no they can't. Takes a family to raise a kid or a family.

John Amos quit the show because he believed the script was demeaning the problems of lower class families. Jimmie "Dyn-O-Mite!" Walker, he clashed with. His main complaint was "black people don't act that way". Television is propaganda, it influences behavior. It normalizes behavior. People ape what they see on the damned propaganda box, and it does. I hate that fucking thing.

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/there-is-no-political-left-what-appears

Almost all of the supposed “leftism” that one sees today is being driven from above by capital. The people driving this agenda are:

the big investment managers (BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street);

the World Economic Forum;

the CIA; and

Big Philanthropy (the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, George Soros, Laurene Powell Jobs, the Rockefeller Foundation, Ford Foundation, etc.).

The billionaires, the oligarchs, the holders of capital, the richest people in the world, are driving the “left” agenda. They write about it in their annual letters to shareholders and they talk about it nonstop in public speeches — this is their vision for how they want to remake the world.

The ruling class uses a whole host of bougiecrats to implement the plan including:

the management consultants (McKinsey, PWC, Booz Allen);

the PR Firms (Edelman, Weber Shandwick, Hill+Knowlton, Ogilvy); and

the thoroughly corporate Democratic Party.

No actual leftists are involved in this process at all.

At first this makes no sense. The political left and the billionaires should be mortal enemies. But somehow the billionaires are playing dress up, pretend, cosplay leftism while the actual left base does not exist.

Okay so let’s think through why this might be the case. Let’s look at this from the perspective of the ruling class that is implementing this agenda:

1. If one wants to take over the world, it helps to have a movement or at least the appearance of a movement.

The political right is bad at movement politics. For conservatives, the fundamental unit of society is the individual, not the collective. Social movements make conservatives cringe. So if one wants to take over the world, one needs to embrace the aesthetics and rhetoric of the left (while excluding any actual leftists who might get in the way). The appearance of a movement gives legitimacy to this ruling class project for world domination.

2. The trillion dollar grifts of the ruling class require massive government spending.

So again, one cannot run that through the political right, they are too busy trying to shrink government (they often fail at that, but that’s their stated goal). The trillion dollar vaccine grift, the trillion dollar health insurance grift, and endless multi-trillion dollar wars all around the world require a political party that believes in Big Government. So the ruling class has to run these grifts through the Democratic Party.

3. The corporate embrace of astroturf leftism actually makes sense from a marketing perspective.

Women make up half the population, so including women doubles the size of the market.

The spending power of dual income gay and lesbian couples (who are often childless) is massive, so they are a coveted market as well.

People of color, of course, a huge market (most of the world). ...

It should be noted that none of these corporations are being forced to do anything —they are eagerly embracing the instructions from above as if they were their own ideas.

4. It’s a lot easier to oppress and enslave people if they do not realize that they are being oppressed and enslaved.

‘No sweetie, you’re not being poisoned, made a debt slave, and drained of all income and wealth — you are being saved from deadly diseases through Safe & Effective Vaccines™️!’

‘No sweetie, you’re not being chained to Central Bank Digital Currency, imprisoned in 15 minute cities, and forced to eat synthetic food — you’re saving the planet and yourself from Catastrophic Climate Change™️!’

‘No sweetie, you’re not being sterilized and castrated in order to reduce the population and enrich the ruling class — you’re being empowered to be your True Authentic Self™️!’

So the left political project now is just kitsch, a toxic mimic of its former self, deployed by the ruling class to enslave and depopulate the world.

The question is, why are so few people on the left able to see this? Naomi Klein, Noam Chomsky, and Michael Moore, to name a few, should have been able to spot the Covid psyop in about 5 minutes. Instead they became rabid cheerleaders for fascism and genocide.

I have a few attempts at an answer:

I think the left identifies with the ruling class at this point;

After losing for 150 years straight it must have felt nice to finally start winning, albeit in service of everything they once opposed; and

The modern left took to fascism like a duck to water so the authoritarian tendencies must have been there all along.

But there is no reason the rest of us have to go along with this sick and twisted charade. We must speak simple truths out loud every day:

There is no political left.

The current scheme (of endless pandemics, vaccines, lucrative treatments for vaccine harms, CBDC, fake food, 15 minute cities, 5G, internet of bodies, 24/7/365 surveillance, social credit scores, digital vaccine passports, etc.) is being run from above by the ruling class.

The ruling class seeks to enslave and depopulate the world.

They must be stopped by any means necessary.

When we prosecute the architects of the iatrogenocide, our life expectancy and standard of living will soar.

Free speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion, free markets, and free people produce the best outcomes for people on this planet. Let’s return to that.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/antisemitic-flyers-again-found-across-southern-california/

This is something a friend forwarded to me. No real confidence in it.
But who knows? I’m going to Havasu on the 5th, so not being in LA for any potential nuclear war seems like a good plan. Although I did book this trip a couple weeks ago.

Shaman says

This is something a friend forwarded to me. No real confidence in it.
But who knows? I’m going to Havasu on the 5th, so not being in LA for any potential nuclear war seems like a good plan. Although I did book this trip a couple weeks ago.

Bet you a coke it doesn't happen.

Honestly, I think it's funny people think they will survive a nuclear war. You'll run out of supplies in short order, and starve to death, unless you're a Mormon in a very rural area. It would mean the end of our government and basically our technological society. Power will go out, that means the end of water, food supplies will stop moving, There's really no point in trying to survive.

Except that the same thing will happen in a million other scenarios due to the over-centralization of everything for majority of the population. This is literally what we've prepared for, what preppers can and will survive.

NuttBoxer says

Except that the same thing will happen in a million other scenarios due to the over-centralization of everything for majority of the population. This is literally what we've prepared for, what preppers can and will survive.

I’m more of a mind with this guy. I have the knowledge and the skill to make things work and keep my family alive. It’s really about making smart choices.
But Yah most people would just lie down and die.
But the prepping I’ve done has all been knowledge, not gear or supplies. I figure any disaster would require me to get out of the city area, so stockpiling food or gear wouldn’t gain me anything.

NuttBoxer says

Except that the same thing will happen in a million other scenarios due to the over-centralization of everything for majority of the population. This is literally what we've prepared for, what preppers can and will survive.

You could survive with a lot of food, in a remote area, with plenty of weaponry and ammo, and at least 2 people that can handle a weapon. If you have a year's worth of food, you damned well better know how to farm, and know people who currently are farming. You can be a slave to them. You'll be pulling a plow with an ox or a horse, so hopefully you are handy in making an old style plow. You will be weeding, as well. Better know how to can, and have canning supplies.

It's not just merely surviving the bomb itself - fertilizer will disappear, transportation will be gone. You'll have to get a source for water, and know how to filter it (really, just sand at the bottom will do in a bucket) - you'll have to boil it as well, so you'll need to collect basically wood.

Nuclear war is kind of silly, because nobody walks out with a better life and I know psychopaths, they won't take a step back ever.

It would be like going back to 1700 for everybody. If you have stockpiles of diesel and gasoline, that's great, but you'll only be able to burn it. Both are volatile and will stop working in engines after a year or two. I'd rather just quietly contemplate my death.

Slash and Burn FTW. No need to till, you'll get at least 2 years. Alot more if you incorporate green manure, let poultry run over it every few days to shit and eat bugs and aerate the soil with scratching, and do a host of things we've only understood in the past 2 centuries.

I just read a great blog piece by some hippies who brought a few acres up in Vermont. They turned to slash and burn after trying to improve the soil organically, tilling it, etc. all failed royally. They only got a 1:1.5 return on potatoes which is absolute shit. After slash and burn, they got 1:5 and they kept it up by THEN doing the green manure, organic composting stuff. The land they had wasn't exactly Central Valley California for fertility and climate, really only 1 growing season being mountainous hardscrabble (formerly) covered in pine woods.

I'll try to uh, dig it up, heh, but I didn't bookmark it or don't remember the name.

Biggest killers following a general collapse will be malaria, and water-borne diseases like typhoid, dysentery etc., along with forest fires until basic sanitation, plumbing, and basic services are restored. Most people overprepare for the Zombie Addict Biker Hordes and forget about the shits.

Where There is No Doctor (2011 Edition)

https://warriorpublications.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/where-there-is-no-doctor-2011.pdf

This is the book to have for TEOTWAKI, and the digital copy is provided free by the author.

It goes beyond most of the popular and shitty wilderness survival books, that are basically like "Keep your broken arm as immobile as possible and walk to safety" with minimal illustrations. Illustrates the common diseases of mankind, and how to treat them with mostly 3rd world tech. This book is a must, and it's FREE. I have a hard copy to support the author.

^^^^ Outstanding!

My wife has been looking for this for a while. Thanks!

Page 21 LOL!

It goes from greed to death by diarrhea haha...

I think I'll buy this too!

AmericanKulak says

This book is a must, and it's FREE

Glowing recommendation! I'll check it out right now. If it's worthwhile I'll definitely add it to my hard copy collection. If the power goes out, my PDFs ain't worth a damn!

Shaman says

I figure any disaster would require me to get out of the city area, so stockpiling food or gear wouldn’t gain me anything.

Unless it was also done at a location outside the city...

richwicks says

You could survive with a lot of food, in a remote area, with plenty of weaponry and ammo, and at least 2 people that can handle a weapon. If you have a year's worth of food, you damned well better know how to farm, and know people who currently are farming. You can be a slave to them. You'll be pulling a plow with an ox or a horse, so hopefully you are handy in making an old style plow. You will be weeding, as well. Better know how to can, and have canning supplies.

My survival location has about 50 people committed to it. Several streams on the property. Gardening has been started. Chickens, sheep, cows all there already. I have ammo, toiletries, some food, and rations for about three months(or six?) for my family. As well as site is stocked with a years worth of food per member. I have a 9mm, 12 gauge, and will soon have a rifle that shoots .300 blackout. There are several additional shotguns and rifles at the location, and lots of ammo.

They do plan to survive even nuclear fallout, and run by ex-military, but I am a bit skeptical on that point as nuclear winter fucks all of us, almost no matter what. But I don't see happening as even the sociopaths would die.

NuttBoxer says

They do plan to survive even nuclear fallout, and run by ex-military, but I am a bit skeptical on that point as nuclear winter fucks all of us, almost no matter what. But I don't see happening as even the sociopaths would die.

Well, supposedly we have less than 48 hours left (!) if I'm to believe what Shaman posted, and I don't.

If the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant blows up, it will be like the Nordstream blowing up - nobody is going to believe Russia did it. Even if the US attacked Russia with a nuclear weapon or two after the fact, I don't think Russia would respond. I think Russia would just state "clearly the world can see the United States has gone insane, so the entire world must decapitate the United States".

And the world would agree because clearly it's run by insane people. Very clearly.

The US state department, the MIC, and the intelligence agencies has been such a bunch of fucking assholes in the last 20 years, that it won't be hard to get the ENTIRE planet to gang up on them, including Canada and Mexico.

Instead of Russia responding with a nuclear strike, I think it would make a lot more sense for them to get the ENTIRE REST of the world to kill off all of our ruling class, and I don't think common Americans would even try to stop them. It was our nation that created the "pandemic" after all. It's our nation that cut off ALL OF EUROPE from Russian energy. It's our nation that has been blowing up the Middle East for 20 years. It's our nation that uses the world's reserve currency as a weapon, and keeps diluting it constantly. It's our nation that started the Ukrainian war with the 2014 coup.

Everything I know about geopolitics, everybody in REAL POWER knows. Everybody. Angela Merkel knows the US overthrew Ukraine, even though she's out of power. Xi Jinping knows. Fumio Kishida knows, Narendra Modi knows. Modi is forced to ally himself with the Russians BTW - because without Russian fertilizer and energy, India will have a famine. He can't afford to have Russia become a nuclear wasteland.

Maybe this is the plan: make a one world government by making a singular threat - not space aliens, the United States.

In any nuclear exchange, the west coast is fucked due to fallout patterns, unless there are massive rain storms over the pacific.

IIRC, the last serious assessment of the outcome of nuclear war was conducted under Eisenhower in the late 1950's. This was an assessment based on 1/10 of the current weapons stockpile. The results were so horrifying in terms of deaths (IIRC over 50% of the US population in the first year alone), that no other studies were done thereafter.

I think that Ike's farewell address was influenced by what he learned in that study; namely, that if these weapons are ever to be used, they would eliminate human civilization and probably throw us back to the condition of the human race 70,000 years ago in the aftermath of the Toba mega eruption, where it's estimated that less than 1,000 breeding pairs of humans survived - that is why humans, among all the primates, have the least genetic diversity.

Shaman says

This is something a friend forwarded to me. No real confidence in it.
But who knows? I’m going to Havasu on the 5th, so not being in LA for any potential nuclear war seems like a good plan. Although I did book this trip a couple weeks ago.

I checked, it was sunny and nice in Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine. How strange it wasn't bombed.

It's 04:11 AM as I type this, July 5th in Ukraine. It's July 4th, 18:11 in Commie Fornia, USA.

I suggest you remove your source, as a "source" but there is like 16 hours of bullshit to go through.. Maybe the operation had a hiccup, but maybe this was just bullshit. Russia controls this plant now, the only way to bomb it is from the air now, or explosives left behind.

richwicks says

Well, supposedly we have less than 48 hours left (!) if I'm to believe what Shaman posted, and I don't.

Russia has pulled out their troops from the area, very recently. There was talk of this being done before at another nuclear plant. I wouldn't put it past any of them(Putin, Biden, Zelensky) to stage a nuclear accident to gain power.

It’s probably woo, but just because something has never happened doesn’t mean it won’t ever happen, or couldn’t happen tomorrow.
I don’t trust the people who run the world. Satanist pedophiles, all of them.
They’d initiate WWIII convinced in their own invincibility.

Shaman says

It’s probably woo, but just because something has never happened doesn’t mean it won’t ever happen, or couldn’t happen tomorrow.
I don’t trust the people who run the world. Satanist pedophiles, all of them.
They’d initiate WWIII convinced in their own invincibility.

Consider the mentality of somebody who would make a post in an attempt to incite panic. Somewhere out there there's some fucking bastard cunt asshole out there that posted this:



So, is this just some twat kid, or some fucker in the intelligence agencies?

One thing I've noticed over many years, is normally the average person is pretty decent, but as soon as it's government, it's a twat.

If the internet says it’s sunny outside I usually check for myself and more often than not it’s raining!

I don’t believe most of what I see on the internet these days.
It’s usually fake or some troll winding up people. And then all the grifters join in with decode intel comm videos all trying to sell something from cable tv subscriptions to water filters to lost alien technology to scratch cards. And then their follow grifters endorse and approve as if this somehow proves it is all true. And then more bots appear to upvote or down vote and around and around we go in circles getting absolutely nowhere.

Nothing has happened. No zombie apocalypse, alien invasion, martial law military coup, stock market collapse (in fact Nasdaq 100 is at a yearly high). Nothing.

And yet people still peddle and believe in rumours that something is gonna happen “soon” but don’t ask them when “soon” is. I can understand why they get sucked down into these rabbit holes because so much of what is happening in the world today doesn’t make sense. I could offer explanations but I haven’t got any proof and I’d probably just be digging another hole (for myself mostly!)

Critical thinkers (like myself ;-) though I have been fooled before) just look at the track record of all these claims and see how most of the population suffer from attention deficit disorder. They totally forget what bs they believed in 6 months ago only focusing on this weeks bs. One example is where King Charles III was alleged to have been executed a long time ago yet yesterday he enjoyed his 2nd Coronation as King of Scotland. No doubt true believers will say all of this is a ruse and it was a masked man, avatar, cgi, robot, lizard that got crowned because somehow that’s part of the plan to wake people up.

It doesn’t matter to me if there is a hidden war going on in the background with countless parties spreading misinformation and counter disinformation, with 1000’s of so called patriot truthers repeating (often incorrectly) anything that pops up in their social media feeds. I can’t verify anything, I won’t act on anything. It’s a waste of my time to follow any of it. I will just live my life and prepare for any eventuality as best I can.

charlie303 says

It doesn’t matter to me if there is a hidden war going on in the background with countless parties spreading misinformation and counter disinformation, with 1000’s of so called patriot truthers repeating (often incorrectly) anything that pops up in their social media feeds.

THIS bothers me.

The point of the internet is global communication to end war, to end frauds, to stop propaganda.

But there are people who do the exact opposite, do everything in their power to do it. Why? Conflict is not good for society, reduction of conflict is.

I know there's assholes out there that want to start a war for NO OTHER REASON than they want to sell weapons. I think the problem is that your average "normal" person simply doesn't comprehend what a sociopath really is.

We just went through a fake pandemic, and people still aren't aware of what sociopaths are in power. They happily pushed a bunch of experimental vaccines into arms, and what has that done? Even the sociopaths don't know, and they don't care, but underneath that of the "banality of evil", is a reason for it. I wonder what just happened? Global experimentation? Population reduction? It couldn't have just been about selling worthless vaccines that didn't work, if they wanted to do that, they could have just injected everybody with saline.

Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully. I meant there is nothing I can do, nothing I can prove and so I can’t let it concern me too much.
I’m absolutely horrified that people took the jab but to this day they won’t change their beliefs. Many are still lining up for more shots and many will stay that way until the day they die. I could show them all the threads on Patrick.net about the vaccine and all they would do is accuse me of being a flat earther. Hard experience has shown me that I’m not going to change anybody’s view and in fact I’m just creating stress and problems for myself.
I understand and agree with your points about sociopaths and the elites who hold us in contempt. I would love to end global war and I am concerned about a nuclear World War 3. I just see the internet as causing just as many problems as it was meant to solve.
And there’s little I can do about that. I’m not getting lost though in some impotent, black pilled depression. I’m just focusing on my own life. I’m as ready as I’ll ever be for monumental change.

charlie303 says

Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully. I meant there is nothing I can do, nothing I can prove and so I can’t let it concern me too much.

Well, this may be the difference, I feel partially responsible for this mess. I was at CableLabs in 1995. If you have a DOCSIS cable modem, SOME of my work may be in that.

I watch what is going on carefully. I was APPALLED when the Bush administration was able to lie us into Iraq, but the Internet was still "fairly new" then but now everybody is on it. There's considerable pushback against agendas, companies that we helped created now push for the wars we wanted to prevent, they push censorship. That blindsided me, I never saw that happening, I thought Google was going to be an adversary to the corporate mass media, not cooperate with it. How naive I was, but Yandex popped up. Many others.

charlie303 says

all they would do is accuse me of being a flat earther.

And that's the purpose of that psy-op. They do not exist as a real group. I've been on the Internet since 1989, people who believed (supposedly) in the flat earth didn't show up until 2010 or so. I've seen ALL sorts of crazies, but not them. 99.9% of them aren't serious. They are like the Church of the Subgenius, which exists just to make fun of religion. The people who are "members" will SWEAR UP AND DOWN they believe in it as a REAL religion, but they don't.



The point of the flat earth psy-op is to get people to associate any ACTUAL government conspiracy, with a ridiculous one. "Oh, you don't think vaccines are safe effective? You must be crazy!"

charlie303 says

Hard experience has shown me that I’m not going to change anybody’s view and in fact I’m just creating stress and problems for myself.

Oh no, I disagree. Our society is wildly different than it was 40 years ago. There's still the cows and sheep of society today, but 40 years ago, that's practically all there was - and this is not because they were stupid, it was just impossible to access information.

Stress is in your mind. You allow yourself to feel it, but I'll warn you, if you just eliminate it, it's like removing your ability to feel pain. Pain warns you about doing things that will harm you. I don't have any stress.

charlie303 says

I understand and agree with your points about sociopaths and the elites who hold us in contempt. I would love to end global war and I am concerned about a nuclear World War 3.

We have been in World War 3 for a long time, but it won't go nuclear. Nuclear war doesn't advantage anybody, and for that reason alone, it will never be done.

The fear of war is used to control the population. "Back up your government or bad things will happen, NOT FROM US, of course, from outside forces..."

charlie303 says

I just see the internet as causing just as many problems as it was meant to solve.

It's a sorting thing. It solves a lot of problems, but it creates others for those that allow it to control them.

Take this transgender nonsense for example - as cruel as this sounds, it's merely a voluntary eugenics program.

I know we're going through growing pains, but democratization of information is essential to human development.

charlie303 says

And there’s little I can do about that. I’m not getting lost though in some impotent, black pilled depression. I’m just focusing on my own life. I’m as ready as I’ll ever be for monumental change.

Black pill is temporary. First you're oblivious, then you are lost and confused, then you understand how dark it is (that's the black pill) then you start coming out of it and coming up with solutions on how to fix the problem.

The country itself is in this low state right now. I was there at least 15 years ago. There ARE solutions, but the first step in fixing a problem is showing there's a problem.

We have a senile, pedophile, that wasn't elected as "president" with a crackwhore son. I can laugh at this, but many people don't. I don't regard Biden as any different at all to Obama or George W. Bush. They are puppets. I saw this over 15 years ago when FEW people did. It didn't matter who we elected, if Al Gore was president in 2000 to 2004, we would still have gone to war with Iraq - just different lies to do it. It would have been about "humanitarian reasons" - "We supported Hussein in the 1980's, and we have a MORAL OBLIGATION to repair that mistake" or some other nonsense.

This is just clown world to me. It was funny 2 years ago, and I'm no longer laughing. I wish society would catch up to me, until they do, we're stuck with this shitty government.

charlie303 says

Nothing has happened. No zombie apocalypse, alien invasion, martial law military coup, stock market collapse (in fact Nasdaq 100 is at a yearly high). Nothing

Nothing yet.

Did you ever think our government, in concert with many governments all over the world, would try to make us take a potentially fatal shot every four months or we couldn't work or travel? I never guessed that one. Stock market collapse is mild by comparison.

richwicks says

I know there's assholes

You mean, "there're assholes".

Onvacation says

richwicks says

I know there's assholes

You mean, "there're assholes".

Ugh, yes, but I gave up being a grammar Nazi in my 20's. I used to be obsessed with it. I'm NOT fixing my post.

Just my feeble attempt at being funny.

Onvacation says

Just my feeble attempt at being funny.

Haha, I'm not offended. You're correct, but I will display my error.

richwicks says

The point of the internet is global communication to end war, to end frauds, to stop propaganda.

The original purpose of the Internet was an unstoppable comm system in case of nuclear war. The things you mention are unfortunate (from governments pov) side effects.

The internet may usher in a new age of unprecedented world freedom or be the mechanism that enslaves us all.

Time tells truths that now will never know.

richwicks says

Consider the mentality of somebody who would make a post in an attempt to incite panic. Somewhere out there there's some fucking bastard cunt asshole out there that posted this:

I actually think posts like this are SUPER important. Something came out in the past year about a covid shot manufacturing plant being the target of a false flag attack. Never happened. Similarly I think we remember the small-pox vials that went missing from a university. Myself and a LOT of other people bought the natural cure for smallpox(a flower tincture). Never happened either.

But here's my point. If we're on to them from the get-go, do they abandon the plan because they've lose the element of surprise and credibility? Definitely possible. Surveillance works both ways, and I'd rather have someone calling out every possible false flag, and not one ever happen, then everyone asleep at the wheel, and get taken the way alot of us did on 9/11, during the Scamdemic, etc.