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Onvacation says

I prefer my little poodle. She's low maintenance and doesn't shed.

I prefer Samoyeds:



They DO shed, and TREMENDOUSLY, but they are very nice dogs, and they have no dander.

Tell me that's not gorgeous. They are not easy to own though, they really shed a lot of hair and to a degree you can't appreciate until you own one. It's like having 4 huskies when you only have 1 samoyed. But they are just wonderful dogs, if you are willing to vacuum constantly and comb them out at least once a week.

BTW, that dog just came from a grooming in the picture. I can tell by the fuzz of the picture. That only lasts for a couple of days after grooming. That's probably a dog that won some sort of championship. A normal Samoyed is more like this:



They are still gorgeous. That dog is on the verge of needing a bath, bet you can't tell. The fur isn't uniform, so it's sticking up in odd places, their color remains largely the same, but I can see dirt. Put a white samoyed in a bathtub, you end up with black water. It's so weird.

They really are living teddy bears, that shed tremendously. I adore those dogs. Glad they aren't popular anymore.

richwicks says

A normal Samoyed is more like this:

What a gorgeous dog! Look at that smile!

Ex had a Keeshond. Hair everywhere.

Pitbull's are protective of their people.

richwicks says

It's just willful ignorance.

Nope. Just don't care about people whining about shit constantly and not doing a damn thing about it. I'm an elected official for fucks sake. Let me know what you're doing to change a damn thing besides whining on the internet? I make change. Going to a meeting or something like that is lazy, we don't listen to you. Get involved. Your ignorance is maybe the most I've seen here on Patnet and that's saying a lot.

Onvacation says

Ex had a Keeshond. Hair everywhere.

I think Keeshonds might compete with the hair part. Samoyeds, just a nightmare of hair. They are such nice dogs, but you better have a great vacuum cleaner to have one. I had to comb them out at least once a week, and bath, oh my god. Start on Friday night, 3 hour walk to have them dry out to being just damp, next day, start grooming them, Sunday finish. 3 days to properly clean them, and that's once a month.

I love these dogs, but I'm never doing it again. They are gorgeous, but god, so much work to have one.

My neighbor in college had one, I fell in love with the damned thing, I wanted to have a dog, I joined rescue had NO IDEA or PLAN to adopt one, got two that really couldn't be adopted needed a ton of work, was stuck with them. A good experience, but so much work. I don't regret it at all, but I'm not going to do it again. I was the best possible owner for my two.

WookieMan says

Nope. Just don't care about people whining about shit constantly and not doing a damn thing about it. I'm an elected official for fucks sake. Let me know what you're doing to change a damn thing besides whining on the internet?

You're an elected official.

Let me know when you change a fucking thing. You're in the position to do it.

RWSGFY says

I walk mu dog past one fenced yard where 2 pitbulls reside. Every time we walk by they first bark
and jump at the fence but then they turn on each other and fight. Every. Single. Time.

This is pretty common if the barking dog is not the dominate one. The dominate dog is attempting to make the non-dominate calm down. I've seen this lots of times, different dogs, different breeds.

NuttBoxer says

RWSGFY says

I walk my dog past one fenced yard where 2 pitbulls reside. Every time we walk by they first bark
and jump at the fence but then they turn on each other and fight. Every. Single. Time.

This is pretty common if the barking dog is not the dominate one. The dominate dog is attempting to make the non-dominate calm down. I've seen this lots of times, different dogs, different breeds.

It's not necessarily that. Sometimes, the dog just wants to meet.

When I had my dogs, and was walking them around town, there were some times a dog that would go crazy behind a fence. They just wanted to meet. They were desperate to be in contact with another dog, not aggressive.

I had each of my dogs for 14 years (didn't entirely overlap, 2 years they didn't) and they just wanted to meet. Barking isn't necessarily a sign of aggression, but I bet it can be.

They are pack animals. I don't know if humanity alone is enough to satisfy their primal nature. They are basically a herd animal. They have a pack instinct. They want to join.

Regrettably, my female Samoyed, was terrified of other dogs. Something happened to her, and I could never fix it. Some asshole dog beat the fuck of her I think. Poor animal. She loved people, but was terrified of other dogs. I wish I could have fixed that in her lifetime. She could never play with other dogs. She was afraid of them and couldn't trust them. My other dog was the nicest dog imaginable, would back off and stand down when he went too far. She got along with him, but only him. He was the perfect dog for foster and rescue, he understood other dogs in a way I envy. He got along with everybody except one dog that attacked me, and I deserved it. I had to comb out and groom that dog, and he bit me, Kelsey never forgave him, which is a pity, because I wasn't that hurt and I went too far too quick. Coco was a good dog too, terribly abused, terrified of people.

I'm glad I had them all, but I cannot do it again. It really gives you a different viewpoint on life. I was lucky to stumble into what I had.

For sure. Most common behavior issues with most dogs stem from not being walked or properly trained. I didn't assume aggression in the example given at all. Aggression wouldn't cause one dog to appear to fight the other, but excitement would.

richwicks says

Let me know when you change a fucking thing. You're in the position to do it.

I am. In a big way. Just not federally. Let me know what you've done besides bitching at a meeting. Listen dude I may sound like I talk a big game, but I'm actually playing the game. My wife does too. I can't fucking sleep at night, am up at 4am and up till 2am getting shit done. 3 kids. Fucking do something and stop bitching.

WookieMan says

I am. In a big way. Just not federally. Let me know what you've done besides bitching at a meeting

I don't bitch at a meeting.

My job is to provide communications. The world hasn't changed in at least 30 years, we always had propaganda media, we always had bullshit, always. At LEAST for 30 years, perhaps much longer.

The difference is, you're aware of it now and I'm part of that effort.

You wouldn't even be able to talk it it wasn't for people like me. That's what I've worked on for 1/2 my life. I'm just a little cog in that machine, I don't know how much I've provided in that effort, but I've been part of that effort.

You can bitch and whine I dump here out of frustration, go ahead. The most fundamental thing is for you to SEE a problem. I can't fix the problems, but I sure as shit can expose them. I've sunk companies for pulling bullshit, and I was right to do it. You'll never know the company, you'll never know what I exposed. I've made SOME differences, but it's fatal to me to expose what I've done.

It's dangerous for me to even admit I've done this. However, companies need to realize they have people who will expose them and destroy them when they fucking break the law and we are nerds, I can silently and safely share information they will never identify me. Don't be assholes assholes.

There's a deficit of people like me within government.

Here's one I can discuss because it was such a large effort. I helped to destroy SCO Unix, Caldera. They tried to falsely claim that System V was placed into the Linux kernel. I'm ONE of the people that proved that was false. The attempt here was to scuttle Linux, which is what 90% of the Internet runs on. Because of SOME of my effort, Darl McBride is nobody. I helped ruin him but I was just small part, but I contributed, added information, helped to destroy that asshole.

You have no idea what wars even exist. You're in the surface, I'm in the guts. No soldier wins the war alone. I don't know what effect I've had, but I've been in plenty of battles.

WTF Samoyeds are doing in the pitbull thread? I've never heard of anyone killed or maimed by a Samoyed. It's literally fucking polar opposite of a pitbull.

Eric Holder says

WTF Samoyeds are doing in the pitbull thread? I've never heard of anyone killed or maimed by a Samoyed. It's literally fucking polar opposite of a pitbull.

I love them. That's why!

I like nearly any dog, but I love Samoyeds.

The dog that bit my nieces head looked a lot more like a Samoyed than a Pitbull(Siberian Husky). If you're into that genetic bullshit, what does that say...

If people are interested in facts rather than sensationalism:
https://www.avma.org/resources/pet-owners/why-breed-specific-legislation-not-answer
https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Of greatest interest are the facts that Pit Bulls carry very little genetic traits from their ancestors, and most of the time dogs breed determination is wrong.

The only dog that ever bit me was my Grampa's German Shepard. The only dog that ever bit at a family gathering was my Aunt's Siberian Husky. And my brother-in-law breeds American Bullies, that my daughter has been around since she was a year old. Same husky made my wife very uncomfortable when it was around same daughter one time we visited.

Husky. Must have sniffed a Pit Bull's butt and absorbed some of those dangerous genetics...
https://news.sky.com/story/couple-whose-siberian-husky-dog-mauled-their-three-month-old-baby-kyra-king-to-death-spared-jail-12939914

NuttBoxer says

The dog that bit my nieces head looked a lot more like a Samoyed than a Pitbull(Siberian Husky). If you're into that genetic bullshit, what does that say...

@NuttBoxer - the dog looked like this?



Are you sure it wasn't smaller, something like this?



The first is a Samoyed, the second is a Spitz. A Samoyed is little larger than a Siberian, but smaller than a malamute. A Spitz is a "toy dog".

Samoyeds are VERY rarely aggressive. The breed was created in what is now Siberia. They had 3 jobs - pull sleds, herd reindeer, and keep children warm at night. If the dog showed the SLIGHTEST bit of aggression, it was immediately killed.

I had a HORRIFICALLY abused Samoyed. He actually did bite me, I deserved it because I was forcibly combing him out, confident I could control him. He had to be combed out and groomed. He was a bit more flexible than I imagined. He bit me, then he defecated because he expected me to beat the hell out of him. He was terrified of me. I carried him into the crate, and cleaned out the wound. I carried him to show how strong I was, and how easily I could deal with him if he really wanted to fight.

That dog was so abused, that he wouldn't urinate or defecate in front of me. I had to get up, tie him to a light pole, leave him, and come back because his previous owner never took him out, and beat him savagely when he defecated or urinated in the home. That poor dog.

Even that dog I don't think would have bitten a random stranger. Certainly didn't trust people though. He might bite, but in defense then run. He would never maul somebody. When he not me, he got a good connection, realized what he'd done, then panicked.

Owners are the problems, but they are aggressive dogs regardless of what owners of them say. Same with German Shepards. Like it or not there are bad breeds of dogs. Trained well they might be good. Who in the flying fuck knows what triggers their aggressiveness? That's untrainable for the most part outside of professionals.

Buddy trained dogs and made really good money. The nasty dogs still did damage to people and kids. It's not like real estate with math and stats. You don't know if a dog will go crazy, ever.