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Bellingham Bill says

yeah, I can compete with 2.5 billion Chinese & Indians for all these wonderful tech jobs . . .

Aren't we competing with them whether they come here or not?

Look at it this way: it's easier to compete with them once they have to buy a house in the US, send their kids to US school, and pay a US health insurance.

Wonderful and you wonder why despite all his failings, why Obama is still popular.

He is right on to demand speedier legal immigration. The fact that it takes longer to immigrate legally than illegally is a testimony to how fucked up this system is. Fine if you want to lower overall total immigration and/or make the total wait time longer, then do so for all, but don't let illegals come in and provide amnesty via green cards and path to citizenship as early as 3-5 years while legal skilled immigrants wait 10+ years. And don't give me that crap that illegals run the economy, there are enough unqualified Americans to fill these jobs who could not succeed in higher skilled jobs. The high-skilled visa workers pay taxes while they are not entitled to UE, plus they pay lots of fees on their path to the greencard to the DHS, labor department, lawyers etc., certainly beats providing welfare and other government benefits to illegals from a purely US-centric financial perspective.

mell says

And don't give me that crap that illegals run the economy, there are enough unqualified Americans to fill these jobs who could not succeed in higher skilled jobs.

Really ?

"How Alabama’s immigration law is crippling its farms"

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-11-03/opinions/35284468_1_illegal-immigrants-immigration-status-immigration-law

mell says

Fine if you want to lower overall total immigration and/or make the total wait time longer, then do so for all, but don't let illegals come in

yeah, my position is if you hire an illegal alien, they get your citizenship and you get theirs.

Bellingham Bill says

mell says

Fine if you want to lower overall total immigration and/or make the total wait time longer, then do so for all, but don't let illegals come in

yeah, my position is if you hire an illegal alien, they get your citizenship and you get theirs.

That sounds like an interesting deal - maybe you should start a petition, it might get some momentum on patnet alone!

marcus says

mell says

And don't give me that crap that illegals run the economy, there are enough unqualified Americans to fill these jobs who could not succeed in higher skilled jobs.

Really ?

"How Alabama’s immigration law is crippling its farms"

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-11-03/opinions/35284468_1_illegal-immigrants-immigration-status-immigration-law

Well, maybe they'll have to start offering higher wages, just because labor is not highly skilled it can still be hard and physically intensive and may deserve higher pay. Add some "incentives" like cutting UE if not looking/taking open jobs and enough Americans will turn up to fill those positions - unemployment is still very high.

....and let's not forget when Obama was lying to the voters that the GOP would take $$ away from Medicare, while Obama actually stole 760+ Billion from Medicare to fund this train-wreck called Obamacare. Stealing 760+ Billion that your parents paid a lifetime into, only to be wasted on illegal bums who crossed our borders the last few years. That's example 30583673 of Obama's arrogance (and those that still believe that he's actually a decent person and president)...

Amnesty I was done by Reagan.
Amnesty II is being considered. The republicans pound of flesh to support this is to allow 350k H1Bs and to allow companies to hire them more easily, without having to prove that they tried to hire an American.

You are mad at Obama???