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South Africans made the wrong decision


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2023 Aug 1, 5:21pm   2,483 views  42 comments

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They should have forcibly seperated into a non-Black state instead of dismantling Apartheid.

I say non-Black because 99% of the Asians (implying Pakis and Indians in non-NA English) and Chinese would have gone to the White State, Oranjstaat or Cape State or whatever.

Instead of dealing with genocidal calls from the EFF and mass murder, they would only face whinging for handouts of cash to Black South Africa or the Bantustans and whinging for more land. Black SA would be a shithole, despite mines and farmland and tons of modern infrastructure rapidly deteriorating (like the rest of post-colonial Africa), and it would all be blamed on them, but they would be physically and likely economically safe.

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1   Patrick   2023 Aug 1, 5:46pm  

Yes, they should have done that.

Now the whole country is descending into hell.
2   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2023 Aug 1, 6:29pm  

Patrick says

Yes, they should have done that.

Now the whole country is descending into hell.


The SA corporate elites would have lost a lot of mines, farmland and industry tho.
3   Ceffer   2023 Aug 1, 6:33pm  

Better to get your families out with their lives. I talked with a Rwanda survivor who wrote a book about it, because she said that nothing she read was even close to the experience of the farmers who were murdered, raped and displaced. She had PSTD from relatives murdered and female relatives raped. She thinks the extent and nature of the atrocities were covered up for politics.
4   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2023 Aug 1, 7:03pm  

Ceffer says

Better to get your families out with their lives. I talked with a Rwanda survivor who wrote a book about it, because she said that nothing she read was even close to the experience of the farmers who were murdered, raped and displaced. She had PSTD from relatives murdered and female relatives raped. She thinks the extent and nature of the atrocities were covered up for politics.


That's coming to an American neighborhood near you, too.
5   stereotomy   2023 Aug 1, 7:29pm  

I got my reload press and a few 12 gauge shotguns. Come 'n get 'em.
13   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2023 Aug 8, 11:21am  

My sympathy has limits. The white men of SA are so neutered that they don’t fight back and they excuse the behavior after the fact, even when it happens to their own wife and children.

That’s just sad. Honestly white Africans need to leave that continent, start over elsewhere.

America is nothing close to this. If you think any of the solid red states will bend over to anyone, you have another thing coming. I just had a three week road trip with the wife and went to one of the most rural places in the country. I was uplifted by what I saw and it’s not just the old people. It’s their kids too…and there’s lots of them. Impressive really.

Jason Aldean’s song is correct.
14   DhammaStep   2023 Aug 8, 1:37pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Honestly white Africans need to leave that continent, start over elsewhere

Not just the whites but basically everyone not black. I knew a Pakistani car import/export dealer. He used to import used Japanese cars from Yokohama to various African countries. He moved from South Africa because one of his employees informed some robbers about a cash sale in USD he was doing that day. They almost killed him and his friend because the idiot robbers waited until after they deposited the money in the bank to rob them. After that the Pakistani guy was done, he said there was basically no point doing business with people that will betray you for a quick payday.

This is a probably a commonplace story in South Africa now. All of their industries are collapsing and leaving because its simply not worth doing the business, just similar to some liberal cities in the US now. When South African blacks start crying about how their cars don't work anymore and they don't have a clue to fix it, I'm going to let out a hearty laugh.
15   Ceffer   2023 Aug 8, 1:58pm  

Forebrains come in handy. Everybody should have one.
16   richwicks   2023 Aug 8, 2:07pm  

DhammaStep says

This is a probably a commonplace story in South Africa now. All of their industries are collapsing and leaving because its simply not worth doing the business, just similar to some liberal cities in the US now. When South African blacks start crying about how their cars don't work anymore and they don't have a clue to fix it, I'm going to let out a hearty laugh.


I want to tell you what is going on in S. Africa. Some group is purposely destroying the country. As they destroy it, they will buy up properties and assets. When they have acquired enough, they will reverse the policies, and strictly enforce law and order, even brutality if needed - brutality that is WELL beyond apartheid if needed, to profit off from the assets they bought.

The media will say nothing about it. Does our media report what is going on in Somalia, Libya? Liberia? Algiers? Nobody will mention it.

This is an ancient scam. It's so fucking ancient it's hard to imagine that NOBODY in the country knows the scam.

Target a place, reduce police, increase chaos, make a total fucking nightmare shithole, force people to sell and flee, buy everything up, re-introduce police, like that's never seen before, make a shitload of money.
17   Patrick   2023 Aug 8, 2:27pm  

DhammaStep says

I knew a Pakistani car import/export dealer. He used to import used Japanese cars from Yokohama to various African countries. He moved from South Africa because one of his employees informed some robbers about a cash sale in USD he was doing that day.


You know it's bad when the Pakis can't handle the level of corruption and violence.
18   stereotomy   2023 Aug 8, 2:40pm  

richwicks says

This is an ancient scam. It's so fucking ancient it's hard to imagine that NOBODY in the country knows the scam.

Target a place, reduce police, increase chaos, make a total fucking nightmare shithole, force people to sell and flee, buy everything up, re-introduce police, like that's never seen before, make a shitload of money.

South Africa is incredibly rich in terms of physical resources. I agree that this is the plan. Drive out the original owners/stakeholders and then swoop in to claim the abandoned wealth.

The commies did it before, and now they're doing it to South Africa. Check back in 30 years to see how it's going (hint - not well).
19   RC2006   2023 Aug 8, 3:40pm  

Every city, country, once they hit a certain % goes to shit.
20   HeadSet   2023 Aug 8, 4:58pm  

richwicks says

Target a place, reduce police, increase chaos, make a total fucking nightmare shithole, force people to sell and flee, buy everything up, re-introduce police, like that's never seen before, make a shitload of money.

Are you taking new investors, or is that a closed fund?
21   Misc   2023 Aug 9, 11:16am  

Funny, that idea didn't work out so well in Zimbabwe.
22   stereotomy   2023 Aug 9, 11:34am  

Misc says

Funny, that idea didn't work out so well in Zimbabwe.

It's only been about 1 or 2 generations. Once generation after generation has experienced nothing but misery, then the Chinese move in to fix it.
24   Patrick   2023 Aug 9, 11:52am  

https://twitter.com/Abrachicken/status/1688640306445426689


August 3: Duwayne Smith murdered in front of his children. His wife was shot in the back and seriously injured.
August 2: Dr. Carel Nel was murdered on his farm in Biesiesvlei, North West.
July 30: Theo Bekker’s throat was slit open. He died on the scene and his wife Marlinda was beaten and hospitalized.
July 28: Mr. Viljoen was brutally attacked on his Curuland farm and hospitalized.
July 25: Pietie Nel was overpowered on his farm by five armed attackers.
July 22: Mike Pattinson (67) was found with multiple wounds on Summerslie farm.
25   Ceffer   2023 Aug 9, 12:00pm  

Degenerating back to the mean of warlords and witch doctors. Then, they will try to import back again brain bugs to prop up the technology and farms crumbling back to stone age mud hut status.

There was some YouTube video about Chinese in Africa. The Chinese men had black mistresses, but they made vicious fun of the African men for their foolishness and ineptitude. Some of the African men looked at them like they were ready to chop them up with machetes, they knew they were being mocked.
26   Patrick   2023 Aug 9, 5:56pm  

Yes, there was a movie explaining a lot of that, "Empire of Dust":

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2148945/

I thought it was worth watching, even if slow at times.
27   richwicks   2023 Aug 9, 6:12pm  

HeadSet says

richwicks says


Target a place, reduce police, increase chaos, make a total fucking nightmare shithole, force people to sell and flee, buy everything up, re-introduce police, like that's never seen before, make a shitload of money.

Are you taking new investors, or is that a closed fund?


It's nothing to joke about. They're doing it to the United States as well.

In the US, it's Jewish mafia. Because they are Jewish and "muh holocaust" - if you DARE to talk about it, you are completely vilified. That's why there's all this constant stupid propaganda about the holocaust. That's why there's this FICTION of Jewish bodies being turned into soap and lampshades, we hear even today constant unrelenting atrocity propaganda. If you say anything critical of any Jewish person or group of Jewish criminals, it's just like criticizing Obama "oh, you just hate black people".

That's the point of this "intersectionality" bullshit, and grievance studies. The reason a black lesbian Beatlejuice was the mayor of Chicago is precisely because she was AWFUL, and but if you criticized Lori Lightfoot, it was because you hate black women and/or lesbians.

The worst person you can ever put into a position of power is somebody you can't criticize.
28   GNL   2023 Aug 9, 6:25pm  

richwicks says


It's nothing to joke about. They're doing it to the United States as well.

In the US, it's Jewish mafia. Because they are Jewish and "muh holocaust" - if you DARE to talk about it, you are completely vilified. That's why there's all this constant stupid propaganda about the holocaust. That's why there's this FICTION of Jewish bodies being turned into soap and lampshades, we hear even today constant unrelenting atrocity propaganda. If you say anything critical of any Jewish person or group of Jewish criminals, it's just like criticizing Obama "oh, you just hate black people".

That's the point of this "intersectionality" bullshit, and grievance studies. The reason a black lesbian Beatlejuice was the mayor of Chicago is precisely because she was AWFUL, and but if you criticized Lori Lightfoot, it was because you hate black women and/or lesbians.

The worst person you can ever put into a position of power is somebody you can't criticize.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're one of the best commenters here. Some things need to be said over and over and over again. You're a broken record but, that ain't a bad thing if you're hitting the nail on the head every time...which you are doing. IMO.
29   AmericanKulak   2023 Aug 9, 6:53pm  

richwicks says


In the US, it's Jewish mafia

No, it's the Old Yankee Mafia. They gave up their belief in God, but retained the belief that they were the Elect.

They've always been jealous of European Aristocrats.

They killed a President, and will launch 5 sets of criminal charges against him, they will tear apart the system to retain power.

They've covered up the BIGGEST CRIME IN US HISTORY that almost nobody heard of: The sterilization of millions on mostly non-criminal girls, mostly White and poor.

This is because the Eugenics People were the same people in the OSS, the same running the CIA, the same running the Multinationals.

There's no way a Sears Boardmember and President of Chicago Edison didn't know his kid wasn't building bombs in the NYC Townhouse he rented from him.

Robert Barnes has the goods on them.
30   Patrick   2023 Aug 9, 6:55pm  

Hey, there is equal opportunity if you're WASP or Jewish.

I remember some Latin American guy (very rich himself) complaining that you just can't get the best jobs on Wall Street if you're not part of the old WASP elite or Jewish. Either one works, but you have to belong to one of them.
31   AmericanKulak   2023 Aug 9, 6:57pm  

Frankly, @Patrick, they've largely merged.

Remember when Orwell talked about the inner party?

The Elect recognized the some Ashkenazi had great mental powers and wealth, and merged with them.

JP Morgan never lived to see the Fed Reserve, but his Jewish Lieutenant did. The biggest shareholder in the Fed Reserve is Deutsche Bank and other German/EU Banks have a huge share.

People also don't realize that Marx and Engles was just a few of the Hegelians, followers of Hegel, divided into "Left" and "Right" Hegelians. Almost all of them were anti-religious and Socialist, taking their inspiration from Babeuf, Proudhon, and Plato's Philosopher "King" (really Oligarchical class). Marx simply had the most popular of all their works, and guys like Stirner are less heard of. Marx didn't even found the First International, he joined it later; it was created by others.

Just like the Frankfurt School bastards were ALL intellectual hiers of an Italian Marxist who literally coined "Cultural Marxism", Antonio Gramsci.
32   richwicks   2023 Aug 9, 7:00pm  

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

In the US, it's Jewish mafia.

No, it's the Old Yankee Mafia.

They killed a President, and will launch 5 sets of criminal charges against


Here me out, mafias frequently work together. The assassination of JFK was in part because of his refusal to allow Israel to have the nuclear bomb. They found out Dimona was making nuclear weapons in the 1960s based on isotopes they found there in plants, literal plants, like grass and shrubs. But the CIA wanted JFK dead too, in part because he wasn't doing what Israel wanted, but also he was making waves and threatening to get rid of the CIA. Mafia wanted him dead because JFK was cracking down on that, and the mob is what got JFK elected, Nixon actually won.

AmericanKulak says

They've covered up the BIGGEST CRIME IN US HISTORY that almost nobody heard of: The sterilization of millions on mostly non-criminal girls, mostly White and poor.


I hadn't heard of this. Tell me more.

AmericanKulak says

This is because the Eugenics People were the same people in the OSS, the same running the CIA, the same running the Multinationals.


Most people in a conspiracy don't know they are in a conspiracy. All they know if that they have an NDA or possibly a security clearance, and they're not allowed to talk about it or there will be consequences. Can't even ask question, follow orders do your job.

Who is at the top? I think most people that are viewed as "the top" aren't actually.
33   Patrick   2023 Aug 9, 7:00pm  

The upper classes have always intermarried.

The current Lord Rothschild is half Anglo and married the granddaughter of a rich Canadian Anglo.
34   Patrick   2023 Aug 9, 7:02pm  

And iirc, there is an exemption in Jewish law specifically allowing a Jew to marry a non-Jewish king or queen.
35   AmericanKulak   2023 Aug 9, 7:05pm  

richwicks says


Here me out, mafias frequently work together. The assassination of JFK was in part because of his refusal to allow Israel to have the nuclear bomb

Agreed on the former, but no way JFK was asassinated by Israel. That's an example of "There was some static with Jews, therefore Jews confirmation bias seeking." JFK refused to get into Vietnam and was beginning to disempower the CIA and the Deep after they tried to trap him into providing air support for the Bay of Pigs, whereas before it started they assured him the Invasion wouldn't need overt US Support in order to get him to agree to Green Light it. RFK thought his brother had been entrapped too. He also pissed off the Cubans, and the Kennedys started to backstab the Mafia that helped him get elected and had always helped the Kennedy's political life.

LBJ didn't like that the "New Liberals" were undermining his Political Gang control back in Texas, that not intervening Vietnam would cost him millions in unrealized income, LBJ already employed hitmen against rivals and blackmailers, and he was seen as very controllable and aligned with the Deep State.

LBJ's personal assistant, a guy named Wallace, assaulted a man in broad daylight on a golfcourse and at that point was the only Texan in history to receive probation for a naked, unprovoked assault on an unarmed man. LBJ's sister was a druggy and a slut, and the guy beaten was trying to leverage it for financial help.

Stone's book is excellent on this.
36   Patrick   2023 Aug 9, 7:08pm  

I was always amazed that it was never publicly said in the press that LBJ had the means, motive, and opportunity.
37   AmericanKulak   2023 Aug 9, 7:13pm  

Patrick says


I was always amazed that it was never publicly said in the press that LBJ had the means, motive, and opportunity.

This is the book!
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Killed-Kennedy-Against-ebook/dp/B00MSYV0VO/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3M3TZQNGCM6T2&keywords=jfk+roger+stone&qid=1691633650&sprefix=jfk+roger+sto%2Caps%2C230&sr=8-1

I read it a long time ago and I have it again, will be doing a re-read.

The Jewish Mafia connection, that's the assassination of Oswald to shut him up, carried out by Jack "Ruby" Rubenstein, who was affiliated with Marcello and Meyer Lansky, who were pissed at Kennedy for A) Not returning their Havana Gambling operations by invading Cuba and B) Allowing RFK to harass them.
38   richwicks   2023 Aug 9, 7:21pm  

AmericanKulak says

Agreed on the former, but no way JFK was asassinated by Israel. That's an example of "There was some static with Jews, therefore Jews confirmation bias seeking." JFK refused to get into Vietnam and was beginning to disempower the CIA and the Deep after they tried to trap him into providing air support for the Bay of Pigs


OK, there's not a "single" reason JFK was assassinated. We're always pushed to think there's a single reason for anything. There were MULTIPLE reasons to kill him, and he was killed for all those reasons. There's not a single reason the US went to war in Iraq, there's multiple reasons. Same with Ukraine.

Multiple groups work together to achieve multiple goals by doing a single thing. That's what happened.
39   stereotomy   2023 Aug 9, 9:37pm  

I've read "The Making of the Atomic Bomb" as well as "Dark Sun," both excellent reads by Richard Rhodes. In "Dark Sun," the joint chiefs were berating JFK to launch WWIII over the Cuban Missile Crisis.

In addition to the shipping embargo, the USN forced Soviet subs in the area to surface, which by itself is considered an act of war. After one of these meetings with the joint chiefs, JFK said "These guys are crazy."

Curtis LeMay, the architect of SAC, believed until the day he died that the US "lost" the crisis by not preemptively nuking the USSR.
40   Ceffer   2023 Aug 9, 11:28pm  

stereotomy says

After one of these meetings with the joint chiefs, JFK said "These guys are crazy."

AND, they're STILL crazy.

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