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2nd Amendment Discussion


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2018 Feb 17, 11:51am   286,849 views  1,451 comments

by CajunSteve   ➕follow (1)   💰tip   ignore  

With all the talk about the school shootings, let's take a look at what the 2nd Amendment actually says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Couple things to note in there:

1. The specific mention of a militia being the reason for the need to bear arms.
2. The 2nd Amendment never mentions the word gun at all.

So, what exactly is the definition of "arms"?

In 1755 Dr. Johnson’s Dictionary of the English Language was first published. It defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”

Weapons of offence would seem to include pretty much anything and everything, from knives to nuclear weapons. The US has already seen fit to ban some weapons of offence so the 2nd Amendment clearly has not been interpreted strictly as meaning that the US cannot ban all "arms". Therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.

So it then becomes a question of which weapons should be banned, which should be strictly regulated, and which should be lightly regulated or not at all. Like anything else, we should weigh an individual's right with society's right. When looked at in that manner, it becomes very difficult to justify why fully automatic or semi automatic rifles should be allowed. What purpose do they serve an individual? And why would that purpose outweigh the extreme damage those weapons have cased society??

Patrick thinks the Chamber of Commerce is the worst organization, and he may be correct, but the NRA is not far behind.



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1430   ForcedTQ   2024 Dec 15, 3:18pm  

The_Deplorable says





Big piece of garbage Elliot is completely Anti-2A. That mofo may act in roles that would make you think he is for 2A, but reality is he’s not. Look it up, whoever made that meme should have used someone else.
1436   HeadSet   2024 Dec 24, 7:40am  

The_Deplorable says





Ironically, she gets his gun collection from the divorce.
1439   HeadSet   2024 Dec 29, 8:49am  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says





Yes, and I have witnessed around here that judges dismiss gun charge violations for minorities. While I was waiting for a case, I heard one judge dismiss a gun charge where a Black convicted felon tried to buy a gun - "He did not know better."
1446   HeadSet   2025 Jan 10, 8:39am  

The_Deplorable says





Why are we using an AK-47 as the example gun? Are we referring to ISIS, Taliban, or commie revolutionaries here?
1447   RWSGFY   2025 Jan 10, 8:53am  

HeadSet says

The_Deplorable says






Why are we using an AK-47 as the example gun? Are we referring to ISIS, Taliban, or commie revolutionaries here?


Because this is what is readily available and comes to mind first where that "meme"was created. I notice a lot of subtle signs of "created not here" in many "memes" flooding our interwebz.
1449   The_Deplorable   2025 Jan 10, 11:23pm  

HeadSet says
"Why are we using an AK-47 as the example gun? Are we referring to
ISIS, Taliban, or commie revolutionaries here?"

Well, FYI the AK-47 is an excellent weapon and superior to others in many respects.
1450   HeadSet   2025 Jan 11, 8:57am  

The_Deplorable says

Well, FYI the AK-47 is an excellent weapon and superior to others in many respects.

The main benefit is that the AK-47 is cheap and easy to manufacture. Otherwise, the AK-47 is heavy and has high recoil compared to M-16/AR-15 types.
1451   RWSGFY   2025 Jan 11, 11:15am  

HeadSet says

The_Deplorable says


Well, FYI the AK-47 is an excellent weapon and superior to others in many respects.

The main benefit is that the AK-47 is cheap and easy to manufacture. Otherwise, the AK-47 is heavy and has high recoil compared to M-16/AR-15 types.


Recoil is not bad (compared to Garand, tee-hee), but ergonomics and stock sights are shit. AR is far superior in these areas. And since cheap Commie surplus ammo has dried up owning an AK makes even less sense than before.

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