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Still a more trustworthy Representative than Nancy Pelosi.

Note date.

Staffers were probably trying to keep their paychecks; Abbott would have appointed somebody else who brought in their own team, and then a special election.

Also, there's no way donors and other congressmen wouldn't have known something was up, looking for her vote on some pork.

I've said it in other threads, we need age limits on the top end. Even if lucid at 80 you're definitely not as smart as a 40 year old. You have life knowledge more than a younger person, but the younger person is more in tune with what's going on right now and the main demographic you're representing.

Somehow Trump has kind of defied that, but still wish there was a cap on age for any office. We have age limits on the younger end. I actually think it would get bipartisan support. Younger Congress Critters have to work with some of these elderly people. AOC is a young bimbo but she's better than Pelosi and that's saying a lot.

I'd say 70 is the cut off. You could be 74 or 76 at the end of your term for POTUS or Senate, but it's over after that. Can't run again. Fact is they get a pension and the best health care in retirement. They could still be political lobbyist or political media pundits if they want work after. So it's not like they can't get work or would go broke.

She did not run for reelection. BTW, should the average 18-21 y/o be able to vote? Most of them don’t pay any attention to politics. In fact I think a person, no matter what the age be required to take a basic test showing a knowledge of WTF is going on. If you are in your 80s and pass the test, your vote or place in congress is welcome.

I think we need firm limits, 25-75, for the House AND Senate. This is just another example.

There's no way her 25 staffers, inc. her Chief of Staff, didn't know something was wrong when their boss disappeared; they wanted to keep their paychecks. Staffers are at the pleasure of the Congressman, so any temporary appointment who have brought in their own and kept none or only a couple of them.

There could be a darker motive too, consider the sudden discovery of Fiscal Conservativism after Trump won the election.

WookieMan says

I've said it in other threads, we need age limits on the top end. Even if lucid at 80 you're definitely not as smart as a 40 year old. You have life knowledge more than a younger person, but the younger person is more in tune with what's going on right now and the main demographic you're representing.

Every smart ass punk that has ever uttered that notion has failed miserably and took everyone with him that agreed.
Greatness has no age limits. If some snot faced punk can't impassion an electorate to vote for him. Then the great one in his way that is preferred much greatly more so than he, must be removed. Take the best option away so that a douche and a shit sandwich are the only choices.

There definitely should be cognitive tests, and any signs of mental weakness should be red flag to remove that person, and a run off election should take place.

What snot faced punks fail to realize, when they bitch about representatives from districts that they aren't from. Is there constituency sent them there. They didn't confer with you that their choice is the right one. That person represented their needs best, or did a better job at convincing their constituency that they could.

Not everyone is a fit leader and please let's all stop pretending that anyone can do it.
When you have a seasoned representative that has been representing that district for 20, 30+ years. It could be(not always) but that person has a grasp on the business needs, policy needs and infrastructure needs of his district. That person is a warrior and a champion for keeping those business doors open and the factories running. Just to throw him out on a whim because Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden has become tapioca mush mouth morons. Doesn't mean you should throw out people like Chuck Grassley, John Kennedy, and some other senior representatives that any city would be proud to have representing them. If you pull that our on a whim and put in a conservative version of AOC. The next thing you know Mr. Knowitall Fantastical Idea man punk man, is up there driving every industry away and bankrupting the region. Or they just get in there and become a RINO establishment do boy.

Get involved in the Party at the party level instead of voting for who they chose for you. Then you get to vet and champion some bright young blood that is of the caliber of a district champion as the senior you wish gone based on age alone. I'm not saying young people can't be an outstanding representative. But I am saying most that are unknown nobodies that captures the hearts and minds of the voters, without any real reason for doing so. Other than they aren't the other guy. 99% of the time will be for sale to the highest bidder and fuck their constituents back home.

It's like a Democrat I was arguing with after Matt Geatz had Kevin McCarthy removed. He was also groaning that Matt doesn't author any legislation, and proposed that Matt is doing nothing. First of all why did this Liberal have any love lost for Kevin, wasn't he just the Devil before Matt had him thrown out? Secondly I told him there are two kinds of Congressmen that are sent to Washington by their constituents.
1)A Law Maker
3)A Reformer

One promises to go to Washington to pass legislation that their constituents wanted. The other promises their constituents to go to Washington and investigate wrong doing and reform it. Matt was sent there to do the later not be a legislator. He doesn't answer to piss heads butthurt he threw out the most historical back stabbing RINO after Rand Paul and MItt Romney and Shit Stain McCain.

Greatness has no age, it's true.

But are we in Greatness now? And look how aged our Congress is during this time of our degredation!


Almost 25% of Congress is over 70, a figure never seen before in history, including recent history in the 80-90s.

Either Thomas Sowell has someone still writing one liners that are spot on to current events. Or he still has a sharp mind, that I would vote for President. Even at the ripe age of 94 and he's still knocking it out of the park.

AmericanKulak says

But are we in Greatness now? And look how aged our Congress is during this time of our degredation!

That's because the establishment wishes nothing more than a congress full of dementia patients, while their Liberal educated staffers rubber stamp everything the establishment suggests. It's easier to steal the Congressional votes than it is to steal the electoral votes.

It's time to start doing faculty checks on elected officials even the dog catchers. Why limit competency to high elected roles?

It should also be made crime on the level of racketeering for staffers, political operatives and aides to hide an elected official's mental decline.
It should be as serious as elderly abuse and fraud rolled up in one, with the added hint of high treason. Those aides could do anything for the bidding of anyone, for anything.

Tenpoundbass says

It should also be made crime on the level of racketeering for staffers, political operatives and aides to hide an elected official's mental decline.
It should be as serious as elderly abuse and fraud rolled up in one, with the added hint of high treason. Those aides could do anything for the bidding of anyone, for anything.

Agreed, how this is not a crime is astonishing

The Ford here is John Ford

According to Ford's longtime partner and friend, John Wayne, Ford could have continued to direct movies. He told Roger Ebert in 1976:

Up until the very last years of his life ... Pappy could have directed another picture, and a damned good one. But they said Pappy was too old. Hell, he was never too old. In Hollywood these days, they don't stand behind a fella. They'd rather make a goddamned legend out of him and be done with him.

AmericanKulak says

I think we need firm limits, 25-75, for the House AND Senate. This is just another example.

I'd agree with this.

SharkyP says

BTW, should the average 18-21 y/o be able to vote?

Yes if you can die for your country you should have a choice. Make voting 21 like the drinking age then and you aren't eligible for selective service until then.

Tenpoundbass says

Greatness has no age limits.

This is false unfortunately. You might have grandkids or something but you have no idea how 14 year olds are raised. I won't know what 14 year olds are doing when I'm 65-70. I'll ask for a xmas list and be like what the fuck is that?

The 45 year old is raising the 14 year old 8 out of 10 times. Guess what, just because they can't vote doesn't mean they're not your constituent, especially with education. Maybe pedophilia has always been around, but it seems rampant with boomers. We need younger people in office. That's fact. Boomers had an island for it...

I voted for Trump, but I'm sick of these old fucks controlling things. Kamala is actually an old hag and Biden was walking dead. And I'm 41, mid-life, not some "young buck" or whatever. I've had 20 years in the real world and 10 as a child with an ass hole father where I worked harder than any 20-50 year old I know.

You shouldn't want to work over 60 and at most 70. I don't want to be working during my pill weekly calendar years. So I went part time and supported the wife who gets 2 months off a year and makes a shit load. Trump isn't that smart. He did what I'm doing which is why I like him. He's leveraged others to just make a few phone calls and speeches 3-4 hours a day and sit back and relax. Play on X like I do on Patnet.

Again you're confusing what makes a great leader, and why everyone else is worrying about what 14 years are and not doing.

Not everyone has what it takes to lead. And the ratio to a great leader being replaced by someone that is dwarfed by their predecessors shoes are 80:1.
Because everyone thinks they can do it. But most likely it's not the person best suited ran for office and got there. But the lobbyists that controls the flow to those districts put in a meat puppet that will always be loyal and faithful to the establishment. Those established by their own merits don't need the establishment as much as a nobody does. Even the most well intentioned nobodies that make it to Washington. End up compromised or only serving one unpopular term.

It turns out we need the exact opposite of what our socialist pot smoking professors always told us.
We don't need passionate rando, activist politicians. We need pissed off Billionaires with an axe to grind with the Government waste and inefficiencies and the resources to not be silenced.
I don't care if they are 80 years old.

No, 18-21 year olds should NOT vote. The Founders didn't think so, and they lived in an age where 19 year olds would strike out and homestead a virgin forest with a shovel, pick, and Hudson's axe by themselves.

Tenpoundbass says

I don't care if they are 80 years old.

I do. They're almost dead. Especially men. You can lead other adults, I don't want you leading my kids if you're 80. Trump is unique with a young adult child or young man. Most 80 year olds don't have that. Nancy Pelosi is married to a someone that got hit with a hammer by a fag.

I'm sorry if it's offensive if you're older, even 60's, but it's fact. Older people don't know what is going on. Who do you think voted for Kamala? I know you know music, but I've been jamming with some guys in their 60's. You heard of Opeth? They've been around forever. One did, two didn't in the group. 66% of the 3 had no clue. How much else are they missing in politics and what's going on? These are musicians mind you. Somehow you missed the Pink Floyd of Swedish metal at a 2/3rds rate?

Once you hit a certain age you stop learning or trying to learn. Like I said Trump has Barron as a crutch. "Dad, come on, you don't say that." Or "You don't know who that is?" Then Trump will look into it. Most 80 year olds don't have the leadership role or young support. He does. So you're not entirely wrong, but there's a lot of people I'd like to see as POTUS over Trump and him just be a supporter of them. Like Musk to him.

AmericanKulak says

I think we need firm limits, 25-75, for the House AND Senate. This is just another example.

I think 38 to 69 is a good rule of thumb, for the voters to make when choosing a candidate. While taking the exception for great ones that younger than 38, and older than 69.
But lets be honest we don't chose the candidates, the party does, we pick which outfit looks best during the primaries. But we don't get to rummage though the closet to pick the best outfit.

That's why we need to join the party, then you can make age determinations when you caucus with the party to approve candidates in your district, or any race you can affect.

Personally I believe that no party should ever be allowed to deny candidates that has met a Party affiliation timeline requirement and voting record that coincides.. The Democrats are more egregious at doing that than the Republican party. But still, the fact that you have to get a petition to get on the ballot and flex so much legal muscle and still can be denied to run on the party ticket because "The local and State party" has already decided who will be on the primary ticket.

I don't care if there are 1500 verifiable legit candidates on the Primary ballot. And the winner wins by only 3% of the vote because it was so fractured.
It's the weakest link in our election system the fact that we have zero say in who runs on the ticket for the party we have been a member of for many years.

By the way 20 and 30 somethings has way more power in Washington than you think They are running everything in Washington. Most are braindead morons who are only puppets and read and vote on what ever their Aides and Staffers prepared for them. Hardly anyone in Washington writes the legislation they introduce. Snot faced brats behind the scenes are. You want them to step into elected roles while I'm saying get them the fuck out until they can grow some hair on their ass, and has had enough life experience and wisdom to making policy decisions that affects me and my family. Not some 14 year old whinny bitch ass groveling for RoBlox money.

WookieMan says

I'm sorry if it's offensive if you're older, even 60's, but it's fact. Older people don't know what is going on.

There's nothing worse than anyone over 60 that thinks he does know what's going on. Or not knows but is trying to be apart of what is going on.
That is wiling to jump behind every whim of some pimple fart who wants to brashly act upon any hairbrained whim without giving it one single forethought to what the conclusion will be. Those 60 year old hipster dofuses were the first to yell at you to put your mask on and stand 6 feet apart. They hindered people doxing the Antifa punks chasing them down and pulling their masks off. While some patchouli sandal wearing 60 something moron that "Knows what's going on." Shouting "What are you doing!? You're causing trouble! It's their right to peacefully protest! what have you got against George Floyd!?"

There's knowing what's going on, and then there's having to life experience to see it for what it is. Nobody over 60 needs to be validated by some youngster for knowing what's going on. They been knowing for 60 fucking years. They know about 20 to 40 more years of bullshit than the ones that think they don't know Jack.

Republican party is same shit as Democrats, hospus patients running america.

Tenpoundbass says

Not some 14 year old whinny bitch ass groveling for RoBlox money.

I would move to a different place then. That's not at all like it is around me and most of IL besides Chicago. Do they play games, yes. Does my 14 year old have his work permit and is hunting down jobs, yes. Non-birthday money he's hitting $5k of cash income and looking to get a basic W-2 high school job. They have to approve that shit now I guess.

Here's the deal. I want to listen to 14 year olds. Not 80 year olds that can't type or build a basic website. 80/20 rule. I think you believe that 80% of geezers are smart. They're not. Anyone 30-55 is just rolling their eyes most of the time when talking to older people. My mom and MIL are idiots. Fact is mentally you're at your prime 25-45. Hell even 41. My one buddy with no kids has no clue about life. I don't care about nephews and nieces you see 6 times a year. They have no clue. So not just picking on old people.

Coding isn't some smarts test. I hope building a website never becomes an elected official prerequisite.

People of every age category has been dumbed down, we're all in a mental funk and decline. I blame our phones.
The internet will need to be decoupled from the phones. They need to be made less friendly for digesting media and browsing content.
And have only task on demand push information. Maps, Contacts, phones, Messaging ect. Not all of the social media nonsense, web browsers and video streaming. It would be a boom for the economy and manufacturing all over the world if that were to happen. Put those services in TVs, Stereos, stand alone appliances, and self maintenance over the internet functions. There's hundreds of industries the phone has hijacked and has done a mediocre job at doing so.

Most people say, "Well it's what the people want" no it isn't. It's intentional, when we see one product rise it is most always intentional it's at the expense of effective tried and true standard's expense. I saw a video the other day on why America doesn't allow small pickup trucks like the Mazda B2000 Ford Ranger, Chevy S10 and Nissan Hard Body. The Tacoma is a puny 4 cylinder small truck dropped in a heavy full truck frame. They are lazy and sluggish as a result. The things would scoot if the were in a small truck. We don't have Cameras and Video cameras like before iPhone and Android hijacked them. Because they decided they want all of our pictures on a device they can search remotely and you don't actually own if you clicked agree to the iPhone and Andriod EULA. And don't get me started on Gas cans, light bulbs, soap, bread and our food industry in general. Did Obama's young aides NOT write the Obama care fistfuck?

If it were up to young people we would have a palm size device that spits out paper rain coats on demand. And then no store will ever sell Parkers, Ponchos, Rain Jackets or Wind Breakers because the youngsters already solved humanities outdoor temperature regulation needs.
Of course a paper raincoat would be useless but then again so is studio produced digital audio.

Please if young people could stop coming up with dumb ideas that would be great.

Tenpoundbass says

I think 38 to 69 is a good rule of thumb, for the voters to make when choosing a candidate. While taking the exception for great ones that younger than 38, and older than 69.
But lets be honest we don't chose the candidates, the party does, we pick which outfit looks best during the primaries. But we don't get to rummage though the closet to pick the best outfit.

One idea: If they win the Party Primary by more than 65%? If so, then they can stand past ~70.

Tenpoundbass says

. Most are braindead morons who are only puppets and read and vote on what ever their Aides and Staffers prepared for them

Yep, but at the end of the day it's the elected official that votes and/or amends, etc.

I don't know. Watching them on Satan's treadmill, blackmailed, families threatened, and periodically tied to a chair and hosed, occasionally to be killed and replaced with imposter avatars, or wheeled into Congress as dessicated zombies, is kind of fun in a way. We can watch their ritualized humiliations devoid of joy or conscience. I think the actor avatars who replace some of them, like Fetterman or Nancy Actress, seem to be having more fun because they are the walk ons and can take off the masks.

They thought the devil's wages were going to be a perpetual carnival of adrenochrome, perverted sex, indulgence, incredible wealth and personal grandiosity. Instead, they are desperate old crumbles who can't retire or rest because their brand names are too valuable to the PTB, and resting means oblivion. Their fortunes are likely returned to the mother ship, too, with only a percentage commission left to their heirs.

Ceffer says

I think the actor avatars who replace some of them, like Fetterman or Nancy Actress, seem to be having more fun because they are the walk ons and can take off the masks.

Skip age for a second, at least with regards to voting. High school educated or GED required at 18 to vote. 21 otherwise. But you cannot be drafted without a basic education. Can't drink, vote or be part of a draft until 21.

Fetterman is a bad example though as he's not that old but had a stroke. Likely other issues going on there where he shouldn't have been elected anyway. Pelosi is a joke to the rest of the country, we can't vote her out. You CA folks need to get it going. She's on deaths doorstep so probably a moot point anyway in the next 4-6 years.

Fact is older is not alway wiser or intelligent. Younger is naive. I get it. But 40-55 is right in the wheelhouse where they get the young and the old. When I'm 60 I'll be calling my grandson a dip shit and he's probably smarter than me.