patrick.net

I understand your need to take one event that fits your narrative in total isolation of all reality and hold it up and disect it till the cows come home.

34 rdm 2012 Oct 17, 2:20am

There was likely both an intelligence failure and related to that a security failure. When the investigation is completed and if it shows that there was a warning that was ignored and that Clinton ignored it or inadequately prepared for it, yes she should resign. That is very very unlikely There are many layers below Clinton that deal with security matters, these people are not usually political appointees but career State Dept. people. Yes the buck stops at the top but without direct involvement there will be no direct consequence. Never (that I can remember) has that happened before and it will not happen now.

Clinton will be gone after Jan anyway, she will not serve another term as Secretary of State regardless of the outcome of the election. She and Bill clearly want Obama to win. If she decides to run for POTUS it is normally easier if the position is open rather than running against an incumbent.

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lostand confused 2012 Oct 17, 2:20am

My narrative remains in isolation because you refuse to discuss it on it's own merits.
why don't you start a thread on a specific event, and i'll show you how it can be discussed without muddying the waters with non-similar events.
I love to educate the uneducated.

LOL! You won't even see the folly in your position and now you are going to educate the uneducated. How cute.

36

Y 2012 Oct 17, 2:36am

Your name sez it all......
Case Closed.

SoftShell says

My narrative remains in isolation because you refuse to discuss it on it's own merits.

why don't you start a thread on a specific event, and i'll show you how it can be discussed without muddying the waters with non-similar events.

I love to educate the uneducated.

LOL! You won't even see the folly in your position and now you are going to educate the uneducated. How cute.

37

msilenus 2012 Oct 17, 2:39am

I asked you point blank if you are Shrek. Are you Shrek?

38

lostand confused 2012 Oct 17, 2:39am

Your name sez it all......
Case Closed.

Personal attacks. LOL!! Case closed.

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Y 2012 Oct 17, 2:42am

What part of "SoftShell" do you not understand??

I asked you point blank if you are Shrek. Are you Shrek?

40

Y 2012 Oct 17, 2:43am

So referring to a name that you gave yourself and want to be known as, is now a personal attack? LOLOL

SoftShell says

Your name sez it all......

Case Closed.

Personal attacks. LOL!! Case closed.

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lostand confused 2012 Oct 17, 2:46am

So referring to a name that you gave yourself and want to be known as, is now a personal attack? LOLOL

You were going to educate the uneducated?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

42

msilenus 2012 Oct 17, 3:09am

That is not a 'no.' It is a bullshit false insinuation that someone cannot post under multiple accounts, masquerading as an answer.

Positing that you are Shrek: you posted surely thousands of comments here. What does it say about them, that you refuse to acknowledge your patrimony for those public thoughts? That you first ignore and then dodge when someone asks if you're the real father.

What does that say about you? Your intellectual honesty? Your integrity? Your self-respect?

I said it before: it always seems to be the folks around here who are ostensibly about personal responsibility, who slough off an identity like a snake shedding its skin. The problem is that it does no good. When you shed only the skin, you leave the core unimproved. That core: intellectual, moral --is you. You can post a million posts, under a thousand names, and they will all, ultimately, become more bastard orphans of your mind. You will never say anything that you will, in the long run, be proud to call your own.

What part of "SoftShell" do you not understand??

msilenus says

I asked you point blank if you are Shrek. Are you Shrek?

43 pnovak 2012 Oct 17, 3:14am

Hilary may have taken the downfall but she added the air "but".
The Clinton are No martyrs

44

Y 2012 Oct 17, 9:32pm

your drooling again sonny....wipe your chin.

SoftShell says

So referring to a name that you gave yourself and want to be known as, is now a personal attack? LOLOL

You were going to educate the uneducated?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

45

Y 2012 Oct 17, 9:36pm

So you are incapable of determining my answer to your question by any method other than a "yes/no" reply?
Do you realize how stupid this makes you appear?

That is not a 'no.' It is a bullshit false insinuation that someone cannot post under multiple accounts, masquerading as an answer.

46

Y 2012 Oct 17, 9:40pm

What does it say about you, that you would waste so much time and energy attempting to tear down someone based upon a 'posit'?

Tell us exactly just what happened in your childhood to make you such an angry man?

We can help.

Positing that you are Shrek: you posted surely thousands of comments here. What does it say about them, that you refuse to acknowledge your patrimony for those public thoughts? That you first ignore and then dodge when someone asks if you're the real father.

What does that say about you? Your intellectual honesty? Your integrity? Your self-respect?

47

Y 2012 Oct 17, 10:28pm

I'm starting to feel sorry for you, so I'm going to make this easy.
The answer to your question is:
No.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/02/secretary-clinton-house-republ.html

That is not a 'no.' It is a bullshit false insinuation that someone cannot post under multiple accounts, masquerading as an answer.

48 kentm 2012 Oct 18, 11:44pm

Oh boy, you are a funny one Abe. You just keep us all in stitches. Anyway it HAS been reported that comrade Clinton Warned that republican budget cuts would endanger security.

But I suppose you won't care about that And will quickly get back to your usual posts of "gurgle gurgle snort gurgle har har larg..." I'd like to be around one day when it hits you, "gosh, I've been a fucking idiot"

49

Y 2012 Oct 19, 12:16am

Of course he doesn't.
It's Smokescreen City for all the bluebloods around here...
but it's understandable...
there is no defense for Clinton's non-action in libya on the anniversary of 9/11.

Call it Crazy says

Do you have any proof that these cuts were put in force???

50 kentm 2012 Oct 19, 12:21am

Why yes, "softshell", in a post you responded to, idiot.

kentm says

RELEVANT:

http://www.rollitup.org/politics/572476-house-gop-votes-cut-funding.html

house GOP votes to cut funding for embassy security, cries about embassy security

"In the 2011 continuing resolution, Congress, at the insistence of the House of Representatives, slashed the presidentâ€™s request for embassy security and construction and forced another cut in fiscal year 2012. Altogether Congress has eliminated $296 million from embassy security and construction in the last two years with additional cuts in other State Department security accounts."

you assholes.

51 kentm 2012 Oct 19, 12:21am

Yes, your link is relevant.

So given the lack of funds, she should have pulled them out of there.

She knows she's guilty, that's why she copped a plea...

You don't cop a plea if your innocent.

She should resign.

Case Closed.

idiot. You're apparently not capable of remembering or being consistent with your own posts. How can you claim to have any credence with any of the topics you post on? You ARE looking like shrek more and more with every post.

52

Y 2012 Oct 19, 1:31am

heh heh heh..
yes, you are right.
try programming for 12 hours on 7-11 coffee and see where your head winds up...

kentm says

idiot. You're apparently not capable of remembering or being consistent with your own posts. How can you claim to have any credence with any of the topics you post on? You ARE looking like shrek more and more with every post.

53 kentm 2012 Oct 19, 4:44pm

And I apologize for saying 'idiot'. It's just you come out so aggressively and say these stupid things...

You know, shrek was a programmer too...

54 gbenson 2012 Oct 21, 3:05am

It has since come out that the people at the CIA were getting really pissed because they kept warning the Bush admin that something was going on and kept getting rebuffed. When some of the CIA execs started to press the issue to be heard, the Bushies asked them to be 'reassigned' or excluded from meetings.

55

Y 2012 Dec 27, 3:33am

"Soft Ruki"??
We don't need to know your anatomical pet names.....

121212 says

Listen Soft RUKI! You moron, stop TROLLING my thread and posting bullshit.

56

Y 2012 Dec 27, 3:36am

stop deleting my posts so I don't have to repost.
you are wasting my time.

57

msilenus 2012 Dec 27, 3:36am

"Okay, you've covered your ass now." -George W. Bush

58

Tenpoundbass 2012 Dec 27, 3:38am

Merry Christmas 121212
I give you the hemorrhoid ring.

59

Y 2012 Dec 27, 3:58am

So when are you going to add "3" to your education?

121212 says

spoons

says

zzyzzx

says

121212

says

60

Y 2012 Dec 27, 3:58am

"Soft Ruki"??
We don't need to know your anatomical pet names.....

121212 says

Listen Soft RUKI! You moron, stop TROLLING my thread and posting bullshit.

an AR-15 is a Human hunting rifle!

Considering how overpopulated we are, maybe this is a good thing.

There is no human dignity in this comment.

He has no honor or dignity, he is plainly soulless..

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David Losh 2012 Dec 27, 4:44am

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

She has obviously done this to take the heat off Obama.

I never got the connection to Obama. It makes no sense that with all that is going on in the world, that he should have been watching only the embassy in Benghazi.

If you recall there were protests across North Africa, and every one was asking for added security. I have never seen that as a part of the reporting, but hey, it makes no difference.

Hillary is gone and Kerry will take over so you get your wish.

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Thedaytoday 2012 Dec 27, 7:12am

Clinton should resign!

LMFAO just like Condoleezza Rice did

Just like Ronald Reagan did over Iran Contra?

Come now Softshel you want political equality look at your own Republican history.

63

Y 2012 Dec 27, 7:30am

u boyz are 3 months late and a dollar short!
This case was decided and closed pre-thanksgiving...

Thedaytoday says

Clinton should resign!

LMFAO just like Condoleezza Rice did

Just like Ronald Reagan did over Iran Contra?

Come now Softshel you want political equality look at your own Republican history.

64

Y 2012 Dec 27, 7:32am

The Immaculate Concussion speaks volumes...

Thedaytoday says

Clinton should resign!

65

Y 2012 Dec 27, 7:34am

Look up 'clinton-lewinsky'...
the stained pizza box evidence is the same, the players are different...

David Losh says

SoftShell says

She has obviously done this to take the heat off Obama.

I never got the connection to Obama.

66 dublin hillz 2012 Dec 27, 7:43am

If you look close to the news reels you can see Hitlery, Obambam and Michelle Obambam firing at the embassy with their al quaeda buddies.

yeah i think i saw jeremiah encouraging them too - damn bandits!

67 HEY YOU 2012 Dec 27, 12:45pm

Bush & his administration should commit suicide for failing to protect America on 9-11 & then commit suicide for killing American soldiers & wasting American treasure in Iraq based on the lie of WMD.

I forgot. Bush was in school with his weapon protecting students on 9-11.

68

Y 2012 Dec 27, 12:56pm

Father Time will anoint George Bush as one of the greats. Mt Rushmore will be modified to include his visage....You are all blinded by current events to see the longterm impact of this great, wonderful president.

69 kentm 2012 Dec 27, 6:24pm