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Solar energy vs nuclear


               
2014 Sep 17, 1:49am   2,452 views  13 comments

by FortWayne   follow (1)  

http://rt.com/news/188332-mox-nuclear-fuel-production/

Saw this article today about how Russia is producing nuclear energy without nuclear waste. Seems very impressive, however, how does it stand up to Obama's solar initiative or our dated oil burning system?

Are we simply going in a wrong direction, and picked an inferior energy source? What do you folks think?

#politics

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1   justme   2014 Sep 17, 1:57am  

It's Obama's Fault (TM).

No, actually it is the fault of brain-dead soccer-moms with zero analytic capability. They are the voting block that prevents proper and sustainable nuclear energy. Once the lights start going out, though, they will change their minds. Much too late.

2   HydroCabron   2014 Sep 17, 2:00am  

We should be doing both solar and nuclear.

Unfortunately, nuclear waste disposal is stalled by opposition in any proposed area, with the possible exception of north Texas, where they're actively welcoming it. Yucca Mountain seems to be dead - Nevadans are idiots.

WIPP (Waste Isolation Pilot Project) in New Mexico is stalled due to a minor leak they can't (or won't) explain.

I would avoid referring to Russia as an example of any sort of nuclear power technology, FWIW.

Store all the waste in Nantucket, or Napa Valley, is my suggestion.

For some reason, a lot of people on the right are now hysterically anti-nuclear, which means they have adopted one of the worst habits of knee-jerk leftists.

Sigh.

3   FortWayne   2014 Sep 17, 2:08am  

HydroCabron says

Unfortunately, nuclear waste disposal is stalled by opposition in any proposed area, with the possible exception of north Texas, where they're actively welcoming it. Yucca Mountain seems to be dead - Nevadans are idiots.

In that article they have nuclear "supposedly" without nuclear waste. It's something that impresses me a lot, provided that article is accurate.

4   HydroCabron   2014 Sep 17, 2:20am  

FortWayne says

provided that article is accurate

The source is RT, which is all over the place as to veracity.

Grain o' salt.

5   Peter P   2014 Sep 17, 2:23am  

I prefer the good old oil. They call it black gold for a reason.

Otherwise, nuculur sounds good too.

6   MisdemeanorRebel   2014 Sep 17, 2:29am  

It's the BN-800, a 4th Gen Nuclear plant, where they can use uranium-plutonium weapons-grade material or old reactors in the core. It'll also greatly reduce this material from thousands of years of radioactivity to centuries.

7   justme   2014 Sep 17, 2:38am  

justme says

proper and sustainable nuclear energy

I think I need to clarify this statement. By "proper and sustainable nuclear energy" I mean reactors, such as the Russian reactors mentioned in the linked article, which run on the nuclear waste from traditional reactors.

The russians know this, the french know this, the germans failed to know this and the US collectively failed to know this.

8   Peter P   2014 Sep 17, 2:58am  

Sustainability is overrated. History has the uncanny ability to course correct. Things will turn out just fine. Why promote stagnancy?

9   MisdemeanorRebel   2014 Sep 17, 3:43am  

Peter P says

Sustainability is overrated. History has the uncanny ability to course correct. Things will turn out just fine. Why promote stagnancy?

Ask Easter Islanders.

We'll chop down the last tree if that's what it takes to be the first clan to get the first spring egg of the Sooty Turn!

They never did find a replacement for trees...

10   justme   2014 Sep 17, 3:45am  

Peter P says

Sustainability is overrated. History has the uncanny ability to course correct. Things will turn out just fine. Why promote stagnancy?

Are you willing to go first?

11   Peter P   2014 Sep 17, 3:47am  

thunderlips11 says

Ask Easter Islanders.

But the world is bigger than Easter Island. This is why we need a diversity of cultures. People want different things. Such dialectical forces will form a path.

Moreover, Easter Island turns out just fine. It is now a tourist attraction.

12   Peter P   2014 Sep 17, 3:48am  

justme says

Peter P says

Sustainability is overrated. History has the uncanny ability to course correct. Things will turn out just fine. Why promote stagnancy?

Are you willing to go first?

Go where?

I prefer alternative ecologies like cruise ships. Good food. Great people.

13   myob   2014 Sep 17, 7:01am  

FortWayne says

In that article they have nuclear "supposedly" without nuclear waste. It's something that impresses me a lot, provided that article is accurate.

It's not very accurate. They're still left over with a radioactive mess of various isotopes, but they're nowhere near as toxic or long lived as spent uranium or plutonium. The waste from breeder reactors needs to be buried for a century or so, then it's safe to handle like any other toxic waste that's not radioactive.

LFTR's (Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors) are another technology which can "burn" waste from existing fission plants and reprocess it into less toxic materials.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor#Waste_reduction

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