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Send me a free copy and I'll read it.

bgamall4 says

SoftShell says

So if you wrote an e-book about it, it must be true.

Are you a neocon Softbrain, I mean Softshell? Read it you idiot.

Actually I'm a NeoLib....does that disqualify me??

bgamall4 says

SoftShell says

Send me a free copy and I'll read it.

Sure. Give me your email. But let me know if you are a neocon first.

Which end do you stick it in??

bgamall4 says

They adopted the YINON militant Zionist view

Yes, I noticed that. When he does not have an answer for something, he refers to his 'e-book bible', creating a situation where one would want to purchase it and read it to verify his claims, all the while he sits there cackling while enriching himself at the expense of the patnet crew...

Straw Man says

SoftShell says

Actually I'm a NeoLib....does that disqualify me??

Gary has ran out of his (very limited) knowledge on geography and military matters so the only fall back for him is to start name-calling campaign. I bet he couldn't even define "neocon".

Lot's of money out there sloshing around from one "hot" asset class to the next.

And absolutely no productive work is done.

Between what parties?

bgamall4 says

Sorry, it was just reported that Russia is sending warships. There will be a major conflict if Obama does this.

It's just me, but I don't think houses and gold are the same asset class.

SoftShell says

I can see this as a component of their long term strategy.

Robert Sproul says

Meanwhile Moscow, Beijing, and Tehran, contemplate a future where "Western special interests can invade with impunity, WITHOUT PUBLIC SUPPORT, or even the tenuous semblance of justification being necessary."

Ah...The old Insane Terrorist State Strategy
Clever

Uhh. I'm agreeing with you....WTF??

Robert Sproul says

SoftShell says

I can see this as a component of their long term strategy.

Robert Sproul says

Meanwhile Moscow, Beijing, and Tehran, contemplate a future where "Western special interests can invade with impunity, WITHOUT PUBLIC SUPPORT, or even the tenuous semblance of justification being necessary."

Ah...The old Insane Terrorist State Strategy

Clever

btw, take a look at Yahoo news from 1/30 of this year:

http://in.news.yahoo.com/us-backed-plan-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-045648224.html

"As per the scheme 'Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons,' the Daily Mail reports."

We should all write our legislatures and demand that they legislate that men pay the same lower auto insurance rates that women do.

Straw Man says

So UK is out. Isn't it funny when monarchy asks their legislature for permission to go to war while republic doesn't even bother? Who really has a king now?

That's not exactly how it works.

Straw Man says

Bigsby says

That's not exactly how it works.

Still ironic as hell.

I don't think it's ironic. The UK isn't a monarchy. It has a monarchy. We have an old democratic system. It did its job. I suppose it's more interesting how little power the US president has to push forward legislation but how much power he has to drop bombs.

The monarch does what parliament (or the PM) tells it to. The monarch is the official announcer for the party in power under certain circumstances because that aspect of tradition hasn't been done away with, but to say that the monarch has the power to declare war (and peace) is simply you taking a wikipedia entry as a reality when the simple fact is that parliament makes those decisions and the monarch makes the announcement. If that is what you think constitutes 'the power', then fine.

Why not just outsource all of the Industrial Military Complex to China...no more $1000 hammers & $3000 toliet seats...we could get a whole tank for $50,000 & can hire Chinese peasant mercenaries for $1000 per month .....I'm getting giddy thinking of all the saved tax dollars.....come on Republicans--you know you wanna do it.....hire the Chinese for pennies on the dolla

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

The monarch does what parliament (or the PM) tells it to.

That is BS. Did you know that the Square Mile does not answer to the Parliament? Did you know that when the Queen goes into the Square Mile she bows to the Lord Mayor? Did you know that Gog and Magog, two statues of Roman soldiers, guard the Square Mile and that the Square Mile fancies itself the rebirth of the Roman Empire?

Bet you didn't know that Bigsby. Did you know they are all going to hell?

Are you completely mental? Lord, you come up with some utterly irrelevant (not to mention stupid) crap. I said the Queen doesn't make any political decisions because, er, she doesn't. And did you know I am English? I am aware of the very long history of the City of London, and its unusual privileges through the exercise of its power and wealth over that period. That doesn't mean it doesn't answer to parliament, though I suppose it depends on what you think you mean by that. And I also know what Qatar is.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Proving your position? PROVING? Bloody hell. I guess when David Icke opened his mouth and highlighted his mental breakdown on national TV by babbling about a reptilian conspiracy (or whatever nonsense it has now transformed to) that you took that as proof as well.

So you don't think that Israeli militant Zionists want a Greater Israel?

I know you don't think the neocons who want a Greater Israel did 9/11. But you are wrong there. Want to go for two wrongs?

You want a coherent argument. It doesn't mean you're going to produce one.

Hey - only military spending creates jobs.

The only concern about this plan is whether there is such a thing as too much economic growth!

The judgment level for starting wars couldn't get any worse.

Artistotle suggests that a tyrant rises to power by first demonstrating that he is a man of the people:

“He ought to show himself to his subjects in the light, not of a tyrant, but of a steward and a king.”

and

“He should be moderate, not extravagant in his way of life; he should win the notables by companionship, and the multitude by flattery.”

But once in power, a tyrant uses all available means to hold on to power, including spying on his people:

“A tyrant should also endeavor to know what each of his subjects says or does, and should employ spies . . . and . . . eavesdroppers . . . [T]he fear of informers prevents people from speaking their minds, and if they do, they are more easily found out.”

(Anybody have any ideas who this might describe today ?)

Someone is wrong on the internet!!!!

He thought he was playing to his townhall comedy tour audience when he said, that there was a red line that Syria must not cross.
He could have sworn that he was going to Kill with that bit.

It got loads of laughs in the Chicago community leader theater.

Yeah funtimes funtimes.

Isn't that an english sexual lubricant?

Bigsby says

And I also know what Qatar is.

bgamall4 says

The City has resisted all efforts at democratisation for more than 1,000 years, through lobbying, bribery and threats. Post War Labour Prime Minister Clement Atlee, father of the Welfare State, said “”over and over again we have seen that there is in this country another power than that which has its seat at Westminster.” But neither Atlee nor any subsequent government have laid a single glove on this corrupt protectorate, quite the opposite. Until shortly before 1997, removing the Remembrancer was a Labour Party pledge – then even that paltry, unmet promise disappeared.

http://scriptonitedaily.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/the-unelected-banker-sitting-in-our-parliament-to-make-life-easier-for-banks/

I guess only Brits don't know that the Square Mile is unruled by Parliament. It answers to the Queen, or some say, vice versa.

The City of London has a mountain of anachronistic quirks that have developed over many centuries. Why is that so surprising? It predates the creation of the country itself. That doesn't mean it doesn't answer to parliament, but hey perhaps you'd care to clarify what you mean by that because the City of London isn't the vatican. It is part of the UK and parliament legislates on the laws of the land. And FFS, the Remembrancer is just an historical carry over that has (wrongly) not been removed. Exactly what influence do you think that position has? The position is the world's oldest lobbyist if that makes you happy, but what do you think the position can do that any big business wouldn't be able to do? It's the peddling of influence not some grand bloody conspiracy.

I imagine you have been lapping up more of your conspiracy website guff once the City of London was mentioned and you now (like everything else you comment on) think you are an expert despite only reading a very slanted perspective of the actual situation. Unusual electoral practices in the City for its local government (companies having votes for instance) are hardly that surprising given that only 11,000 people actually live there and so many commute in daily (300,000). If you think that means parliament has no legislative power over the people and businesses that are there, then you are conflating some rather distinct issues.

egads101 says

So, how will "other house buyers be screwed" if they only let prices go up 10% more?

They'll be fine if they sell before the institutions. If they sell after...that doesn't seem so good.

Say hey! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here:

Elaboration: http://www.showrealhist.com/RHandRD.html

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden!

egads101 says

the oracle can show you the mistake in your thinking. the investors will sell at a certain price, but no lower. While that may someday limit home price increases beyond that amount, it won't lower them below today's amount.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_key

Why would investment portfolios only sell if they get the price they paid or more for real estate? Past history does not guarantee that. There are many reasons that investors get out for less than what they paid....it is the individuals who lives in a home that has more reasons to hold on. Or the small investor that has one or two homes.

So I am not that convinced that investors only sell for a profit...especially real estate which has built in expenses such as taxes and insurance, etc....so I am not as sure as you....just lived too long to see that history tends to repeat itself....

1. quig

a quig is a long haired frail creature with human like characteristics,yet more primative.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Or maybe the rebels did it. That is precisely why there shouldn't be a rush to judgement and the UN should be fully involved this time.

I agree.

Agree with what?

OK, that's what Americans think:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/08/30/poll-shows-unease-over-potential-u-s-attack-on-syria/

and that's what John Kerry says:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323324904579045072997133480.html
"None of the actual evidence was released."

Note, it's just a repetition of infamous WMD of Iraq. I believe that some evidences would be released would they exist. The only reason not to release them is the message that the Empire wants to send to the World: I own you, when I want to attack you I need no reason, my wish is the reason.

The question is: why now? Here we may only guess, but i think it's related to Snowden case. US government was badly humiliated in this case. Partly it humiliated itself, like with Evo Morales' plane grounding or 35 years sentence to Manning, but partially the humiliation came from Russia and personally Putin. So attacking Syria is a way to show Putin who is the Emperor and who is just a local satrap.

bgamall4, the Greater Israel dream -- or Israel from Nilus to Euphrates -- is just that: a dream, I don't think it influences this current decision, no matter what some neo-con or neo-lib zionists may think about it. I'm not even sure the state of Israel really wants Asad regime fall. They know what a chaos with the rise of strong Islamists paramilitary forces will follow such a fall. They tried it in Lebanon and were defeated there.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/08/syrian-rebels-claim-responsibility-for-chemical-weapons-attack-say-they-were-supplied-by-saudi-arabia-2751056.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=feed

Sorry, but it has...one example, during the Great Depression, when folks needed cash they sold what they had for whatever they could get. It is not the same exact situation, it is the fundamentals that repeat. Same holds true for a stock market crash...an event happens that no one expects, and cash is needed, so people sell for whatever they can get before they cannot sell at all or for a lot less and take a loss. If you are looking for an exact example with every detail the same, you will not find that in history....it is an understanding of human nature....by the way, I do not care to argue or counter. I come to this site to read, learn and for a good discussion. You may be right, but I place my decisions on past history and so far so good. ...I wish you the best in your decisions as well.

"Vetted by the banks"

The same banks that roberto always claimed were so effing stupid

LOL

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999:

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
(Recent Dow day is Friday, August 30, 2013 __ Level is 94.6)

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes indeed, go here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

Yes, gsr, that's getting really interesting.

And according to this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html

Prince Bangar actually proposed to Putin creating a world oil cartel, if Putin gives up supporting Assad.

I lol at you for being a giant jack ass

None of this matters because the new economy states that when one bubble bursts another one will simply be inflated.

You can't predict in what form the bubble will be, but for damn sure there will be one.

Housing will never go down.

sbh says

Not by humans, no; but by capital, the stored labor of humans

Whose stored labor? Why do so many trust fund babies have so much capital without working, while Ms. Hernandez keeps mopping those floors and wiping the windows has no capital?

egads101 says

Most of the Dow stock companies from 1890 aren't even around any more. They change which companies are in the index...

So, your graph means nothing, like this thread.

Perception and non perception are both merely illusions.

You are questioning the relevance of the Dow. Are you perhaps doing this just because the inflation-adjusted Dow does well-show to the people their serial herd behavior?

DO NOTE the substantial similarity of the Real S&P (by Robert Shiller):
http://www.econ.yale.edu/~shiller/data/ie_data.xls