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Now Hiring, Programers in Fremont. $1.21 an Hour!


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2014 Oct 31, 12:51am   8,709 views  24 comments

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"Ever heard of Electronics for Imaging? We hadn't either until this morning, but it's apparently a multimillion dollar, multinational, public corporation based out of Fremont, California. And the United States Department of Labor just caught EFI red-handed in an investigation, which found that "about eight employees" were flown in from India to work 120-hour weeks for $1.21 per hour. EFI apparently thought it was okay to pay the employees the same wages they'd be paid in India (in Indian rupees). Here's the unbelievably crazy sounding quote EFI gave to NBC's Bay Area affiliate: "We unintentionally overlooked laws that require even foreign employees to be paid based on local US standards."
http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/23/efi-underpaying-workers/

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1   Tenpoundbass   2014 Oct 31, 1:44am  

EFI was charged $3,500 -- yes, seriously -- for being at fault.

I would love to see their political contributions track records.

2   myob   2014 Oct 31, 1:46am  

This is exploitation pure and simple. They're doing something illegal, and no politician allowed them to do this. Sometimes, employers are scum all on their own.

3   dublin hillz   2014 Oct 31, 1:59am  

they were being paid a competative wage, 10 employees at that salary could have rented out a garage, set up sleeping bags, defecate in the yard and make ends meet. Instead here come federal overreach again trying to punish the job creator.

4   myob   2014 Oct 31, 2:09am  

Actually, EFI's own explanation seems plausible:

They had some Indian employees out here for a couple of weeks working on something, and paid them Indian wages, just like sending American employees to an Indian branch usually means they get paid their American wages. US law doesn't allow that. I find their explanation plausible, and I think it passes the Occam's Razor test.

http://w3.efi.com/we-made-a-mistake

5   Zakrajshek   2014 Oct 31, 5:54am  

NO foriegn workers! Hire or train our people to do the work. Indians can stay in India and choke their chickens. Another corporate rip-off solved by Politically incorrect Man!

6   HydroCabron   2014 Oct 31, 5:58am  

Zakrajshek says

NO foriegn workers! Hire or train our people to do the work. Indians can stay in India and choke their chickens. Another corporate rip-off solved by Politically incorrect Man!

National borders are the ultimate form of statist oppression.

It's how government keeps us down. Not only is the government telling companies that they are only allowed to hire these people, but not those people, but it's the government picking winners and losers. And, thanks to the endless chanted repetition of that mantra by our conservative friends, we all know that the government picking winners and losers is wrong.

(Unless it's telling brown people they can't work or vote, because I hate them, but who cares about that. Sue me. Void where prohibited.)

7   Peter P   2014 Oct 31, 6:01am  

Zakrajshek says

NO foriegn workers! Hire or train our people to do the work. Indians can stay in India and choke their chickens. Another corporate rip-off solved by Politically incorrect Man!

Why?

We are heading towards a global single-market capitalism. It is a good thing.

8   FortWayne   2014 Oct 31, 6:03am  

myob says

This is exploitation pure and simple. They're doing something illegal, and no politician allowed them to do this. Sometimes, employers are scum all on their own.

The sad thing is that this is a pretty common scenario these days. It's just one company caught, one of many out there my friend...

9   myob   2014 Oct 31, 6:07am  

Zakrajshek says

NO foriegn workers! Hire or train our people to do the work. Indians can stay in India and choke their chickens. Another corporate rip-off solved by Politically incorrect Man!

I work as an engineer in tech, and my perception is that we have a shortage of qualified engineers. There are a ton of "IT" people, many unemployed, but good, experienced engineers and QA people are damn hard to find, while wannabe product managers, tech managers, "visionaries", are everywhere and unemployed. Is it our job to train them, or should they perhaps see where the demand is and pursue those areas themselves?

10   MAGA   2014 Oct 31, 6:14am  

Many companies like to hire H1-B's for IT work. They work cheap. One little problem. Most of them that I have met have little knowledge about IT.

11   Peter P   2014 Oct 31, 6:15am  

jvolstad says

Most of them that I have met have little knowledge about IT.

Most IT workers have little knowledge about IT anyway. Most CS graduates here cannot even code.

12   Zakrajshek   2014 Oct 31, 6:15am  

"Global capitalism" is not a good thing for the USA. As Paul Craig Roberts has predicted it will render the USA a third world country by 2024. The standard of living here is way down from the 1970s when it only took one income to raise a family. Inflation is up, up, up, while wages have been stagnant here since 1990. Pensions, benefits, vacation time, & health insurance have been got rid of by the corporations or whittled away. I'd say we're well on our way to Mr. Roberts prediction. If this continues, I'll predict most Americans will live like dogs by 2050. Millions already do.

13   New Renter   2014 Oct 31, 6:16am  

myob says

Zakrajshek says

NO foriegn workers! Hire or train our people to do the work. Indians can stay in India and choke their chickens. Another corporate rip-off solved by Politically incorrect Man!

I work as an engineer in tech, and my perception is that we have a shortage of qualified engineers. There are a ton of "IT" people, many unemployed, but good, experienced engineers and QA people are damn hard to find, while wannabe product managers, tech managers, "visionaries", are everywhere and unemployed. Is it our job to train them, or should they perhaps see where the demand is and pursue those areas themselves?

Yes it is your job to train.

14   Zakrajshek   2014 Oct 31, 6:20am  

Calculate up the number of engineering grads over the past 30 years. There are plenty of highly skilled people out there. Foriegners are hired because they will work for peanuts. It is corporate Silicon Valley's way of reducing pay.

15   EBGuy   2014 Oct 31, 6:38am  

To their credit, they did pay the workers for every hour they were awake (assuming 7 hours of sleep per night gives you the 120 hour work week).

16   Shaman   2014 Oct 31, 6:59am  

Most of the world gets by on less than $1 a day. If we create a truly global capitalist utopia, we can increase that to $2/day!

17   Robert Sproul   2014 Oct 31, 7:49am  

Quigley says

If we create a truly global capitalist utopia, we can increase that to $2/day!

Utopia or not, their share of the pie is increasing and ours is decreasing.
This trend line will get very painful for some Americans.

Here Economic Hit Man James Wolfensohn, former president of The World Bank, explains how a global power shift will see today's western economies drop from having 80% of the world's income to 35%.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/6a0zhc1y_Ns

18   humanity   2014 Oct 31, 8:23am  

CaptainShuddup says

I would love to see their political contributions track records.

What do you mean ? Aren't you going to just go ahead and blame it on the libruls ?

There must be some kind of jibberish you can put together that in your mind will feel like it supports that contention.

19   MisdemeanorRebel   2014 Oct 31, 8:28am  

Peter P says

We are heading towards a global single-market capitalism. It is a good thing.

Tee hee hee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations

He's been pretty damn right on so far.

20   humanity   2014 Oct 31, 8:34am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

If a laborer asks for pay, he is committing crimes against shareholders and is, de facto, a COMMUNIST!

Absurd, and yet true.

21   MAGA   2014 Oct 31, 10:21am  

Peter P says

Most IT workers have little knowledge about IT anyway. Most CS graduates here cannot even code.

That's true.

22   Y   2014 Oct 31, 10:34am  

Do we have to read it in order to know what's in it?

thunderlips11 says

Peter P says

We are heading towards a global single-market capitalism. It is a good thing.

Tee hee hee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations

He's been pretty damn right on so far.

23   Strategist   2014 Oct 31, 11:19am  

Robert Sproul says

"Ever heard of Electronics for Imaging? We hadn't either until this morning, but it's apparently a multimillion dollar, multinational, public corporation based out of Fremont, California. And the United States Department of Labor just caught EFI red-handed in an investigation, which found that "about eight employees" were flown in from India to work 120-hour weeks for $1.21 per hour. EFI apparently thought it was okay to pay the employees the same wages they'd be paid in India (in Indian rupees). Here's the unbelievably crazy sounding quote EFI gave to NBC's Bay Area affiliate: "We unintentionally overlooked laws that require even foreign employees to be paid based on local US standards."

All the company had to do was hire a Coyote and get them through Mexico. Name them Jose and voila, they are now legally illegal, and even get to vote.

24   FortWayne   2014 Oct 31, 2:42pm  

myob says

Actually, EFI's own explanation seems plausible:

They had some Indian employees out here for a couple of weeks working on something, and paid them Indian wages, just like sending American employees to an Indian branch usually means they get paid their American wages. US law doesn't allow that. I find their explanation plausible, and I think it passes the Occam's Razor test.

http://w3.efi.com/we-made-a-mistake

Oh they damn well knew what they were doing. Every asshole these days claims ignorance instead of taking responsibility. Like Clinton who wasn't sure how to wiggle out of his blow job scandal.

Clinton thing I let go, didn't bother me much. But these asshole are driving down wages, and the consumer spending. And at that point it places economic burden on America, and that is something I will never agree to!

I'd want some of these execs in prison for a few years.

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