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Your Prediction: Who Wins & Why?


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2024 Oct 28, 9:35am   639 views  76 comments

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Personally, I honestly don't know because there are far too many variables, such as cheating along with a possible late 'October Surprise.' But, if I absolutely had to make a choice, I'd lean towards picking Trump due to the energy factor, which appears to have shifted dramatically towards Trump. Another is that Trump has a slight lead in the national popular vote numbers; a true rarity for modern day Republican Presidential candidates. That indicates to me that, if true, the Trump numbers must be quite high in the battleground states in order to overcome the big popular vote numbers in California, New York, Illinois & the New England states. Obviously, if he wins a slight majority of the battleground states, he wins the election.

I'll go out on a limb and call it for Trump. What's your take?

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4   Ceffer   2024 Oct 28, 11:32am  

If Kamala is defeated, poor reptilians will have to go without the baby meat treats industrialized by the Dems and fed to them. They'll have to come to the surface and do their own hunting.
5   WookieMan   2024 Oct 28, 1:29pm  

Patrick says

I think it will be Trump by a landslide unless they turn the cheating up to 11 this time.

They ain't cheating their way out of this one. I'm an independent and do look at leftist media. Nothing compelling. Walz is a doofus. JD is solid as I've watched more of him. Kamala is pure trash, hands down. Never registered for a party or gone straight down ballot by party.

The west coast and IL are going to be the only blue things you see on the map. Maybe NY or MN. I think 320 or higher. I legit don't take IL or NY off the table either though. MN would be the most likely to flip. Trump only needs to win WI or PA. Or PA and MI and it's still a landslide. He could lose AZ and NV which doesn't look likely in that scenario.
6   WookieMan   2024 Oct 28, 1:32pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

Don't we already have a thread for this?

https://patrick.net/post/1382101/2024-09-18-polls-betting-markets-and-election

We have about 50 covid threads. This type of posting isn't new. It annoys me, but you can't stop it. How about the Chinese fuck spamming the site? I find that to be a bigger problem. Not racist, but no one will stick around when they see Chinese bull shit on the forum. They'll think the site is sketchy.
7   PeopleUnited   2024 Oct 28, 4:47pm  

WookieMan says

How about the Chinese fuck spamming the site?

I g n o r e -works well for spammers.
8   WookieMan   2024 Oct 28, 5:17pm  

PeopleUnited says

WookieMan says


How about the Chinese fuck spamming the site?

I g n o r e -works well for spammers.

I don't want to ignore anyone. I know this site isn't monetized but it could be in the future. It would be a good bet to get rid of this person. Ohomen will respond from time to time. This Chinese guy doesn't. And posts 5-6 times a day.
9   PeopleUnited   2024 Oct 28, 8:05pm  

Ignore is kinda like auto sort function in inbasket/email. You can always shut it off but it saves time and reduces annoyances.
10   WookieMan   2024 Oct 28, 8:13pm  

PeopleUnited says

Ignore is kinda like auto sort function in inbasket/email. You can always shut it off but it saves time and reduces annoyances.

Your average American that stumbles on this site though and see Chinese writing is going to run. Racist or whatever, it's fact. Don't need/want an echo chamber, but it would be nice to get some more regular commenters. I feel like 90% of you guys are "online family" at this point. Would be nice to have more kids so to speak. The format the guy posts in doesn't work and will turn people away and doesn't comment/respond.
11   PeopleUnited   2024 Oct 28, 8:21pm  

Perhaps there should be a rule, making English the official Patnet language and limiting use of other language except if there is no English word available to express an idea. Like baizou.
12   ForcedTQ   2024 Oct 28, 8:24pm  

I am with you guys as to who should win this. But I also think they will cheat like they’ve never cheated before, the establishment bureaucracy that is. I think they want to put us all in our place for thinking that we have a choice and wanting to get legitimate Constitutional Republic government back in place.

To add to it, this explains a bit about what my thoughts are: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/six-days-sunday-and-continuity-government-last-refuge
13   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2024 Oct 28, 9:09pm  

Trump and Republican sweep.

Republicans 55 Senate seats, 235+ house seats
14   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2024 Oct 28, 9:17pm  

I live in a split suburb of Los Angeles. During the city council races a couple years ago the lefty had signs everywhere and I do mean everywhere along with the retarded “we believe in science” and other similar non contextual nonsense.

There’s one Harris Walz sign. One. There’s about ten Trump signs.
15   WookieMan   2024 Oct 28, 9:38pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

I live in a split suburb of Los Angeles. During the city council races a couple years ago the lefty had signs everywhere and I do mean everywhere along with the retarded “we believe in science” and other similar non contextual nonsense.

There’s one Harris Walz sign. One. There’s about ten Trump signs.

Signs are relatively important when it comes to Trump. I could be wrong, but you take a massive risk putting that in your yard. Or at least to. That's how unliked Kamala is. That's why I think it's a landslide.
16   zzyzzx   2024 Oct 29, 11:34am  

Even in Maryland Trump sings wildly outnumber Harris signs, and there are way more Trump signs, and in more suburban and urban locations.
17   WookieMan   2024 Oct 29, 11:59am  

zzyzzx says

Even in Maryland Trump sings wildly outnumber Harris signs, and there are way more Trump signs, and in more suburban and urban locations.

I've noticed the same. My town is technically Trump country, but extremely different than 2016 and 2020. But even driving around the suburbs I'm not seeing Harris signs. 10:1 ratio in suburbs that are typically hard blue. I don't think anyone likes her.
19   GreaterNYCDude   2024 Oct 29, 2:35pm  

Trump but not by a landslide. It's gonna be close mostly because swing states are too close to call.

277 to 271.

Trump claims PA and an electoral college win.

Dems allege inconsistencies and / or voter suppression and sue to try and overturn the results.

Just like in 2016 anyone voting R will show up in mass to counteract the impact of the blue cities.

The divide in this country is, more than anything Urban vs. Rural and those who produce vs those who take.

Economy being more important than anything else: illegals, guns, abortion .. all play second fiddle to peoples pocket books.
20   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 29, 2:46pm  

Trump will win like in 2020. And also like in 2020, the election will be stolen.
21   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 29, 2:47pm  

GreaterNYCDude says

Just like in 2016 anyone voting R will show up in mass to counteract the impact of the blue cities.


Yes. Trump will win like in 2020. And also like in 2020, the election will be stolen.
22   RayAmerica   2024 Oct 29, 3:32pm  

First, a disclaimer; I don't like Karl Rove and I never did. He's a Bushie and a forever Trump hater and that's what makes this prediction have a little more credibility because Rove would probably choose Harris over Trump.

“Race Is Over”: Karl Rove Breaks Down a Scenario Where Trump Would Only Need Either Georgia, Michigan, or Pennsylvania to Win

See video here:

https://thelibertydaily.com/race-is-karl-rove-breaks-down-scenario-where/
23   Ceffer   2024 Oct 29, 4:10pm  

They will go full bore ahead with election fraud as before, because if they can't win, they hope to start another civil war. Their goal is the destruction of the Republic, the Constitution, and, of course, igniting WWIII. Their charter is psychopathic demonology.

Best we can hope for is that the Trump team has a viable counter strategy.
24   clambo   2024 Oct 29, 4:18pm  

I predict Trump will win; I predict there will be massive cheating by the scumbag democrats.
In almost a month in ultra liberal Santa Cruz, California, I only saw about 8 Harris signs and two bumper stickers from Westside Santa Cruz to Capitola to Aptos.
If nobody liked Kamala during the primary, why would they suddenly like her now?
I'm going to be the most obnoxious asshole if Trump wins; on Facebook I will offer a free bottle of tequila to the losers to help them wash away their liberal tears.
25   Patrick   2024 Oct 29, 6:53pm  

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/reader-question-what-happened-in


Young folks like Adin Ross and others understand that our government hunted Trump like an animal. They became invested in the story of this guy the government kept indicting and trying to put him in jail. And, of course, then he was shot, and that sent him into the stratosphere.

Despite how hard they tried, they could not make the young ones hate Trump. It’s the Hero’s Journey. And that will always be hard to resist.

I think people are tired of the one long winter by the Democrats. It’s just a bummer world. I think Americans are tired of it by now. They just want out.

The Democrats had four years to show us they could make the country all they promised — better than Trump. But they didn’t. For some of them, for many of them, it’s fine. They like having absolute control. But look around. The movies suck. The comedy sucks. Nothing is fun anymore, and people don’t want to have everything they say and think judged.
26   porkchopXpress   2024 Oct 29, 6:56pm  

Patrick says

I think it will be Trump by a landslide unless they turn the cheating up to 11 this time.

Even the mildly retarded can see that Kamala is an incompetent diversity hire who should be nowhere near any real power.

It's also glaringly obvious in the grocery stores that the current Biden-Harris administration fucked over the poor especially.

This 1000%. In a fair election, Trump would annihilate Kamala. It's now a matter of the fraud factor and if they can continue to get away with it. Just watch in the days after Election Day.
30   RWSGFY   2024 Oct 30, 8:17am  




WTF with this AA shit?
31   LAOwner0000   2024 Oct 30, 8:33am  

GreaterNYCDude says

Trump but not by a landslide. It's gonna be close mostly because swing states are too close to call.

277 to 271.

Trump claims PA and an electoral college win.

Dems allege inconsistencies and / or voter suppression and sue to try and overturn the results.

Just like in 2016 anyone voting R will show up in mass to counteract the impact of the blue cities.

The divide in this country is, more than anything Urban vs. Rural and those who produce vs those who take.

Economy being more important than anything else: illegals, guns, abortion .. all play second fiddle to peoples pocket books.


If people vote the economy then Harris should win by a landslide. My net worth is almost 3x what it was in 2020. Inflation is a non issue for anyone invested in tech stocks the past 4 years. NVDA, META, CVNA, NFLX…. If you got some exposure to these stocks the past years or even just a tech ETF fund, own a home, and kept your job…. Who should be the majority of people … you are guaranteed to have doubled your net worth at minimum.

The only way Trump wins is if people are angry enough at social trans rights and were personally affected by crime to vote against their own pocketbooks.
32   LAOwner0000   2024 Oct 30, 8:40am  

Trump and Fox News continue to try to gaslight everyone that the economy is bad. It’s just a fact that anybody with a financial IQ above mildly retarded, who kept a job, lived within their means, owns a home and invested in tech stocks the past 4 years should be swimming in cash and planning early retirement.

Even people who went balls deep on Bitcoin as a hedge against Biden inflation are up dramatically. It’s actually hard to not be much wealthier in 2024 vs 2020…
33   goofus   2024 Oct 30, 8:45am  

Is that a winning strategy? “If you’re poor, you’re stupid. Vote Harris!”
34   AD   2024 Oct 30, 8:49am  

LAOwner0000 says


anybody with a financial IQ above mildly retarded, who kept a job, lived within their means, owns a home and invested in tech stocks the past 4 years should be swimming in cash and planning early retirement


What about the bottom ~60% that don't own a home, did not invest in tech stocks AND are not swimming in cash ?

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35   goofus   2024 Oct 30, 8:53am  

My predictions: Trump will surprise with some states much closer than anticipated, hopefully overwhelming Harris’ ground game. She’ll stuff ballots (no postmark needed in NV 🙄), bring illegals to vote (happening in PA), and so on.

If her numbers are as bad as they seem though, they’ll activate the shock troops - the antifa types that respond to the nazi/Hitler/MSG bs with credulity and fear. I think that’s the main purpose of the recent “nazi nazi” messaging: a siren call to the loonies to “bash the fash.” This works as well if the Harris campaign cheats and Trump supporters protest it. Go oppose “those nazis.”
36   RC2006   2024 Oct 30, 9:17am  

AD says

LAOwner0000 says



anybody with a financial IQ above mildly retarded, who kept a job, lived within their means, owns a home and invested in tech stocks the past 4 years should be swimming in cash and planning early retirement


What about the bottom ~60% that don't own a home, did not invest in tech stocks AND are not swimming in cash ?

.


Also the real value of all the increases in the housing and stock market are from inflation. If you sold your inflated house for another there is no gain. Wages have not kept up with inflation. All of my assets have doubled, so what it's not like I'm selling anything. My income has went up a lot since 2020 but it increased as fast as everything else.
Younger people that haven't had the chance to build up assets like most of us on here. They are being fucked over and priced out, what are they going to do just wait around for us all to die. My children's generation has been looted.
37   Ceffer   2024 Oct 30, 9:26am  

I think this is propaganda bullshit designed to 'scare' other Mockingbird media into the knee jerk endorsement of the KamalaToe train wreck. How would they possibly be able to count and know this so soon? It's impossible, just another lie/assertion fallacy added to the stack.

https://t.me/STFNREPORT/34173
38   mell   2024 Oct 30, 9:27am  

RC2006 says

Also the real value of all the increases in the housing and stock market are from inflation. If you sold your inflated house for another there is no gain. Wages have not kept up with inflation. All of my assets have doubled, so what it's not like I'm selling anything. My income has went up a lot since 2020 but it increased as fast as everything else.
Younger people that haven't had the chance to build up assets like most of us on here. They are being fucked over and priced out, what are they going to do just wait around for us all to die. My children's generation has been looted.

Correct, that's why one needs to keep investing.The boomers looted most of it, some bragging about their 7th bionic knee surgery without paying a dime on Medicare at my local gym. The youth goes left because they can't see the real cause of their financial pillage. But when leftoid Marxism will make it only worse for them, they'll steer hard right. It's starting to happen in other countries as well. Fire the globalist boomfucks!
39   Ceffer   2024 Oct 30, 9:58am  

KILL THE BOOMFUCKS! KILL THEM ALL! THE APOTHEOSIS OF EVIL!

Maybe just mug them of their assets and toss them in the gutter humanely. Might find a lot less there than expected.
40   HeadSet   2024 Oct 30, 10:00am  

LAOwner0000 says

If people vote the economy then Harris should win by a landslide.

Nonsense. Your whole premise is that high inflation is great. Inflation benefits from those with first access to the money (the very rich) while everyone else takes it in the shorts. So what if someone's house "value" increases their paper net worth? That is not spendable money and causes true out of pocket expenses to increase such as property tax. Plus, when one sells and moves, the replacement house also has an inflated value along with higher commissions and transaction costs. People who do not own homes will see their rents increase. As for stock ownership, the top 10% own about 90% of the stocks. The middle income tend to own stocks in 401Ks and the like, while the lower class hardly own stocks at all. As far as you saying people should have invested in tech stocks, well that is easy to say after the fact. Why did you not invest in Future Fuels (FF)? After all, you could have bought it for sixty cents a share in early 2024, and it is worth over $6 today.

It must be extremely rare for someone's net worth to "triple" just because of Biden-Harris high inflation. I am one of those who should have "benefited" from inflation - I own a paid for house that inflated to $1million, I have over $1million in laddered CDs that saw the rates climb from just below 1% to around 5%, and I have over $1.5 million in stocks (some tech like Apple and Micron, some not, though all pay dividends). My net worth did not triple. It took me several decades to accumulate my net worth, and I do not want to see the value of my savings inflated away. Even more so, I want a stable economy so that the next generation can acquire wealth. Without a stable economy, it will be a war between old folks like me who were able to accumulate assets when those assets were affordable, and the young who cannot afford to save because high inflation eats all their earnings.

Did your California house triple in "value?"
41   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 30, 10:16am  

LAOwner0000 says


If people vote the economy then Harris should win by a landslide. My net worth is almost 3x what it was in 2020. Inflation is a non issue for anyone invested in tech stocks the past 4 years. If you got some exposure to these stocks the past years or even just a tech ETF fund, own a home, and kept your job…. Who should be the majority of people.


This here is a perfect example of those clueless about how Working Class America lives. Like when Queen Antionette supposedly said, "Let them eat cake" about the peasants getting upset because that is what she would do whenever she got upset.

@LAOwner0000 is either deliberately trolling...or like Queen Antoinette, is genuinely in such a bubble as to be utterly clueless as per the above.

Earth to @LAOwner0000. Earth to @LAOwner0000. Ummmm...what was the ultimate fate of Queen Antionette and all the other Bubble Dwellers of her time?
42   Ceffer   2024 Oct 30, 10:29am  

AD says


LAOwner0000 says


anybody with a financial IQ above mildly retarded, who kept a job, lived within their means, owns a home and invested in tech stocks the past 4 years should be swimming in cash and planning early retirement


What about the bottom ~60% that don't own a home, did not invest in tech stocks AND are not swimming in cash ?

.


Ludicrous election year assertion fallacy from a bot? I have all of those things and my after inflation remainders, even with the recent artificial stock market goosings and increases, have a real spending power of at least 25 percent less, maybe more, since Biden Actor et alia. Pretty steep inflation taxation to support DC sending bales of money to Ukraine etc. just to launder back to Congress while infrastructure crumbles in USA. Everything foreign occupied DC does now, no matter what virtue signaling garbage they call it, is money laundering by another name.

My older usually liberal friend noticed that his spending power dropped from his pensions and social security. It doesn't hurt until it's in your front yard, then wham. You can only have the delusions you can afford, and he seems to be deciding he can't afford the delusions any more.
He has been amenable to being talked off the LibbyFuck ledge.
43   mell   2024 Oct 30, 10:32am  

Ceffer says

KILL THE BOOMFUCKS! KILL THEM ALL! THE APOTHEOSIS OF EVIL!

Maybe just mug them of their assets and toss them in the gutter humanely. Might find a lot less there than expected.

That won't be necessary, just reform medicare and let them pay their fair share. You should get paid out what you paid in, inflation adjusted, no other "guaranteed" gains or coverages. Maybe remove the taxes on it for those who take a lumpsum and manage their own care. Less govt at work the better. Also wtf is this glp1 for all bs, same for statins and diabetes. Favor lifestyle changes over paying for costly drugs which don't work. There are some truly great drugs out there and a lot of innovation, but they get buried by BP selling their shit backed by govt.

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