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Yes, exactly! Corporations were intended to be temporary groups of people acting together to accomplish a specific limited project with an end date.

Now corporations are immortal, like cancer cells.

The real problem is that Good's are divorced from the average wage due to imports and credit cards. It's a far bigger contributor to unaffordability most think.

Everything is happening exactly as Ross Perot said it would.

Dependence on imports creates debt pressure to finance the deficits. Both public AND private.

Don't worry though, China is going to have a liberal government anytime now 😂

AmericanKulak says

Dependence on imports creates debt pressure to finance the deficits.

You are confusing trade deficits vs budget deficits, it seems.

Patrick says

PeopleUnited says

It won’t be fixed until the people say enough is enough and demand change.

Even if most people see the problem and demand change, the government is firmly in the hands of mega-corporations like UnitedHealth and acts solely in the interests of those corporations at all times.

Frustration with this state of affairs seems to be what motivated the shooting of that CEO.

We have a great Constitution, but it failed to anticipate the possibility of complete corporate control of Congress. Maybe one solution is to let the people directly vote on the renewal of corporate charters every five years. Extremely evil corporations like UnitedHealth and Pfizer would have their permission to be corporations revoked, resulting in personal liability for those running the companies.

Exactly - corporations were never imagined to be immortal. Finite limits to corporate charters. This achieves two things 1) There is no benefit to psychos to control something that is guaranteed dead after 5 years. 2) It puts the onus on Federal or State legislatures to take more direct control over corporations. Yes, there can be corruption, but legislators, in the absence of vote corruption, are probably more responsible than corporate dark-triad psycho CEOs.

stereotomy says

Yes, there can be corruption, but legislators, in the absence of vote corruption, are probably more responsible than corporate dark-triad psycho CEOs.

Both the Republican National Committee and the Democratic National Committee are private corporations and each have complete control over the business and activities of their organizations. Source: https://www.drmikekatz.com/the_dnc_and_rnc_are_private_corporations

Patrick says

Even if most people see the problem and demand change, the government is firmly in the hands of mega-corporations like UnitedHealth and acts solely in the interests of those corporations at all times.

I think its the other way around; corporation balls are in the hands of the government; if the corporations don't do the government department head bidding, he/she will squeeze the corporation balls one way or the other. At best, they are 69ing.

@gabbar You're right that corporations which do not obey the CIA and State Department get "investigated" for imaginary crimes.

Facebook found itself threatened by the government when it hesitated to completely censor the vast number of serious injuries and deaths caused by the mRNA injections, for example. Elon Musk's companies are now being "investigated" in a similar way.

Google, however, is itself an arm of the CIA at this point, a way for them to efficiently spy on all the Gmail and search habits of America.

So I agree that they're 69ing. And they do this partly to prevent the free market from working. If, say, a new company displaced Google, then the ability of the government to spy on all of us would be greatly reduced. Therefore, no such new company will be allowed to grow - unless they agree to give all their user info to the CIA.

Marc Andreessen just remarked on this - how he was explicitly told not to bother founding any AI companies, but only the three or so now in existence will be allowed, because the government can control them. No competing AI companies will be allowed to gain any substantial market share. Lol, I see that you yourself commented on this:

https://patrick.net/post/1382778/2024-12-03-marc-andreessen-at-joe-rogan-podcast?start=1#comment-2123357

stereotomy says

corporations were never imagined to be immortal.

That was the way it started out with corporations. They had a limited defined purpose with a beginning, a middle and a defined end.

The foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC is a corporate zombie, since the foreign corporations are completely dead bankrupt, but Congress keeps them lurching on by fiat legislation because they are the source of all the corrupt bounties.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

You are confusing trade deficits vs budget deficits, it seems.

No, I'm conflating them on purpose. Trade deficits inevitably lead to budget deficits.

AmericanKulak says

Trade deficits inevitably lead to budget deficits.

No, they don't.

Patrick says

Google, however, is itself an arm of the CIA at this point, a way for them to efficiently spy on all the Gmail and search habits of America.

UnitedHealth Care may be the Google in health insurance industry.

gabbar says

Patrick says

Google, however, is itself an arm of the CIA at this point, a way for them to efficiently spy on all the Gmail and search habits of America.

UnitedHealth Care may be the Google in health insurance industry.

While true likely, you don't just go killing people because you don't like their company. 2-3 body guards at $100-150k/yr a piece is nothing sauce. $20k on a security system at home. Fencing. Bullet proof windows. Oh goodness I spent X amount of dollars AND EXPENSE it to the company.

I guess it creates jobs, but now CEO's are likely getting security detail. Guess what? They just pass that onto the costumer and your rates go up.

First you just don't kill other humans. I don't care how much disdain you have. Regardless of not allowing a claim or whatever, there are alternative that don't involve killing. The CEO never even made a decision on a claim. That's 3-4 levels down. Are they good people, no, but there are a ton more bad people out there that are worse.

gabbar says

WookieMan says

Killing a man with kids is awful.

Did the actions of this man, the company he was the CEO of and other companies in this industry harm the lives of Americans? Who committed the greater harm, Luigi or Brian?

The only way to fight bad practices is stop buying from them. Everyone should stop buying health insurance for 5 years. Everyone should stop borrowing for 5 years etc etc.

Patrick says

Marc Andreessen just remarked on this - how he was explicitly told not to bother founding any AI companies, but only the three or so now in existence will be allowed, because the government can control them.

Do you know which 3 companies?

GNL says

Patrick says

Marc Andreessen just remarked on this - how he was explicitly told not to bother founding any AI companies, but only the three or so now in existence will be allowed, because the government can control them.

Do you know which 3 companies?

I read all this AI hype. I just don't give a shit as I'm anecdotal. If I didn't see it I don't believe it. Maybe I miss out on real stuff, but I don't care. No clue if Trump is even real. Haven't met him. I deal with real people I know and see things I know are real. It's why I stopped watching TV and most modern movies. Radio never on in the car.

Probably better for the meme thread, but I can't stand them. I like written personal thoughts. Not a fucking picture book. I know that will piss some off, but just write. I don't like quotes from other peoples articles that are probably made up articles and you wouldn't know. What are YOUR thoughts, not someone else's.

WookieMan says

Are they good people, no, but there are a ton more bad people out there that are worse.

GNL says

Do you know which 3 companies?

No, but the point is only that there will be pretend competition while the government is actually in charge, to control what people see and to spy on what questions they're asking.

Reminds me of the Apple / Android duopoly in phone operating systems.

GNL says

Everyone should stop buying health insurance for 5 years.

Yes, but they have made it illegal not to buy health insurance. That obligation for the public to buy a private product used to be the core scam of Obamacare, and it's still the law in California.

AmericanKulak says

Trade deficits inevitably lead to budget deficits.

I don't know enough macro economics to understand this. So if a country runs an overall trade deficit, does that mean that its government will borrow to make up the difference?

Patrick says

So if a country runs an overall trade deficit, does that mean that its government will borrow to make up the difference?

Trade deficits and budget deficits are two different things. One does not automatically cause the other.

For over two decades, Italy and Japan have had mostly consistent trade surpluses yet enormous and consistent budget deficits, for example.

PeopleUnited says

WookieMan says

Are they good people, no, but there are a ton more bad people out there that are worse.

I disagree here. Fauci is a shit head for sure. Do what you want with him (legally). Who is the fucking actual scientist that thought this was something they should do work on? Creating a virus? Who did the work?

You could maybe bring up AIDS as an example, but what disease or virus REALLY has been deadly in the last 60- 70 years. Ebola? Nothing there.

We've learned you don't fuck men in the butt if you don't want to take a cock(tail) of pills. Covid was a joke. I don't even know how Ebola is transmitted. Malaria and shitting your pants is the biggest concern traveling abroad.

Cleanliness was our issue and we fixed that with running water and sewers. There's no need to research or make a virus in a lab, that doesn't fucking exist. The scientist knew it was wrong and still did the actual work. That's who we should be going after. This isn't the 1500's with some plague as you're swimming in your own piss, shit, blood and vomit.

Whole thing was staged. Like Ole Dammegard says, don't look at the managed stage play, look for what ISN'T there but should be.

There were two direct witnesses, the person who was right there and dodged when they saw/heard gun and somebody in the vehicle on the curb. Not a peep, nada, no interviews, nothing revealed about these characters as well as the complete void of characteristic follow up. All we have is the blaring spotlight bullhorn on the designated patsy. The lack of designated appropriate follow up is a common theme of the Intel/Deep State movies these days, substituted by media glare on a magician's distracting narradigm.

It's like Trump's Pennsylvania 'assassination' where not even the slightest gesture of proper procedures for crime scenes were followed.

WookieMan says

Who is the fucking actual scientist that thought this was something they should do work on? Creating a virus? Who did the work?

Fauci and others whose names we don’t know, collaborated with Eco Health Alliance to off shore gain of function research when it was banned by Obama. Fauci is responsible for the creation of the virus. And the virus did kill people. Perhaps not as many as the ill advised responses to the virus, but under certain circumstances/ in the right person that frankenvirus will kill. The initial strains were likely the most deadly, the ones that escaped to the US were less lethal.

Yes, it was Fauci who created the virus in Wuhan, and it did knock off quite a few elderly who were on death's door anyway. Proof of that is that the average age of a virus death was greater than the average age of death overall.

The timing of the plandemic, right after two failed impeachments of Trump, strongly suggest that it was deliberately released to destroy Trump's excellent economy and provide the excuse for mass mail-in ballots, which are trivially easy to use for fraud.

Why has Fauci not been prosecuted? There is a clear paper trail showing his funding of the people creating the virus in Wuhan.

WookieMan says

I don't even know how Ebola is transmitted.

I think it's transmitted via the blood of the dying. Supposedly Ebola makes you bleed from every orifice, including the eyes.

On the bright side, it seems pretty easy to control that kind of transmission, unlike Fauci's virus, which is transmitted just by breathing near an infected person.

Luigi's trial will be blown up into a national spectacle while a bunch of important issues will be sidelined. OJ Simpson Trial Part 2. Mainstream media will take Brian Thompson's side. Social media Luigi's.

Luigi did nothing wrong

It is at least understandable that when a government squanders all its credibility protecting criminals that the people will eventually administer justice themselves.

The first job of any government is to fairly enforce justice, and our government has utterly failed at that most basic task:

- no prosecution of any Epstein Island pedophile
- no prosecution of the Biden Crime Family for their openly run bribery scheme
- no prosecution of Fauci for overtly breaking the law by developing the virus in Wuhan
- no prosecution of top "public health" officials for lying to the public about the danger and inefficacy of the death jabs
- no investigation of the obvious and massive election fraud of 2020
- no investigation of Pelosi and the FBI for their Jan 6th entrapment scheme against the election fraud protestors
- no prosecution of the perpetrators of the Russia Hoax
- overt abuse of the "justice" system to convict Trump of bogus charges

And on and on and on...

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/losing-alignment-why-have-establishment

Our rulers ought to appease the restless masses by preempting their political demands – not because they are happy benevolent paternalistic overseers with our best interests at heart, because it is in their interests to do so.

In the United States they should’ve dialled back the racial egalitarianism and the transgender nonsense as soon as it started to generate serious pushback, and they should’ve taken steps to restrict migration before Trump ever came within reach of the Oval Office. Here in Europe, they should be winding down climatism and also taking any number of steps to close the borders. Yet they are either not doing these things, or they are not doing them hard enough.

As popular sentiment drifts away from them, the elite here in Germany if anything have grown more radicalised. The United States witnessed a similar dynamic well through Biden’s presidency – one that ultimately cost the American establishment not only the presidency and the legislature, but also all initiative for the next two years at least. In older and more pacified Europe, our rulers mostly retain command of their governments, but they are losing control of the political dynamics nonetheless.

“eugyppius,” my critics will say, “you are being very naive.” (My critics love to call me naive.) “The elites want to deindustrialise Europe. They don’t care if it makes people mad. They want to import a new client class. They don’t care if it inflames the populist opposition.”

(paywall)

Why are the elite continuing with actions which will surely get them massacred in the long run?

Patrick says

- no prosecution of any Epstein Island pedophile

Where IS that list?

Did we already find out if any and all copies were erased "by mistake" during routine IT cleanup of FBI servers?

PeopleUnited says

Fauci is responsible for the creation of the virus.

Who were the scientist that MADE the virus? They could have said no. Gotten another scientific job. Fauci gave them money. He had no clue what was really going on likely. This is not in defense of Fauci, I just think he's an idiot and no clue what was going on.

Guilty of something? Probably. But who were the scientist literally working on creating a bull shit virus? Some other big wig would just fill in for Fauci if you hang him. The scientist that did it will keep doing work unpunished. Chang Wang over in Wuhan should be hung. Make it so scientist don't want to work on shit like this. These cats are just laughing if Fauci takes the fall. It needs to be everyone involved even down to the guy in a lab coat.

WookieMan says

I read all this AI hype.

Yeah, it's really being pushed. I'm currently interviewing marketing consultants. I avoid anyone who utters the AI schtick.

WookieMan says

Who were the scientist that MADE the virus?

Peter Daszak and the bat lady.

https://patrick.net/post/1339251/2021-05-16-incredibly-long-detailed-evidence-that

WookieMan says

This is not in defense of Fauci, I just think he's an idiot and no clue what was going on.

Nah, it all looks quite deliberate on Fauci's part, especially given his history of crime:

https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/04/Fauci-Criminal-History-of-Medical-Conspiracy.html

See also Kennedy's book "The Real Anthony Fauci".

WookieMan says

Some other big wig would just fill in for Fauci if you hang him.

I think if it became clear that such crimes against humanity actually will be punished severely, there would be a sudden shortage of other administrators willing to commit similar mass murders. But only as long as it is clear that our justice system is functional even against people like Fauci working for the DoD. Right now, the opposite is clear: mass murder will not be prosecuted as long as the murderer is well-connected.

No problem with Fauci being punished. My point is there were the actual scientist that worked on this and agreed to. The physical work, not the money.

Trust me, in real estate there are plenty of shenanigans. I would tell my boss a resounding fuck no. Not being hyperbolic. If I think it's wrong, I say something. The lab coat people stayed quiet.

You know when something is wrong or right with science. There was no reason to be messing with bats and a virus. If it happened naturally guess what, no one would have known. So what was the point? Scientist should know better.

Fauci's mission from the get go of his appearance on the government stage was to sanctify the depraved DOD/DARPA anti personnel projects and regularly synthesized lab pathogens with psyops under color of medical authority and authenticity.

That time is over and his job description is now clear as a medical sicario. His wife provided shade for the ethics part of the operations, because everything Fauci has done has been a cover operation against the People. He is another manifest walking lie of the Deep State.

Patrick says

Why are the elite continuing with actions which will surely get them massacred in the long run?

Because the elites you massacre will be chess pieces covering the King and Queen. The 'Source' will be in their towers remaining anonymous, or reinventing themselves to rise like Babylonian Phoenix in other forms but known and recorded amongst themselves.

It is even alleged that the most important bloodline records are handed down through Satanic Ritual Abuse survivors with eidetic memories rather than any written archive (to keep them out of the hands of any pleb), and can only be summoned by particular handlers. They have advanced concepts of rebound Karma inculcated in them by their alien wellsprings, and they make sure the Karma always falls on the pawns, knights, rooks and bishops.

There, a daily dose of WOOOO.

WookieMan says

Scientist should know better.

But they know their funding and careers will instantly come to an end if they speak up.

Scientists and doctors have put in decades to get their credentials and funding. This makes them perhaps the most obedient people on the planet.

Ceffer says

It is even alleged that the most important bloodline records are handed down through Satanic Ritual Abuse survivors

Before Epstein Island I would have dismissed this. But now it's clearly true that the elite are kept in line partly though recordings of them abusing children.

And on the other side, abused children tend to become sociopaths who feel no sympathy because they were betrayed so badly when they were defenseless. So they can be used to commit other crimes.

So who was Epstein's handler? Someone at Mossad?

Patrick says

So who was Epstein's handler? Someone at Mossad?

His immediate handler is/was coined billionaire Les Wexner, of course, whose estate is an imperial guarded palace with James Bond escape tunnels and underground platforms that rise to the surface as helicopter and air strips. Who runs Wexner would probably require Swiss Octagon approval. As the Illuminati Card Game says: "You are not cleared for that information".