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edvard2 says

mell says

They are the government. The funds are taken away from the working middle class.

How so? Do you drive? If you do then you drive on roads that were funded like everything else: via taxation. That's what "governance" does. It uses public funds to build infrastructure and other elements of modern society.

The TBTF CEOs depicted in the post effectively put a gun to the politician's heads in 2008, While the economy would have healed much better in the long run compared to the clusterfuck we have now if we would have just let em fail (plus it would have been the right, lawful, non-criminal thing to do), politicians care only about being reelected in the short-term and about their campaign donations, so the bailouts were created. Effectively that makes them the government, and the money was taken from the middle class taxpayer mostly (the poor don't have anything to contribute and the wealthy were the ones being bailed out). Simple.

sbh says

No. Non-white is not a race.

I never said nonwhite is a race. I said US government policies that mention the word minority mean 'everyone but whites'. This is a fact.

A majority nonwhite country will have a different meaning of the word minority, if it's used at all. Most of the time it goes without saying that a government will do everything in its power to help the majority race since that's all there is in the country. Diversity is for previously white countries only. No one is calling for diversity in current nonwhite countries.

For instance, post apartheid South Africa has an extremely racist policy which takes rights away from the minority(whites) who are less than 15% of the population and gives explicitly gives power to the majority(blacks) who are over 80% of the population.

If the USA did this, self hating whites would be up in arms. But since blacks do it to fight white oppression, then it's OK to the self hating whites.

Personal attacks are a sign of no logical argument.

I find the label 'race realist' more accurate than 'racist'.

Race War!!!

We love it. It's exciting!

Must be in our DNA.

sbh says

You cannot survive.....and you're proud of it.

History has proven that those who are racially aware are more likely to survive than those who blindly accept strangers into their lives.

I'm not sure what 'reset the racial population distribution' means.

I think it most likely means extermination of purebred whites by either interbreeding with other races or outright conflict with nonwhites. Either way it's genocide of the white race.

I don't think either of those things are going to happen.

If the USA grows into total dysfunction with whites become less than 50% of the population, those remaining whites will create their own country apart from the diversity. They would have to for their own survival. Such a white racially homogenous country would flourish.

Without whites, the nonwhites will perish through their own ineptitude and they know it. Nonwhites want to live in a majority white nation as a permanent victim with special entitlements. Nonwhites being left to their own devices is a recipe for disaster.

foxmannumber1 says

I said US government policies that mention the word minority mean 'everyone but whites'.

Irrelevant. This thread is not about US government policies, and the proposed amendment doesn't use the word 'minority'. And Eric Alva is white.

Veteran booed out of council chambers speaks out

As a gay U.S. Marine veteran who advocated for the repeal of the military's “Don't Ask, Don't Tell” policy, Eric Alva has grown accustomed to being in the spotlight.

But the San Antonio native said he never expected the boos and hisses directed at him Wednesday night while he addressed the City Council on proposed changes to the anti-discrimination ordinances at a Citizens Heard hearing.

“I said that if this ordinance doesn't pass, I could be fired from a job and even thrown out of a restaurant, and people started to boo me,” said Alva, 42. “I was real hurt by that. It was unbelievable.”

Alva was the first American injured in the U.S. invasion of Iraq. He received a medical discharge and was awarded the Purple Heart. His prosthetic leg was visible Wednesday, under his khaki shorts. News of Alva's 3-minute speech spread via social media that night.

“To all you people that preach the word of God, shame on you, because God loves me, like the day I lay bleeding on the sands of Iraq,” Alva said to the crowd. “And that's why he saved me.”

Mayor Julián Castro's senior policy adviser reached out to Alva on Thursday, when he “wanted to see how I was doing, and even apologized, saying that the mayor was disappointed that I went through all that,” Alva said.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Veteran-booed-out-of-council-chambers-speaks-out-4739302.php

finehoe says

Irrelevant. This thread is not about US government policies, and the proposed amendment doesn't use the word 'minority'.

I don't think the first topic of this thread matters anymore.

sbh says

You are just as the Catholic church denying that the sun is the center of the solar system

I liken religious zealots to liberals denying evolution and genetic intelligence.

I don't believe in White supremacy. I do believe that whites are the well above average at whatever they try, but other races have their strong suits.

Whites are less than 10% of the world's population. Whites deserve their own racially homogenous lands. Every race does.

foxmannumber1 says

liberals denying evolution

Huh?

foxmannumber1 says

Whites are less than 10% of the world's population. Whites deserve their own
racially homogenous lands. Every race does.

There's Iceland.

finehoe says

foxmannumber1 says

liberals denying evolution

Huh?

Liberals believe in selective evolution. To put it simply, liberals believe evolution stopped at the neck. For a liberal to admit a genetic difference in intelligence drawn along racial lines is like a Christian saying that Jesus doesn't exist.

foxmannumber1 says

For a liberal to admit a genetic difference in intelligence drawn along racial lines

Anything is possible. Are there measurable differences? And how much intelligence comes from genetics and how much comes from environmental factors?

This conversation seems to be doing some "evolution" of its own: It appears to be getting even more stupid and outlandish by the second.

edvard2 says

This conversation seems to be doing some "evolution" of its own: It appears to be getting even more stupid and outlandish by the second.

Good point.

How'd we get from a "gay war" to a "race war" in such a short time?

I have no effin' clue. The level of conversation that this post devolved into is stupid.

foxmannumber1 says

Cultural bias in IQ test was proven false many decades ago.

Source?

foxmannumber1 says

An IQ test is the best measure of intelligence that the modern world has come up with.

I have heard it described as a test to measure how well a person scores on an IQ test, and while not totally separated from how intelligent they are, quite biased based on their cultural background. Let me see if I can find some references on this.

foxmannumber1 says

Once you start dealing in anecdotal evidence you ignore what matters on a large scale: the average.

Why is the average more important than the individual? On average white people aren't very good at basketball -- should they not be allowed to play? Should you consider their abilities instead of the average.

foxmannumber1 says

Opening my eyes and allow your assumptions to be challenged is literally an extreme waste of time and just creates a potential victim. All the life social interaction and life experiences a white person wants can be had from other whites. The quality of such life will be better when dealing with other whites that share common blood, history and life goals.

My frustration has turned into sympathy. Please help yourself. You only live once - you don't have to endure the pain you are imposing on yourself.

foxmannumber1 says

It's better for Whites simply to avoid the blacks altogether.

In a primal, non-thinking jungle rules way, you are probably right. Better yet, though, is to elevate to a point where we do coexist and interact so the base level prejudices are suppressed. Are we better off being physically large, aggressive and well armed in a lawless land, or less physically imposing in a civilized society? You could certainly make the argument for option A, but why would you choose it if with a little work you could have option B...?

edvard2 says

I grew up in a rural Southern area where most everyone came not only from the same part of Europe ( Scotch-Irish) but most had also lived in that same part of the rural south for sometimes centuries.

Sounds like Kentucky/West Virginia/Tennessee/North Carolina to me.

Asians seem immune to culturally biased IQ tests and white privilege in general. Perhaps asians should teach their secret to blacks and latinos.

swebb says

On average white people aren't very good at basketball -- should they not be allowed to play?

I would there is no such metric that says whites aren't very good at basketball. At the extreme end of the scale, blacks may be better than whites at basketball. I would say that the average white is just as good as the average black at basketball with the same assurance that you say whites aren't very good at basketball.

Professional sports is one of the few places where merit matters. It has been proven that those blacks at the extreme top level have more fast twitch muscles than anyone else. This is a genetic trait. It's sad that it's one of the few jobs that value performance over diversity.

swebb says

Better yet, though, is to elevate to a point where we do coexist and interact so the base level prejudices are suppressed.

Blacks have a part to play in that social contract as well as whites. Currently, and for as long as they've been "free" in the USA, blacks commit violent crime, as well as any other crime, at rates far exceeding their population percentage. In order to be treated as equal citizens, blacks must first act like decent citizens.

Until the black crime rate drops to 13% of total crime in this country I'll steer clear of blacks and recommend that others do as well.

I suggest this thread be deleted. The content being expressed here is totally inappropriate and serves no useful purpose other than to serve as a display of outright ignorance.

foxmannumber1 says

Perhaps asians should teach their secret to blacks and latinos.

But how would they grasp it, if they are inferior?

foxmannumber1 says

There are simply not many intelligent blacks in the world. The Bell Curve graph is one of the most important pieces of scientific fact from the 20th century.

foxmannumber1 says

The blacks who can benefit from high school(10% of all blacks) or college(about 2%) would be identified through a merit based screening process.

Since you like to base so much of your argument on your supposed facts about IQ, I'll just share these two observations.

1) You sound like someone with an IQ of in the low 90s at best. Please prove me wrong by sharing your IQ related accomplishments.

(although as I said earlier, the idea that a persons intelligence can be represented by a number that we can easily determine is absurd. Even if by intelligence you only meant how productively employed they could be.)

2) I've never read commentary or serious analysis that backs up your racist beliefs. A high majority of the people who do have truly high IQs by any reasonable measure, don't buy what you're selling here. Not at all.

Historically groups immigrating from Europe were "proven" to be less intelligent until later, when they were on average at a higher socio economic level, and more literate, they scored much higher.

Many understand that IQ tests are more a test of literacy than intelligence.

Also what's the stupid fear about anyway ? And all the talk of racial homogeneity. I've lived in diverse environments so much, that to tell you the truth, when I visit all white places, I get kinda creeped out. Seriously. And I am white (although half Irish, so maybe that doesn't count).

The one thing I believe about genetics is that mixing with as distant cousins as possible is good, not that I would choose a mate only on that, or even give it that high a weight. But it is the best thing to do if you're just trying to improve the gene pool. This is why there's so much talent in a tiger woods or a Barack Obama.

I have no fear of the white race shrinking. Like many here, I simply can't begin to relate to your fear or your ignorance.

marcus says

foxmannumber1 says

The Bell Curve graph is one of the most important pieces of scientific fact from the 20th century.

Let me guess. You haven't tried very hard to understand any of the significant scholarly criticism of the racial conclusions of that book.

edvard2 says

I have no effin' clue. The level of conversation that this post devolved into is stupid.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." -- John Stuart Mill