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The Verdict In The George Zimmerman Case
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2013 Jul 14, 12:28am 34,711 views 201 comments
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Y
2013 Jul 15, 2:51pm
You just nailed most of Marcus's posts.
I do understand that sometimes people act in ways that don't make sense,
Y
2013 Jul 15, 2:54pm
Interesting angle, until you realize zimmerman was getting the shit beat out of him.
If Martin was scared of the gun, the screaming would have sounded something like "He's got a gun!", not what we heard.
Men don't scream when they are fighting. I have seen too many fights.
Martin must have been scared of the gun.
Y
2013 Jul 15, 2:57pm
What 'murderer'?
The murderer claims in his defense that Travon started the fight.
Why would Zimmerman scream for help as he is shooting the guy?
Answer that one.
And Zimmerman was not getting the shit beat out of him.
Interesting angle, until you realize zimmerman was getting the shit beat out of him.
If Martin was scared of the gun, the screaming would have sounded something like "He's got a gun!", not what we heard.
Men don't scream when they are fighting. I have seen too many fights.
Martin must have been scared of the gun.
Y
2013 Jul 15, 3:00pm
He wouldn't.
There was no screaming at the time of the gunshot, and afterwards.
You obviously did not pay attention to the 911 call with the screams and gunshot.
StillLooking says
Why would Zimmerman scream for help as he is shooting the guy?
I just listened to it. There was screaming up until the shot was fired.
He wouldn't.
There was no screaming at the time of the gunshot, and afterwards.
You obviously did not pay attention to the 911 call with the screams and gunshot.
Why would Zimmerman scream for help as he is shooting the guy?
Y
2013 Jul 15, 3:02pm
Rain, coupled with poor police evidence collection.
Zim claimed a struggle over the gun? This proves Martin was screaming.
Yes, but none of TM's DNA was anywhere near the gun or holster.
Y
2013 Jul 15, 3:03pm
Link, please.
I just listened to it. There was screaming up until the shot was fired.
Y
2013 Jul 15, 3:05pm
You might be right. Sometimes the aggressor is the one screaming...
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/15/Witness-Baltimore-blacks-beating
So TM was screaming while he was on top of GZ beating the shit out of him...
men don't scream when they get beat up.
The aggressor actually might yell but not help.
You might be right. Sometimes the aggressor is the one screaming...
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/15/Witness-Baltimore-blacks-beating
So TM was screaming while he was on top of GZ beating the shit out of him...
men don't scream when they get beat up.
Y
2013 Jul 15, 3:09pm
Why not? You don't think that men can scream?
http://www.youtube.com/embed/u2ni6jGuN70?
men don't scream when they get beat up.
I have never seen a man scream during a fight. It is not likely
Why not? You don't think that men can scream?
?
men don't scream when they get beat up.
leo707
2013 Jul 15, 3:13pm
Rain, coupled with poor police evidence collection.
Zim claimed a struggle over the gun? This proves Martin was screaming.
Yes, but none of TM's DNA was anywhere near the gun or holster.
Still = no evidence for a struggle for the gun.
leo707
2013 Jul 15, 3:19pm
Goodnight, I am sure that tomorrow we will solve this case to everyone's satisfaction and agreement -- or maybe sometime next month. Keep up the good sleuthing!
Now, I just hope that all the helicopters flying overhead don't wake my kids.
Then why was Martin yelling for help up until he got shot.
And why would Zimmerman yell for help while he is shooting the guy?
marcus
2013 Jul 15, 4:03pm
You are racist. Why?
If you aren't the nitwit you obviously require everyone to believe you are, then please clearly explain what I have said that makes me a racist. Please explain it in detail, if you can. I say you can not.
Is it that deep down you know that it's your racism that makes you think it's just fine that Zimmerman thought Martin was an asshole that was getting away (because he was a black teenager) and therefore stalked him, provoked a fight and then shot and killed him ?
Also, as a side question, just out of curiosity, are you like Zimmerman, the kind of pussy that would end a fist fight that you provoked and you were losing by shooting the other guy dead ?
I'm not asking you if it's your right. I'm asking you if you are that much of a pussy.
Goran_K
2013 Jul 15, 5:00pm
If this was the case it would have been in his statement.
Umm it was in his statement. He said he was looking for a street or number so he could tell the police where he last saw him (Trayvon).
Goran_K
2013 Jul 15, 5:01pm
despite the fact Travon tried to lose him and get away
Speculation. In fact Trayvon's behavior says otherwise.
Goran_K
2013 Jul 15, 5:03pm
Sure, if that is the way it went down. We still only have Zim's questionable word to confirm that story.
It's getting pretty narrow though. Eye witness sees Trayvon on top punching like an animal. He doesn't stop even when told the cops are coming.
There aren't very many ways it can play out after that point...
leo707
2013 Jul 15, 5:53pm
If this was the case it would have been in his statement.
Umm it was in his statement. He said he was looking for a street or number so he could tell the police where he last saw him (Trayvon).
Right...he was looking for the street address in the path that split the backyards of the buildings...
leo707
2013 Jul 15, 5:54pm
despite the fact Travon tried to lose him and get away
Speculation. In fact Trayvon's behavior says otherwise.
No speculation here. Both Zimmerman's 911 call and TM's girlfriend agree that at one point TM tried to run or walk quickly away from Zimmerman.
What happened after that, who knows.
Goran_K
2013 Jul 15, 6:29pm
You mean Trayvon's girlfriend who admitted to lying about what exactly happened because "she wanted to appease Trayvon's mom" who was sitting next to her?
Hmmmmmm.
leo707
2013 Jul 15, 6:37pm
You mean Trayvon's girlfriend who admitted to lying about what exactly happened because "she wanted to appease Trayvon's mom" who was sitting next to her?
Hmmmmmm.
Yeah, she -- like Zim -- is mostly full of shit, but where her and Zim agree I think they are telling the truth.
HydroCabron
2013 Jul 15, 10:40pm
APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says
And why would Zimmerman yell for help while he is shooting the guy?
Because he wasn't yelling for help. He was screaming in ecstasy becuase it's such a rush to kill an unarmed negro while you're shouting, "DIE DIE DIE MOTHERFUCKING DIE, MOTHERFUCKER!"
Probably played out the scenario in front of his bedroom mirror 100,000 times before he actually got a chance to do it for real.
More self-hating white guilt. Why do you hate Jesus?
Y
2013 Jul 15, 11:39pm
Not necessarily.
Maybe the aggressor wanted more people on top to beat the shit out of GZ even more. So he needed 'help'.
The aggressor actually might yell but not help.
You might be right. Sometimes the aggressor is the one screaming...
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/15/Witness-Baltimore-blacks-beating
So TM was screaming while he was on top of GZ beating the shit out of him...
men don't scream when they get beat up.
Y
2013 Jul 15, 11:39pm
Oh great. A sampling of 1 to set the precedent.
I have never seen a man scream during a fight. It is not likely
Why not? You don't think that men can scream?
?
men don't scream when they get beat up.
Y
2013 Jul 15, 11:40pm
Agreed.
Rain, coupled with poor police evidence collection.
Zim claimed a struggle over the gun? This proves Martin was screaming.
Yes, but none of TM's DNA was anywhere near the gun or holster.
Still = no evidence for a struggle for the gun.
Y
2013 Jul 15, 11:42pm
He wasn't.
You still have not provided the link showing the scream for 'help' and the gunshot simultaneously.
And why would Zimmerman yell for help while he is shooting the guy?
Y
2013 Jul 15, 11:56pm
Both calls were made by proven liars. So I think the speculation is alive and well as to whether TM tried to "run away". Buffering this position is that TM had 4 minutes to cover 40-50 yards, and be safely in his fathers girlfriends house. He chose not to use that time wisely. That sure does not sound like TM tried to get away.
So you have two phone calls by proven liars indicating TM was "running" or "trying to get away", versus a 4 minute gap where TM could have crawled and gotten to his fathers girlfriends house safely, which for some reason he chose not to do. Which is more believable?
No speculation here. Both Zimmerman's 911 call and TM's girlfriend agree that at one point TM tried to run or walk quickly away from Zimmerman.
Y
2013 Jul 15, 11:57pm
Rachel is just not credible. I take her phone call testimony with a grain of salt.
You mean Trayvon's girlfriend who admitted to lying about what exactly happened because "she wanted to appease Trayvon's mom" who was sitting next to her?
Hmmmmmm.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Jul 16, 12:58am
men don't scream when they get beat up.
My oldest brother was as huge as WWF wrestling star, he was grown and out of the house when we were kids. We used to bust his balls, because when me and my other two brothers would jump on him when we would play wrestle, he would scream in a high pitched voice, much like the voice on that tape. He would then kick our asses for poking fun at him.
HydroCabron
2013 Jul 16, 1:11am
Everyone agrees that we don't know much about what happened, because essentially the only two who do are Zimmerman and Martin, with Martin dead.
Except, of course, we know the following for sure:
1) Martin was minding his own business, reading the Bible in his vehicle, as so many of us do in the evening.
2) Out of the corner of his eye, just above the framed photo of Ronald Reagan on his dashboard, he sees a young black man, clearly high on Crink -- the new meth/PCP/THC/Skittles concoction that these young bucks are going berzerk and doing crimes on -- brachiating down the sidewalk.
3) Concerned for said black man's safety, Zimmerman drives after him, stopping and offering to drive him to the hospital, just as he would have done for a white kid in the same situation.
4) The black man, out of his mind with criminality and drugs, physically yanks Zimmerman from the car, beats him and, finding a gun in Zimmerman's waistband, presses it into Zimmerman's hand and commits suicide by forcing Zimmerman's finger to the trigger. This is in keeping with direct instructions from President Obama. In the background, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson swill Night Train and cackle with glee.
5) All witnesses lending credence to the portrait of Zimmerman as a saintly concerned citizen are believable. All witnesses casting doubt on this theory are proven liars and unreliable.
6) A non-black man having a gun is a sign of good character and patriotism. A black man having a gun is a sign that he is a criminal.
7) We're not racist, so stop saying that. Calling someone racist is the lowest and cheapest way out of an argument. By the way: you're racist.
Still, we don't really know much about what exactly transpired, so it's all speculative, but we are right about all the details of what went down that night.
Play wrestle is not a fight. Men don't scream when getting beat.
men don't scream when they get beat up.
My oldest brother was as huge as WWF wrestling star, he was grown and out of the house when we were kids. We used to bust his balls, because when me and my other two brothers would jump on him when we would play wrestle, he would scream in a high pitched voice, much like the voice on that tape. He would then kick our asses for poking fun at him.
Have you ever heard of GOOGLE?
He wasn't.
You still have not provided the link showing the scream for 'help' and the gunshot simultaneously.
And why would Zimmerman yell for help while he is shooting the guy?
Y
2013 Jul 16, 3:03am
So you don't have any proof.
Thanks for the clarification.
Have you ever heard of GOOGLE?
He wasn't.
You still have not provided the link showing the scream for 'help' and the gunshot simultaneously.
And why would Zimmerman yell for help while he is shooting the guy?
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I felt sad when I saw the verdict in the George Zimmerman case. I shall speak now as one who attended law school but did not graduate. In almost any legal jurisdiction in the world, if someone shoots an unarmed person, even if that person is a policeman or soldier, the person doing the shooting is in serious trouble. A conviction for manslaughter often follows and one is sent away to jail for some time. I honestly felt that Zimmerman was guilty of terrible bad judgment and such a verdict was warranted.
I feel that the way Florida wrote its definition of self defense tied the hands of the jury and left them with no option but to find Zimmerman not guilty.
This is a sad case where everyone including the taxpayers of the state of Florida lost "big time."
My father had some words of wisdom that apply here as follows: "Son a gun will get you into more trouble than it will ever get you out of."