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Is this like when Obama got a Nobel peace prize for things he didn't do yet? I'll be wrong, when I'm paying about $150 a month for a family of four, and there are no copays. That's my idea of "Affordable Healthcare".

All of the costs are hidden now in out of pocket expenses, and not one single Love letter to ACA written to date, even begins to address the co payments, coins, and deductibles. It used to just be one it was called a deductible. But now they've found three whole new ways to make you pay 3 times for the same doctor's visit, on top of that "Premium" that the Liberal machine keeps everyone focused on. "Pay no attention to the details, most of you will get subsidized "Premiums"!"

2014 is long way away, it's only going to be longer, if you insist on trying to get me to agree with your unreferenced declarations.

2014, that will separate the Democrats from those that were lied to, not your articles from the ministry of propaganda.

CaptainShuddup says

I'll be wrong, when I'm paying about $150 a month for a family of four

Great, I'm glad you decided to be reasonable about this. LOL.

Don't stop there. Perhaps you would like a chauffeur-driven limousine to take you to the doctor, and some original Louie XIV furnishings in the waiting room. Maybe the nurses can toss rose petals at your feet as you walk in. And I think $150/month for a family of four is too much; they should pay YOU for the privilege of having you as a patient.

Homefool, you copied and pasted part of an opinion piece, pretending to invite people to read the rest of it, but you omitted any link and you don't even credit the author. Here is a link.

Forbes attributes the opinion piece to Richard Ungar, who states at the top of the page that he writes "from the left on politics and policy." His opinion expressly does not reflect the views of Forbes, contrary to Homefool's implication above. Instead, Ungar relies on a blog on The Washington Post, which supported Obamacare. Homefool fails to distinguish between fact and opinion, and fails even to keep track of whose opinion it is. Homefool passes off a personal opinion originally presented expressly as an opinion "from the left," as if it were fact and without attribution, apparently because it says what he wants it to say.

BTW, the fact that Ungar claims to write "from the left" only shows how the electoral deck has been re-shuffled and the Democratic party has turned against itself with this legislation. Previously, "the left" opposed Obamacare. That includes then-Senator Obama, who campaigned against it when it was called Hillary's Plan. Homefool doesn't care about that because he wants his subsidized pills so badly. Other people remember Obama's arguments against it, when evaluating what Obama eventually signed. IIRC, Obama opposed mandatory private insurance at a time when Forbes seemed to support it; tribal Democrats cite Forbes' shift as evidence of insincerity on the part of Republicans, without considering the implications of Obama's reversal with regard to his own sincerity. Forbes' motto is "The Capitalist Tool," and the site has gushed over increased profits for PhRMA with Obamacare, although the legislation is more accurately described as lemon socialism. Homefool's addiction to toxic disproved pills has put him in the awkward position of supporting a policy that Obama opposed and that even Forbes no longer supports, so Homefool tries to fool others with this unattributed opinion piece.

curious2 says

Homefool, you copied and pasted part of an opinion piece

curious2 says

so Homefool tries to fool others with this unattributed opinion piece.

The first thing he says is it's an op/ed piece. Op/ed stands for opinion/editorial. WTF don't you understand about that. Coming from someone who posts opinion articles as fact all the time that's a very funny accusation.

bob2356 says

Op/ed stands for opinion/editorial.

No, op/ed stands for "opposite editorial", i.e. opposite the editorial page. Bob's error and Homefool's post suggest neither of them understands the difference between fact and opinion.

bob2356 says

someone who posts opinion articles as fact all the time

As for Bob's false accusation, anyone who looks at my comments can see that he's wrong yet again, which happens often despite his inability ever to admit it. Bob's memory is so addled by Rx narcotics that he can't keep track of who said what. Long experience of Bob's sarcastic ingratitude has taught me to stop wasting time trying nicely to point him in the right direction, though a toxoplasmosis test might persuade him to get treatment or to give up driving.

Bob, this will be a good test for you: can you admit that you were wrong about what op/ed stands for? Can you admit any of the examples where I've corrected your errors for you, taking the time to provide clear proof, even where I went out of my way to be nice to you? Or are you merely a toxoplasmotic jerk ignoring facts and trolling for hopeless fights?

This is why I have curious2 on ignore.

Homeboy says

This is why I have curious2 on ignore.

Fools choose ignorance, and thus remain fools no matter how old they get. Their situation worsens when they choose to become addicts, compounding their pre-existing condition. Addicts find enablers who validate their feelings, thus continuing the cycle. Bob and Homefool disagree about Obamacare, but at least they have each other.

curious2 says

No, op/ed stands for "opposite editorial", i.e. opposite the editorial page.

Ok it stands for opposite the editorial page. As in OPINION opposite the editorial page. It's still opinion, which apparently everyone understands except you.

As for the rest of your bullshit, I really don't give a rats ass. Coming from someone who can't remember taking the MCATS (or at least claiming they took the MCATS) I'm not worried about my ability to keep track.

bob2356 says

OPINION opposite the editorial page. It's still opinion, which apparently everyone understands except you.

Actually, I'm the one who pointed out that it was an opinion piece, and I even tracked down the source. Just look above your comment, on this very page, if you can control your emotions long enough. That was the comment that seemed to set off your latest episode, despite the fact that it didn't even mention you.

bob2356 says

can't remember taking the MCATS (or at least claiming they took the MCATS)....

Only you ever claimed that, and at first it was only your faulty memory, but at this point it's merely a lie on your part. I don't usually call people liars, but since you fail ever to provide a link, and last time you quoted someone else, your persistence makes it obvious. What do you hope to accomplish by repeating the same lie over and over again? Are you hoping that your lie might eventually upset me? It only makes me suspect that your brain has demented so badly that you can't even think of a new lie, you have to keep repeating the same one.

bob2356 says

bullshit

In your vocabulary, that word seems to mean 'anything that upsets you, regardless of accuracy.' You retaliate, in your imaginary fight club, with whatever you can think of that might upset me - again regardless of accuracy. It's a bit sad really, like watching a washed up, punch-drunk boxer trying to throw a left hook, so feeble that it looks like slow motion. Your toxoplasmosis keeps you trolling for fights that your dementia guarantees you'll lose.

Bob, I wouldn't bother arguing with curious2. He's like a child who misbehaves in order to get attention. Sometimes it's better to ignore the behavior, because if you respond to it, you are only validating it. The best we can hope for is that he'll wear himself out and eventually go away.

Homeboy says

Sometimes it's better to ignore the behavior, because if you respond to it, you are only validating it.

Yet you persist in responding, while pretending to ignore. It's like a child saying, "I'm ignoring you." What is that supposed to accomplish, other than giving you and Bob an opportunity to reinforce your co-dependence? The irony is, since you both share the same need to fight endlessly, you'd be much happier fighting each other. But, since I challenged the Obamacare that your addictive pills depend on, you and Bob link up like Shia and Sunni joining forces against the Americans.