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HeadSet
2023 May 15, 8:39am
HeadSet
2023 May 15, 8:39am
clambo says
Even so, at the cab company I used to work for we had 3 blind call takers entering data (listened to callers in one ear and an advance Windows Narrator type program in the other ear) and a paralyzed from the waist down manager who used to drive a cab. Also, a deaf mechanic.
I believe unless you are 1. blind 2. crippled 3. mentally incapable you deserve nothing from other people.
Even so, at the cab company I used to work for we had 3 blind call takers entering data (listened to callers in one ear and an advance Windows Narrator type program in the other ear) and a paralyzed from the waist down manager who used to drive a cab. Also, a deaf mechanic.
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clambo
2023 Jun 1, 2:06pm
To expand on Nuttboxer above.
Females are designed to depend on others, it's in their DNA.
Father, boyfriend, sugar daddy, simp friend, older brother. husband and Uncle Sam comprise the list of those who are asked to "help" a female throughout her life.
Females are designed to depend on others, it's in their DNA.
Father, boyfriend, sugar daddy, simp friend, older brother. husband and Uncle Sam comprise the list of those who are asked to "help" a female throughout her life.
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HeadSet
2023 Jun 2, 7:56am
HeadSet
2023 Jun 2, 7:56am
clambo says
Yep, if you are the dad of a single 20 something daughter, you will be called on for car and house fixes and maybe even taxes. The son of a widowed mom will do those tasks as well. Even single female neighbors borrow next door husbands to assemble a grill or carry something heavy. I recently had a neighbor lady call my wife to borrow me to put a new battery in her car, as her battery had died suddenly and stranded her. Her own mom had brought her a new battery to her from AutoZone, but the AutoZone guy obviously would not travel to install it. Also, the guy next store and I fixed a single girl's mailbox lamp post (the mailboxes in this neighborhood are uniform 8 foot tall fluted metal poles with a large carriage lamp on top).
Father, boyfriend, sugar daddy, simp friend, older brother. husband and Uncle Sam comprise the list of those who are asked to "help" a female throughout her life.
Yep, if you are the dad of a single 20 something daughter, you will be called on for car and house fixes and maybe even taxes. The son of a widowed mom will do those tasks as well. Even single female neighbors borrow next door husbands to assemble a grill or carry something heavy. I recently had a neighbor lady call my wife to borrow me to put a new battery in her car, as her battery had died suddenly and stranded her. Her own mom had brought her a new battery to her from AutoZone, but the AutoZone guy obviously would not travel to install it. Also, the guy next store and I fixed a single girl's mailbox lamp post (the mailboxes in this neighborhood are uniform 8 foot tall fluted metal poles with a large carriage lamp on top).
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SunnyvaleCA
2023 Jun 26, 11:49pm
WookieMan says
Huh?
The standard deduction, for a married couple, is about $23k. However, that $23k is not a tax credit, it merely reduces the income that you are taxed on. So your taxes went from $350k x 0.28 = $98k to instead being ($350k - $23k) x 0.28 = $91.6k
$350k x .28= $98k. There's a shit ton to factor in here. Standard deduction or itemized? Just standard deduction brings that down to $75k.
Huh?
The standard deduction, for a married couple, is about $23k. However, that $23k is not a tax credit, it merely reduces the income that you are taxed on. So your taxes went from $350k x 0.28 = $98k to instead being ($350k - $23k) x 0.28 = $91.6k
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SunnyvaleCA
2023 Jun 27, 12:01am
WookieMan says
Here are the 2021 federal tax brackets. https://taxfoundation.org/2021-tax-brackets/
Let's assume the person is married filing jointly and the $250k is combined income. Standard deduction is $25k, so the person is taxed on $225k of income.
10% on the first $20k = $2k
12% on the next $61k = $7k
22% on the next $91k = $20k
24% on the last $53k = $13k
That's $42k for married filing jointly.
For single, the standard deduction is half and the brackets creep up twice as quickly...
10% on the first $10k = $1k
12% on the next $30k = $4k
22% on the next $46k = $10k
24% on the next $79k = $19k
32% on the next $45k = $14k
35% on the last $16k = $5k
Thats $51k for single.
Working out the math for a $100k tax bill, the married couple would need to make $432k and the single filer would need $357k.
$250k federal is around $25k in federal taxes
Here are the 2021 federal tax brackets. https://taxfoundation.org/2021-tax-brackets/
Let's assume the person is married filing jointly and the $250k is combined income. Standard deduction is $25k, so the person is taxed on $225k of income.
10% on the first $20k = $2k
12% on the next $61k = $7k
22% on the next $91k = $20k
24% on the last $53k = $13k
That's $42k for married filing jointly.
For single, the standard deduction is half and the brackets creep up twice as quickly...
10% on the first $10k = $1k
12% on the next $30k = $4k
22% on the next $46k = $10k
24% on the next $79k = $19k
32% on the next $45k = $14k
35% on the last $16k = $5k
Thats $51k for single.
Working out the math for a $100k tax bill, the married couple would need to make $432k and the single filer would need $357k.
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SunnyvaleCA
2023 Jun 27, 12:13am
WookieMan says
AMT got a lot better with the "Trump tax cut." The personal deduction for AMT, a whopping $40k or something, now gets phased out more slowly. Net result is that before Trump I had $60k to $80k of itemized deductions (thanks California!), but would get to use exactly 0 of it. By about $400k income you pay 26% AMT with no deductions at all (I don't have a home mortgage). So, that's $100k right there.
Also, as others have noted, there's Medicare tax and Obamacare tax. Don't forget the nearly 15% social security tax.
I'll also admit that I don't understand the AMT
AMT got a lot better with the "Trump tax cut." The personal deduction for AMT, a whopping $40k or something, now gets phased out more slowly. Net result is that before Trump I had $60k to $80k of itemized deductions (thanks California!), but would get to use exactly 0 of it. By about $400k income you pay 26% AMT with no deductions at all (I don't have a home mortgage). So, that's $100k right there.
Also, as others have noted, there's Medicare tax and Obamacare tax. Don't forget the nearly 15% social security tax.
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SunnyvaleCA
2023 Jun 27, 12:16am
WookieMan says
If you're using the standard deduction, then you aren't writing off a huge home mortgage (which is also limited, by the way). Assuming that $300k is wage income — not long term capital gains — That $40k seems a tad low not even counting state taxes.
max we've paid federally is $40k on just under $300k. Including state taxes. Standard deduction.
If you're using the standard deduction, then you aren't writing off a huge home mortgage (which is also limited, by the way). Assuming that $300k is wage income — not long term capital gains — That $40k seems a tad low not even counting state taxes.
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ForcedTQ
2023 Jun 27, 4:11pm
SunnyvaleCA says
$300,000 less MFJ standard deduction
Less $7,300 HSA
Less 41,000 401k contributions $20,500 each
Less Cafeteria plan dependent child care $5,000
Brings total Taxable income to $220,800. Tax on that from the applicable brackets: $2,055 + $7,560 + $20,812 + $10,236 = $40,663.
WookieMan says
max we've paid federally is $40k on just under $300k. Including state taxes. Standard deduction.
If you're using the standard deduction, then you aren't writing off a huge home mortgage (which is also limited, by the way). Assuming that $300k is wage income — not long term capital gains — That $40k seems a tad low not even counting state taxes.
$300,000 less MFJ standard deduction
Less $7,300 HSA
Less 41,000 401k contributions $20,500 each
Less Cafeteria plan dependent child care $5,000
Brings total Taxable income to $220,800. Tax on that from the applicable brackets: $2,055 + $7,560 + $20,812 + $10,236 = $40,663.
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AD
2024 Feb 3, 8:15pm
AD
2024 Feb 3, 8:15pm
The OASI (Social Security trust fund) is expected to run out of money by 2033 or 2034. When it does, the program will be solely funded by payroll taxes, which currently cover only 77% of benefits.
It proposes to repeal federal taxes on Social Security benefits and delay the looming insolvency of the program’s Old Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund by two decades to 2054
The proposed legislation would keep the trust fund solvent by expanding Social Security payroll taxes to wages above $250,000. In 2024, taxes are imposed only on income up to $168,600. Under the Craig-Caraveo bill, the cap would continue to rise until it hits $250,000 and beyond.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/social-security-win-win-bill-123006868.html
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It proposes to repeal federal taxes on Social Security benefits and delay the looming insolvency of the program’s Old Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund by two decades to 2054
The proposed legislation would keep the trust fund solvent by expanding Social Security payroll taxes to wages above $250,000. In 2024, taxes are imposed only on income up to $168,600. Under the Craig-Caraveo bill, the cap would continue to rise until it hits $250,000 and beyond.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/social-security-win-win-bill-123006868.html
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Eman
2024 Feb 3, 10:17pm
Eman
2024 Feb 3, 10:17pm
Talking about taxes, this pitcher either has a good CPA, tax attorney, or a savvy agent.
https://x.com/travis_in_flint/status/1753845076449480824?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q
https://x.com/travis_in_flint/status/1753845076449480824?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q
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clambo
2024 Feb 4, 3:57am
If you have income derived in California, California will tax you.
Deferring the tax might not avoid it.
Deferring the tax might not avoid it.
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HeadSet
2024 Feb 4, 7:14am
HeadSet
2024 Feb 4, 7:14am
clambo says
California tried that with military retirement pay. California had a tax claim on any retirement pay that was "earned" in California. That is, if a military member was stationed in California for 10 years out of a 30 year career, California wanted to tax 1/3 of the retirement pay. The DoD did not cooperate with this scheme, however, and did not remit payments to California. It seems that if California could tax any income derived from California regardless of residency, then California should tax any state pensioner that move out of CA. I remember such a discussion earlier on this blog and someone pointed out that a judge ruled against it.
If you have income derived in California, California will tax you.
Deferring the tax might not avoid it.
California tried that with military retirement pay. California had a tax claim on any retirement pay that was "earned" in California. That is, if a military member was stationed in California for 10 years out of a 30 year career, California wanted to tax 1/3 of the retirement pay. The DoD did not cooperate with this scheme, however, and did not remit payments to California. It seems that if California could tax any income derived from California regardless of residency, then California should tax any state pensioner that move out of CA. I remember such a discussion earlier on this blog and someone pointed out that a judge ruled against it.
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WookieMan
2024 Feb 4, 9:32am
WookieMan
2024 Feb 4, 9:32am
Never understood why any professional athlete would play in CA with the amounts they get paid. Technically you're paid in the state you play. So away games are paid in that state. But still half your games are played in your home state. That's a shit load of state taxes that could be avoided in FL or TX.
I get they make fuck you money most the time, but I like the strategy of deferment. It likely won't work though as his place of employment was CA. I suppose the Dodgers could create an LLC in Texas or Florida and he moves and gets paid there. Then pay the remaining contract in an income tax free state.
Baseball contracts are guaranteed. But if he dies and has a family they won't get that money unless he built that in. Also his agent is likely flaming pissed off about it. Has to wait 10 years to get his real pay day. It's risky, but living off $2M/yr should be a cake walk when the team pays for everything. My BIL is a professional athlete, so no, I'm not talking out my ass.
I get they make fuck you money most the time, but I like the strategy of deferment. It likely won't work though as his place of employment was CA. I suppose the Dodgers could create an LLC in Texas or Florida and he moves and gets paid there. Then pay the remaining contract in an income tax free state.
Baseball contracts are guaranteed. But if he dies and has a family they won't get that money unless he built that in. Also his agent is likely flaming pissed off about it. Has to wait 10 years to get his real pay day. It's risky, but living off $2M/yr should be a cake walk when the team pays for everything. My BIL is a professional athlete, so no, I'm not talking out my ass.
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HeadSet
2024 Mar 31, 8:27am
HeadSet
2024 Mar 31, 8:27am
The_Deplorable says
Rain water does not go into sewers. And if she is talking storm drains, only paved property has runoff. One's grassy one acre lot has no runoff any more than someone else's 1/2 acre lot. If one has a bigger lot, then one is using more gravity and sunshine as well. In that case, I want a carbon credit for all the CO2 my lawn took out of the air.
Rain water does not go into sewers. And if she is talking storm drains, only paved property has runoff. One's grassy one acre lot has no runoff any more than someone else's 1/2 acre lot. If one has a bigger lot, then one is using more gravity and sunshine as well. In that case, I want a carbon credit for all the CO2 my lawn took out of the air.
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DOGEWontAmountToShit
2024 Mar 31, 8:35am
DOGEWontAmountToShit
2024 Mar 31, 8:35am
HeadSet says
Greentards are gonna tard.
The_Deplorable says
Rain water does not go into sewers. And if she is talking storm drains, only paved property has runoff. One's grassy one acre lot has no runoff any more than someone else's 1/2 acre lot. If one has a bigger lot, then one is using more gravity and sunshine as well. In that case, I want a carbon credit for all the CO2 my lawn took out of the air.
Greentards are gonna tard.
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The_Deplorable
2024 Mar 31, 3:20pm
HeadSet says
Yes it does. That is the problem with most water treatment plants in Toronto and the US.
"Rain water does not go into sewers."
Yes it does. That is the problem with most water treatment plants in Toronto and the US.
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WookieMan
2024 Mar 31, 3:26pm
WookieMan
2024 Mar 31, 3:26pm
The_Deplorable says
Not legally. There are separate storm sewers. They're not shit and piss sewers. Yes people illegally tap into them, but you're 1,000% wrong on this.
The bigger problems for sewer systems is "flushable" wipes. And people illegally draining rain water into them. I know my shit in this realm, pun intended. Heatset is correct. The base standard municipal ordinances do not allow you to pump rainwater or gutters into the actual sewers.
HeadSet says
"Rain water does not go into sewers."
Yes it does. That is the problem with most water treatment plants in Toronto and the US.
Not legally. There are separate storm sewers. They're not shit and piss sewers. Yes people illegally tap into them, but you're 1,000% wrong on this.
The bigger problems for sewer systems is "flushable" wipes. And people illegally draining rain water into them. I know my shit in this realm, pun intended. Heatset is correct. The base standard municipal ordinances do not allow you to pump rainwater or gutters into the actual sewers.
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The_Deplorable
2024 Mar 31, 4:42pm
WookieMan says
No, we do not have separate storm sewers. That is why the entire East Coast of the
United States (for the most part) has Flesh-Eating Bacteria that can kill in less than
24 hours. Stay away.
"Not legally. There are separate storm sewers."
No, we do not have separate storm sewers. That is why the entire East Coast of the
United States (for the most part) has Flesh-Eating Bacteria that can kill in less than
24 hours. Stay away.
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WookieMan
2024 Mar 31, 5:50pm
WookieMan
2024 Mar 31, 5:50pm
The_Deplorable says
Yes, you do have separate storm sewers. Let me know where you're at on the east coast. I can set up a conference phone call most likely with a public works engineer in your area if Patrick can trade info. You're hung up on the word sewer. Install both and get back to me. I did it for my parents subdivision. You're out of your element.
The water on the street does not go into the shit and piss system. Too much Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles I guess? Sure storm sewers are gross, but they're not the same. Shit is processed. Storm sewers run off into lakes, rivers, streams and retention ponds. Rain run off. Not diarrhea and piss. That goes to a sewage facility to get cleaned up.
WookieMan says
"Not legally. There are separate storm sewers."
No, we do not have separate storm sewers. That is why the entire East Coast of the
United States (for the most part) has Flesh-Eating Bacteria that can kill in less than
24 hours. Stay away.
Yes, you do have separate storm sewers. Let me know where you're at on the east coast. I can set up a conference phone call most likely with a public works engineer in your area if Patrick can trade info. You're hung up on the word sewer. Install both and get back to me. I did it for my parents subdivision. You're out of your element.
The water on the street does not go into the shit and piss system. Too much Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles I guess? Sure storm sewers are gross, but they're not the same. Shit is processed. Storm sewers run off into lakes, rivers, streams and retention ponds. Rain run off. Not diarrhea and piss. That goes to a sewage facility to get cleaned up.
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AD
2024 Mar 31, 6:42pm
AD
2024 Mar 31, 6:42pm
Florida panhandle does not mix storm water with sewer water. The storm water is handled by a different piping system.
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AD
2024 Mar 31, 6:47pm
AD
2024 Mar 31, 6:47pm
The problem in the Florida panhandle is that all that storm water generated from converting every square inch of sand or vegetation to concrete and asphalt jungle is going to end up mostly in the Gulf of Mexico via storm water retention lakes/ponds and ditches/canals.
You get enough storm water in one area and you create red tide risks, and due to the circulation pattern of the Gulf of Mexico, that ends up off of Tampa, then Key West, and the around Florida with the Gulf Stream.
You get enough storm water in one area and you create red tide risks, and due to the circulation pattern of the Gulf of Mexico, that ends up off of Tampa, then Key West, and the around Florida with the Gulf Stream.
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The_Deplorable
2024 Mar 31, 9:37pm
WookieMan says
You are dreaming. "Over Half of U.S. Beaches Had 'Potentially Unsafe' Levels of Poop
Contamination Last Year." In other words, if you step in the water you might be dead
in less than 24 hours from Flesh Eating bacteria. In other words the USA lacks very
basic infrastructure like Water Treatment Plants - very cheap and very efficient! The elites
are very busy sending billion$ to Ukraine and not a dime for We The People."
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/over-half-u-beaches-had-204747164.html
"Yes, you do have separate storm sewers."
You are dreaming. "Over Half of U.S. Beaches Had 'Potentially Unsafe' Levels of Poop
Contamination Last Year." In other words, if you step in the water you might be dead
in less than 24 hours from Flesh Eating bacteria. In other words the USA lacks very
basic infrastructure like Water Treatment Plants - very cheap and very efficient! The elites
are very busy sending billion$ to Ukraine and not a dime for We The People."
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/over-half-u-beaches-had-204747164.html
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WookieMan
2024 Apr 1, 2:15am
WookieMan
2024 Apr 1, 2:15am
The_Deplorable says
You don't understand the systems. Yes, people actually connect rainwater systems to the sewage system illegally. When that gets overburdened, yes it has to be dumped somewhere. Those are poorly run areas and you should be concerned about a lot of your infrastructure. Our town just redid our sewage plant and installed more storm sewers to dump into retention ponds so rain water that people illegally hooked up into the sewer system doesn't get dumped into our creek mixed with shit and piss due to overflow.
As I think I said, you're out of your element on this topic. Chicago has one of the biggest wastewater systems on the planet. Has one of the biggest fresh water sources on the planet. Take the time to watch it. https://youtu.be/aVtpGJNg3bE?si=vr1aJkvkZwAPRwGy There are plenty of others out there about Chicago. And yes, I hate Chicago and IL, but they do get some things right including infrastructure, nukes and wind power.
Northern IL is probably the best areas on the planet for public works. I don't work in it myself, but I go to conferences and talk to professionals in the industry almost daily. Mainly my wife, but I am friends with others and talk with people that are in charge of over 15M people's infrastructure. And that might be low.
Stick to programming or whatever you do. I'll admit I don't know programming and don't claim I do. But you're out of your element here. I can post more links too if you want. It just won't contain yahoo.com/"entertainment" Your beaches are trash because you don't care. Pay a little higher taxes and get the right people in office and positions to fix it. It's easier than you think.
WookieMan says
"Yes, you do have separate storm sewers."
You are dreaming. "Over Half of U.S. Beaches Had 'Potentially Unsafe' Levels of Poop
Contamination Last Year." In other words, if you step in the water you might be dead
in less than 24 hours from Flesh Eating bacteria. In other words the USA lacks very
basic infrastructure like Water Treatment Plants - very cheap and very efficient! The elites
are very busy sending billion$ to Ukraine and not a dime for We The People."
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/over-half-u-beaches-had-204747164.html
You don't understand the systems. Yes, people actually connect rainwater systems to the sewage system illegally. When that gets overburdened, yes it has to be dumped somewhere. Those are poorly run areas and you should be concerned about a lot of your infrastructure. Our town just redid our sewage plant and installed more storm sewers to dump into retention ponds so rain water that people illegally hooked up into the sewer system doesn't get dumped into our creek mixed with shit and piss due to overflow.
As I think I said, you're out of your element on this topic. Chicago has one of the biggest wastewater systems on the planet. Has one of the biggest fresh water sources on the planet. Take the time to watch it. https://youtu.be/aVtpGJNg3bE?si=vr1aJkvkZwAPRwGy There are plenty of others out there about Chicago. And yes, I hate Chicago and IL, but they do get some things right including infrastructure, nukes and wind power.
Northern IL is probably the best areas on the planet for public works. I don't work in it myself, but I go to conferences and talk to professionals in the industry almost daily. Mainly my wife, but I am friends with others and talk with people that are in charge of over 15M people's infrastructure. And that might be low.
Stick to programming or whatever you do. I'll admit I don't know programming and don't claim I do. But you're out of your element here. I can post more links too if you want. It just won't contain yahoo.com/"entertainment" Your beaches are trash because you don't care. Pay a little higher taxes and get the right people in office and positions to fix it. It's easier than you think.
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HeadSet
2024 Apr 1, 6:46am
HeadSet
2024 Apr 1, 6:46am
WookieMan says
Around here a few years back, we had high bacteria in the beach water in an old waterfront neighborhoods where the houses were on septic systems. The solution was to extend the county sewer into those neighborhoods and require the residents to pay tap fees.
Pay a little higher taxes and get the right people in office and positions to fix it. It's easier than you think.
Around here a few years back, we had high bacteria in the beach water in an old waterfront neighborhoods where the houses were on septic systems. The solution was to extend the county sewer into those neighborhoods and require the residents to pay tap fees.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 1, 7:33am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 1, 7:33am
File my taxes again with no facial recognition, and received a paper check, because I don't link my account.
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GreaterNYCDude
2024 Apr 1, 8:14am
The whole tax system in the US is bizarre. Like most things, it's evolved into a quagmire designed to selectively reward certain people / industries / etc.
Upper middle class gets screwed. (And I suspect most of us here fall into that category) We make too much to qualify for most deductions / credits, but don't have FU money where are can pay accounts to set up tax advantaged trusts, shell LLCs or other complex instruments to legally minimize our tax burden.
Plus between federal, state, local, sales and use, excise taxes plus fees and other hidden charges, I'd say 50% of my gross income goes right back to the government leviathan in one way or another.
Upper middle class gets screwed. (And I suspect most of us here fall into that category) We make too much to qualify for most deductions / credits, but don't have FU money where are can pay accounts to set up tax advantaged trusts, shell LLCs or other complex instruments to legally minimize our tax burden.
Plus between federal, state, local, sales and use, excise taxes plus fees and other hidden charges, I'd say 50% of my gross income goes right back to the government leviathan in one way or another.
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WookieMan
2024 Apr 1, 8:56am
WookieMan
2024 Apr 1, 8:56am
HeadSet says
It happens. I'm not saying it doesn't. But there are separate systems for rain run off and shit/piss in pipes. Deplorable just doesn't understand how it works. I'm trying to show him. It only gets dumped in extreme rain events in most municipalities. Hence why I posted the video. Chicago was a swamp more so than FL. They've all but eliminated beaches that get contaminated in the last 10 years. Lake Michigan in Chicago almost has crystal clear Caribbean type water. Wasn't the case 20 years ago. This was about 12 years ago and the water clarity is only better and taken with an old ass iPhone.
Septic is a different animal as it's not public works, but private. Who knows what corners people cut there. Surprised if you're near a beach, on the East coast I believe where you're at that it's septic. Not saying it isn't. I know Florida has a lot of septic near water. Didn't think further north would.
Rain runoff is of no harm to waterways besides residual oil and chemicals, which isn't good either. Shit and piss are the biggest issues and generally go into a sewer pipe, not storm sewer.... unless you live in LA or SF where the toilet is the street.
WookieMan says
Pay a little higher taxes and get the right people in office and positions to fix it. It's easier than you think.
Around here a few years back, we had high bacteria in the beach water in an old waterfront neighborhoods where the houses were on septic systems. The solution was to extend the county sewer into those neighborhoods and require the residents to pay tap fees.
It happens. I'm not saying it doesn't. But there are separate systems for rain run off and shit/piss in pipes. Deplorable just doesn't understand how it works. I'm trying to show him. It only gets dumped in extreme rain events in most municipalities. Hence why I posted the video. Chicago was a swamp more so than FL. They've all but eliminated beaches that get contaminated in the last 10 years. Lake Michigan in Chicago almost has crystal clear Caribbean type water. Wasn't the case 20 years ago. This was about 12 years ago and the water clarity is only better and taken with an old ass iPhone.
Septic is a different animal as it's not public works, but private. Who knows what corners people cut there. Surprised if you're near a beach, on the East coast I believe where you're at that it's septic. Not saying it isn't. I know Florida has a lot of septic near water. Didn't think further north would.
Rain runoff is of no harm to waterways besides residual oil and chemicals, which isn't good either. Shit and piss are the biggest issues and generally go into a sewer pipe, not storm sewer.... unless you live in LA or SF where the toilet is the street.
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RWSGFY
2024 Apr 1, 8:59am
RWSGFY
2024 Apr 1, 8:59am
NuttBoxer says
Still waiting for "fecal recognition" to pop up
in my tax filing process. Another year and still nothing...
File my taxes again with no facial recognition, and received a paper check, because I don't link my account.
Still waiting for "fecal recognition" to pop up
in my tax filing process. Another year and still nothing...
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HeadSet
2024 Apr 1, 9:48am
HeadSet
2024 Apr 1, 9:48am
WookieMan says
We are in agreement here about storm drains and sewer systems. The septic systems I mentioned were legacy from when the county was rural and most houses had septic and well. As the population grew, sewers were put in. However, there are LOTS of properties in the still rural Virginia areas that are waterfront with a septic system:
Salt water:
Every dock you see on this river is attached to a property that has a house with septic.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/336-Loblolly-Rd-Weems-VA-22576/2054501457_zpid/
Fresh Water:
This is on Lake Gaston: All docks are attached to houses with septic.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/39-Saponi-Dr-Ebony-VA-23845/230525567_zpid/
Surprised if you're near a beach, on the East coast I believe where you're at that it's septic.
We are in agreement here about storm drains and sewer systems. The septic systems I mentioned were legacy from when the county was rural and most houses had septic and well. As the population grew, sewers were put in. However, there are LOTS of properties in the still rural Virginia areas that are waterfront with a septic system:
Salt water:
Every dock you see on this river is attached to a property that has a house with septic.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/336-Loblolly-Rd-Weems-VA-22576/2054501457_zpid/
Fresh Water:
This is on Lake Gaston: All docks are attached to houses with septic.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/39-Saponi-Dr-Ebony-VA-23845/230525567_zpid/
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The_Deplorable
2024 Apr 1, 9:49am
"Over Half of U.S. Beaches Had 'Potentially Unsafe' Levels of Poop Contamination Last Year."
See https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/over-half-u-beaches-had-204747164.html
WookieMan says
What is there to understand given that most beaches in the USA are contaminated with raw sewage?
You are arguing from ignorance, give it a rest.
See https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/over-half-u-beaches-had-204747164.html
WookieMan says
"You don't understand the systems."
What is there to understand given that most beaches in the USA are contaminated with raw sewage?
You are arguing from ignorance, give it a rest.
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WookieMan
2024 Apr 1, 10:11am
WookieMan
2024 Apr 1, 10:11am
The_Deplorable says
Because you don't understand the systems. You live in a shit area likely, with shitty infrastructure, that literally puts shit in the water. At no point have I said shit isn't getting in the water. The_Deplorable says
This is what you said. Headset pointed out septic. Gave examples. I'm sure there are zero drainage ditches or drains in your area. And if there are, everyone is dumping their shit in there....? You DON'T understand that people illegally hook up their rainwater collection, GUTTERS OR SUMP PUMP to the sewer itself. That is supposed to go into the STORM sewer, not the SHIT sewer. Hence why waste sewers have to dump the overflow because of idiots and your beaches get shit. You live around morons.
Waste treatment plants are based off the number of plumbing fixtures for public utilities. When you add water that should go into the ground you fuck the whole system up and they have to release sewage or it causes damage and a fuck ton of flack from the EPA. Again. You're out of you element on this.
As I commented on with Headset I basically said I don't know how the leech field effects water ways with septic. It's not a public entity. That's not my realm. Public for sure isn't your realm with sewers and storm sewers/drainage are public.
What is there to understand given that most beaches in the USA are contaminated with raw sewage?
You are arguing from ignorance, give it a rest.
Because you don't understand the systems. You live in a shit area likely, with shitty infrastructure, that literally puts shit in the water. At no point have I said shit isn't getting in the water. The_Deplorable says
No, we do not have separate storm sewers. That is why the entire East Coast of the
United States (for the most part) has Flesh-Eating Bacteria that can kill in less than
24 hours. Stay away.
This is what you said. Headset pointed out septic. Gave examples. I'm sure there are zero drainage ditches or drains in your area. And if there are, everyone is dumping their shit in there....? You DON'T understand that people illegally hook up their rainwater collection, GUTTERS OR SUMP PUMP to the sewer itself. That is supposed to go into the STORM sewer, not the SHIT sewer. Hence why waste sewers have to dump the overflow because of idiots and your beaches get shit. You live around morons.
Waste treatment plants are based off the number of plumbing fixtures for public utilities. When you add water that should go into the ground you fuck the whole system up and they have to release sewage or it causes damage and a fuck ton of flack from the EPA. Again. You're out of you element on this.
As I commented on with Headset I basically said I don't know how the leech field effects water ways with septic. It's not a public entity. That's not my realm. Public for sure isn't your realm with sewers and storm sewers/drainage are public.
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Until the 16th ammendment was passed in the early 1900's, we got by without fedetal income taxes. Tariffs did the trick. Of course, we were not yet the superpower we became, huge millitary and all, and there were not nearly the federally funded social programs we have today.
Frankly, I don't think your average American realizes how heavily they are taxed. Federal. State (with some excaptions) Property. School. Gas. Sales. Etc.
For most in the middle and upper middle class, federal income tax is the biggest share of taxes paid on a percentage basis.
In a modern captalist economy, it makes more sense to me to tax consumption rather than income.
So why not abolish the federal income tax, and instead have a federal tax on goods and services rendered. Better yet, couple it with a balanced budget amment so that the government can't spend money they don't have.
Taxing goods should be straightforward to implement. Buy a bag of rice, clothes, a house, a car, stock, etc. tax it at a nominal rate to raise sufficent revenue to keep the government running. Tax should apply to individuals and corporations alike. I have no idea what the rate would need to be to replace the lost income income revenue, but there must be a way for the been counters to figure that out.
Same holds for services. From your lawyer to your plumber to your accountant.. services rendered should also be taxed... possibly at a different rate than physical goods, since we are a "service based economy".
Just thinking out loud here.. In the 21st century there MUST be a better way to raise revenue than income tax and the various loopholes used to reduce or even avoid ones tax burden.