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2017 Nov 30, 6:21pm   7,916 views  110 comments

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Think I'm nuts? It's the official platform of SPD:

The SPD leaders, whose party is lagging Merkel’s Christian Democrats in the polls by 15 percentage points, said Germany would have to nearly double current defense spending from 37 billion euros to meet the NATO target. That would make it the largest military power in Europe - a goal they said “no one could want” given Germany’s Nazi history.

Instead, they said, Germany should focus on building a strong European defense union and, ultimately, a European army - a stance that may resonate with a deeply pacifist German public that remains skeptical of military engagements.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election-military-spd/germanys-spd-rejects-nato-2-percent-defense-spending-target-idUSKBN1AM001
Keep in mind, they laughed at Churchill, proudly declaring he was a warmongering eccentric, if not downright delusional, literally right up until the Sudentenland. And all the Liberals of the day claimed "Peace in Our Time."

We really should be thinking about how to divide Germany into Saxony, Prussia, Bavaria, Hannover, etc.and if Morganthau was right all along.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Plan
#Germany #FourthReich #EUArmy

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12   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 4, 10:53pm  

just_dregalicious says
And pipsqueak nations have been joining that may get us dragged into a war doing something stupid. Why have NATO anymore when Germany is going to get it's energy from Russia?


Inviting the Baltic States into NATO was stupid. Lots of added risk, no added benefit. The only thing economically or military they could contribute is a sack of potatoes and maybe 5 border guards.

They also pull plenty of stunts against their Russian minority that could offer an excuse for intervention. And then we'd have to respond with full force, instead of say, a naval blockade of the Russian Baltic, Arctic and Black Seas.
13   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 4, 11:33pm  

curious2 says
Consider what will happen when France and Belgium become 20% Muslim, which will happen in a generation. I would rather see them disarm instead of turning over a huge arsenal to Islamic control. The KSA plan seems to be to hijack NATO countries from inside, pumping Sunnis into NATO countries. I would like to see the USA thwart that plan.


The first NATO Secretary General, Lord Ismay, stated the organization's goal was "to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down".

Some other attempts to revise his idea:
http://smallwarsjournal.com/blog/lord-ismay-restated

Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, the Germans disarmed, and provide onsite forces for eventually necessary Reconquista
14   steverbeaver   2018 Oct 5, 12:11am  

I don't see any reason why Germans or other defeated foes shouldn't be able to re-arm and be proud of themselves, they should be encouraged to do so. The only stipulation I have for this to happen is that the individual citizens shall be armed and affirmed right to bear.
15   bob2356   2018 Oct 5, 5:13am  

Strategist says
replaced by a secular democratic Germany


someone else says
 
 

The irony is that while Germany no longer has any significant number of Nazis, they are now doing a mass import of an ideology, Islam, that is pretty damn similar to Naziism.


Funny stuff today. Germany was secular democratic Germany in 1932. Anyone that thinks the right can't rise again is a fool. Russia is doing everything they can to expand the far right all over Europpe and the US. Alternative for Germany and National Front are directly and openly supported by Russia with both funding and operations. Other parties like Golden Dawn and Swedish Democrats are more covertly funded but wouldn't be more than a minor fringe without the Russians. When the Berlin wall collapsed Shultz (it may have been Haig) said that with the fall of communism eastern Europe can return to it's true destiny, fascism

Go read up on some of Putin's russian language speeches. or about the Eurasia plan on the russian destiny of control from the pacific to the atlantic. Read the currently popular (as in putin approved) writers in russia promoting fascism (rebranded as populism), protecting the purity of russia, the threat of the decadent homosexual west. Much of which is directly from the ideas and writings of schultz who was hitlers chief nazi propagandist. Ideas sometimes seen right here on patnet quoted by the right wing contingent as populist without a clue where they originated. .A recent book called The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America: Timothy Snyder would be a good read for the few people left who actually are interested in thinking rather than simply being told what to think and believe.

Putin has to have ideological war against the west. He is the leading kleptocrat in at totally kleptocracy society. External enemies and nationalism are the only way to keep the people distracted. That playbook never changes. The fourth world war is being fought in cyberspace right now and Russia is winning. A bunch of raggedy ass refuges are the least of the worries in Europe.
16   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 5, 12:41pm  

bob2356 says
Anyone that thinks the right can't rise again is a fool.


It's a distant chance, if the Postmodernist Left doesn't alter their policy in the face of democracy.

Germany could have also turned communist, since the first major Putsch was Communist - also in Bavaria. The Bavarian Soviet. However, the outcome was that the Communists came to regard the Socialists as traitors, therefore preventing a Grand Left alliance from preventing Hitler and his alliances with the Far Right from dominating the Reichtag later.

That being said, AfD takes Jews. DUP loves Israel. Orban and Bibi are buddies.

In reality, the Populist Right in power is likely to restrict migrants, deport violent rapefugees, and roll back some Neoliberal/Socialist economic policy.
17   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Oct 5, 12:48pm  

bob2356 says
Russia is doing everything they can to expand the far right all over Europpe and the US.

They don't want to spread the alt right. They want to divide people, discredit the institutions, and create strife. They use the alt-right in the process because it's convenient. They probably also use the extreme left for the same reason. Have you listened RT recently?
18   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Oct 5, 1:01pm  

bob2356 says
A bunch of raggedy ass refuges are the least of the worries in Europe.

The idea that the spread of a retrograde ultra-conservative and anti-enlightenment cult is not possible in Europe is based on ignoring the facts.
Education is certainly not the protection people think it is. You just have to look at global warming denialists.
19   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 5, 1:03pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
They don't want to spread the alt right. They want to divide people, discredit the institutions, and create strife. They use the alt-right in the process because it's convenient. They probably also use the extreme left for the same reason. Have you listened RT recently?


The Democrat "Blame Russia" gang studiously ignores RT/Sputnik's support of BLM, Bernie, etc.

They also ignore that Galloway and other Hard Leftists have/had shows on RT/Sputnik
"Orbiting with the world with Galloway"
https://www.rt.com/shows/sputnik/

Is George Galloway on the Far Right?

How about Op-Eds with Red Ken, former Mayor of London the Far Left legendary conspiracy theorist?
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/436390-media-bias-lies-livingstone/

Look at these Far Right Propagandists being promoted by RT/Sputnik:
Slavoj Zizek
Pepe Escobar
Finian Cunningham
Peter Osborne (Radical Left Professor)
John Pilger
, for fuck's sake
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/authors/
20   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Oct 5, 1:15pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
The Democrat "Blame Russia" gang studiously ignores RT/Sputnik's support of BLM, Bernie, etc.


The establishment is reeling from the overall loss of control on the propaganda machine. You can bet Zuck is hard at work in Facebook to re-establish some form of thought control that doesn't look like blunt censorship. Hard to allow a large number of super-PACs running their own propaganda operations, while weeding out foreign operations (unless they pay the right charity to play).
22   Patrick   2024 Feb 8, 9:45am  

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/berlin-police-investigate-possibly?publication_id=268621&post_id=141494372&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz


Yesterday morning a random pop band appeared on state television to sing “Fuck the AfD.” This really happened, I watched the song myself. What a good feeling it is, knowing that I pay 18.36 Euro a month for this stuff.

A whole fight has broken out at the carnival in Cologne, after AfD councillors adorned a CDU district mayor with a festive medal (a so-called Karnevalorden). The mayor was forced to apologise because he didn’t refuse the favour, the Greens suspended their cooperation with the CDU in the neighbourhood council on account of the grave offence to diversity, and the festival committee president opened a literal investigation into the firm that manufactured the trinket – who have of course likewise apologised and promised to donate their proceeds from the order to charity.

Just a few days ago, Peter Fischer, the honorary president of the football club Eintracht Frankfurt, gave a completely unhinged interview to RTL in which he screeched that “one in four or one in five people on the street is a Nazi.” “Break down their doors and gates,” he said of AfD voters, “slap them in the face! Puke in their faces! I don’t give a shit!” The whole time he was waving his hands like some totally crazy person on cocaine. It is like the great vaccinator hysteria from fall 2021 all over again.

Perhaps most amazing, however, is this story about a police investigation into an inflatable snowman planted before the AfD offices in Berlin-Pankow:




Crack fascism investigators with the Berlin police, drawing on their immense political expertise, determined that the figure was offering the Hitler salute. They wrote a report and a chief inspector with the State Criminal Police Office sent an “urgent request” to the AfD demanding that they explain themselves. Party officials responded that it was obviously a commercially available figurine which they had bought in 2018. Amazingly, it turns out that the snowman is neither a National Socialist nor right-wing extremist; he is merely waving. Now that experts have cleared the inflatable of all political suspicion, it is probably safe to buy it again; you can order your own here for 280 Euro.

Meanwhile, energy-intensive German industries continue to reduce production; there is no end in sight. The economy is facing its longest recession in 20 years. But we’re really sticking it to “the right,” and that’s what counts.
23   AD   2024 Feb 8, 10:37am  

Patrick says

Meanwhile, energy-intensive German industries continue to reduce production; there is no end in sight. The economy is facing its longest recession in 20 years. But we’re really sticking it to “the right,” and that’s what counts.


An Orwellian (or left wing authoritarian) government that is trying to distract its subjects or citizenry as well as neutralize its dissenters

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24   zzyzzx   2024 Feb 8, 11:09am  

Patrick says

Crack fascism investigators with the Berlin police, drawing on their immense political expertise, determined that the figure was offering the Hitler salute. They wrote a report and a chief inspector with the State Criminal Police Office sent an “urgent request” to the AfD demanding that they explain themselves. Party officials responded that it was obviously a commercially available figurine which they had bought in 2018. Amazingly, it turns out that the snowman is neither a National Socialist nor right-wing extremist; he is merely waving. Now that experts have cleared the inflatable of all political suspicion, it is probably safe to buy it again; you can order your own here for 280 Euro.


I see a business opportunity in manufacturing inflatable snowmen that are clearly offering the Hitler salute.
25   Patrick   2024 Feb 9, 12:20pm  

Patrick says

Perhaps most amazing, however, is this story about a police investigation into an inflatable snowman planted before the AfD offices in Berlin-Pankow:



26   Patrick   2024 Apr 4, 4:06pm  

https://twitter.com/shomburg/status/1770819987269181487



The docs, in German:

https://my.hidrive.com/share/2-hpbu3.3u#$/
27   Patrick   2024 Apr 4, 4:08pm  

Same guy:

https://www.stefan-homburg.de/images/Corona%20Facts.pdf



Corona: Five Official Facts
Dezember 2023
Prof. Dr. Stefan Homburg
This document uses short links. If you click on one of the blue links or type it in
manually, the official URL will appear in your browser window.
1. All-time low clinic occupancy in 2020
In 2020, clinic occupancy fell to an all-time low, in some cases 30% below the previous year's figure. Link Bundesgesundheitsministerium (p. 4): https://bitly.ws/32cQN
2. Few severe respiratory diseases
Respiratory diseases were inconspicuous in 2020 and 2021. Peaks occurred in 2018 and at the end of 2022. Link Robert Koch-Institut (p. 5): https://bitly.ws/32cSF
3. Deaths increased noticeably in 2021 not 2020
In 2020, the age-adjusted mortality rate was between the values of 2018 and 2019.
It only increased noticeably with the start of vaccination in 2021. Link Gesundheitsberichterstattung des Bundes: https://bitly.ws/342bx
4. Corona deaths were older than other deaths
On average, the PCR deaths were 83 years old, the other deaths were 82 years old.
Links Robert Koch-Institut (p. 19): https://bitly.ws/32pqh und Bundesinstitut für Bevölkerungsforschung: https://bitly.ws/32cTK
5. Sweden performed better than Germany
The overall mortality rate per capita was lower in lockdown- and mask-free Sweden than in Germany. Link: World Health Organization: https://bitly.ws/32sSY
31   B.A.C.A.H.   2024 Apr 28, 8:35am  

Patrick says

The irony is that while Germany no longer has any significant number of Nazis, they are now doing a mass import of an ideology, Islam, that is pretty damn similar to Naziism.

Demographics is destiny.

Just a few generations till The German Islamic Republic. Next door to The Islamic Republic of France.

Then the EU will become The European Caliphate.
32   PeopleUnited   2024 Apr 28, 8:47am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

Patrick says


The irony is that while Germany no longer has any significant number of Nazis, they are now doing a mass import of an ideology, Islam, that is pretty damn similar to Naziism.

Demographics is destiny.

Just a few generations till The German Islamic Republic. Next door to The Islamic Republic of France.

Then the EU will become The European Caliphate.

Jesus is coming soon, but before that all Christians (not the ones who claim to be Christian but the actual believers, thus many “christians” will be left behind) and all children will disappear from the earth in an instant. In the wake of this supernatural event the globalists will finalize their new world order, repeat lies about aliens, nuclear war and/or climate change and other psychobabel about how those taken and deceive the world into submitting to their totalitarian new world order.

I said all that to remind everyone that Islam is not going to change the world. The globalists are pulling all the strings to weaken western nations and oppose Christianity and Judaism. But after 7 years of trouble, God will put their plans to rest in His triumphant return, setting up a kingdom for 1,000 years.

Islam is only a symptom, globalism (Inspired by Satan) is the cause.
33   B.A.C.A.H.   2024 Apr 28, 8:58am  

PeopleUnited says

Islam is only a symptom,

If you say so, that the European Caliphate will be a symptom.
34   PeopleUnited   2024 Apr 28, 11:20am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

PeopleUnited says


Islam is only a symptom,

If you say so, that the European Caliphate will be a symptom.

It’s not going to happen. Jesus will be back before then.
35   richwicks   2024 Apr 28, 11:28am  

PeopleUnited says

B.A.C.A.H. says


PeopleUnited says



Islam is only a symptom,

If you say so, that the European Caliphate will be a symptom.


It’s not going to happen. Jesus will be back before then.


Depending on your god to stop something is the thing I hated about religion. It's the ultimate "don't do anything...", so you won't.
36   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Apr 29, 12:51pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says

Then the EU will become The European Caliphate.




37   AmericanKulak   2024 Apr 29, 12:53pm  

There was a pogram in Istanbul in the 1960s

The remaining Greek, Armenian, etc. population was terrorized into leaving. Before then, Istanbul had a majority Christian population.
39   richwicks   2024 May 7, 3:31am  

AmericanKulak says


There was a pogram in Istanbul in the 1960s

The remaining Greek, Armenian, etc. population was terrorized into leaving. Before then, Istanbul had a majority Christian population.

That's weird. Istanbul was the capital of the Ottoman empire until it's dissolution. The Ottoman empire was essentially the last Caliphate.

It became majority Christian by the 1960s? I think you must be mistaken or outright lying. You do lie a lot.

You are lying. It was not even close to being majority Christian in modern times. There was a pogrom against the Greek minority in the 1960s. I swear you just attempt to inflame sectarian divisions and create hatred.
41   Patrick   2024 May 16, 8:05pm  

https://twitter.com/eugyppius1/status/1790075607558099085


@eugyppius1
here i say a little about my experience of mass migration.

i buy alpine fortress in mountain foothills, in the evening of covid stupidity, in a fit of anger with hygiene restrictions and QR passes everywhere. these ruin the beloved city for me, they ruin it forever. i can never live in munich again. good job ret@rds.

it is modest house but is nice, on the banks of a stream full of trout, the babbling water is a sound you hear in all the rooms. nothing but locals who speak heavy bayrisch, i feel like i am retvrning to place of childhood. it is a plus, that around the corner from me is local school, i think could help with resale value, and anyway the children with their overstuffed rucksacks cheer me. it is a pristine place.

then the borders open after covid and the migrants come. the school, once a blessing, is now a curse, because the invaders are housed in the school athletics facility. an ever-rotating cast of them now vastly outnumbering the locals. i guess the kids don’t get to do sports anymore, migration is more important. the guests are overwhelmingly young men, they smoke and drink cheep petrol station liquor on the lawn in front of the school. they tag my house with graffiti. they drink and make noise until late at night outside. i start worry about grilfriend on her evening runs. broken glass on the streets in the mornings.

you can’t get away from this. any house you buy, anywhere you move - who is to say what random facility down the road won’t transform itself into indefinite rapefufee centre. of course you have no say in this, it just happens, because humanitarianism.

during the last major freakout AgInsT tHe rIgHT, i took careful note of all the local businesses that put up obnoxious diversity migrants-welcome-here signs in the windows. i will never give these assholes another euro, their stupid virtue signalling is ruining these small fragile rural settlements. also, it’s hard not to notice that most of these fashion-forward establishments are run by immigrants from less noxious places. especially the italians. fuck you guys.

so now i probably move again, to the rural east, i try to buy withdrawn villa with land around it that they can’t tag, i escape somewhat the suffocating self-abnegation of westtards who seem to get moral orgasm from this kind of debasement.

it is the humiliation more than anything that i hate. we could end this tomorrow but we grab our ankles and ask to be fucked in the ass instead. i will never forgive the desecration of my home.
10:44 AM · May 13, 2024
43   AmericanKulak   2024 May 24, 9:39pm  

AmericanKulak says

There was a pogram in Istanbul in the 1960s

The remaining Greek, Armenian, etc. population was terrorized into leaving. Before then, Istanbul had a majority Christian population.

Gee, some viewer of Indy Pendantic Journalists didn't like this truth. Look it up for yourself. This is on top of the post WW1 Expulsion of Greeks from Coastal Asia ("Turkey" as named by the Central Asian imperialist-colonialists)
46   HeadSet   2024 Jun 4, 11:40am  

Patrick says





Easy, coal......
49   Patrick   2024 Jun 27, 10:55am  

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/how-the-german-foreign-office-collaborated


How the German Foreign Office collaborated with asylum NGOs and pressured foreign embassy officials to grant entry visas to thousands of fake refugees with forged passports

Prosecutors in Berlin and Cottbus have opened criminal investigations into the widening scandal.

Today, I invite you to follow me down a little mass migration rabbit hole. We will investigate a small part of the machinery that is bringing the migrants to Germany, in all of its utter bizarreness, and at the end we will speculate briefly about why all of this strange stuff is happening.
50   Patrick   2024 Jul 2, 10:59am  

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/man-returning-from-his-sisters-graduation


Man returning from his sister's graduation party is beaten to death by Syrian migrant; Interior Minister Nancy Faeser blames Germany's poor refugee accommodations and failed "social integration"

Philippos Tsanis was a 20-year-old man of Greek and Polish descent, who lived in Bad Oeynhausen, northeast of Bielefeld. On 22 June, Tsanis attended a graduation party for his sister at the municipal park. He left the event in the early morning hours with a 19 year-old friend, whereupon both of them were attacked by a group of young migrants. Bystanders called emergency services and the victims were taken to a hospital, where Tsanis died two days later of devastating head injuries. It is a bitter irony that among the few traces Tsanis left of himself on the internet before his death, is this local news story detailing his family’s efforts in 2022 to bring Ukrainian refugees into Germany from Poland and put them up at their own residence.

Some Anglophone sources have reported that Tsanis was attacked because of a prominent cross he wore around his neck. You should know that this is not confirmed; it is merely one possibility that the police are reportedly investigating.

Tsanis’s primary assailant is alleged to have been an 18 year-old Syrian named Mwafak A., who came to Germany in 2016 via family reunification provisions, with the rest of Angela Merkel’s wir-schaffen-das migration wave. He is known to the police for a wide range of alleged offences – among them narcotics, theft, aggravated robbery, trespassing and assault causing grievous bodily harm. He was also investigated for attempted rape and child sexual abuse in 2022. He was never convicted of any of these crimes.
51   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2024 Jul 8, 5:29am  

Toni Kroos: Germany is ‘not the same as it was 10 years ago’ due to ‘uncontrolled’ migration

The famous German footballer said during a podcast he would be staying in Madrid with his family following his retirement because Germany has become "more aggressive" and less safe since his move to Spain a decade ago

German football heavyweight Toni Kroos has revealed he will continue to live in Madrid following his retirement from football because his home country isn’t what it used to be and he wouldn’t feel comfortable allowing his daughter to roam the streets of big German cities.

In an interview for a podcast with the ZDF public broadcaster, the former Real Madrid midfielder lamented the demise of Germany, a country he left in 2014 to join the Spanish giants.

“I still think Germany is a great country. I like to be there, but it’s not quite the same as it was 10 years ago,” he said.

Asked what he felt had changed, Kroos replied, “If I compare it to Spain. I have a 7-year-old daughter, for example. When she gets older, when she is 13, 14, 15 years old. And if I were to ask someone now, would you let your daughter out in Spain at 2 p.m. or in the German big city?

“I don’t want to be too general, but 10 years ago I would have had a very conscious feeling that she would come home unharmed. I wouldn’t have that now,” he said.

Kroos explained that, after living in Spain for a decade, he did not consider it to be “an aggressive society at all,” but warned that Germany has “become much more aggressive in the last 10 years.”

The German international, who has announced his retirement from football after this summer’s Euro 2024 tournament hosted by Germany, said, “A lot has happened in the last few years which has contributed to the direction [Germany] is going.”

He raised the “big issue of migration” which, while supporting it in principle, warned had been mismanaged.

“In the end, it was just too uncontrolled,” he said, warning that a percentage of new arrivals to Germany did not “do us any good, just like it is with Germans.”

“If you can’t tell from those who don’t do us any good, then it gets difficult in the end,” he added.

Kroos’ concerns regarding safety in German cities are not unfounded with crime stats published by Germany’s federal interior ministry in April revealing that 41 percent of all crime suspects last year were foreign nationals despite representing just 15 percent of the population.

Knife crime jumped 30 percent in one year across Germany with more than half of the suspects being foreigners.

Polling published last week showed a majority of the German public were also concerned about the levels of mass immigration into the country. The Insa survey showed that 74 percent of respondents said the government is failing to take enough action against immigration while 69 percent of respondents called for less migration to Germany, including legal immigration.

https://rmx.news/article/toni-kroos-germany-is-not-the-same-as-it-was-10-years-ago-due-to-uncontrolled-migration/

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