Poll: Obama worst president since WWII
2014 Jul 2, 1:35am 33,670 views 79 comments
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Ronald Reagan being far and away the best president since WW2 doesn't surprise me, but how does Carter only get 8% of the vote for the worst? He was just as bad, or worse, than Obama and Bush.
I knew he was/is the worst president from the moment he was elected. Guess I'm just a fortune teller, but yeah, no surprise here, the man is the worst of the worst.
And lakermania - Obama is Carter version 2.0, new, not-improved, and horrible. ALMOST (please note almost) makes one wish it was Carter again and not Obama. But I lived through Carter and it was horrible then too - just a bit worse now.
zzyzzx
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2014 Jul 2, 3:37am
how does Carter only get 8% of the vote for the worst
It's all Obama's fault!!! Obama is so much worse, plus how many people voting in the poll were old enough to remember Carter?
indigenous
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2014 Jul 2, 3:58am
Sounds about right although I would say O is FDR 2.0
I would vote for Eisenhower and Coolidge as best in recent times. Not Reagan.
Worst:
Wilson
FDR
LBJ
Obama
Lincoln
Its kind of hilarious all the arm-chair presidents bashing Obama. Everything these morons want to do is lower taxes, end welfare , make abortion illegal, and make everyone pray again in schools. Then, magically, everything will be better!
Obama is doing fine with the hand he was dealt... Only so much you can do with a pair of deuces and a closet full of shit problems piled a high.
Bellingham Bill
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2014 Jul 2, 4:16am
Obama is Carter version 2.0
I wish.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=EHe
shows how employment rose 10M 1977-80, and would have risen further if the Volcker Fed hadn't declared war on the economy at the end of his first term.
Carter was a helluva president. He was a centrist like Obama, but he got more liberal once out of office.
Carter if course had (D) Congresses, something Obama lost in 2010, well 2009 since the (R)s were filibustering everything then.
HydroCabron
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2014 Jul 2, 4:17am
make abortion illegal
And IUDs cause abortion! And you're more likely to purchase an IUD on a weekday! And weekdays are when women are most likely to work!
Therefore, letting women work causes abortion!
Maybe we shouldn't let the same people who think 97% of scientists are wrong about climate change decide what sorts of birth control constitute abortion...
HydroCabron
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2014 Jul 2, 4:36am
while John F. Kennedy came in third
Moral: get shot at the right time.
That presidency could have gone any which way, but the Vietnam War was his creation, and he should have lived so that he would have had to answer for it.
Finally, a message of brotherhood and outreach to all who believe Kennedy was about to leave Vietnam: You are all total morons.
HydroCabron
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2014 Jul 2, 4:37am
When a person maxes out the family credit cards its irresponsible and leads to financial ruin. When a Republican president does it it's considered the gold standard for sound economic policy.
But we stood tall in Beirut - and Grenada!
Ceffer
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2014 Jul 2, 4:51am
Since the "Something for Nothings" re-elected him, they get to watch Obama become the worst president since himself.
Worst:
Wilson
FDR
LBJ
Obama
Lincoln
Gee wizz... I would have never guessed that your list was almost entirely Democrats. I assume your "Best" list would include Bush, Reagan, and all the other crappy GOP presidents we had before.
I knew that our resident right-winger bloggers would almost wet their pants over this the second I saw it on the news this morning.
Doesn't mean much given that Bush was a hell of a lot worse than Obama ever could be. I mean- seriously... most of Obama's presidency has been cleaning up the horrific mess the Bush Admin left behind and there's still a lot further to go.
lostand confused
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2014 Jul 2, 6:16am
This is what you get when you elect Justin Beiber president.
Tenpoundbass
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2014 Jul 2, 7:23am
Obama is doing fine with the hand he was dealt... Only so much you can do with a pair of deuces and a closet full of shit problems piled a high.
Sure there IS, you don't run for President when the "Situation" is your excuse not to do anything.
The poll indicates most people don't know anything about history before they were born. Aside from that, it's true the 80's and 90's were the best of times, and from 2000 and beyond, we've had nothing but shit.
It's also interesting to note, each of the two periods of time had a democrat and a republican in charge?
1980-2000, Reagan and Clinton
2000-present, Bush and Obama
One of the reasons we've had so much difficulty this time is Republicans REFUSE to allow Obama the same remedy as Reagan:
Nope. Incorrect interpretation. The reason things aren't getting done is because about 1.2 nanoseconds after Obama was elected the entire GOP decided to act like 2 year olds and throw a tantrum: They simply have refused to do ANYTHING that is even remotely close to being a compromise.
Want a perfect example? That immigration bill everyone's making a big stink about: The senate passed the bill over a year ago. The only thing left is for the House to vote on it. Note I didn't say PASS it, but simply VOTE. Yes or no. Yet the GOP has refused to even do that. And hence why Obama is taking executive action.
If anything the GOP has succeeded in doing what they sat out to do from the very start of the Obama admin: To do nothing, totally freeze politics in Washington, and therefore lower the public's opinion of politics in general. Yes: They were totally willing and wound up ruining their own poll numbers rather than act like adults and do their jobs.
Reagan NEVER had the level of non-action from the Democrats. SO its a bit unfair to claim he was such a grreat president when he had at least a functioning government to work with...
However Obama has cast legislation that will probably kill this country.
yup. Just like most debates on this site, when one person doesn't have a point, try and wiggle out of it by making some outlandish statement that lacks any concrete proof or is totally devoid of fact.
Interesting because as I mentioned above Obama has had to clean up a legacy of crap created by Bush.
They will do the same thing with Hillary.
And on that same note if somehow the GOP manages to find a halfway sane candidate and actually wins in 2016 the Democrats are probably going to treat the GOP the same way they got treated: By doing nothing. That would be every bit as bad as what Obama's admin has had to deal with and bad for the country.
indigenous
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2014 Jul 2, 9:37am
making some outlandish statement that lacks any concrete proof or is totally devoid of fact.
If you do not believe that the ACA and Frank Dodd are not going to sink this country you have not studied the history of these types of measures and the inevitable increase in cost. This has been true with Social Security and has been true with Medicare and it WILL be true with the the ACA.
If you doubt this go look at the easily found facts for yourself, I'm not your servant.
CL
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2014 Jul 2, 10:09am
Thirty-five percent of voters said Ronald Reagan was the best president since World War II, receiving nearly twice as many votes as any other former president.
So, there's sampling bias?
"Survey was conducted at a Bagger convention of unborn fetuses"
Y
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2014 Jul 2, 1:05pm
No surprise.
And not really Obama's fault. This is the fault of the media driven reality game tv shows which herded the sheepans and sheepettes to the polls with the belief that they too could become a real life part of history by voting for the first black candidate for president, never mind that his experience level came nowhere close to the job requirements...
Obama worst president since WWII
Y
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2014 Jul 2, 1:07pm
It's the liberal establishment's fault for hyperventilating to their hussys that they, too! could become a part of history by voting for a black man, never mind the extremely limited experience level...
how does Carter only get 8% of the vote for the worst
It's all Obama's fault!!!
zzyzzx
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2014 Jul 2, 11:26pm
At least Carter gave us peanuts.... We haven't got squat from O-Boy...
Well some people did get Obamaphones..
zzyzzx
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2014 Jul 2, 11:31pm
Typical liberal tactic, they can't defend Obama's abysmal performance, so they attack Reagan.
monkframe
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2014 Jul 3, 1:21am
So has anybody actually seen what the questions in this poll were and how they were asked? The results can skew easily with the "right" emphasis.
I would rely far more on a poll such as this one:
Historians pay a little more attention to the details, and their opinion about G.W.Bush was remarkably consistent.
How soon we forget.
If you do not believe that the ACA and Frank Dodd are not going to sink this country you have not studied the history of these types of measures and the inevitable increase in cost. This has been true with Social Security and has been true with Medicare and it WILL be true with the the ACA.
Most people who today rail against the ACA are also the exact same people who cry like 2 year olds whenever any mention is given as to adjusting Medicare and Social Security. Those programs were also equally chastised by the GOP when they were introduced almost 50 years ago.
We've had this conversation before, but it always comes down to simple mathematics. The problem is that people would rather insist on unrealistic ideological solutions rather than economic ones. The problem today is that we have a frozen political system whereas any and all new spending is not met by anything remotely close to the economic support it deserves. Namely- taxation. The GOP's insistence on never-ever raising taxes and at the same time insisting on a lop-sided tax system which cuts taxes unfairly for the largest source of that taxable income is the main reason why many of this country's programs are grossly underfunded. Ironically its the GOP who then whines and complains about spending because they seem to be incapable of understanding that when you starve the government of funds then naturally that creates a deficit. I'm not even talking about the creation of new programs. I'm talking about existing systems that in some cases have been in place for generations.
Where am I going with this? Name me the biggest problem with programs like the ACA, Medicare and Social Security. Actually nevermind. The problem is that they cost money. So naturally I fail to see why there is this huge surprise in the GOP that somehow these programs are sometimes running in the red while at the same time they continually demand tax cuts and won't consider any other newer forms of taxable revenue.
What the GOP is basically doing is trying to run the country as if it can mysteriously function without basic economic principles: the cost of everything goes up over time. Naturally that means the cost of government programs also goes up.
The one and only thing that the GOP claims about taxes is that they "Hurt businesses and the middle class". But the reality of the situation is that its just as bad to NOT raise taxes because that in turn creates equally bad problems. The difference is that the GOP claims "X" "Will" happen when in fact negative side effects from their tax policies are happening as we speak. There has to be a compromise.
Lastly, you want to know what's ironic? Guess which countries in the world are ranked highest in overall happiness and contentedness? -Almost entirely those countries which have strong, affordable, and universal access to healthcare, education, and retirement security. Countries like Costa Rica ( ironically I've met my fair share of conservatives who plan to move there ) where as a citizen you have access to free healthcare, college education and decent retirement security. These things of course cost money and on a per-capita basis taxes there are more costly. The right would like you and I to believe that this scenario would make us all a bunch of communists. Its time to put that aside because just because your government makes your life easier doesn't mean its automatically a communist government. I visited Costa Rica last year. Sorry, but they are not in the slightest a communist country.
Perhaps a few conservatives could learn a thing or two by actually traveling to some of the countries where government programs aren't sneered at. Maybe, just maybe they would see right then and there that the bullshit they've been spoon-fed- which is this absurd belief any and all social programs are automatically bad.
The poll numbers do not look good anyway that you want to slice it or dress it.........................
zzyzzx
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2014 Jul 3, 2:14am
Don't try to fight with a duck. You'll run around in circles and end up with poop on your shoes.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/poll-obama-worst-president-since-wwii-108507.html
A plurality of voters think Barack Obama is the worst president since World War II, a new poll says.
According to a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday, 33 percent of voters think the current president is the worst since 1945.
Obama’s predecessor, former President George W. Bush, came in at second-worst with 28 percent, and Richard Nixon was in third place with 13 percent of the vote. After Jimmy Carter, who 8 percent of voters said was the worst president in the time period, no other president received more than 3 percent.
Thirty-five percent of voters said Ronald Reagan was the best president since World War II, receiving nearly twice as many votes as any other former president. Bill Clinton came in second place at 18 percent, while John F. Kennedy came in third with 15 percent of the vote and Obama came in fourth with 8 percent saying he was the best.
All other remaining presidents received 5 percent or less. Five percent of voters said Dwight D. Eisenhower was the best president since 1945, while 4 percent said Harry Truman. Lyndon Johnson and George H.W. Bush each received 3 percent. George W. Bush came in at 1 percent.
Forty-five percent of voters said the U.S. would be better off with Mitt Romney serving in the White House, compared to 38 percent who said the country would be in worse shape.
The survey comes as Obama in recent weeks has found his popularity at the lowest levels of his presidency.
The Quinnipiac poll reported more bad news about the president’s approval and competency ratings. Forty percent of voters approve of the job Obama is doing, compared with 53 percent who disapprove. Fifty-four percent of voters say the Obama administration is not competent at running the government.
The survey was conducted June 24-30 with 1,446 registered voters on land lines and cellphones. The margin for error is plus or minus 2.6 percentage points.
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