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Why tax cuts for the rich make no sense..


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2010 Nov 20, 4:08pm   3,057 views  10 comments

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Democrats and Republicans agree on extending tax cuts to the middle class. People who are already struggling to get by do not want to see their taxes go up on January 1.

The question is how to define middle class and whether to give tax breaks to the rich that would add nearly three-quarters of a trillion dollars to the deficit. How the two parties handle this question in the next few days or weeks will signal who they really are, whether they will be able to govern together with a divided Congress, and what lessons they took away from the election this month.

Given the more than 60 percent disapproval rates for both parties, it's clear that this election was a mandate for helping solve the problems of the millions of Americans who are out of work and the two-thirds of American workers who are now living month to month. It was not a mandate for more gridlock, ideological battles or a continued transfer of wealth from the ordinary Americans who voted for members of Congress on November 3 to the special interests who paid for their campaigns.

For the Republicans, this is a test of whether they are serious about governing. They ran this year, as they have for 30 years, against deficits. Yet under George W. Bush they doubled the national debt -- by handing over tax breaks to the rich without offsetting them with either tax hikes on somebody else or spending cuts, by funding a war in Iraq without asking anyone to sacrifice to pay for it (other than our kids and grandkids, who will pay trillions for it), and by adding more than half a trillion in new unfunded provisions to Medicare that are now impossible to repeal without losing the votes of senior citizens.

Now Republican leaders say they have come back to their senses and accepted the gospel of fiscal restraint. This is a test of whether that is true. They are demanding the same unfunded tax cuts to the rich, for the same three-quarters of a trillion dollars in debt charged to our children's credit cards, and advancing the weak rationalization that the rich are "job creators."

Given that the Bush tax cuts coincided with the most sustained period of private-sector job loss in this country since the Great Depression, and that there is no credible challenge to the view showing that tax cuts to the rich are far more likely to wind up in hedge funds than in the pockets of newly hired workers, Republicans need to decide whether paying off their wealthy campaign contributors trumps doing the right thing.

While for the Republicans this is a test of whether they are serious about governing, for the Democrats it is a test of whether they are capable of governing -- and whether they will continue to play checkers while the Republicans play chess. They know that tax cuts to the rich are bad policy and bad politics. From a policy standpoint, we can't afford them. From a political standpoint, the average American does not believe millionaires and billionaires are in need of government assistance.

In a survey of more 1,000 Americans I conducted with Media Matters Action Network in September, a single sentence summed up the views of Americans across the political spectrum: "In tough times like these, millionaires and billionaires should be giving to charity, not getting it." That simple values statement beat Republican talking points about extending tax breaks to millionaire "job creators" with swing voters by nearly 40 points.

So what are the options for Democrats, who need to demonstrate to the country that they are willing to compromise with Republicans to solve the country's problems but are not willing to compromise on principle -- in this case, principles of fairness shared by most Americans, who have been watching their income decline while the income of bankers, CEOs and hedge fund managers continues to skyrocket?

The "compromise" floated by President Obama's adviser David Axelrod -- extending tax cuts to the rich temporarily, even though they are economically useless, fiscally irresponsible and politically unpopular -- suggests that the White House needs a house cleaning, because the president and his key advisers clearly do not understand the message the American people sent in this election.

Voters are not interested in compromise for compromise sake. They are not interested in bad bipartisan decisions for the sake of bipartisanship. And above all, they are not interested in weak leadership and the politics of appeasement.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-New York, has proposed extending the tax cuts to families earning less than $1 million. That is a serious proposal and a serious compromise.

It would cost American taxpayers about $8 billion a year, but it has two advantages. First, it eliminates any concern about raising taxes on small business owners or people who live in large metropolitan areas, where $250,000 a year (the cutoff for tax cuts vs. tax hikes under Obama's proposal) is arguably not "rich." Second, it draws a clear line in the sand: As a nation, we are going to cut the taxes of working and middle-class Americans -- and we will even make sure we don't raise taxes on the 3 percent of small business owners who could get caught in the $250,000 net.

A similar alternative would set the ceiling for tax cuts at half a million, which would accomplish many of the same goals and allow Democrats the same advantage of being able to hold Republicans accountable if they try to cut the taxes of millionaires and billionaires, since anyone who has made $500,000 a year for a couple years or more has either put away more than $1 million (and hence is a millionaire) or needs a 12-step program for shopping.

The only question, then, is whether to extend the middle-class tax cuts long enough to help struggling families through the roughest economic patch since the Great Depression or to make them permanent, which would be politically expedient but arguably reckless for a country that is considering cuts to programs such as Social Security and education to get back to the balanced budgets of the Clinton years.

This is the first real test for both parties following the election. It will tell us whether Republicans intend to help govern or just to spend the next two years campaigning against the president, and it will tell us whether the Democrats intend to stand up for the principles they profess -- including holding vote after vote in the Senate if they have to until they get a fiscally responsible middle-class tax cut passed. Voters would like to see Republicans show a little heart and Democrats show a little spine.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/11/19/westen.tax.cuts.politics/index.html

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1   elliemae   2010 Nov 20, 11:49pm  

IMHO, the reason that they want to extend tax cuts to the rich is because those are the people who donate to politicians. If they don't cut their taxes, there won't be enough money left over to pay for the politicos who don't give a shit about us anyway.

2   Vicente   2010 Nov 21, 2:09am  

"The rich are always going to say that, you know, 'Just give us more money, and we'll go out and spend more, and then it will all trickle down to the rest of you.' But that has not worked the last 10 years, and I hope the American public is catching on." - Warren Buffett, billionaire

From this interview:

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/warren-buffett-read-lips-raise-taxes/story?id=12199889

3   Â¥   2010 Nov 21, 3:18am  

elliemae says

they want to extend tax cuts to the rich is because those are the people who donate to politicians

worse than that. They will donate to their opponents in the primary and general. cf. the Tea Party. We're talking, what, $100B/yr here? If I were teh rich I'd give a 1% cut back to the politicians that made it all happen for me.

Total spending this cycle was around $4B apparently.

The only antidote for this is an intelligent, informed electorate. Given that around half the people in this country believe God poofed humans onto this planet ~6000 years ago, I'd short that.

4   HousingWatcher   2010 Nov 21, 5:07am  

I have a novel idea that makes sense: Cut taxes for the rich with a trigger that automatically raises taxes back to the Clinton years if the unemployment rate does not fall to 6% within 2 years. So if the Republicans say that tax cuts for the rich create jobs, then let's take them up on their claims.

5   Â¥   2010 Nov 22, 6:57am  

shrekgrinch says

So, go ahead and ‘raise taxes on the rich’. I am sure it will make you all feel better but that is all it will do.

Something's gotta give here. I'm all for cutting gov't spending to live within our means but that's only one side of the coin.

People earning money from capital investment are more than welcome to take their capital to Paraguay if they don't like investing here. We'll print more.

Part of the problem of the economy is that interest never sleeps while labor has to. The deck is stacked against labor as compounding interest on intergenerational wealth is claiming a bigger and bigger share of our productivity.

I don't have any answers, other than taxing land and natural resources more. Maybe that would be enough, maybe not.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/AWHI

6   Â¥   2010 Nov 22, 7:07am  

shrekgrinch says

What was the government raking in from the rich before the recent bust? 65% and climbing.

This is more an artifact from the rich seizing the absolute lion's share of capital investment.

The top 10% own 90% of this country now.

But they are playing poor, saying "we have no money".

This chart is % dividend/rent/interest income vs total income in California.

Post Prop 13, the idle wealthy have really been raking it in.

7   fdhfoiehfeoi   2010 Nov 22, 7:07am  

Taxes = Money we earn wasted by the government

Tax Cuts = Less money for the government to waste

Tax Cuts for the rich/poor/middle class = Ibid

This is a simple issue, don't bureaucratize it.

8   Â¥   2010 Nov 22, 7:10am  

NuttBoxer says

This is a simple issue, don’t bureaucratize it.

Yet Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Germany have higher taxes and a higher functioning and happier society than us.

Your ideology apparently fails to account for the observed fact that all taxes come out of rents.

Cut taxes, and rents just go up in response. This is because land is fixed in supply and will always be bid up to the point of pain.

Part of the Bush Housing Boom of 2003-2006 was driven by the 2001-2003 tax cuts. Cutting taxes 10 years ago didn't result in a stronger economy, it was part of the process that crippled us.

9   Fisk   2010 Nov 22, 7:21am  

Troy says

Yet Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Germany have higher taxes and a higher functioning and happier society than us.

Yes, but's let's stop pretending those are just taxes on "rich".
You lived in Japan and I defer to you there, but I lived and worked in Germany a bit.
They tax the living **** out of rich (actually anyone slightly above median income) via income taxes, and out of poor via VAT (20 - 25%) on everything and effectively >100% on gas, alcohol, and tobacco (not that I mind the last two). In Germany at least cars are affordable (I guess because of powerful domestic car industry), but in Norway Corolla is close to 40 K USD and Camry is truly a luxury vehicle. Now tell our low-income and (D) voters you are gonna tax their booze, smokes, gas, and rides like there - see what they tell yua :-)

10   Â¥   2010 Nov 22, 8:17am  

shrekgrinch says

But all we have is the VA, Medicare and the DMV as examples of what will be in store for us. No thanks.”

Pay peanuts get monkeys.

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