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ANys tate that passes voter suppression, I mean voter ID laws, should be sued by DOJ for violating the Voting Rights Act.

Not to mention, if a state with voter ID laws does NOT offer free IDs, is that not an illegal poll tax? After all, you have to pay for the iD to vote... hence a poll tax.

If the news report has it right, this should be a slam dunk for the Wisconsin employee at the Civil Service hearing.

I hope the court throws out all immunity against the official who fired him so that he could be PERSONALLY sued.

Here's some more detailed coverage of the story:

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/129469023.html

The employee, Chris Larsen, is described as a limited term employee. I don't know how many rights limited term employees have in Wisconsin, but they may not have much protection.

Larsen's firing is under review. Given all the attention this case has received, I'll bet Larsen gets his limited term job back. If he gets his job back, I don't think the courts will take much interest in the case.

I also don't think Wisconsin's republican Attorney General cares much. Eric Holder might, but he and OJ have been awfully busy looking for the real Wall Street Crooks.

So it's up to the voters. The republican party has gone malignant and nobody else can fix things up.

what ever happened to those black, Black Panthers, that were intimidating the white voters?

Bap33 says

what ever happened to those black, Black Panthers, that were intimidating the white voters?

The Black Panther party was disbanded in 1982.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party#New_Black_Panther_Party

Solution: Those involved in firing the whistle-blower ex-employee should have 50% of their pre-tax income (wages, soc. sec., etc.) garnished and sent to the ex-employee for life regardless of where they work. This will provide economic incentive for managers to NOT cover up what is essentially theft. It would also encourage more whistle-blowing.

HousingWatcher says

ANys tate that passes voter suppression, I mean voter ID laws, should be sued by DOJ for violating the Voting Rights Act.

Better idea: Pierce the government veil by prosecuting the individuals in government responsible for the voter suppression. Press criminal charges against those individuals. The fear of jail time will act as a much greater deterrent than the DOJ suing the state. How would such a lawsuit affect those directly responsible?

Here we go again with the Black Panthers. It was BUSH who downgraded the charges against them, not Obama:

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2010/07/12/bush-doj-decided-new-black-panthers-no-major-case/

UPDATED: Manufactured scandal: Right wing's phony allegations against the Justice Department

http://mediamatters.org/research/201007070020

And this from Politifact:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jul/23/bill-oreilly/bill-oreilly-blames-obama-administration-not-pursu/

"No more than not paying people's transportation to the polling booth is."

That's why we have absentee voting.

shrekgrinch says

HousingWatcher says

That's why we have absentee voting.

No, that isn't why we have it. We have it so massive vote fraud is easier to conduct.

Since Oregon only allows mail in voting which is essentially absentee voting there must be massive vote fraud happening there. Care to document all that fraud in Oregon Shrek? Nah I doubt it, actually working with facts isn't shrek's style.

Well you know it's "massive" if Fox News can report allegations that some dog-catcher or city councilman somewhere tried to stuff the ballot box. Now as to actually PROVING these allegations, or justifying how that is "massive", that's left to pointy-headed liberals who want REAL facts, not TRUTHY facts. People who read Michelle Malkin and receive their daily RDA of Fox News don't need that kind of followup and analysis to prove what they already know in their gut.

Washington state and the U.S. military also condcut virtually all voting by mail. So there must be fraud there too. Someone should alert the DOJ.

do you libs blame the ACORN embarassment on Bush too?

Bap33 says

do you libs blame the ACORN embarassment on Bush too?

and what ACORN embarrassment was that?

Facts (not truthy fox news facts)

Acorn verifies every registration the canvassers collect. If it can't be verified it is flagged. All registrations including the flagged ones are then turned in to election officials. This is required by law. All registrations must be turned in. So any suspect registrations collected by Acorn canvassers are also flagged by Acorn for election officials to check out.

Donald Duck, Mary Poppins, Mickey Mouse registered to vote with Acorn? Absolutely true. Why do we know? Because Acorn flagged them as them as fraudulent and turned them over to election officials. AS REQUIRED BY LAW.

Does it matter? No. Why is that? Because again by federal law anyone who does not register in person MUST show ID when they to vote. Unless Donald Duck has a state ID he isn't going to vote.

Of course non of this will matter to the fox news crowd. Vincent is correct truthy is all that matters.

shrekgrinch says

That's the entire point of absentee voting...they can't verify if even a human being or the proper human being voted at all. The whole thing is Voter Fraud, Incorporated by design.

And it's terrible when the GOP tries to take advantage of this:

http://news.racinepost.com/2008/09/gop-absentee-ballot-mailings-called.html

But the GOP has been unable to make much hay of this either for their own purposes or for politicial scorepoints, have they? Show me the hordes of absentee ballot fraud cases! You can't, because there may be a scattered few here and there but not enough to make a difference except in some little low-turnout dogcatcher race.

http://www.cleveland.com/schultz/index.ssf/2011/08/voter_fraud_is_just_a_dark_gop.html

Bap33 says

do you libs blame the ACORN embarassment on Bush too?

I can't believe you're still repeating this BS talking point that has been widely discredited. ACORN never engaged in any voter fraud. ACORN's workers defrauded ACORN, but there is absolutely zero evidence that any voter fraud occurred. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? Do you also have the missing Nixon tapes, and the location of Jimmy Hoffa's body, and the procedure for cold fusion?

The whole voter fraud thing is a sham and is just intended to suppress the vote and stir the pot.

When you hear something you wish to believe repeated enough times by the propaganda pushers you hold dear to your heart, no rational moderate (ie liberal commie fag) is going to make you capable of comprehending the truth.

Don't forget that one Acorn office where the guy pretending to be with the hooker talked to acorn people about what, how to get welfare or subsidized housing or something, and they were willing to help her. Fox was milking that for months.

Obviously if one acorn office has one corrupt individual, the entire organization is in question.

Too bad we can't hold congress to that standard.

So shrek, is there massive voter fraud in the military since those serving overseas all vote by mail?

I was not referring to any voting issue with ACORN .... touchy much?

I was referring to the slimebags that work there ,..... all of them.

Ann Coulter likely committed voter fraud a few years ago. Lucky for her the statute of limitations expired:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/ann-coulter-under-investi_n_165007.html

But Coulter does not count. Voter fraud is only a problem when it is allegedly committed by poor black people who vote Democrat.

Bap33 says

I was referring to the slimebags that work there ,..... all of them.

As if your propaganda outlets even gave you a clue who acorn is or what 90% of their activity is (was) about. What's it like to be as gullible as you are ?

These are the same people taught Bap that 90% of Planned Parenthood funding goes to abortions.

marcus says

These are the same people taught Bap that 90% of Planned Parenthood funding goes to abortions.

Bap's sort of hard to take seriously because of his/her general bad faith. Just look at his/her definition of liberal vs. conservative. It's highly inflammatory and has nothing to do with historical precedents -- it's just uniquely tailored around his/her personal beliefs. This is why talking about ideology is mostly useless -- it just leads to poor circular arguments.

The only people who actually use "liberal" vs. "conservative" correctly are the Australians. The Liberal Party in Australia would be called conservative here in the US, but it actually meets the definition of 19th century classical liberalism and not the stupid Nixonian definition that some people are obsessed with.