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Black Hat or White Hat? This didn't materialize out of thin air this close to the election.

Ceffer says

Black Hat or White Hat? This didn't materialize out of thin air this close to the election.

Both sides did it. The ports think Biden will cave on invoking Taft-Hartley or whatever while the unions are prepared to slow shit down otherwise anyway, as that guy in the video sez.

It's totally lose-lose for Harris & Democrats.

If Biden intervenes, Trump will blast them as pro-Chyna, anti-American worker so that college elites can still get their spoiled brat goodies. If Biden doesn't and the ports shut down, Trump will have even more ammo to throw at Harris because the spillover job losses.

While the media has conspired to keep this off the air as much as possible.

Making imports more expensive is a good thing, as we need more manufacturing jobs in the US.

The fight against automation is absurd, just pushes our ports further behind.

Ports make a fortune.

RC2006 says

The fight against automation is absurd, just pushes our ports further behind.

Other countries have automated their ports. Unions fight it because scabs can't easily do their jobs in a strike but probably could if it were more automated.

RC2006 says

The fight against automation is absurd, just pushes our ports further behind.

Yep, and why should these assholes be protected from tech? Everyone else has been dealing with tech advancements for decades. This should be handled the same way Reagon handled the airport strike back in the day. Fire all of these fucks and put in scabs. If I understand correctly, most of these guys make well into the 6 figures with bennies you'd die for. Longshoremen don't work hard any more than a truck driver works.

zzyzzx says

Making imports more expensive is a good thing, as we need more manufacturing jobs in the US.

You'd have to change regs and increase competition. Lots of entrenched players in America and too many regs/red tape.

GNL says

Yep, and why should these assholes be protected from tech? Everyone else has been dealing with tech advancements for decades.

Agreed - these are guys are total asshole thugs.

Yeah - total scumbag.

"Harold Daggett, the ILA boss who pledged to "cripple" the United States, owns a 76-foot yacht, a Bentley, and gets paid over $900,000.

He was acquitted on RICO charges after the main witness against him, mobster Lawrence Ricci, was found decomposing in a car trunk in New Jersey."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1841157562344833334

GNL says

Longshoremen don't work hard any more than a truck driver works.

Truck driver works harder. It's more like an airport baggage handler. Truck driver is putting in max hours or he doesn't get hired if they're independent contractors. Of course within limits of the hours they can drive in 24 hours.

I know we have one on the board here, longshoreman, but can't remember the user name. Out in CA. The comparison to baggage handlers for flight is they load and move, then pause for the next plane and walk around. They get more breaks than anyone by default.

If there's not a container ship in port that YOU are unloading, what are you doing? It's not a constant flow. No different than the post office. Light mail day and you done in 6hrs instead of 10. But get paid 10. That's how it works from my understanding. They get to strike at least. USPS can't.

I not a fan of unions. I can live with prevailing wage laws though. Certain jobs should be higher than minimum wage. Unions are a racket. Wife's company had to drop 6 figures to make the unions go away even though they were paying the laborers the same amount as a union member. They were just trying to get union members jobs. It's legit mafia style. Legit threats. It's not Hollywood movie bullshit. It's real.

Unions made sense at one time, but those times should be done.

socal2 says

Yeah - total scumbag.

"Harold Daggett, the ILA boss who pledged to "cripple" the United States, owns a 76-foot yacht, a Bentley, and gets paid over $900,000.

He was acquitted on RICO charges after the main witness against him, mobster Lawrence Ricci, was found decomposing in a car trunk in New Jersey."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1841157562344833334

Sure he is.

It's his job to be. It's a fucking union.

Get used to it. More strikes are coming to America.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

Sure he is.

It's his job to be. It's a fucking union.

Get used to it. More strikes are coming to America.

And we wonder why unions drove so much industry and manufacturing out of this country with assholes like this holding the rest of the country hostage with crazy demands.

I get there is a balance of supporting a healthy domestic labor rate and workforce and not offshoring everything not tied down.

But thuggish mooks like this fucker does not make that argument easier.

Elon Musk had a funny post yesterday citing that this crook had more yahts than Elon - the richest man in the world!

socal2 says

And we wonder why unions drove so much industry and manufacturing out of this country with assholes like this holding the rest of the country hostage with crazy demands.

First of all, these aren't "crazy demands". They have the ports by the balls and are squeezing it for what they can. That's the union's job, actually.

The rest of the country is at fault for offshoring our manufacturing. This would never have had much impact pre-1971.

socal2 says

But thuggish mooks like this fucker does not make that argument easier.

He doesn't have to. You and all the other sudden 'labor experts' remind me of bitches having a fit over not being able to have an abortion in another state that they don't live in. It's ridiculous.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

This guy is doing his job. Doesn't matter if he has fifty yachts. Want to blame someone? How about Biden not enacting Taft-Hartley?
Seems Joe isn't doing his job. But go ahead and blame the asshole for taking advantage of the situation by throwing non sequitors about yachts.

So bitch about the union job Asshole Guy IS DOING but don't say a word about the POTUS who isn't doing his job. Brilliant!

When all this is over, union will get everything that they want AND BLOWJOBS DURING THEIR BREAK HOUR. The public will forget about this just like the forgot about the UPS strike a few years back (you bitch about that?) as they forgot about the BART strike that forced me to take a two hour bus into SF and back for a week. You bitch about that?

No. And it wouldn't have mattered anyway. Because you aren't a party to the bargaining table.

I have me issues with uinions. Mostly public sector ones (should be outlawed). But striking ones who do so very strategically like the UAW has done and now these guys, I have to say, "good for them."

US made products don't get stuck on cargo ships and the longshoreman and the Chinese shippers have no power over them.

Another massive inefficiency of very expensive "Free" Trade.

https://www.thefp.com/p/longshoremen-strike-dockworkers-daggett-labor-union

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

He doesn't have to. You and all the other sudden 'labor experts' remind me of bitches having a fit over not being able to have an abortion in another state that they don't live in. It's ridiculous.

Dude - I have dealt with Public Sector Unions and their bullshit for 30+ years in my line of work in heavy water industry. I am a licensed Contractor in California and have seen their bullshit prevailing wage laws make it nearly impossible to build anything in California that doesn't cost 3X the standard price - resulting in high taxes and shitty infrastructure.

City's can barely afford to pay their high priced union labor, so taxpayers have to pay higher taxes to get reduced and shittier services. This causes a doom loop where people flee California and the tax base shrinks. Even when cities go bankrupt (thanks to egregious union salaries and pensions) everyone but the union members suffer as California basically enshrines the corrupt Public Sector Unions pay in our State Constitution.

This mob fucker (who inherited the job from his Dad) not only wants 70% labor increase for his mobbed up friends, he wants to keep US ports in a primitive status in perpetuity with no technological improvements.

Fuck him and fuck all the retards who think this guy is on our side because some Teamster members like Trump.

socal2 says

Dude - I have dealt with Public Sector Unions and their bullshit for 30+ years

Learn to FUCKING READ:

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

I have me issues with uinions. Mostly public sector ones (should be outlawed).