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finehoe says

foxmannumber1 says

liberals denying evolution

Huh?

Liberals believe in selective evolution. To put it simply, liberals believe evolution stopped at the neck. For a liberal to admit a genetic difference in intelligence drawn along racial lines is like a Christian saying that Jesus doesn't exist.

foxmannumber1 says

For a liberal to admit a genetic difference in intelligence drawn along racial lines

Anything is possible. Are there measurable differences? And how much intelligence comes from genetics and how much comes from environmental factors?

This conversation seems to be doing some "evolution" of its own: It appears to be getting even more stupid and outlandish by the second.

edvard2 says

This conversation seems to be doing some "evolution" of its own: It appears to be getting even more stupid and outlandish by the second.

Good point.

How'd we get from a "gay war" to a "race war" in such a short time?

I have no effin' clue. The level of conversation that this post devolved into is stupid.

foxmannumber1 says

Cultural bias in IQ test was proven false many decades ago.

Source?

foxmannumber1 says

An IQ test is the best measure of intelligence that the modern world has come up with.

I have heard it described as a test to measure how well a person scores on an IQ test, and while not totally separated from how intelligent they are, quite biased based on their cultural background. Let me see if I can find some references on this.

foxmannumber1 says

Once you start dealing in anecdotal evidence you ignore what matters on a large scale: the average.

Why is the average more important than the individual? On average white people aren't very good at basketball -- should they not be allowed to play? Should you consider their abilities instead of the average.

foxmannumber1 says

Opening my eyes and allow your assumptions to be challenged is literally an extreme waste of time and just creates a potential victim. All the life social interaction and life experiences a white person wants can be had from other whites. The quality of such life will be better when dealing with other whites that share common blood, history and life goals.

My frustration has turned into sympathy. Please help yourself. You only live once - you don't have to endure the pain you are imposing on yourself.

foxmannumber1 says

It's better for Whites simply to avoid the blacks altogether.

In a primal, non-thinking jungle rules way, you are probably right. Better yet, though, is to elevate to a point where we do coexist and interact so the base level prejudices are suppressed. Are we better off being physically large, aggressive and well armed in a lawless land, or less physically imposing in a civilized society? You could certainly make the argument for option A, but why would you choose it if with a little work you could have option B...?

edvard2 says

I grew up in a rural Southern area where most everyone came not only from the same part of Europe ( Scotch-Irish) but most had also lived in that same part of the rural south for sometimes centuries.

Sounds like Kentucky/West Virginia/Tennessee/North Carolina to me.

Asians seem immune to culturally biased IQ tests and white privilege in general. Perhaps asians should teach their secret to blacks and latinos.

swebb says

On average white people aren't very good at basketball -- should they not be allowed to play?

I would there is no such metric that says whites aren't very good at basketball. At the extreme end of the scale, blacks may be better than whites at basketball. I would say that the average white is just as good as the average black at basketball with the same assurance that you say whites aren't very good at basketball.

Professional sports is one of the few places where merit matters. It has been proven that those blacks at the extreme top level have more fast twitch muscles than anyone else. This is a genetic trait. It's sad that it's one of the few jobs that value performance over diversity.

swebb says

Better yet, though, is to elevate to a point where we do coexist and interact so the base level prejudices are suppressed.

Blacks have a part to play in that social contract as well as whites. Currently, and for as long as they've been "free" in the USA, blacks commit violent crime, as well as any other crime, at rates far exceeding their population percentage. In order to be treated as equal citizens, blacks must first act like decent citizens.

Until the black crime rate drops to 13% of total crime in this country I'll steer clear of blacks and recommend that others do as well.

I suggest this thread be deleted. The content being expressed here is totally inappropriate and serves no useful purpose other than to serve as a display of outright ignorance.

foxmannumber1 says

Perhaps asians should teach their secret to blacks and latinos.

But how would they grasp it, if they are inferior?

foxmannumber1 says

There are simply not many intelligent blacks in the world. The Bell Curve graph is one of the most important pieces of scientific fact from the 20th century.

foxmannumber1 says

The blacks who can benefit from high school(10% of all blacks) or college(about 2%) would be identified through a merit based screening process.

Since you like to base so much of your argument on your supposed facts about IQ, I'll just share these two observations.

1) You sound like someone with an IQ of in the low 90s at best. Please prove me wrong by sharing your IQ related accomplishments.

(although as I said earlier, the idea that a persons intelligence can be represented by a number that we can easily determine is absurd. Even if by intelligence you only meant how productively employed they could be.)

2) I've never read commentary or serious analysis that backs up your racist beliefs. A high majority of the people who do have truly high IQs by any reasonable measure, don't buy what you're selling here. Not at all.

Historically groups immigrating from Europe were "proven" to be less intelligent until later, when they were on average at a higher socio economic level, and more literate, they scored much higher.

Many understand that IQ tests are more a test of literacy than intelligence.

Also what's the stupid fear about anyway ? And all the talk of racial homogeneity. I've lived in diverse environments so much, that to tell you the truth, when I visit all white places, I get kinda creeped out. Seriously. And I am white (although half Irish, so maybe that doesn't count).

The one thing I believe about genetics is that mixing with as distant cousins as possible is good, not that I would choose a mate only on that, or even give it that high a weight. But it is the best thing to do if you're just trying to improve the gene pool. This is why there's so much talent in a tiger woods or a Barack Obama.

I have no fear of the white race shrinking. Like many here, I simply can't begin to relate to your fear or your ignorance.

marcus says

foxmannumber1 says

The Bell Curve graph is one of the most important pieces of scientific fact from the 20th century.

Let me guess. You haven't tried very hard to understand any of the significant scholarly criticism of the racial conclusions of that book.

edvard2 says

I have no effin' clue. The level of conversation that this post devolved into is stupid.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." -- John Stuart Mill