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Damn these Operation Mongoose files are crazy.
The CIA admit they had plans for “agriculture sabotage” by initiating crop failure via “biological agents”.
The CIA had plans to use bioweapons for regime change.
If they are willing to do this, what else are they willing to do?
It was perfectly understandable that the rancorous chatter over the newly disclosed JFK files continued all day yesterday. But out of the clamor, a new possibility began to emerge; the possibility that the real goal of the disclosures wasn’t to identify JFK’s killer, but to finish what the beloved 1960’s president started— scattering the intelligence agencies to the wind. ...
The CIA fired up Operation Mongoose in 1961, right after its failed Bay of Pigs invasion. We’ll get that porky dictator! Aimed at destabilizing Cuba, the program included sabotage, economic warfare, assassination attempts, psyops, political subversion, covert paramilitary operations, and fantastically illegal false flags.
By 1963, disgusted by Mongoose, President Kennedy had firmly decided to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.” And then, he was dead. Never mind!
We knew some details, thanks to a previous 1999 partial declassification. Some of the CIA’s proposed false flag operations, for example, included plans to stage fake terrorist attacks on American civilians and other military targets, including in Florida, to be blamed on Cuban nationalists.
Kennedy was outraged by the suggestions and ultimately removed CIA Chief Allan Dulles, who designed Operation Mongoose, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who’d signed off on it.
This week’s newly disclosed, unredacted JFK files included a batch of new, never-before-seen documents related to Operation Mongoose. One document that understandably caught Clandestine’s attention included details about biological attacks. The document was titled, “Minutes of the Meeting of the Special Group on Mongoose 6 Sep 1962.”
Starting in paragraph number 4, a “General Carter” mentioned “agricultural sabotage.” Let’s just soak in the awful ramifications of that banal term, agricultural sabotage, which can only mean starving civilians to death to further military-political objectives. In case anyone needs to hear it, starving innocent civilians is not okay. In terms progressives can understand, we didn’t vote for that.
Paragraph four also noted General Carter’s objection, which were “the disastrous results if something went wrong, particularly if there were obvious attribution to the U.S.” Meaning, he was worried somebody would find out what they did. But, General Carter reassured the room, “it would be possible to accomplish this purpose of agricultural sabotage— by methods more subtle than those indicated in the paper.”
A “Mr. Bundy” (presumably, not the serial killer Ted Bundy, but who knows) chimed in. Bundy “said that he had no worries about any such sabotage, which could clearly be” blamed on somebody else, like the Cubans. Mr. Bundy cautioned that America should avoid obvious things like chemical releases. That is, “unless they could be completely covered up.”
General Carter brought up a brilliant and very specific idea. “He mentioned specifically the possibility of producing crop failures by the introduction of biological agents which would appear to be of national origin.”
Wait, what??
They should have called it “Operation Not Our Fault.” Instead of debating the morality of forced starvation through covert biological warfare, they were only worried about the optics.
I feel inclined to pen a fulsome and very sarcastic essay about Cold War era biological operations, which previously were only the fodder of kooky anti-CIA conspiracy theories. (Now confirmed, of course, as fact.) I have many questions. Where would the “biological agents” come from? Who was developing them? How much of this was — and is — going on? Who are these insane Stanley Kubrick-style cartoon villains working for CIA and dreaming up this kind of uncontrolled evil? Why have they lied about it all these years?
Does anybody who works for the government ever get in trouble for lying?
And … starvation of noncombatant civilians through covert biological attacks? What. On. Earth.
And of course … was covid a “biological agent” designed as a “subtle” way to “accomplish the purpose” of killing civilians? Was it supposed to happen in a way that “could be completely covered up?” Was covid designed to “appear to be of national origin” from China?
I pause, unable to withhold this comment, to note that destroying people’s crops is not clever. It’s not high-tech. It’s not spycraft. It’s not progress through peaceful means. It doesn’t take highly-skilled experts and supertrained spooks to dream up nightmarish ideas like this.
Rather, it only requires merciless brutality and ruthless amorality.
No wonder Kennedy wanted to scatter the intelligence agencies to the wind. It’s too bad he became the accidental victim of a rogue, lone gunman who used to be on CIA’s payroll and totally worked alone. ALL ALONE, never forget. (Coincidentally, just like Trump assassin Thomas Crooks. Just saying.)
But for today, let’s set all that aside. Let’s consider just the contemporaneous ramifications. Could this kind of quietly explosive material be the real reason for the releases? Could there be a much bigger goal than just exposing one dark secret (that can never be exposed)? Could all these unredacted CIA breadcrumbs —and the frightful fury arising from them— cause an inevitable collapse of the intelligence agencies?
Will Kennedy finally achieve his revenge— from beyond the grave?
Short of destroying them, could President Trump be disciplining the intelligence agencies, by slowly slipping out their secrets, one by one, starting with the oldest and therefore least objectionable ones? I mean, why should Operation Mongoose remain classified? The Soviet Union is a historical footnote. Cuba is no geopolitical threat. It’s a cruise-ship comedian’s punchline.
If Trump is using these disclosures to initiate the intelligence agencies’ controlled demolition, it would be the longest, slowest burn of political payback in history—JFK’s revenge served not just cold, but cryogenically frozen and thawed out decades later for maximum effect.
The intelligence agencies built their Babylonic Tower of Power from bricks of secrecy. Trump is weaponizing their own secrets against them. If I’m right, it would be the most karmically delicious reversal in modern history.
The ‘radical’ theory I proposed yesterday —that the JFK disclosures aren’t really JFK assassination disclosures so much as disclosures of intelligence agency corruption — picked up steam yesterday, rounding the track with an impressive quarter-mile lead in early racing. The first striking example appeared in the New York Times, headlined “Were the Kennedy Files a Bust? Not So Fast, Historians Say.”
Our theme from yesterday, of the declassified files’ alternate historic importance, began right in the sub-headline: “The thousands of documents posted online this week disappointed assassination buffs. But Cold War historians are finding many newly revealed secrets.”
The historians —who already knew a lot— were described as being shocked to their cores. “I didn’t think I’d live to see it,” one told the Times. “This opens a door on a whole history of collaboration between the Vatican and the C.I.A., which, boy, would be explosive,” another said.
The article wasted no time providing an example—a 1973 “Family Jewels” memo written by Walter Elder addressed to then-CIA Director William Colby. Here’s how the Times described Elder’s memo:
Our theme from yesterday, of the declassified files’ alternate historic importance, began right in the sub-headline: “The thousands of documents posted online this week disappointed assassination buffs. But Cold War historians are finding many newly revealed secrets.”
The historians —who already knew a lot— were described as being shocked to their cores. “I didn’t think I’d live to see it,” one told the Times. “This opens a door on a whole history of collaboration between the Vatican and the C.I.A., which, boy, would be explosive,” another said.
The article wasted no time providing an example—a 1973 “Family Jewels” memo written by Walter Elder addressed to then-CIA Director William Colby. Here’s how the Times described Elder’s memo:
The seven pages matter-of-factly described break-ins at the French
Consulate in Washington, planned paramilitary attacks on Chinese
nuclear facilities and injections of a "contaminating agent" in
Cuban sugar bound for the Soviet Union. The memo ended with an
offhand aside about John A. McCone, the agency's former director.
"Finally, and this will reflect my Middle Western Protestant
upbringing, McCone's dealings with the Vatican, including Pope
John XXIII and Pope Paul VI, would and could raise eyebrows in
certain quarters," the author wrote.
Calling the disclosures “remarkable,” the Times described how, collectively, the newly unredacted documents described CIA malfeasance on a global scale, including coups and election interference (!).
They include information about C.I.A. involvement in various
attempted coups, election interference in countries around the
world and connections that ran to the top of some foreign
governments. To see the documents all drop suddenly, without
redactions, was remarkable to scholars.
For example, another now-unredacted 1967 report by the CIA’s inspector general disclosed the agency’s 1961 assassination of Dominican dictator Rafael Trujillo — including the names of all the CIA agents involved in the plot. Other documents revealed CIA efforts to interfere in elections in Finland, Peru and Somalia, which had previously been relegated to ‘conspiracy theory’ status, or were even entirely unknown before now.
There was also new information about CIA’s involvement in failed and successful coups in a devil’s inventory of countries, including Brazil, Haiti (!), and what is now Guyana. The CIA has been meddling in the whole world.
Other now visible passages revealed, among other salacious details, that nearly half the political officers in American embassies worldwide were working for the CIA. “That’s … astonishing,” Dr. Logevall, a Harvard historian working on a multivolume Kennedy biography, lamely said, grasping for adequate words.
The 1973 memo that began the story warned Director Colby about Elder’s “sinking feeling that discipline has broken down.” Discipline has never recovered. Elder’s memo listed too many examples to recount them all. But my eye was drawn to this particularly shocking part of paragraph four, which described two operations, without stating whether the operations had only been planned or actually went forward:
One involved chemical warfare operations against the rice
crops in both Cuba and North Vietnam. A second involved
a paramilitary strike against the Chi-Com nuclear installations.
Those two astonishing sentences are unthinkably evil. Let’s start with the proposal for a paramilitary strike on the Chi-Com nuclear plants.
I need hardly emphasize that a paramilitary strike on a nuclear power plant is one of the most reckless and highest-risk actions imaginable, both strategically and environmentally. Attacking a nuclear installation is an act of war on steroids— far beyond bombing an enemy’s military base.
It isn’t rocket science (or nuclear science, for that matter). To cite a contemporary example, even amidst the hottest of wars, Russia has always assiduously avoided attacking Ukraine’s nuclear power plants.
The victims of such an operation would not so much have been the enemy communist governments as their innocent civilians. Striking a nuclear facility risks radiation leaks or even a Chernobyl-like meltdown, depending on the reactor type and how it’s hit. Fallout could easily spread across borders, irradiating major water supplies and poisoning civilians and military personnel alike— including even U.S. allies and neutral countries.
It is difficult to conceive how this could be spun as anything but madness. Nuclear plants are heavily fortified— striking them without causing radiation leaks is nearly impossible. Sabotage, cyberattacks, or other strategies might be slightly less reckless, but a direct paramilitary strike is begging for a disaster.
But perhaps most ominous and least moral of all, this kind of attack on a nuclear facility could easily escalate into a full-out global thermonuclear war. It’s like playing Russian roulette with civilization itself. At minimum, the Chinese would feel morally justified in conducting tit-for-tat covert counter-attacks against American nuclear plants, leading to an escalating conflict causing unimaginable suffering and long-term environmental destruction.
As for the proposed covert chemical weapons attacks against Cuban and North Korean rice fields, well, I described the moral hazards inherent in this kind of starvation operation yesterday. Targeting food supplies is especially shocking because it constitutes a form of biological or environmental warfare, which would have caused severe humanitarian fallout.
Rice is a staple food. Targeting rice crops is an unthinkably cruel war crime. It would have led to mass hunger, malnutrition, and civilian deaths, disproportionately harming children and elderly folks. The CIA’s profoundly unethical plan would be inherently immoral under Just War Theory, which requires nations to discriminate between military and civilian targets.
The CIA’s unmasking continues. Yesterday, the White House announced that around 16,000 more pages are waiting in the wings, to be digitized and posted online “in the coming days.”
But even more consistent with our developing theme that the disclosures were meant to grease the skids of doom, preparatory to scattering the CIA to the winds, as Kennedy wanted, was an unredacted 1961 memo written by Arthur Schlesinger Jr., one of Kennedy’s top aides. Schlesinger wrote the memo right after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, warning President Kennedy about the growing power of the CIA and calling for it to be reorganized.
Kennedy didn’t live long enough to act on Schlesinger’s advice.
All the examples I’ve cited so far were mentioned in the Times’ article. As Yeats famously wrote in his poem The Second Coming, “Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold.”
The CIA’s empire is falling apart before our eyes.
But, before heaping lauds on the Times’ editors for honesty, while it mentioned all these unsavory details, it stopped far short of pointing out any wrongdoing. It was only a limited hangout. A desperate one, certainly, but just a frantic effort to whitewash the shocking revelations as weird historical curiosities.
The real story was not about who shot JFK. The real story was about what the Agency has been doing ever since — and maybe even before. These aren’t assassination files; they’re indictments slipped into the historical footnotes.
The same journalists and academics who spent decades scoffing at “conspiracy theories” are now blinking at declassified documents like deer in the high beams of truth. “Oh wow, the CIA really did meddle in Finnish elections?” Yes, Sparky. Finland. Somalia. Peru. Haiti.
It’s not a list of vacation destinations; it’s a rogue’s gallery of subverted democracies.
Let’s revisit the disclosure that half of the U.S.’s overseas political officers were CIA. Half! That’s spy-state infiltration, not diplomacy. It confirms what foreign governments have long suspected, but couldn’t prove — that the Department of State is often just a tuxedo over Langley’s camo gear.
In theory, the State Department is supposed to run foreign policy—crafting diplomatic positions, negotiating treaties, and managing relationships. That’s what the Constitution envisions: the president sets the tone, and State does the talking. But in practice —especially from the early Cold War onward— the CIA obviously ran a parallel, often contradictory, covert foreign policy under the table, free from public scrutiny or even effective oversight from Congress.
Now we much better understand one of the most puzzling elements of Biden’s late-term negotiations in the Middle East. The failed discussions over a Gazan ceasefire were being brokered by CIA —not the State Department— and nobody even seemed to think there was anything at all unusual about that.
Remember this bizarre New York Times headline, published two days before Trump took office?
U.S. Spy Chief Took on Role of Negotiator in Gaza War
As C.I.A. director, William J. Burns was deeply focused on China
and Russia when the Middle East conflict plunged him back into
his old life.
Apparently, the half of State Department who were real diplomats and not covert agents were just slowing things down, so CIA went ahead and took over directly. The headline’s reception was surreal. No alarm bells. No questions. Just acceptance. The Beltway bunch didn’t even blink, because this is normal now.
The State Department is doing diplomacy on the record. But the CIA is running the world off the books. That, my friends, is the deep state, exposed.
But that wasn’t all.
Shortly before Fox fired him, Tucker Carlson ran a segment where he —rightly, in my view— portrayed Richard Nixon as a Reagan-level, wildly-popular president who was politically assassinated by the deep state. Namely, the CIA.
At the time of his comments, Tucker drew a parallel between the successful soft coup against Nixon and the deep state’s attacks against President Trump. Notably, Tucker recounted how, just before the Watergate scandal burst open like a rotten water bag, Nixon told CIA Director Richard Helms that he knew who really killed Kennedy, implying that the CIA had been involved.
According to reports of the meeting, Director Helms sat, stonily silent, saying nothing.
For his trouble, far-left Media Matters promptly labeled Tucker a five-Pinnochio 'conspiracy theorist.’
But, and I bet you can tell where this is going, newly unredacted records from the JFK dump at least partially vindicated the now-independent Fox anchor, proving that four of the seven Watergate “burglars” were either then-present or former CIA agents (hat tip Kyle Becker):
With respect to the relationship to the CIA of the seven
individuals involved in the Watergate burglary, one of them at
time of the break-in was a part-time contract employee (Martinez),
one was a former full-time contract employee (Barker), two were
retired staff employees (Hunt and McCord). The remaining
individuals (Liddy, Sturgis and Gonzalez) were never connected
with CIA in any capacity. (See attached sheet for details on these
seven individuals). These facts have been set forth previously in
In fairness, this is not enough evidence to conclude the CIA orchestrated the takedown of another populist president who was skeptical of the agency. But it cracks open the door. It raises questions that demand answers. It shifts the burden back to the CIA and confirms long-believed but long-sneered-at ‘conspiracy theories.’
Each additional disclosure forces a crack in the CIA’s iron wall of secrecy. The spy agency’s structural integrity is collapsing. As public pressure mounts, and the CIA’s power over the government frays, we’ll soon begin to see calls from an emboldened Congress for major reform.
And remember: We are only at the beginning. More JFK files are on the way. Behind those lie the promised files on RFK’s and King’s assassinations. And we haven’t even heard about the missing Crossfire Hurricane binder yet, even though that is what Trump was frantically working to declassify during his last tortured days in office back in 2021.
You’d better believe that missing binder is sitting somewhere on the disclosure timeline. And the Swamp knows it. This is only going to hurt for a very long time.
Yet, oddly, it feels like healing.
As the Times’ historian noted, I never expected to see anything like this in my lifetime. Draining the Swamp for good seemed more improbable than getting a coherent, unscripted sentence out of Kamala Harris after noon on a workday.
Yet here we are— it is happening. However surreal it may be. The ropes holding up the CIA’s parachute are fraying. I suspect that what is coming will be a wholesale rewriting of history, as the Swamp’s previously unseen tentacles are hauled out of the deep ocean and its connections to everything we thought we knew are finally exposed.
What looked like isolated scandals—JFK, RFK, MLK, Watergate, foreign coups, Trump—may begin to reassemble like a shattered mosaic, forming a much darker, much clearer picture of what really shaped the postwar American century.
History isn’t being written. It’s being unredacted and re-written.
The note on the document reads:
“CIA HAS NO OBJECTION TO DECLASSIFICATION AND/OR RELEASE OF CIA INFORMATION IN THIS DOCUMENT. EXCEPT BRACKETS. LEE 8-7-98.”
What’s in brackets?
“[the Israeli Intelligence Service.]” ...
This newly unredacted disclosure raises serious questions about the CIA’s longstanding efforts to conceal its collaboration with Israeli intelligence in operations directly connected to James Angleton, who played a key role in the post-assassination counterintelligence efforts.
Some see the redactions as evidence Israel played a bigger role in the JFK assassination than the mainstream controllers want us to believe.
Angleton Shielded Israel’s Nuclear Program from JFK’s Scrutiny
This possibility becomes even more significant when considering Angleton’s deep involvement in shielding Israel’s secret nuclear weapons program—an effort that directly defied President John F. Kennedy’s policy of non-proliferation.
Kennedy strongly opposed Israel’s development of nuclear weapons.
He pressured Israeli leaders to open their Dimona facility to U.S. inspectors and made it clear he wanted to prevent Israel from becoming a nuclear power.
Angleton worked against that policy.
He shielded Israel’s nuclear program from scrutiny, ignored internal U.S. intelligence warnings, and facilitated Israeli deception about Dimona.
All documented in American investigative journalist Seymour Hersh’s The Samson Option.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/79186/the-samson-option-by-seymour-m-hersh/
Mossad director Meir Amit reportedly called Angleton “the biggest Zionist of them all.” ...
Kennedy Tried to Rein in Israel’s Lobbying Power in America
It’s worth mentioning JFK’s administration, particularly through Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, pursued efforts to have the American Zionist Council (AZC)—AIPAC’s predecessor organization—register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).
AZC was an organization in the United States that coordinated pro-Zionist activities and lobbying efforts to promote support for Israel, active primarily in the mid-20th century until it was succeeded by AIPAC in the early 1960s.
Forcing AZC to register as a foreign agent would have severely undermined Israel’s ability to influence U.S. policy discreetly, exposing their lobbying networks to public scrutiny and limiting their access to American political power.
After JFK’s murder, the Justice Department under President Lyndon Baines Johnson dropped the effort initiated under AG Kennedy.
The CIA’s Redactions Reveal an Attempt to Bury the Truth?
At the nexus of U.S. intelligence and Israeli interests stood James Angleton, the CIA’s chief of counterintelligence and its primary liaison to Mossad.
Angleton ran point on the CIA’s role in the JFK assassination investigation. ...
The new revelation about CIA redactions of Israel’s involvement shows there was an explicit attempt to keep foreign intelligence ties out of the public record for decades.
I knew it. Proximity is causality. How come they didn't use them against the Egyptians?
Let’s be crystal clear: dirty tricks are not part of the CIA’s legal charter. The Agency was created to collect and analyze foreign intelligence—not to blow up nuclear power plants, poison rice fields, or orchestrate coups. Its mission is information gathering, not covert warfare. The so-called “special activities” wing wasn’t in the original blueprint; it grew like a tumor during the Cold War, fed by secrecy and unchecked power. This week’s newly unredacted documents don’t merely reveal rogue operations— they expose a decades-long deviation from lawful authority. ...
Even if some operations were technically “authorized” by senior military or executive officials, that’s hardly any exoneration. The CIA wasn’t created to serve as a covert war department. Its charter was intelligence—not intervention. The fact that presidents or Pentagon brass may have signed off on operations like staging false flags, sabotaging crops, or assassinating undesired leaders only underscores how far the national security apparatus had drifted from constitutional norms.
In drips of urgent exception and drabs of frightftul necessity, the Republic’s balance of power was quietly and unlawfully redefined.
Worse, the Agency appears to have been aimed inward, at Americans. The tools of foreign espionage—propaganda, psychological manipulation, surveillance—weren’t just deployed overseas. Increasingly, they were turned against the very citizens the Agency was created to protect. That’s not mission drift. That’s betrayal.
That’s treason.
William Cooper's allegation is that the driver delivered the final head shot with a pneumatic pistol and fish poison projectile.
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