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The Tangent Thread


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2005 Nov 7, 3:26pm   26,063 views  166 comments

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Many of us have been here awhile, and while we think housing is an important topic (we wouldn't all gather her otherwise) we do digress quite a bit.

One topic that has come up time and time again is the issue of dual income families, and the rise in housing costs that have occured because so many familes now have two incomes instead of one.

We've discussed the role of the woman in the workplace and at home, so perhaps it's time to digress a little more.
-- Have dual incomes been a big factor in housing prices?
-- Do those of us who live on one income end up renters as a result?
--Are we better or worse off now that the majority of households have two incomes?
--Have the cost of other goods and services risen due to the extra income, or can that be blamed on inflation?

In other words, are we as a society in the same place economically as we would be if we stayed in a predominantly one income society?

#housing

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66   Allah   2005 Nov 8, 6:35am  

I never got angry at you. Please show me where I communicated anger. I was and am vaguely annoyed, but that’s another emotion entirely.

Sarcasm is a form of anger...


OF COURSE, what was I thinking, I’m a woman! I should never have had any major ambitions in life, because my husband will always earn more than me and will always be less adept than me at raising kids and scrubbing toilets. Instead of getting a college degree, I should have just gone to home economics classes so I could perfect my domestic technique and therefore attract the highest-earning male who is looking for a subservient wife to dust his house, mend his shirts, fry his pork chops, and give him lady-like little blow jobs.

WHAT WAS I THINKING? I should not have the need for intellectual stimulation, challenges beyond making the floor shine, or the desire for human interaction beyond serving my Husband.

67   Allah   2005 Nov 8, 6:36am  

Almost forgot :) :) :)

68   frank649   2005 Nov 8, 6:42am  

"SQT: It goes to show that housing has a bigger impact on the whole economy than most people want to admit."

Right. Some people believe the housing market is the only thing that has kept the consumer going during the past few years.

69   Allah   2005 Nov 8, 6:45am  

hey Allah

WOT way off tangent !

chill out grab some sushi enjoy!

I am just making my last attempt to prove my point....probably will fail again though.

70   Allah   2005 Nov 8, 6:48am  

I need a new drug! :) :) () :) :)

71   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 7:52am  

"That’s the p-p-p-p-Power of Love!

Can you feel it?"

((shudder)) I need to go take a shower now.

72   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 8:01am  

"you, but I didn’t because it seemed that you probably didn’t even read it…..That is why I said “whatever”….. see for yourself……..:

I did read it.

"The article was about Mothers having a problem getting back into the workforce….The article has comments from REAL Mothers who describe exactly what happened when THEY went to interviews"

I know plenty of examples of women in my real life who have not suffered discrimination re-entering the work force. So I'm was speaking from personal experience. I've also dealt with businesses while going through pregnancy and having kids, and the fact that I'm a mom has not caused them to discriminate against me in any way that I can see.

And yet I don't deny that it's true women suffer such discrimination. I just believe that insisting things are ONE way and only one way--that there aren't a zillion individual examples that prove any point imaginable--is ridiculous.

73   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 8:03am  

"Sarcasm is a form of anger…"

I don't consider it a form of anger. I will admit it's an unfair argumentative tactic, and for being sarcastic when you find it offensive, I apologize.

74   Allah   2005 Nov 8, 8:06am  

shud·der

intransitive verb (past and past participle shud·dered, present participle shud·der·ing, 3rd person present singular shud·ders)
Definitions:

1. shiver violently: to shake or tremble uncontrollably from a reaction such as cold, fear, or disgust

2. vibrate: to vibrate rapidly and heavily

Which one? 1. Cold, fear, disgust or 2:vibrate
:) :) :) This has been a joke and nothing but a joke :) :) :)

stop being so hard on Huey.
Yeah...Huey was very cool for his time!

75   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 8:07am  

"I am just making my last attempt to prove my point….probably will fail again though. "

This is why we don't get along. Because I've asked repeatedly that we just agree to disagree, and you keep trying to prove your point. I disagree with you. Period.

76   Allah   2005 Nov 8, 8:16am  

He basically said that if it was taken away the housing market would go bust and that would be so catastrophic for the economy we could have a full scale depression.

Yeah because he loves his huge deductions and if he can admit that there is a bubble and that it will do severe damage to the housing market as a result of losing that deduction, he will.......... When Donald talks people listen!

:) :) :) (some smileys, especially for Jamie) :) :) :)

77   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 8:22am  

"(some smileys, especially for Jamie)"

Please, don't bother now, not for me. Just pretend I don't exist! Please! I'm getting tired of you even mentioning my name.

78   Allah   2005 Nov 8, 8:24am  

Please, don’t bother now, not for me. Just pretend I don’t exist! Please! I’m getting tired of you even mentioning my name.

:) :) :) Don't be sad :) :) :)

79   Allah   2005 Nov 8, 8:32am  

SQT..... I am SINCERELY trying to be nice... I really am. I don't want to be known as morosely serious. I am using the smileys to show that I am not. Without the smileys, I am morose to ____, with them I am being insulting.....I can't win! I'm sorry :( but I want to break the morose habbit and make my tone a little more pronounced....I'll cut down on them ok :)

80   Peter P   2005 Nov 8, 8:34am  

PolishKnight Says:

HARM’s point about Carly Fiorina, Oprah Winfrey and Stewart, for example, is interesting because these women as far as I know are unmarried. Overall, successful women tend to not marry or have few children which is made up through immigration or “red stater” women having more children.

Actually Carly is married, her husband is Frank Fiorina. I don't understand why marriage excludes a career (notice, I didn't mention successful). I didn't see many folks here question men who can have both a successful career and lead a happy family life?

Not Peter P, btw, just posing as him...

81   Allah   2005 Nov 8, 8:58am  

This is why we don’t get along. Because I’ve asked repeatedly that we just agree to disagree, and you keep trying to prove your point. I disagree with you. Period.

Just one last thing :) I never expected you to agree with everything or anything I said, just that you understand what I was trying to tell you instead of taking it like I'm making a sexist statement or sounding like a Women hater. That is all....

82   Peter P   2005 Nov 8, 10:48am  

When searching for “bubble blog,” patrick.net is now listed ahead of Ben’s blog, does this reflect the audience is watching us more because of these verbal tangents?

Ben does not have threads with more than 2000 comments.

83   Peter P   2005 Nov 8, 11:28am  

Wow, "bubble blog" returns this site as the first link on google!

84   SJ_jim   2005 Nov 8, 11:36am  

What thread bubble?

85   Peter P   2005 Nov 8, 11:47am  

Must be the food we serve.

Tangent = Tangerine?

86   praetorian   2005 Nov 8, 12:46pm  

We don’t make widgets any more.

_politely applauds_

Isn't it unfortunate that we reward so heartily the people who produce so little?

_shrug_

Cheers,
prat

87   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:06pm  

"Jamie, you’ve been added to my roster of People Who Contribute Here That I Really Like. It’s a growing list, but I thought I’d let you know specifically just because it’s hard to do battle in the trenches of misunderstanding."

Aw, thank you, flak. I'm touched. No, really, I am! I needed some kind, non-back-handed words right about now. It's nice to know that one whole person understood me. Yay. I'm not a complete failure at communicating. You rock. We should, like, develop a secret handshake now or something. :-P

Someone will probably accuse you of being me now, posing as "flak." That happens nearly every time anyone says anything nice here. :-)

88   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:13pm  

"narrow version of hypothesis: there are more engineers here (and like occupations, those who rationalize the non-social world - economists, by contrast, try to rationalize the social world) than one would expect to meet at a random gathering of overeducated, decently paid folk."

Interesting theory, and you're probably right. I've often wondered how the demographics of this blog differ from that of the everyday world. I'm not sure how many engineers we have here. Roll call? Me--not an engineer.

89   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:31pm  

Jack, "naaaah"? Is that your goat impression?

90   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:32pm  

SQT, no need to feel bad about anything!

91   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:34pm  

I"m here, I'm here! But now I'm gone...to the shed.

92   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:36pm  

Now I"m back again. Helllooooo? Oh crap, there's an echo.

93   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:37pm  

No, I meant the shed thread. Try saying shed thread three times fast.

94   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:38pm  

I know nothing about a goat. Jack?

95   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:39pm  

Oh great, Jack has retired to the shed with his wireless connection and may never come out again.

96   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:41pm  

You're being awfully...something-or-other Jack. Not your usual self. Whassup with that?

97   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:42pm  

I hope all he's doing is communicating.

98   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:44pm  

Now you're sounding slightly more like yourself...but still something's missing.

99   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:45pm  

Hmmm, you see what I mean, SQT? He sounds, dare I say, "morose."

Sit down. Tell Dr. Jamie all about it.

100   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:47pm  

I think we've got too many conversations going in too many places. I keep forgetting all the places I"m supposed to check. :-P

101   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:49pm  

"I dont want to diffuse your brilliant flame (out) in any way. "

Huh?

102   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:51pm  

Sorry to hear you're sick, SQT. We had that cold last week. Don't delete the crap! Resist! :-) Good for you slogging through it anyway.

103   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:53pm  

"Im just saying I wanted you to have your day."

My day to what? Talk to the wall? Please. As if I did anything but waste my time, waste everyone's time, and waste valuable blog space.

104   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:55pm  

"I used a sitcom line on the “huh” thread because I wasn’t feeling clever enough to come up with my own line."

I just saw that and LOL'd. But I had to hurry back here for fear of upsetting Jack.

105   Jamie   2005 Nov 8, 2:56pm  

"God try to be polite around here and get nothing but FLACK!"

Sorry, I like when you're being completely impolite. No, really.

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