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Let gas go up to Euro levels, have consumption taxes, curtain liberal arts studies, cut tuition for science degrees by 25%, cut subsidies of Gas and Oil by 50%, provide $3000/worker tax credit in US manufacturing, cap lawyers pay at $225/hour.

Entitlemented says

Let gas go up to Euro levels, have consumption taxes, curtain liberal arts studies, cut tuition for science degrees by 25%, cut subsidies of Gas and Oil by 50%, provide $3000/worker tax credit in US manufacturing, cap lawyers pay at $225/hour.

Gas should be expensive as we're running out of fossil fuels and rising prices as supply decrease is the free market's way of incentive's people to develop alternative energy sources and transportation mechanisms. But hey, if you don't believe in the free market...

There is no social justification for subsidizing big oil, one of the most profitable and destructive industries in history. They cost shift by polluting, which is simply a form of theft. They cause us to fight expensive wars. And they inhibit alternative transportation and energy source development. Big oil is bad for our economy, our environment, and our national security.

Dan8267 says

There is no social justification for subsidizing big oil, one of the most profitable and destructive industries in history.

subsidies.. as in cash given to big oil... there is none! once again the lefties call depletion accounting as subsidies.. the same so called subsides (oil depletion in accounting) is similar to forest and wood industries accounting.

Dan8267 says

They cause us to fight expensive wars. And they inhibit alternative transportation and energy source development. Big oil is bad for our economy, our environment, and our national security.

Here we go again... blame the US govt for all the worlds ills. No Nazis, Communists or Islam-facists be involved. How about the Narco-terrorists.. wanna blame the US govt on that.. as you take another hit off your bong!

thomaswong.1986 says

Dan8267 says

There is no social justification for subsidizing big oil, one of the most profitable and destructive industries in history.

subsidies.. as in cash given to big oil... there is none! once again the lefties call depletion accounting as subsidies.. the same so called subsides (oil depletion in accounting) is similar to forest and wood industries accounting.

http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/10/24/1064231/three-ways-big-oil-spends-its-profits-to-defend-oil-subsidies-and-defeat-clean-energy/

http://news.yahoo.com/history-u-oil-subsidies-back-nearly-century-215500548.html

When the study adjusted for inflation to 2009 dollars, the oil and gas industry received subsidies amounting to $1.8 billion per year in the first 15 years of the fledgling industry. The American Coalition for Ethanol estimates that when combined with state and local government aid to large oil companies, subsidies amount to anywhere from $133.8 billion to $280.8 billion annually from all sources of taxpayer aid that goes to the oil and gas industry.

Read articles for more details.

thomaswong.1986 says

Here we go again... blame the US govt for all the worlds ills. No Nazis, Communists or Islam-facists be involved. How about the Narco-terrorists.. wanna blame the US govt on that.. as you take another hit off your bong!

We won WWII almost 70 years ago. We won the cold war 20 years ago. The present wars have nothing to do with defending our land or our people. They are simply profit centers for various war profiteering corporations and oil companies.

Furthermore, isn't it you Republican nuts who always says that big government is bad, government can't do anything right, and starve the beast? What hypocrisy!

Finally, I have never smoked marijuana in my live. The fact that you concluded that I have shows how little basis your statements have in reality.

Dan8267 says

Read articles for more details.

I will ask again.. WHAT subsidies !... you like so many lefties call Depletion accounting a handout... so laughable to even think of it as a Handout by the govt.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2013/01/02/oil-gas-tax-provisions-are-not-subsidies-for-big-oil/

Oil & Gas Tax Provisions Are Not Subsidies For "Big Oil"
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Unfortunately, most media outlets and reporters have chosen to basically repeat the Administration’s mantra that these tax treatments – several of which have been in the tax code for almost a century – are somehow unique, specific to the oil and gas industry, and are “subsidies” for “big oil”. A great example of just how inaccurate this depiction is applies to Percentage Depletion, which has been a feature of the tax code since 1913, meaning it will be a full century old this year.
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Finally, let’s talk about Intangible Drilling Costs (IDCs), another feature of the federal tax code that will enjoy its’ 100th birthday in 2013. Basically, IDCs are the costs incurred by the oil and gas industry in the drilling of its wells. Since drilling wells is the only means of finding oil and natural gas, IDCs essentially amount to what any other industry would be able to deduct as a part of its cost of goods sold, a concept of accounting and tax law as old as the tax code itself.

Dan8267 says

Finally, I have never smoked marijuana in my live. The fact that you concluded that I have shows how little basis your statements have in reality.

oh you certainly are smoking something or snorting some powder.. fried your brain.

Dan8267 says

They are simply profit centers for various war profiteering corporations and oil companies.

the same rantings you heard during WW1-2, Korean, Vietnam war, Coldwar and many others. If you cant stand the firefight.. then get the hell out of the way ...

but its just the political nonsense..

And let's not forget that everyday Obama does not repeal the CFMA the more this all becomes his fault.

thomaswong.1986 says

Oil & Gas Tax Provisions Are Not Subsidies For "Big Oil"

Says you and people who want big oil to get bigger.

The fact is that giving a person $10,000 tax-free and reducing that person's tax bill by $10,000 is mathematically equivalent. The same is true for giving a small group of companies $10 billion tax free and reducing their tax burdens by $10 billion. Mathematically the exact same thing.

CaptainShuddup says

And let's not forget that everyday Obama does not repeal the CFMA the more this all becomes his fault.

Yes Obama is an oil whore, just like Bush. Another way they are the same.

Dan8267 says

Yes Obama is an oil whore, just like Bush. Another way they are the same.

It's never even been on his scope of shit "I promise to do"

I'm surprised that his supporters didn't or weren't more vocal about all of the ills that they know Obama could have/should have handled better, before they reelected him.

I saw a bumper sticker the other day, that sums up both Bush and Obama supporters.

"Only Fools reelect Fools"

thomaswong.1986 says

Dan8267 says

They cause us to fight expensive wars. And they inhibit alternative transportation and energy source development. Big oil is bad for our economy, our environment, and our national security.

Here we go again... blame the US govt for all the worlds ills. No Nazis, Communists or Islam-facists be involved. How about the Narco-terrorists.. wanna blame the US govt on that.. as you take another hit off your bong!

So you are saying the US is so involved militarily in the middle east because we like sand dunes and it has nothing to do with oil?

One BIG difference is that corporate tax credits create JOBS which result in money to go all around from taxes to the government to money spent in retail and wholesale which also creates jobs.

EInvestor says

One BIG difference is that corporate tax credits create JOBS which result in money to go all around from taxes to the government to money spent in retail and wholesale which also creates jobs.

It depends. if you give a corporation a tax credits to ship jobs overseas, yeah the corporation will create a job-overseas.

thomaswong.1986 says

How about the Narco-terrorists

Yup defnitely. If drugs were legal and there is no war on drugs, we won't have any narco-terrorists.

CaptainShuddup says

"Only Fools reelect Fools"

The problem is Wolf's Dilemma.

lostand confused says

Yup defnitely. If drugs were legal and there is no war on drugs, we won't have any narco-terrorists.

result is a nation full of addicts. just look at what happened to NYC by the late 70s.

drug addicts, violence, AIDS, corruptions, and general decay and finally bankruptcy... yep..legalize it.

lostand confused says

It depends. if you give a corporation a tax credits to ship jobs overseas, yeah the corporation will create a job-overseas.

what tax credit ? .. the journalists who write this shit up have no fucking clue what they are saying... they are also worthless Demo party talking points.

yes.. we need mfg back in US.. but we also need teams of employees overseas who actually sell our products... Sales, marketing, G/A to support the legal operations...

its no different than the foreign company sales force you work with every day..

Buy a Toyota, BMW, Benz, or Volvo lately...

Are you going to disallow the expenses incurred by US companies to sell and support US products sold overseas ?

bob2356 says

So you are saying the US is so involved militarily in the middle east because we like sand dunes and it has nothing to do with oil?

we did not start the 3 major wars with Israel. the arabs did...
we did not start an oil embargo ... the arabs did...
the arabs have been pursuing nuclear weapons
to kill millions of people in the region, mainly Israel and any allies.

The Middle East problem is everybody's fault:

It's the fault of Muslims for having an irrational hatred of Jews.

It's the fault of Israel for expanding its borders.

It's the fault of Europe for dumping all their Jewish population in the Middle East and redrawing borders after WWII without thinking about all the complexities and consequences rather than dealing with their guilt of the holocaust and reintegrating the populations into Europe.

It's the fault of the United States for using its military might to secure profits for big oil by exploiting Arab nations and killing innocent men, women, and children there.

There's plenty of blame to go around. It is childish to assume that only one side (the other side) is wrong. Atrocities have been committed by all sides. But the bottom line is this shit needs to stop and the best country, whatever that is, should lead the way by example.

Dan8267 says

It's the fault of the United States for using its military might to secure profits for big oil by exploiting Arab nations

the Saudis im sure are laughing calling it exploitation... since they are more wealthier nations than most. If we have so much power... surely we could have destroyed OPEC by now... so how do you explain the OPEC monopoly..

Dan8267 says

It's the fault of the United States for using its military might to secure profits for big oil by exploiting Arab nations and killing innocent men, women, and children there.

idiotic... to say the least!

With all due respect, Persians aren't arab and arabs aren't hardworking enough in STEM majors to pursue it on their own. The US will never let it fall into 'Arab Hands'. Also, Pakistanis are not arab, nor are Indians.

thomaswong.1986 says

bob2356 says

So you are saying the US is so involved militarily in the middle east because we like sand dunes and it has nothing to do with oil?

we did not start the 3 major wars with Israel. the arabs did...

we did not start an oil embargo ... the arabs did...

the arabs have been pursuing nuclear weapons

to kill millions of people in the region, mainly Israel and any allies.

thomaswong.1986 says

idiotic... to say the least!

Spoken like a true ugly American.

There is nothing patriotic about taking the childish and irrational position that your own country is the one and only country in all of human history that has done no wrong. Failing to acknowledge the truth only serves to further harm you country by allowing it to repeat its mistakes. As such, blind flag waving is the least patriotic thing one can do.

Iraqi Girl Raped and killed by US soldiers
They raped her, killed her and her entire family, and burned them all.
http://www.aCzLN61RoOQ

US Marines defile dead Afghans on camera
You know, because that's not going to cause Arabs to hate Americans.
http://www.a4UPPaHbhkY

For those asses who claim that no RT News footage can be considered.
http://www.Y7PHOa8eBrU

Female US soldier brutally killed/raped by US soldiers in Iraq
http://www.di6bKFNGGxg

American soldier shoots little girl in the head
http://www.-PHxh-ANwUM

If you're not disgusted by each of these videos, you are a bad human being.