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7522   elliemae   2011 Jun 12, 8:58am  

Tot has obviously found his niche where he belongs - he doesn't have to communicate effectively or work with others. Good for him.

"Developers spite their egos welcome enlightenment on superior processes, or even new processes. So that things don’t go stale."

However, much of the time when he's attempting to communicate here we aren't speaking the same language.

7523   marcus   2011 Jun 12, 9:11am  

In programmer lingo 'high level' (which he is calling superior processes), refers to what the program is actually doing for the user, or the way it's doing it (the user interface). IT's above the level the details of how it will occur or the code,... its describing logically what actually happens (or needs to happen).

"spite" means ",in spite of."

Gosh Ellie, do I have to explain everything ?

7524   elliemae   2011 Jun 12, 9:37am  

...and here I was thinking that programmers are treating their (alter) egos with "a malicious, usually petty, desire to harm, annoy, frustrate, or humiliate another person," that they welcome the state of enlightenment possibly in a ceremony which includes peyote or other controlled substances (which would explain the "superior processes)" - or new processes for those people who've never partaken during such a spiritual ceremony. And of course, that they would have such a ceremony expeditiously so that the drugs don't get stale.

I was wayyyyyyyyyyyyy off.

7525   Done!   2011 Jun 12, 10:00am  

Time for another drinkey poo over at the goat farm Ellie?

7526   marcus   2011 Jun 12, 11:00am  

Taxpayer says

The article means that no one has automatic right to a big screen tv just because they exist on this planet.

How can they get their propaganda from newscorp, if they don't have a big screen tv or a car radio ?

I think that if a zygote doesn't have the right to not exist, then the least we could do is promise them a TV.

Also, if they promise not to be a criminal, which will cost the government what, 50 to 65K/year (or more ?), I think the least we can do is give them a big screen TV. Maybe a decent meal every now and then too. Obviously they would rather have the dignity of a decent job, but hey, sometimes that's just not in the cards.

7527   elliemae   2011 Jun 12, 11:48am  

Taxpayer says

elliemae, learn some basic comprehension skills before posting bs.

Awe, shucks, I guess that I should've learned basic comprehension skills, even though they obviously lacked basic communication skills (such as the ability to put their meaning into the written word).
Taxpayer says

The article means that no one has automatic right to a big screen tv just because they exist on this planet.

But that's not what it actually says. You're just assuming that's what they meant.

Taxpayer says

I guess like all liberal whiners you want a big screen tv delivered to your door...

Absolutely I want a big screen tv delivered to my door. In fact, I just checked to see if one had been delivered today, but it's Sunday in Utah and no one works on Sunday - except the multi-level marketers and internet scammers.

Taxpayer says

...and a thank you note from all the people who paid for it.

That would be awesome. I'll check the mailbox tomorrow. ;)
marcus says

I think that if a zygote doesn't have the right to not exist, then the least we could do is promise them a TV.

Marcus raises a valid point; I believe that if I should automatically get a big screen tv, we should implant teeny televisions inside every womb. Hopefully they won't have cables attached, 'cause that would be horribly inconvenient, to say the least.

7528   elliemae   2011 Jun 12, 11:50am  

Tenouncetrout says

Time for another drinkey poo over at the goat farm Ellie?

Yea, it's beer-thirty somewhere.

7529   elliemae   2011 Jun 12, 11:52am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK says

Every Democratic voter I ever met was insane with hunger to knife an American, take his wallet, and buy a al qaeda illegal a big TV! It’s like a entrance examination or something.

That's just crazy! We don't want to buy anyone else a tv, we want our own. We demand our own! You're right about the knifing, tho - guns are for republicans. (ellie sheepishly hides the guns behind the big screen tv...)

7530   Bap33   2011 Jun 12, 12:13pm  

@marcus,
I totally agree with political amimal behavior. There is very little honor in politics these days. Is it possible for me to have some intellect and still have extreemly conservative views about the human condition?

On Subject: @Sim,
I asked my wife, she said, "I don't care, get away from me! I thought that site was about housing!! What in the hell are you doing on there?" I bet Gemorrians are never treated so gruffly by their mate!

7531   marcus   2011 Jun 12, 12:22pm  

Hey Tot, look at the balloon animal that's number 1 on reddit today.

http://www.reddit.com/top/

7532   elliemae   2011 Jun 12, 12:23pm  

AF:

I resent that - I'm not greedy. I definitely deserve more than the next guy/gal, but that's because I'm a bleeding heart, do-gooder liberal. I helped an old lady carry her groceries to her car the other day...

(the "old lady" was me, and I did use the box-boy's help. And I didn't tip him... But I did tell him where the local food bank is located, even tho I know he doesn't have a car and there's no bus service on his end of town).

Since he obviously can't afford cable/satellite, can I have his tv too? My republican ex-husband's man cave is missing the big screen since he left.

7533   marcus   2011 Jun 12, 12:24pm  

Also a winner: http://imgur.com/23eS1

Note, we can't post pics on here right now.

7534   elliemae   2011 Jun 12, 1:07pm  

Bap, tell the wife howdy fer us. ;)

7535   MisdemeanorRebel   2011 Jun 13, 3:11am  

No country can keep pace with us because we spend our entire income and corporate tax revenue on the military.

Pretty soon, we won't be able to keep pace with ourselves and may have to use the F-15 until 2040.

7536   MisdemeanorRebel   2011 Jun 13, 3:12am  

A favorite:

7537   HousingWatcher   2011 Jun 14, 3:31am  

"they are attempting to prevent the recess of congress………ANY recess of the 112th congress………"

That's a great idea. They should work 12 months a year passing bills that create jobs.

7538   merlino   2011 Jun 14, 8:17am  

I find scary that Bachman would get probably more than 40% of the national votes against Obama. Same thing for Palin.

7539   leo707   2011 Jun 14, 9:10am  

In fact, Bachmann equivocated only once, when she couldn’t choose between Elvis Presley and Johnny Cash. Go figure.

I don't see what her problem is, as much as I like Elvis, Johnny Cash is clearly better.

7540   tatupu70   2011 Jun 14, 9:24am  

I'm all for Bachmann. I think she might be even better for Democrats than Palin. I'm not sure there's a Republican candidate that can actually win in the general election.

7541   Vicente   2011 Jun 14, 3:00pm  

One brave politician has taken up protecting circumcision as his cause.

http://bradsherman.house.gov/2011/06/sherman-to-introduce-bill-to-protect-male-circumcision.shtml

So I'll see Shrek & Co. on the campaign donor list to Brad Sherman next year?

7542   simchaland   2011 Jun 14, 4:24pm  

Michele Bachmann would be the Republican wet dream candidate. She's practically interchangeable with Sistah Sarah. The teabaggers will have furry palms before the end of the election season.

7543   nope   2011 Jun 14, 4:54pm  

The GOP leadership will never let Palin or Bachmann secure the nomination. They'll like to keep them around to fire up the base, but they know damn well that they won't have a chance of winning the 20% or so of voters who aren't automatically voting for one party or another.

(30-40% of people will vote republican no matter who they ran)

7544   tatupu70   2011 Jun 15, 7:35am  

Wow--your reading comprehension skills really need some work. Could you show me exactly where he is OPPOSING anything in his quote?

Explaining what happened is different than opposing it.

7545   leo707   2011 Jun 15, 9:03am  

shrekgrinch says

Kevin says

The GOP leadership will never let Palin or Bachmann secure the nomination

And how, exactly would they be able to accomplish that? The RNC is a paper tiger, as is the DNC.

Yeah, I am afraid that I have to agree with shrek on this one. I don't know if I would call the RNC and DNC paper tigers, but I don't think they have enough control to prevent Palin or Bachmann getting the nomination.

Ultimately I don't think that they will, but I would not rule it out.

7546   tatupu70   2011 Jun 15, 9:22am  

shrekgrinch says

Why? Who said I am opposing Obama being a luddite? I never made that contention….and you bitch about ‘my’ reading comprehension skills?

Yes, I am saying that. How on earth did you think that I was referring to you opposing Obama.

You claimed that Obama is a luddite. You then claim a luddite " opposes the changes or outright elimination in existing, status quo industries"

So again, please show me in your posted quote where Obama OPPOSES anything.

7547   Done!   2011 Jun 15, 9:30am  

OH there Nomograph goes attacking another asshole...

AGAIN!

7548   Done!   2011 Jun 15, 9:40am  

Where doesn't it say I can't expect anything? I'm entitled to anything I think will benefit me.

All I got to do is bust my ass and go get it. But entitled is one of those words that if you use it, like it's a bad word that will rabble the crowd. Then you're definitely part of the problem.

People on the receiving end of the Dole aren't the problem, unless they are committing fraud. The problem is the people that further layer the system that keeps people on the dole.

7549   Bap33   2011 Jun 15, 9:48am  

Since a corporation is owned by investors, and investors gain money when a corp does well, why would profits be a bad thing?

When the porfit shareing model was in full swing, the public sector could not afford the great people working for profit. Today the public sector is where the gravey is due to profit demonization.

The sucking sound is your tax dollars headed to the local school admin dept.

Welfare and a few other progressive/liberal/leftist brainchildren have ruined America. Not a boogyman named Reagan.

7550   FortWayne   2011 Jun 15, 10:33am  

no its just a proof that our government is a colossal failure.

7551   EBGuy   2011 Jun 15, 11:19am  

Don't worry, prepaid debit cards used for government benefits are exempt from the new law. Where there's a will:
Last year, 10 state treasurers successfully prodded lawmakers to shield prepaid debit cards from part of the Dodd-Frank financial-overhaul law that limits so-called "swipe fees" charged to retailers. Prepaid debit cards also are exempt from a 2009 law that outlawed fees for infrequent card use. In addition, most of those cards aren't subject to Federal Reserve rules requiring debit-card users to agree before banks can charge them for overdrawing the balance in their account.

Richard Davis, U.S. Bancorp's chairman, president and chief executive, said last month that prepaid debit cards and other products will help the company recover roughly half of the revenue likely to be lost from swipe-fee rules being written by regulators. The banking industry is lobbying to repeal or delay the rules.

7552   marcus   2011 Jun 15, 12:32pm  

Bap33 says

Today the public sector is where the gravey is due to profit demonization.

It only appears to be gravy relatively speaking because everyone else has it so tough. You didn't hear people claiming that 15 years ago, or 5years ago for that matter. But now that we're in a depression, and the economy hasn't grown as scheduled, the states are broke, and the government employees are the problem?

Care to elaborate. I don't understand this (at all):

Bap33 says

When the porfit shareing model was in full swing, the public sector could not afford the great people working for profit. Today the public sector is where the gravey is due to profit demonization.

tatupu70 says

All the money ends up at the top at the end of the game.

And we now have money and corporations influencing politics in an unprecedented way, with a sort of feeback loop, where it's very hard to see this not going further in this direction. If it gets to where the propaganda is insufficient, there is plenty of money to blitz the ignorant with the message they need to blitz them with. Fox news and talk radio is only the beginning.

If the quiet majority doesn't stand up fairly soon, it's over.

7553   marcus   2011 Jun 15, 12:38pm  

Actually, I don't know that there is a quiet majority that really understands what's happening. But I think that there are a lot of intelligent people who know that we should have single payer health care (maybe with supplemental or alternative options ), and people who question our governments priorities.

As I and others have said, the only hope is limiting campaign contributions and limiting lobbying money to where politicians actually represent the peoples best interests.

7554   marcus   2011 Jun 15, 1:00pm  

I got in a little debate with shirk about this before. The interesting thing is I'm pretty sure that even Shirk acknowledges that in the short run major technologies can displace workers.

**Observing technology displacing workers is not the same as opposing the technology so the jobs can come back. The latter is what a Luddite does.

It's as short and to the point as I can make it, I have nothing more to say on this. Shrek, you are free to misinterpret me, Jackson or Obama to your hearts content.

**This sentence will later be shown to be ignored or misunderstood by Shrek. Actually he may understand, and his goal is just to either mess up this forum or possibly he thinks he's spicing it up.

7555   MisdemeanorRebel   2011 Jun 15, 1:21pm  

Disintermediate the bastards.

7556   MisdemeanorRebel   2011 Jun 15, 1:49pm  

It's hard to beat an simple yet elegant --- but false --- conception of reality with facts.

We wonder how bad guys get into power and stay there, it's usually because the "Big Lie" works. The Big Lie is simple and elegant and speaks to common misconceptions, and it's amplified through propaganda. It compounds actually, because the Media knows it will get flak for running "Truth" stories, so it runs "Confirmation Bias" stories instead.

2007 Budget to Scale (HUGE PICTURE)

It's not 2007, but the mixture is about the same. Note this does NOT include the huge "Supplementals" for Iraq and Afghanistan.

7557   klarek   2011 Jun 16, 12:04am  

Classes, open houses... they will do anything which appears magnanimous or good-willed just to lure suckers into their traps.

7558   mnsweeps   2011 Jun 16, 1:19am  

lol !! I am attending one offered by redfin.com in the San Fernando valley..I am going just have some free drinks ( not koolaid) and food....I want to listen to the RE morons and see what they said..In QA I will be asking some pointed questions ... lol !! will be fun..

7559   Cook County resident   2011 Jun 16, 1:33am  

shrekgrinch says

A while back, I started a topic called Democrat Luddite Idiot Displays Poor Understanding of Economics: Blame iPad for Unemployment.

The apologists all made excuses for the Dem luddite in question…that I ‘misinterpreted’ what he said, etc.

Why are you so sure Jesse Jackson Jr's iPad comments weren't the opening shot of a potential shakedown on Apple?

7560   FortWayne   2011 Jun 16, 2:21am  

you know you are in a bad place when you show up at lectures that start with "Buy now or be priced out forever".

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