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4292   Patrick   2010 Oct 20, 11:34am  

I implemented an "ignore" link next to comments a while ago so you can ignore people if you want. If you want to argue, you can do that too.

Let me know if I can improve that somehow.

4293   tarkin   2010 Oct 20, 11:40am  

A so called financial expert goes on record as saying its ok not to know who you own money to.

Tell the police that you don’t know who the $1000.00 goes to that you send to a specific post office box each month.

Pay on a mortgage that you knowingly do not have complete and up-to-date information on.

They are irresponsible.

4294   tarkin   2010 Oct 20, 11:46am  

It’s unacceptable that the same banks that have accurately tracked and consistently disclosed ownership of Student Loans have at the same failed to track and state ownership of mortgages.

4295   thomas.wong1986   2010 Oct 20, 1:28pm  

Mark_LA says

Without these 5 or so opposing viewpoints, the discussion on this board would grind to a halt and we’d be singing to the choir & have our heads in the sand.

yep! lets get out what people are thinking, and sometimes correct the myths some throw around.

4296   seaside   2010 Oct 20, 2:40pm  

Mark, yeah, that's it.

I was always curious about why some people do certain things till I personally met this local guy who is a dirty con artist. He is a son of bitch and I have no problem seeing him handcuffed though, he kind of opened my eyes up on those things I had no clue about. No one is completely useless.

4297   Philistine   2010 Oct 20, 3:44pm  

I miss HaHa and OO and az_rob and all the other original gangsta's that used to stir up trouble. It was a much more clever and insightful patrick.net back in those days. I wish there were an opposite-of-ignore button that would conjure up their wild and witty commentary on any given thread I happen to be reading on this new forum.

4298   Austinhousingbubble   2010 Oct 20, 5:12pm  

Without these 5 or so opposing viewpoints, the discussion on this board would grind to a halt and we’d be singing to the choir & have our heads in the sand. You can choose to put your head in the sand by clicking the ignore button on everyone who doesn’t agree with you.

Even though your icon makes me want to break shit, I agree with you...I dislike the ignore button. Is this a forum or an amen corner?

4299   anonymous   2010 Oct 20, 5:41pm  

i agree

bring back catvation

4300   Philistine   2010 Oct 21, 2:06am  

ptiemann says

I miss surfer-x with his unique way of expression

Yeah, he was one of the best. His use of anger and foul language never failed to be eloquent and entertaining. That musta been 4 years ago by now.

4301   justme   2010 Oct 21, 3:10am  

Philistine says

I miss HaHa and OO and az_rob and all the other original gangsta’s that used to stir up trouble.

I thought az_rob and Roberto Aribas was the same guy. Am I wrong, Roberto?

4302   bubblesitter   2010 Oct 21, 4:25am  

justme says

Philistine says

I miss HaHa and OO and az_rob and all the other original gangsta’s that used to stir up trouble.

I thought az_rob and Roberto Aribas was the same guy. Am I wrong, Roberto?

Correct roberto is the new name.

4303   bubblesitter   2010 Oct 21, 4:25am  

Where is Nomo nowadays?

4304   vain   2010 Oct 21, 8:05am  

The MLS listing for 21 Penhurst Ave, Daly City, CA 94015 shows this in the private agent remarks:

Private : REO. Title conveyed via Special Warr. Deed &/or local equiv. ALL offers subj to terms & cond in Seller Contr. Buyer to close with Seller’s Closing Firm if not buyer to pay for owner’s title policy, regardless of local custom. List seller as Owner of record

I'm assuming this is a situation where they take titles even though they have misplaced the note? The bank is willing to guarantee the title it appears.

4305   Vicente   2010 Oct 21, 12:49pm  

Some us cannot resist reaching for that....

4306   knewbetter   2010 Oct 22, 5:01am  

Gotta love insurance. All you have to do is look at how the companies are structured to see its a sham.

4307   RayAmerica   2010 Oct 24, 2:12am  

Texas wins series in 6 games.

4308   Kat7507   2010 Oct 25, 9:29am  

It's very scary out there. These people have degrees and they are still out of work.

4309   RayAmerica   2010 Oct 25, 9:43am  

The one that was really amazing was the guy that had to settle for a part-time job at Target for $9.50 an hour and he was glad to get it. Even if you had your home paid for, how could you survive in San Jose on a part time job paying close to minimum wage?

4310   ordertaker   2010 Oct 25, 9:45am  

It was $9.25 per hour. Scary, for sure.

4311   RayAmerica   2010 Oct 25, 9:48am  

How about the lady that was making $70K and is now reduced to digging in garbage bins for recyclables?

4312   CaffeineAddict   2010 Oct 25, 10:20am  

Yikes. Lots of sad stories. :(

The guy who made 200k+/yr, in his early 50s it looks like, but ate through all their savings AND retirement savings in 2 yrs 3 months?

I guess people didn't realize that if they work for 40 years, assuming everything goes right and you want to live a similiar lifestyle, if you live another 15 years, you probably should be saving ~20-25% of your gross income...not the -0.5% Americans have been doing.

Sadly if that situation hit most of us, including myself, I would be in the same situation. Guess all those bailouts didn't work at all.

4313   Katy Perry   2010 Oct 25, 10:27am  

I feel for this man.

4314   tatupu70   2010 Oct 25, 10:30am  

RayAmerica says

How about the lady that was making $70K and is now reduced to digging in garbage bins for recyclables?

Obviously these people just aren't working hard enough--right Ray? After all, anyone that can't find work just isn't trying, right?

4315   Katy Perry   2010 Oct 25, 10:33am  

I wish I had a booth at that job fair offering Ayahuasca tourism.

4316   klarek   2010 Oct 25, 10:43am  

RayAmerica says

The one that was really amazing was the guy that had to settle for a part-time job at Target for $9.50 an hour and he was glad to get it. Even if you had your home paid for, how could you survive in San Jose on a part time job paying close to minimum wage?

Sell it, rent, live on the profits. Or stay and try to cover the RE taxes.

4317   CaffeineAddict   2010 Oct 25, 10:47am  

klarek says

RayAmerica says

The one that was really amazing was the guy that had to settle for a part-time job at Target for $9.50 an hour and he was glad to get it. Even if you had your home paid for, how could you survive in San Jose on a part time job paying close to minimum wage?

Sell it, rent, live on the profits. Or stay and try to cover the RE taxes.

Who's going to buy it if so many people are unemployed?

The people who ARE employed are either 1) too scared to buy because they're worried they'll be unemployed 2) won't buy at the price that the sellers expect

4318   klarek   2010 Oct 25, 10:47am  

CaffeineAddict says

Who’s going to buy it if so many people are unemployed?

Are housing prices there below $0? It's paid for. Someone will buy it. Don't be dramatic.

4319   RayAmerica   2010 Oct 25, 10:56am  

tatupu70 says

Obviously these people just aren’t working hard enough–right Ray? After all, anyone that can’t find work just isn’t trying, right?

When did I ever say that?

4320   tatupu70   2010 Oct 25, 11:24am  

RayAmerica says

tatupu70 says


Obviously these people just aren’t working hard enough–right Ray? After all, anyone that can’t find work just isn’t trying, right?

When did I ever say that?

Maybe I misunderstood your feelings on welfare. I thought you believed that everyone on welfare was simply too lazy to find work. They enjoyed living off the government.

Do you now think that welfare is a good thing?

4321   RayAmerica   2010 Oct 25, 11:29am  

tatupu70 says

Maybe I misunderstood your feelings on welfare. I thought you believed that everyone on welfare was simply too lazy to find work. They enjoyed living off the government.
Do you now think that welfare is a good thing?

When did I ever say "EVERYONE on welfare" is "too lazy to find work?" Be my guest and copy and paste anything that is even remotely close to that.

If you are going to attempt to debate, at least make an effort to be somewhat truthful. This is just another pitiful example of how lame the left really is.

4322   Austinhousingbubble   2010 Oct 25, 11:31am  

Republican v Dem is a debate for the goddamn scrapheap. Try the American people v the emerging Corporatocracy.

At least this theme is finally finding its way into the broader public consciousness. Five years ago, NOBODY talked about it. I don't think you can say that now.

4323   schmitz_kris   2010 Oct 25, 11:42am  

It's a sunny version of Detroit, right down to the few pathetic excuses for "skyscrapers" downtown all being empty.

4325   xenogear3   2010 Oct 26, 1:35am  

If so many people out of job, why is the house price in San Jose so high?

In fact, from 2000 to 2010, the house price was doubled but 150k people lost job.
How can that be possible?

4326   Patrick   2010 Oct 26, 2:56am  

One factor is that the jumbo loan limit in San Jose was raised to $729,750 specifically to screw buyers as much as possible.

Of course our dear "representatives" didn't put it that way. The official reason was "to support home prices" but the actual intended effect is to get you as deeply into debt as possible, because it's no longer legal to enslave you with iron chains. They have to use the chains of debt, but it works almost as well.

The higher jumbo loan limit means that banks can originate loans for up to that amount with no risk, because they can sell the loans with the explicit guarantee of payment from Fannie Mae, which really means the explicit guarantee of payment by Tea Party fools in the midwest and south who are too busy protesting health care for black people to notice that they're being bankrupted by mortgages in California.

4327   native94027   2010 Oct 26, 2:59am  

CaffeineAddict says

Who’s going to buy it if so many people are unemployed?

I would, if they dropped the asking price enough.

4328   zzyzzx   2010 Oct 26, 3:12am  

CaffeineAddict says

Yikes. Lots of sad stories. (
The guy who made 200k+/yr, in his early 50s it looks like, but ate through all their savings AND retirement savings in 2 yrs 3 months?

I was wondering about that one myself. I mean, when you are in your early 50's you should probably already have enpugh cash stashed to live off of for at least 15 years.

4329   RayAmerica   2010 Oct 26, 3:15am  

Tea Party fools in the midwest and south who are too busy protesting health care for black people

Please provide your source for that statement.

4330   zzyzzx   2010 Oct 26, 3:16am  

tatupu70 says

RayAmerica says


How about the lady that was making $70K and is now reduced to digging in garbage bins for recyclables?

Obviously these people just aren’t working hard enough–right Ray? After all, anyone that can’t find work just isn’t trying, right?

I agree tat they aren't trying hard enough. Around here all you see cleaning office buildings are Mexicans. That and I'm sure it's still all Mexicans picking fruit, etc.

4331   CaffeineAddict   2010 Oct 26, 7:14am  

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6470184n&tag=contentBody;housing

Another story.

It's kind of hard to feel sorry at all for that young couple who overbought, lived it up, now living rent/mortgage-free and is going to walk away. He's an auditor of all things. Wonder if he shows any mercy to those he audits? My guess is no.

Actually forget feeling sorry for him. The man should be stoned. He doesn't even feel remorseful or guilty about it unlike the other people. He sounds like he's almost proud of it.

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