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2017 Nov 30, 6:21pm   7,936 views  110 comments

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Think I'm nuts? It's the official platform of SPD:

The SPD leaders, whose party is lagging Merkel’s Christian Democrats in the polls by 15 percentage points, said Germany would have to nearly double current defense spending from 37 billion euros to meet the NATO target. That would make it the largest military power in Europe - a goal they said “no one could want” given Germany’s Nazi history.

Instead, they said, Germany should focus on building a strong European defense union and, ultimately, a European army - a stance that may resonate with a deeply pacifist German public that remains skeptical of military engagements.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election-military-spd/germanys-spd-rejects-nato-2-percent-defense-spending-target-idUSKBN1AM001
Keep in mind, they laughed at Churchill, proudly declaring he was a warmongering eccentric, if not downright delusional, literally right up until the Sudentenland. And all the Liberals of the day claimed "Peace in Our Time."

We really should be thinking about how to divide Germany into Saxony, Prussia, Bavaria, Hannover, etc.and if Morganthau was right all along.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Plan
#Germany #FourthReich #EUArmy

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2   mell   2017 Nov 30, 8:18pm  

I actually would welcome a European army disconnected from the NATO which has done quite a few blunders, and represent European goals. However it would need to be a nationalistic army focused on the best for the autochthon Europeans, i.e. white christians of each country, and not an army that allows its countries to be flooded with immigrants instead of protecting them. Maybe led by Nigel Farage ;) In a way the US should take more immigrants since US foreign policy (Boosh and Obummer mostly) has caused a lot of these immigrant streams by destabilizing the middle east. Europe has been taking the brunt due to its cucked Eurocrats/Eurocunts betraying their people.
3   Patrick   2017 Nov 30, 9:36pm  

The irony is that while Germany no longer has any significant number of Nazis, they are now doing a mass import of an ideology, Islam, that is pretty damn similar to Naziism.
4   Strategist   2017 Nov 30, 11:26pm  

rando says
The irony is that while Germany no longer has any significant number of Nazis, they are now doing a mass import of an ideology, Islam, that is pretty damn similar to Naziism.


The Islamists are a lot worse. The Nazis did not slaughter their own kind, the Islamists slaughter their own kind without hesitation.
8   curious2   2018 Oct 4, 7:56pm  

Two Presidents in a row have advocated more military spending by other countries, including Germany and Japan. That went badly in the past. I would rather see them spend less. Ideally, I would like to see them pay the USA for American protection instead of building up their own military budgets.
9   HeadSet   2018 Oct 4, 8:07pm  

curious2 says
Two Presidents in a row have advocated more military spending by other countries, including Germany and Japan. That went badly in the past. I would rather see them spend less. Ideally, I would like to see them pay the USA for American protection instead of building up their own military budgets.


Except that they do not pay, they get US protection for free.
10   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2018 Oct 4, 9:01pm  

HeadSet says
Except that they do not pay, they get US protection for free.


This.

And pipsqueak nations have been joining that may get us dragged into a war doing something stupid. Why have NATO anymore when Germany is going to get it's energy from Russia?

If that's okay then obviously they aren't still a threat, right? Ergo fuck NATO lets get out except for agreements with bigger countries and those which pull their weight financially.
11   curious2   2018 Oct 4, 10:15pm  

HeadSet says
curious2 says
Two Presidents in a row have advocated more military spending by other countries, including Germany and Japan. That went badly in the past. I would rather see them spend less. Ideally, I would like to see them pay the USA for American protection instead of building up their own military budgets.


Except that they do not pay, they get US protection for free.


Therein lies an opportunity to negotiate a better deal. If the merchants of war have their way, the USA will demand other countries increase their military (procurement) spending. That would mean encouraging Germany and Japan to re-arm, as if history had nothing to say about what could possibly go wrong. Better to negotiate for more control over their foreign policy and defense, even if they pay only a fraction.

Consider what will happen when France and Belgium become 20% Muslim, which will happen in a generation. I would rather see them disarm instead of turning over a huge arsenal to Islamic control. The KSA plan seems to be to hijack NATO countries from inside, pumping Sunnis into NATO countries. I would like to see the USA thwart that plan.
12   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 4, 10:53pm  

just_dregalicious says
And pipsqueak nations have been joining that may get us dragged into a war doing something stupid. Why have NATO anymore when Germany is going to get it's energy from Russia?


Inviting the Baltic States into NATO was stupid. Lots of added risk, no added benefit. The only thing economically or military they could contribute is a sack of potatoes and maybe 5 border guards.

They also pull plenty of stunts against their Russian minority that could offer an excuse for intervention. And then we'd have to respond with full force, instead of say, a naval blockade of the Russian Baltic, Arctic and Black Seas.
13   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 4, 11:33pm  

curious2 says
Consider what will happen when France and Belgium become 20% Muslim, which will happen in a generation. I would rather see them disarm instead of turning over a huge arsenal to Islamic control. The KSA plan seems to be to hijack NATO countries from inside, pumping Sunnis into NATO countries. I would like to see the USA thwart that plan.


The first NATO Secretary General, Lord Ismay, stated the organization's goal was "to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down".

Some other attempts to revise his idea:
http://smallwarsjournal.com/blog/lord-ismay-restated

Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, the Germans disarmed, and provide onsite forces for eventually necessary Reconquista
14   steverbeaver   2018 Oct 5, 12:11am  

I don't see any reason why Germans or other defeated foes shouldn't be able to re-arm and be proud of themselves, they should be encouraged to do so. The only stipulation I have for this to happen is that the individual citizens shall be armed and affirmed right to bear.
15   bob2356   2018 Oct 5, 5:13am  

Strategist says
replaced by a secular democratic Germany


someone else says
 
 

The irony is that while Germany no longer has any significant number of Nazis, they are now doing a mass import of an ideology, Islam, that is pretty damn similar to Naziism.


Funny stuff today. Germany was secular democratic Germany in 1932. Anyone that thinks the right can't rise again is a fool. Russia is doing everything they can to expand the far right all over Europpe and the US. Alternative for Germany and National Front are directly and openly supported by Russia with both funding and operations. Other parties like Golden Dawn and Swedish Democrats are more covertly funded but wouldn't be more than a minor fringe without the Russians. When the Berlin wall collapsed Shultz (it may have been Haig) said that with the fall of communism eastern Europe can return to it's true destiny, fascism

Go read up on some of Putin's russian language speeches. or about the Eurasia plan on the russian destiny of control from the pacific to the atlantic. Read the currently popular (as in putin approved) writers in russia promoting fascism (rebranded as populism), protecting the purity of russia, the threat of the decadent homosexual west. Much of which is directly from the ideas and writings of schultz who was hitlers chief nazi propagandist. Ideas sometimes seen right here on patnet quoted by the right wing contingent as populist without a clue where they originated. .A recent book called The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America: Timothy Snyder would be a good read for the few people left who actually are interested in thinking rather than simply being told what to think and believe.

Putin has to have ideological war against the west. He is the leading kleptocrat in at totally kleptocracy society. External enemies and nationalism are the only way to keep the people distracted. That playbook never changes. The fourth world war is being fought in cyberspace right now and Russia is winning. A bunch of raggedy ass refuges are the least of the worries in Europe.
16   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 5, 12:41pm  

bob2356 says
Anyone that thinks the right can't rise again is a fool.


It's a distant chance, if the Postmodernist Left doesn't alter their policy in the face of democracy.

Germany could have also turned communist, since the first major Putsch was Communist - also in Bavaria. The Bavarian Soviet. However, the outcome was that the Communists came to regard the Socialists as traitors, therefore preventing a Grand Left alliance from preventing Hitler and his alliances with the Far Right from dominating the Reichtag later.

That being said, AfD takes Jews. DUP loves Israel. Orban and Bibi are buddies.

In reality, the Populist Right in power is likely to restrict migrants, deport violent rapefugees, and roll back some Neoliberal/Socialist economic policy.
17   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Oct 5, 12:48pm  

bob2356 says
Russia is doing everything they can to expand the far right all over Europpe and the US.

They don't want to spread the alt right. They want to divide people, discredit the institutions, and create strife. They use the alt-right in the process because it's convenient. They probably also use the extreme left for the same reason. Have you listened RT recently?
18   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Oct 5, 1:01pm  

bob2356 says
A bunch of raggedy ass refuges are the least of the worries in Europe.

The idea that the spread of a retrograde ultra-conservative and anti-enlightenment cult is not possible in Europe is based on ignoring the facts.
Education is certainly not the protection people think it is. You just have to look at global warming denialists.
19   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 5, 1:03pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
They don't want to spread the alt right. They want to divide people, discredit the institutions, and create strife. They use the alt-right in the process because it's convenient. They probably also use the extreme left for the same reason. Have you listened RT recently?


The Democrat "Blame Russia" gang studiously ignores RT/Sputnik's support of BLM, Bernie, etc.

They also ignore that Galloway and other Hard Leftists have/had shows on RT/Sputnik
"Orbiting with the world with Galloway"
https://www.rt.com/shows/sputnik/

Is George Galloway on the Far Right?

How about Op-Eds with Red Ken, former Mayor of London the Far Left legendary conspiracy theorist?
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/436390-media-bias-lies-livingstone/

Look at these Far Right Propagandists being promoted by RT/Sputnik:
Slavoj Zizek
Pepe Escobar
Finian Cunningham
Peter Osborne (Radical Left Professor)
John Pilger
, for fuck's sake
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/authors/
20   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Oct 5, 1:15pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
The Democrat "Blame Russia" gang studiously ignores RT/Sputnik's support of BLM, Bernie, etc.


The establishment is reeling from the overall loss of control on the propaganda machine. You can bet Zuck is hard at work in Facebook to re-establish some form of thought control that doesn't look like blunt censorship. Hard to allow a large number of super-PACs running their own propaganda operations, while weeding out foreign operations (unless they pay the right charity to play).
22   Patrick   2024 Feb 8, 9:45am  

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/berlin-police-investigate-possibly?publication_id=268621&post_id=141494372&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz


Yesterday morning a random pop band appeared on state television to sing “Fuck the AfD.” This really happened, I watched the song myself. What a good feeling it is, knowing that I pay 18.36 Euro a month for this stuff.

A whole fight has broken out at the carnival in Cologne, after AfD councillors adorned a CDU district mayor with a festive medal (a so-called Karnevalorden). The mayor was forced to apologise because he didn’t refuse the favour, the Greens suspended their cooperation with the CDU in the neighbourhood council on account of the grave offence to diversity, and the festival committee president opened a literal investigation into the firm that manufactured the trinket – who have of course likewise apologised and promised to donate their proceeds from the order to charity.

Just a few days ago, Peter Fischer, the honorary president of the football club Eintracht Frankfurt, gave a completely unhinged interview to RTL in which he screeched that “one in four or one in five people on the street is a Nazi.” “Break down their doors and gates,” he said of AfD voters, “slap them in the face! Puke in their faces! I don’t give a shit!” The whole time he was waving his hands like some totally crazy person on cocaine. It is like the great vaccinator hysteria from fall 2021 all over again.

Perhaps most amazing, however, is this story about a police investigation into an inflatable snowman planted before the AfD offices in Berlin-Pankow:




Crack fascism investigators with the Berlin police, drawing on their immense political expertise, determined that the figure was offering the Hitler salute. They wrote a report and a chief inspector with the State Criminal Police Office sent an “urgent request” to the AfD demanding that they explain themselves. Party officials responded that it was obviously a commercially available figurine which they had bought in 2018. Amazingly, it turns out that the snowman is neither a National Socialist nor right-wing extremist; he is merely waving. Now that experts have cleared the inflatable of all political suspicion, it is probably safe to buy it again; you can order your own here for 280 Euro.

Meanwhile, energy-intensive German industries continue to reduce production; there is no end in sight. The economy is facing its longest recession in 20 years. But we’re really sticking it to “the right,” and that’s what counts.
23   AD   2024 Feb 8, 10:37am  

Patrick says

Meanwhile, energy-intensive German industries continue to reduce production; there is no end in sight. The economy is facing its longest recession in 20 years. But we’re really sticking it to “the right,” and that’s what counts.


An Orwellian (or left wing authoritarian) government that is trying to distract its subjects or citizenry as well as neutralize its dissenters

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24   zzyzzx   2024 Feb 8, 11:09am  

Patrick says

Crack fascism investigators with the Berlin police, drawing on their immense political expertise, determined that the figure was offering the Hitler salute. They wrote a report and a chief inspector with the State Criminal Police Office sent an “urgent request” to the AfD demanding that they explain themselves. Party officials responded that it was obviously a commercially available figurine which they had bought in 2018. Amazingly, it turns out that the snowman is neither a National Socialist nor right-wing extremist; he is merely waving. Now that experts have cleared the inflatable of all political suspicion, it is probably safe to buy it again; you can order your own here for 280 Euro.


I see a business opportunity in manufacturing inflatable snowmen that are clearly offering the Hitler salute.
25   Patrick   2024 Feb 9, 12:20pm  

Patrick says

Perhaps most amazing, however, is this story about a police investigation into an inflatable snowman planted before the AfD offices in Berlin-Pankow:



26   Patrick   2024 Apr 4, 4:06pm  

https://twitter.com/shomburg/status/1770819987269181487



The docs, in German:

https://my.hidrive.com/share/2-hpbu3.3u#$/
27   Patrick   2024 Apr 4, 4:08pm  

Same guy:

https://www.stefan-homburg.de/images/Corona%20Facts.pdf



Corona: Five Official Facts
Dezember 2023
Prof. Dr. Stefan Homburg
This document uses short links. If you click on one of the blue links or type it in
manually, the official URL will appear in your browser window.
1. All-time low clinic occupancy in 2020
In 2020, clinic occupancy fell to an all-time low, in some cases 30% below the previous year's figure. Link Bundesgesundheitsministerium (p. 4): https://bitly.ws/32cQN
2. Few severe respiratory diseases
Respiratory diseases were inconspicuous in 2020 and 2021. Peaks occurred in 2018 and at the end of 2022. Link Robert Koch-Institut (p. 5): https://bitly.ws/32cSF
3. Deaths increased noticeably in 2021 not 2020
In 2020, the age-adjusted mortality rate was between the values of 2018 and 2019.
It only increased noticeably with the start of vaccination in 2021. Link Gesundheitsberichterstattung des Bundes: https://bitly.ws/342bx
4. Corona deaths were older than other deaths
On average, the PCR deaths were 83 years old, the other deaths were 82 years old.
Links Robert Koch-Institut (p. 19): https://bitly.ws/32pqh und Bundesinstitut für Bevölkerungsforschung: https://bitly.ws/32cTK
5. Sweden performed better than Germany
The overall mortality rate per capita was lower in lockdown- and mask-free Sweden than in Germany. Link: World Health Organization: https://bitly.ws/32sSY
31   B.A.C.A.H.   2024 Apr 28, 8:35am  

Patrick says

The irony is that while Germany no longer has any significant number of Nazis, they are now doing a mass import of an ideology, Islam, that is pretty damn similar to Naziism.

Demographics is destiny.

Just a few generations till The German Islamic Republic. Next door to The Islamic Republic of France.

Then the EU will become The European Caliphate.
32   PeopleUnited   2024 Apr 28, 8:47am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

Patrick says


The irony is that while Germany no longer has any significant number of Nazis, they are now doing a mass import of an ideology, Islam, that is pretty damn similar to Naziism.

Demographics is destiny.

Just a few generations till The German Islamic Republic. Next door to The Islamic Republic of France.

Then the EU will become The European Caliphate.

Jesus is coming soon, but before that all Christians (not the ones who claim to be Christian but the actual believers, thus many “christians” will be left behind) and all children will disappear from the earth in an instant. In the wake of this supernatural event the globalists will finalize their new world order, repeat lies about aliens, nuclear war and/or climate change and other psychobabel about how those taken and deceive the world into submitting to their totalitarian new world order.

I said all that to remind everyone that Islam is not going to change the world. The globalists are pulling all the strings to weaken western nations and oppose Christianity and Judaism. But after 7 years of trouble, God will put their plans to rest in His triumphant return, setting up a kingdom for 1,000 years.

Islam is only a symptom, globalism (Inspired by Satan) is the cause.
33   B.A.C.A.H.   2024 Apr 28, 8:58am  

PeopleUnited says

Islam is only a symptom,

If you say so, that the European Caliphate will be a symptom.
34   PeopleUnited   2024 Apr 28, 11:20am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

PeopleUnited says


Islam is only a symptom,

If you say so, that the European Caliphate will be a symptom.

It’s not going to happen. Jesus will be back before then.
35   richwicks   2024 Apr 28, 11:28am  

PeopleUnited says

B.A.C.A.H. says


PeopleUnited says



Islam is only a symptom,

If you say so, that the European Caliphate will be a symptom.


It’s not going to happen. Jesus will be back before then.


Depending on your god to stop something is the thing I hated about religion. It's the ultimate "don't do anything...", so you won't.
36   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Apr 29, 12:51pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says

Then the EU will become The European Caliphate.




37   AmericanKulak   2024 Apr 29, 12:53pm  

There was a pogram in Istanbul in the 1960s

The remaining Greek, Armenian, etc. population was terrorized into leaving. Before then, Istanbul had a majority Christian population.
39   richwicks   2024 May 7, 3:31am  

AmericanKulak says


There was a pogram in Istanbul in the 1960s

The remaining Greek, Armenian, etc. population was terrorized into leaving. Before then, Istanbul had a majority Christian population.

That's weird. Istanbul was the capital of the Ottoman empire until it's dissolution. The Ottoman empire was essentially the last Caliphate.

It became majority Christian by the 1960s? I think you must be mistaken or outright lying. You do lie a lot.

You are lying. It was not even close to being majority Christian in modern times. There was a pogrom against the Greek minority in the 1960s. I swear you just attempt to inflame sectarian divisions and create hatred.
41   Patrick   2024 May 16, 8:05pm  

https://twitter.com/eugyppius1/status/1790075607558099085


@eugyppius1
here i say a little about my experience of mass migration.

i buy alpine fortress in mountain foothills, in the evening of covid stupidity, in a fit of anger with hygiene restrictions and QR passes everywhere. these ruin the beloved city for me, they ruin it forever. i can never live in munich again. good job ret@rds.

it is modest house but is nice, on the banks of a stream full of trout, the babbling water is a sound you hear in all the rooms. nothing but locals who speak heavy bayrisch, i feel like i am retvrning to place of childhood. it is a plus, that around the corner from me is local school, i think could help with resale value, and anyway the children with their overstuffed rucksacks cheer me. it is a pristine place.

then the borders open after covid and the migrants come. the school, once a blessing, is now a curse, because the invaders are housed in the school athletics facility. an ever-rotating cast of them now vastly outnumbering the locals. i guess the kids don’t get to do sports anymore, migration is more important. the guests are overwhelmingly young men, they smoke and drink cheep petrol station liquor on the lawn in front of the school. they tag my house with graffiti. they drink and make noise until late at night outside. i start worry about grilfriend on her evening runs. broken glass on the streets in the mornings.

you can’t get away from this. any house you buy, anywhere you move - who is to say what random facility down the road won’t transform itself into indefinite rapefufee centre. of course you have no say in this, it just happens, because humanitarianism.

during the last major freakout AgInsT tHe rIgHT, i took careful note of all the local businesses that put up obnoxious diversity migrants-welcome-here signs in the windows. i will never give these assholes another euro, their stupid virtue signalling is ruining these small fragile rural settlements. also, it’s hard not to notice that most of these fashion-forward establishments are run by immigrants from less noxious places. especially the italians. fuck you guys.

so now i probably move again, to the rural east, i try to buy withdrawn villa with land around it that they can’t tag, i escape somewhat the suffocating self-abnegation of westtards who seem to get moral orgasm from this kind of debasement.

it is the humiliation more than anything that i hate. we could end this tomorrow but we grab our ankles and ask to be fucked in the ass instead. i will never forgive the desecration of my home.
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