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bgamall4 says

Go to youtube and show me one skyscraper that ever collapsed by fire.

You cannot find one.

Go to Youtube and look at all of the buildings that collapsed after a two Jets full of fuel slammed into them. Oh that's right, it's only ever happened once! Yet there are experts out there, that know more than reality.

All the good paying jobs generated by the "Job Creators" have allowed buyers to purchase with cash. They don't need no stinkin' mortgages.
This will allow home prices to rise forever.

Guys, play nice to the couple posters providing some female perspective on this forum.

If women in history had been as left-brained logical as us guys, few of us (if any) would be here. It's bat-shit crazy to carry a 10-lb alien in the belly to term over 9months , with all the attendant danger to the carrier. Frankly I think the fetus has evolved mind control on the woman to make all the self-sacrifices, just like some cordycep fungus taking over ant hosts.

"Whore" is an emotionally loaded word for most women. While the typical woman is capable of instinctively taking advantage of help from men whenever offered or necessary in order to ensure reproductive success, if they had been coldly calculating using left brain logic, us men probably would not have a chance, simply due to the informational asymmetry regarding what got into their soft places when us manfolk are not around. It is a good thing most women think with right brain intuition, instincts and emotions.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-14/csco-crashes-10-after-hours-laying-4000-staff-sees-weak-q4

I'm sure all these people are chomping at the bit to overbid on Bay Area real estate.

How many buildings pancaked & how many were hit by planes? How many fell sideways? Sometimes I can't figure stuff out.

Facebooksux says

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-14/csco-crashes-10-after-hours-laying-4000-staff-sees-weak-q4

I'm sure all these people are chomping at the bit to overbid on Bay Area real estate.

Those poor souls need to switch working for facebook while it's still hot to keep the bidding going ;)

This thread needs a link to a great Best Of Craigslist post.

Vasectomy: $400. Speechless look on her face: priceless.
I'll try to sum up a funny story that happened a few years ago:

I got a vasectomy.

I met a girl soon afterwards. She was nice and attractive but with a selfish streak that raised a big red flag. She was 32 at the time and I could practically HEAR her biological clock ticking. Regardless, she was a good lay, easy on the eyes, and reasonably good company.

I did NOT tell her about my vasectomy and I always used a condom with her to protect against STDs. She assumed, obviously, that the condom was only used for birth control. Silly girl.

We date for a few months. I never made any move towards commitment but she brought it up ocassionally. For me, this was a casual but pleasant relationship. For her - as I was to find out - it was part of life-changing series of events that she was planning very carefully.

Four months into dating, I get the "I'm pregnant" talk. She's going on and on about how the condom must have broke and now we really need to think about getting married "for the baby". She's positively giddy. She has a baby in her and she thinks she's gonna have a good meal ticket (me) to go along with her new 7lb annuity.

At this point, I'm just as giddy. I get to pull the reverse "oops" on her. I figured that she slept with some bad boy and got knocked up. Good thing I was using condoms! Better still that I have a serious mistrust of women who can't think beyond their own uteri.

Continued:
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/274495936.html

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My own personal experience with women from my younger years is: Before the fact, women are VERY casual about birth control and VERY unconcerned with the risk of pregnancy, and VERY glib about "just" getting an abortion if there's an accident. AFTER the fact, it is like flipping a switch. The man's concerns and the woman's lack of concern is gone from memory; now it is "equal" responsibility, and by equal, I mean the woman can do and say whatever she feels like, and the man is just supposed to meekly agree- and PAY.

Funny the way women even well into their 40s can be woefully ignorant about how the menstrual cycle works! It behooves a man to keep track of his partner's cycle discreetly and avoid sex then; the phases of the moon are a great tool to help keep track. More than one woman in my past gave me an angry, "I know my body!!!!" when it was suggested that it was a risky time to have sex. Yeah, you know your body juuuust well enough to succumb to the urges to be most horny around ovulation time, because that is what worked best for all of her female ancestors all the way back to Mitochondrial Eve.

That wasn't white smoke it was dust.

It's the politics in this country, beating down the working class. Somehow it's acceptable to call men stupid, but it's not all right to generalize women that way...

I think it's because we overdid on PC that certain stupidity just became ok.

I predict that the precious metals prices will do much better than housing prices over the next year, two years and five years.

Call it Crazy, what school did you attend? .........

I'll be sure NOT to send my kids there.

This is what the separation of physical from paper looks like. The paper gold is leveraged 100-to-1. Great time to buy actual physical (in your possession) and horrible to buy the paper. The decoupling is inevitable. I never knew what it would look like. I suspect...just like this.

Ottoman, that was funny. Thank you for sharing.

Not all women are selfishly opportunistic exploitive Princesses. A lot of them are, a lot of them aren't.

I dunno about "better" odds. I've known several of those women who were loyal partners right up till the time they got their green cards. Some of them locked it in with a child for the cash flow, some not.

As prices of homes as a percentage of income has steadily grown over the past 20 years, we've seen the percentage of dual wage earning in families triple. Adjusted for inflation, however, over the past 18 years, we aren't doing so well. The following chart shows that the dual wages are now about equal with where we were in 1995 (at best):

Where is the money going to come from to pay for this rent, these mortgages? The family could buy a huge flat screen TV every month with the difference in payments by comparison. (In fact, the difference in pending health insurance payouts will buy a second flat screen every month)

Wage inflation. The pressure is overwhelming. Little 14 year old Timmy is just not going to bring enough home to pay the difference, sorry.

You housing bulls are betting on the average Joe doubling up with another family to fund this continued run. There's not a chance.

You can see it beginning as one single full-time job with benefits splinters into two or three part-time positions. Underemployment. The problem is any continuance in this direction creates exponential pressure on Federal subsidies, welfare programs, unemployment and food stamps.

The spreading lower class is a stone from which precious little blood can be squeezed.

It's clear that Europe is broke. You bulls must be putting ALL (and I mean ALL) of your bets on China.

Stock crash or drastic federal action dead ahead...before the Spring selling season. There is just nowhere for the money to come from. What else can China produce cheaply and export to us that it isn't already? All of it's rich people? As soon as they have their wealth/land in dollars, they aren't Chinese anymore.

The money comes from QE. The Treasury/FED has covered all of the bad derivative bets thus far. You think the housing correction five years ago was bad? The Fed bought up all of the bad debt obligations so that those big investments could continue gambling. If it hadn't, the prices would have been down 8o percent in California.

Can the QE continue forever at even a geometric rate of increase?

If the Fed and the wizards of Derivatives Gambling are so omniscient, why did they need the TARP bailout the first time? Can't happen again? QE goes on forever? Nope. Crash.

You just stated back to me my point, exactly. Keep the financial institutions liquid instead of what? Losing liquidity to where?

You are clueless..Bad day.

I have avoided this thread because practically everything stated here are generalizations of stupid things PEOPLE do. They are not the realm of female only or male only. Both sexes have people that can be selfish, stupid, self-centered, immoral, etc, etc. I don't know any of the type of women you are talking about. None of them are my friends. In fact, most women I know are valuable assets to their family and husband or are single women. You guys are citing the most extreme examples of bad behavior and applying it to all women in a hysterical manner. There is no logic in it. I think these strange comments reflect more about the one making the comments than anything else.

You can try a fiscal one, but I wouldn't recommend an economic pissing match.

American Woman Hollywood:

American Woman Reality:

At least they're upfront about who pulls their strings.

i heart california

MsBennet says

I have avoided this thread because practically everything stated here are generalizations of stupid things PEOPLE do. They are not the realm of female only or male only. Both sexes have people that can be selfish, stupid, self-centered, immoral, etc, etc. I don't know any of the type of women you are talking about. None of them are my friends. In fact, most women I know are valuable assets to their family and husband or are single women. You guys are citing the most extreme examples of bad behavior and applying it to all women in a hysterical manner. There is no logic in it. I think these strange comments reflect more about the one making the comments than anything else.

Yes people are people. But the laws need to change. Women are equal-agree-so act like an equal and remove the crutches of alimony. A wife married to a drunk unemployed abusive man contributes far more into the family-but gets nothing in a divorce and may even have to pay.

A wife who goes shopping all day, has servants and flies around in jets may get a billion or more-for what? If marraige ends-time to find your own way-if you fall, welcome to the world of men.

Childcare -half of basic expenses, with an equal say for the man. Change that and no one will be talking about generalities. The law now favors women ironically under the guise of equality-brilliant on the feminists part. I mean palimony???

bgamall4 says

And he is a near genius.

If he is so smart he should be able to come up with enough of his own money for investments.

Every movement is ran by someone with money. Average folk can't afford those kinds of adventures. It's fine.

The Cast of Saturday night live and a couple of political hacks over at comedy central gets a comedian elected as the president of the free world. And you guys didn't see the problem.

I don't see the problem with people understand business and world political policy host a republican luau.

It's not like Civics is taught in school and the young minds these bastards corrupt have a clue who they are even voting for.
Those with the best "Production" wins.

The kids are clueless as to what's under the hood anyway.

All's good may the best casting director win.

I didn't know that SNL & Comedy Central backed G.W.Bush. They could have simply put him in the cast.

Take Katie Kouric, SNL, and Comedy Central out of the picture, and there would be no President Obama.

But I think the kids have learned their lesson. You don't eat Sushi from a gas station and you take political advice from a Comedy TV show.

Hilbillary Clingon is going to have a hell of time selling her self to this generation. After we just spent the last 8 years convincing the Youth that all of their problems is because of the Old people.

This Hillary might have won,

but not this one

MsBennet says

I have avoided this thread because practically everything stated here are generalizations of stupid things PEOPLE do. They are not the realm of female only or male only. Both sexes have people that can be selfish, stupid, self-centered, immoral, etc, etc. I don't know any of the type of women you are talking about. None of them are my friends. In fact, most women I know are valuable assets to their family and husband or are single women. You guys are citing the most extreme examples of bad behavior and applying it to all women in a hysterical manner. There is no logic in it. I think these strange comments reflect more about the one making the comments than anything else.

Exactly. The point in the original post was that the law was also designed to protect women from the least common denominator in men, but punishes all men good or bad with the same severity.

epitaph says

the law was also designed to protect women from the least common denominator in men, but punishes all men good or bad with the same severity.

This is why I have zero tolerance for zero tolerance, such as mandatory minimum sentencing laws which take all discretionary power out of the hands of judges, or mandatory suspension for having ibuprofen in school, or the three strikes law.

My hope is that some of the angry males who have witnessed the stupidity of assembly-line justice first hand will reconsider their support for things like three strikes, but I have my doubts. Humans seem to favor one-size-fits-all justice for all demographic groups not including themselves.

To prosecute a financial crime you need a gun.

The Justice(?) Department is colluding with the criminals, and so citizens need to start plinking the criminals.

John Bailo says

2014

Train wreck for house prices.

Bonanza for buyers.

Government will essentially create a New Homestead Act by unleashing torrents of land at budget prices.

All the wrongs must be righted.

At least you are making a prediction. We'll find out by the end of 2014 who was right...

Carolyn C says

Inventory is not increasing if the homes are bought the minute they hit the market.

In our market place houses came, and went off the market in a matter of days, with escalation clauses for pricing.

You may be thinking of Months of Supply, but inventory was getting sold.

SubOink says

We'll find out by the end of 2014 who was right...

Exactly.

David Losh says

SubOink says

We'll find out by the end of 2014 who was right...

Exactly.

but will those that are wrong admit that they were wrong?

as of today, the bears of last few years have been wrong - period! If you bought a house 2009-2011, you can sell that place now for much much more. Why that is, doesn't really matter. The fact is, prices are much higher and are currently trending higher. Maybe it stops, maybe it keeps going. We will see. I am glad I bought when I bought.

Call it Crazy says

So, it only counts as inventory if the houses go unsold???

Yes, that's pretty much the definition. The "inventory" refers to inventory of houses for sale. If a house is sold, it's not counted in the inventory number.

Did you have another definition in your mind??

Removing mandated child support from unmarried men helps well-intentioned women because it forces early and honest conversations. If a man says he wants to keep the baby and wants to raise it with you then he will sign a marriage license. Women still have 100% of the choice.

(talking new births only, not retroactively)

Technically speaking, Carolyn is correct.
Inventory:
a : an itemized list of current assets: as (1) : a catalog of the property of an individual or estate (2) : a list of goods on hand

In your "200 houses" example, you would have to give a specific date/time to determine the actual inventory at any point in time. If you are calculating 'monthly inventory', you would have to subtract houses available minus houses sold for that period.

Call it Crazy says

Carolyn C says

Inventory is only increasing if homes are put on the market and no one is buying. Inventory is not increasing if the homes are bought the minute they hit the market.

Oh God.... another math major....

So, it only counts as inventory if the houses go unsold???

If 50 people put their houses on the market last month and they sold, then this month 200 people put their houses on the market and they sold, since in your world the numbers equalled out, that means that supply didn't rise this month compared to last month??

"Inventory" is what is available at any point in time.
It has nothing to do with what has already been 'sold'.

David Losh says

Carolyn C says

Inventory is not increasing if the homes are bought the minute they hit the market.

In our market place houses came, and went off the market in a matter of days, with escalation clauses for pricing.

You may be thinking of Months of Supply, but inventory was getting sold.