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marcus says

Haven't we seen enough evidence of Zimmerman's personality from stories before and after ? HE should not have engaged Martin with a gun. When it comes down to it, we have his story and that's pretty much it.

Uhh... Zimmerman didn't engage martin with a gun. The gun didn't come out until martin was beating the sh! out of him.

And he didn't instigate the fight. He was following him until the dispatcher told he he didn't need too, then Zimmerman said he lost him and didn't know where he ran off too.

btw did you watch the trial? If you did you'd know the facts.

marcus says

I don't know for sure if you're a racist. Maybe you're just really really stupid, and kind of an evil asshole that thinks that kind of behavior is just okay in your book.

You live in CA right? Because if I can only hope to GAWD that you don't become the teacher of my child or even my 2nd cousins. You're a public school teacher right? If so I guess I have nothing to worry about.

They have decided to close schools tomorrow in Ferguson, MO. Wonderful. I guess the students are don't need the extra day of class.

spydah_hh says

marcus says

I don't know for sure if you're a racist. Maybe you're just really really stupid, and kind of an evil asshole that thinks that kind of behavior is just okay in your book.

You live in CA right? Because if I can only hope to GAWD that you don't become the teacher of my child or even my 2nd cousins. You're a public school teacher right? If so I guess I have nothing to worry about.

Well he is home today I think judging by higher than usual number of postings. So as long as you or your relatives don't attend LAUSD, where Marcus likely teaches, you are prolly ok.

spydah_hh says

And he didn't instigate the fight.

I'm thinking that would be your story too, if you were trying to avoid being found guilty of murder. Zimmerman's story is not the same thing as a fact. In fact it's very suspicious. WE know how weird the details(of his quoted story) sound, and anyone that isn't a complete asshole knows that he shouldn't have even been following Martin while armed. HE did confront Martin at one point. Common sense would suggest that if a physical fight ensued it was probably because Zimmerman tried to detain him. (YES, I KNOW - that's not Zimmerman's story !).

But I understand that Martin is dead and we pretty much only have Zimmerman's story. Interesting how that works, isn't it ?

marcus says

You know who the ignorant racist prick is here.

You.

I'm not going to post links to all the stories of Zimmerman's psychotic behavior before and after that killing. You don't care because you're blinded by ignorance and hate. Even if Zimmerman unnecessarily instigated a fight (while armed) and then somehow can be said to have had the right to shoot Martin, only a totally moronic pussy such as yourself would think that's okay.

For a guy who doesn't jump to conclusions, you sure use a whole lot of non relevant fact to make your judgements.

I don't know for sure if you're a racist. Maybe you're just really really stupid, and kind of an evil asshole that thinks that kind of behavior is just okay in your book.

Didn't you already out yourself in your own thread on liberal vs. conservative intelligence?

jvolstad says

They have decided to close schools tomorrow in Ferguson, MO. Wonderful. I guess the students are don't need the extra day of class.

They need an extra day to shop!

marcus says

spydah_hh says

And he didn't instigate the fight.

I'm thinking that would be your story too, if you were trying to avoid being found guilty of murder. Zimmerman's story is not the same thing as a fact. In fact it's very suspicious. WE know how weird the details(of his quoted story) sound, and anyone that isn't a complete asshole knows that he shouldn't have even been following Martin while armed. HE did confront Martin at one point.

COmmon sense would suggest that if a physical fight ensued it was because Zimmerman tried to detain him.

But I understand that Martin is dead and we pretty much only have Zimmerman's story. Interesting how that works, isn't it ?

Way to refute non facts....post more non facts.

And I'm the stupid one. Wow.

spydah_hh says

Because if I can only hope to GAWD that you don't become the teacher of my child or even my 2nd cousins. You're a public school teacher right? If so I guess I have nothing to worry about.

Only an idiot asshole such as you would think that any of my classes (MAth up to AP Calculus) would have anything to do with my sharing opinions about such controversial matters. It's Mathematics.

I never would mention it, but even if somehow I did mention that I thought Martin was murdered by Zimmerman, these are for the most part smart kids (much more healthy emotionally than you) who can think for themselves. And they would have no problem disagreeing if that's what they thought. The childish name calling would never come up, and on both sides of the argument, we are smart enough to know that we don't know for sure what happened.

But also on both sides of the discussion we would understand that unnecessarily a life was lost that night, and I'm pretty sure the truth would be obvious to most of them, that it was almost definitely the fault of Zimmerman, even if technically he did not commit murder that night.

No indictment! Again, I prove to be an oracle.
Let the riots ... er, "Christmas shopping" begin!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/24/ferguson-grand-jury-deliberations/19474907/

This month has been a liberal's worst dry dream.
they had their nuts crunched by the porkrind knawing southern inbreeders in the elections.
Wilson is vindicated despite sbh's personal dickhunt against all police enforcement.
What's next? Maddow announces she's hetero???
OH MY GOD WHAT A FUCKIN NIGHTMARE!!!

bgamall4 says

dodgerfanjohn says

Michael Brown died, witnesses lied.

After hearing the prosecutors words, don't those of you who kept citing the "six eyewitnesses" feel really stupid?

If not, you should.

There were witnesses who stuck with the story that his hands were up facing the officer. If he was shooting at his back he was a crappy shot.

The prosecutor did not prove that one witness was stronger than another witness and a jury did not get the opportunity to engage the witnesses in a real trial. That is fact.

LOLWUT?

All autopsies showed that Michael Brown was never shot in the back.

marcus says

Only idiot asshole such as you would think that the way any of my classes (which go up to AP Calculus) go would have anything to do with my sharing opinions about such controversial matters.

Wait a minute, you, by your own admission, have an IQ that is average at best. Yet somehow you completed a BS in math and teach AP Calculus.

*mind asplodes*

Strategist says

bgamall4 says

Strategist says

The rape charges are believable. He needs to be prosecuted.

Sorry, statute of limitations has run out. You didn't know that? We are talking 30 years. I am saying he could have problems with his career going forward.

I didn't think there was a statute of limitations on rape. Priests get prosecuted after decades all the time.

Bill Cosby story is looking a bit like Kobe Bryant's, some ten years back.

I think it's better for men to see hoes than to bang a regular junkie. A hoe can't later say that she didn't get paid for a screw.

Good job Quigley.

I like to wait for the facts to fete out in the legal system, but I'll give credit to those who stick their necks out with clear, detailed, fact based conclusions.

On an unrelated note, nobody brought up any of these allegations against Cosby until he recently got political. Now the accusers come out of the woodwork to cry foul for things that may or may not have happened forty years ago.
Total OBVIOUS smear job. Someone in power wants him silenced now.

Okay just for you guys. Two links demonstrating what a psycho Zimmerman is. I don't know about you all, but I've never been arrested for the kind of things he has, and neither have any of the people that I know. These are just two of the incidents since the Martin killing. I think there are at least two other times that police have been called to a scene because of his behavior (since the killing - there were others before).

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2013/1119/George-Zimmerman-latest-arrest-and-a-troubling-post-verdict-saga

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-threatens-kill-driver-road-rage-incident-police-article-1.1937738

Believe it or not, common sense is actually a big part of Mathematics. I know that some who have common sense and never developed Math skills to a high level might dissagree.

I'm not saying that having common sense makes someone good at Math. There's more to it than that. One has to be motivated and do practice etc.

But common sense is a huge factor in approaching problems you haven't seen before and in problem solving in general. My common sense tells me Zimmerman probably murdered Martin.

I don't know it as an absolute fact. But you don't know that the story he told on trial is true either. But one thing everyone knows with certainty is that the guy is something of a psycho.

Call it Crazy says

marcus says

Believe it or not, common sense is actually a big part of MAthematics.

marcus says

I'm not saying that having common sense makes someone good at Math.

marcus says

My common sense tells me Zimmerman probably murdered Martin.

So, we'll conclude from your statements that you're both bad at math and bad with common sense?

He probably had a hand in creating the Common Core ciriculumn also, which makes him Jar Jar Binks.

All of you mad folks are on the wrong side of not only History but grey hair Obama. He ain't hip like black hair Obama, he's more conservative and don't allow no picketing, pipe bombing, bandana wearing, meatloaf cocktail tossing protestors. So get off the lawn!

Protesters have shut down I44, but looters are destroying Fergusson main street. Looks like a Walgreens, an electronics store, a McDonalds, a ToysRus, a Sams Meats, a Dollar Tree, etc are being looted. The walgreens is on fire.
This seems like a measured response.
Where are the National Guard? I thought the governor called them out? Meanwhile more shootings are happening, and at least three cops cars are burning.
Justice indeed.

If you want to keep up with events as they roll in, check this LIVE link on reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/live/tdrph3y49ftn/

Continued necessity of the civil rights movement is as big a farce as fracking, climate change, GMO, and the continued feminist movement.

PT Barnum was a genius...and a century ahead of his time.

Quigley says

Dollar Tree, etc are being looted.

Who in the world loots a Dollar Tree? Those photos need to be posted on a wall of shame.

Call it Crazy says

curious2 says

Who in the world loots a Dollar Tree?

It's the end of the month, their EBT card is empty!

HA HA HA.
They attacked a McDonalds too.

bgamall4 says

Call it Crazy says

curious2 says

Who in the world loots a Dollar Tree?

It's the end of the month, their EBT card is empty!

When you are judged and go to hell, you will long for an EBT card, CIC.

He is innocent, like Officer Wilson.

Call it Crazy says

Ferguson Witnesss Told Investigators That Michael Brown Charged Cop "Like a Football Player Head Down"

Guess you did not get the memo:
Criminals who hurt you are now the good guys, while those who try and protect you are the bad guys.
If you had an iPhone you would have got the memo.

bgamall4 says

dodgerfanjohn says

Continued necessity of the civil rights movement is as big a farce as fracking, climate change, GMO, and the continued feminist movement.

Are you kidding? There is obvious institutional racism in Ferguson, whether this cop acted responsibly or not. And thing is, he didn't get to be judged by a jury of his own peers. What was Ferguson afraid of?

WTH would a jury of his peers be judging him on?!??

There was NO probable cause to belive a crime was committed.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Wait, please don't answer. I'd hate to permanently ruin everyone's entertainment.

Call it Crazy says

For Marcus, put this sign up on the wall in your classroom tomorrow for all your students to see. It will make you feel better!

You wish I was half the idiot and half the asswipe that you and dodgerfanDumb are.

Interesting that you have no comment not even slightest on the content of my comment. I provided links that show what a psycho Zimmerman is, and I observe what nobody can deny, which is that if Zimmerman had stayed in his car as instructed, there would have been no killing that night.

Call it Crazy says

the witness’s account of the unarmed Brown charging Wilson--even after he had been shot in the hand during a struggle at the cop’s patrol car--supports the officer’s contention that he fired a series of shots as Brown bore down on him.

Good thing there just happened to be a witness there helping to justify SHOOTING HIM 6 TIMES !! Including twice in the head.

So this person "Josie" who is a family friend of wilson's is what his being let off the hook is based on ?

It's a yes or no question.

bgamall4 says

Strategist says

while those who try and protect you are the bad guys.

They can be. Hopefully you won't get one who doesn't like you. I was in a store one time when a cop came in and threatened to arrest the clerk and he was just "having fun".

Just give him a couple of donuts and he will be on his way.

bgamall4 says

dodgerfanjohn says

WTH would a jury of his peers be judging him on?!??

They would listen to the witnesses who said he charged the deputy and others who said he didn't and decide who was lying on the stand. That is what trials are for.

That happens never. You are very ignorant of criminal law in the US as is Marcus.

Under your standard I could walk into a police station with a black eye, say that bg mall punched me, and we'd go straight to trial.

bgamall4 says

dodgerfanjohn says

That happens never. You are very ignorant of criminal law in the US as is Marcus.

Under your standard I could walk into a police station with a black eye, say that bg mall punched me, and we'd go straight to trial.

Read the timeline above from CNN. You can't say Wilson was in the right. I don't personally believe he was considering the timeline.

CNN doesn't have all the facts, not by a long shot. The Grand Jury did.

Just how bad would it have to be for CIC or dogerfan to think that just maybe it was excessive force and maybe just a little bit unnecessary.

That is 6 shots including two in the head.

marcus says

Just how bad would it have to be for CIC or dogerfan to think that just maybe it was excessive force and maybe just a little bit unnecessary.

That is 6 shots including two in the head.

Now you are just flat out lying. Your interpretation of events omits relevant facts.

Again I ask Marcus, why do you hate facts and evidence?

I assume it's due to your racist bias.

bgamall4 says

And as far as the Michael Brown case is concerned, there is enough evidence here to indict: http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/08/us/ferguson-brown-timeline/

Conspiracies 24/7 has rotted your brain. The CNN article is crap and neither time line makes any sense. How does someone sitting in a car reach up and grab someone 6'4 by the neck? Why would someone walk away after being shot? It is such garbage that even you shouldn't bother with it.

The only thing to come out of this whole mess is the fact that the training at SLPD (and far too many other pd's) is criminally incompetent. Too bad no one is pointing it out. No competent well trained cop would have ever been in that position.

The Community is hopeless when it's too dumb to understand that a grand jury consists of their own people to represent them and to override the justice system. Last night's reaction to the verdict is proof they still don't have a clue.

I root for the anti American, Police state apologists to meet their comeuppance

This was predictable and is observable here. There is a bias against blacks in America, which results in them getting killed and in the public not giving a shit.

Second, is bias in favor of police. People assign all kinds of qualities---manliness, heroism, archetypal qualities-- to cops.

The de facto policy is that cops can kill blacks and nearly always get away with it.

What I don't get is why conservatives so willingly fall in love with the police, who are simply Gendarmes for the State, to be used to further the goals of the State.

I suspect they have daddy issues, but that's for a later discussion.

Right wingers are just as much statists as the left

They are very loyal to the state. Just most whites are inherently racist against blacks

bgamall4 says

dodgerfanjohn says

Now you are just flat out lying. Your interpretation of events omits relevant facts.

Again I ask Marcus, why do you hate facts and evidence?

I assume it's due to your racist bias.

Why did the officer use inflammatory language right at the beginning to tell those boys to get off the road? It wasn't necessary and it started the ball rolling. It could have been avoided entirely.

Okay so it's official.. When some people or perhaps even many people have childhood trauma or even a bad childhood, their brains don't develop properly and what you get is ignorance and IQs that are probably below 90 which allows them to believe in false stories.

That's the only way I can explain this. Anyone else want to give it a shot?

SBH...it's a step up.

curious2 says

Quigley says

Dollar Tree, etc are being looted.

Who in the world loots a Dollar Tree?