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If I were a landlord no fucking way would I allow a dog in the house.

zzyzzx says

If I were a landlord no fucking way would I allow a dog in the house.

You lose a lot of potential tenants then. Just charge a large security deposit and extra fee/mo. for pets. And pick good renters.

Conservatives don't care about American lives. Their failure to protect the Homeland on 9/11 & ~4500 servicemen dead in Iraq based on the slime conservative LIE.

Damn!HEY YOU,Slime Conservative has a nice ring.

tatupu70 says

You lose a lot of potential tenants then. Just charge a large security deposit and extra fee/mo. for pets. And pick good renters.

I know, but I still wouldn't want an animal that poops and pees all over the floor of the house in any house I owned. Plenty of non-dog pet owners to rent to.

FortWayne says

Liberals trying to solve more problems no one thinks are a problem.

You mean like in person voter fraud?

L.A. City Council Moves To Make More Landlords Accept Pets

What the fuck does this have to do with liberals? Just because something happens in Los Angeles doesn't mean it's liberal. If a man took a shit on a baby's face in Texas would that make shitting on baby faces an integral part of the conservative platform?

FortWayne, you seriously need to pull you head out of your ass long enough to get some oxygen to your brain.

tatupu70 says

You lose a lot of potential tenants then. Just charge a large security deposit and extra fee/mo. for pets. And pick good renters.

True... If you're trying to rent out a house dog owners are frequent and will pay a premium for a place allowing dogs. Often that's the main reason they are looking to rent a house instead of an apartment.

In one of my rentals I've got a rather large dog door which automatically locks/unlocks via proximity to a blue-tooth device which attaches to the dogs collar. All of my tenants love it and all have had dogs.

When I bought the place the prior owners had dogs and I was never able to get the dog smell out of the carpet. However 3 rounds of tenants so far and none of them care. They're used to stinky dog smell indoors!

Eventually I'll rip out the carpet and put tile down in the main living areas which don't already have it, but the carpet that came with the place was already high quality and in great condition. Still is after 3 years.

I don't care, I don't plan to live there and any damage a dog might do is more than covered by the higher rent + potential pet deposit and rental deposit hold back.

Dan8267 says

What the fuck does this have to do with liberals? Just because something happens in Los Angeles doesn't mean it's liberal.

Read the article, it's the liberals who are on the side of "saving the puppies". Every single conservative thinks it is moronic to try to provide for dogs and cats before helping the homeless and the poor.

FortWayne says

Read the article, it's the liberals who are on the side of "saving the puppies". Every single conservative thinks it is moronic to try to provide for dogs and cats before helping the homeless and the poor.

I did read the article. It says nothing about liberals or conservatives. Nor does it say anything about dogs and cats being put before helping the homeless.

How fucked up are you? Are you really saying that we should care nothing about dogs and cats while a single person is homeless even when helping the dogs and cats in no way interferes with helping humans and in no way part of a trade-off? Note only is that immoral, it's just plain stupid.

No wonder conservatives cannot run governments or businesses. As any business person knows, you don't put off fixing all other problems until a particular problem is 100% fixed. Any business or government ran like that would collapse due to inefficiency. It would never get anything done. Every business person knows that you have to work on multiple problems in parallel to run any kind of business. The fact that conservatives like you don't understand this simple principle explains why conservatives can't govern for shit and think all government must be incompetent.

Dan8267 says

I did read the article. It says nothing about liberals or conservatives.

I happen to live out here. It's the liberals running around collecting signatures for this bullshit and are trying to save the puppies. Those lefties got some real bullshit in their heads, friends of yours?

FortWayne says

I happen to live out here. It's the liberals running around collecting signatures for this bullshit and are trying to save the puppies. Those lefties got some real bullshit in their heads, friends of yours?

If you're such a god damn expert, then you should be able to explain the difference between a liberal and a leftist. If you cannot, your opinion is based on misunderstanding and therefore is worthless.

So, explain in detail the difference between a liberal and a leftist.

I would totally ban pets if I were a landlord. Only for one reason.
People's unreasonable expectation to expect everyone to accept a ticking time bomb Pit Bulls as acceptable pets.
You can't ban just one breed, or the PC police will get all up in your shit. So just ban them all. And the PC police too!

Dan8267 says

So, explain in detail the difference between a liberal and a leftist.

Still waiting...

And still waiting...

Waiting....

Keep demonstrating that you are a closeted homosexual. No one could possibly be that obsessed with the sexual orientation of people he's never met unless he's a closet self-hating gay guy.

Oh honey, you can blame others for your cowardice all you want. It does not change the facts. You ran and hide twice in Florida and once in NJ. You refuse to meet at your address after begging me for mine, and you refuse to meet at any public location. That's all on you. I showed up. You didn't. I agreed to meet in public. You made excuses.

No amount of chicken-shit lying is going to convince anyone when they can all read the various threads in which you pussied out. Like most conservatives, you are a coward who likes to pretend he's a macho man but pisses his panties the first time his bluff is called.

Call It Crazy

I know the difference between you and your dad. Your dad has stopped screwing your mom.

Ironman says

I hope he has....

He's dead!

That hasn't stopped you from screwing either of them!

Dan8267 says

Waiting....

Gosh Dan I am not by the PC all day. Hell, out here left and liberal are same people, not a whole lot of difference.

FortWayne says

Hell, out here left and liberal are same people, not a whole lot of difference.

And that is why your opinions on any subject matter do not count. It's one thing to bitch and moan that a car doesn't have enough horsepower. It's another thing when the car you are bitching about is a tree.

Hmmm, where did I park?

Whatever you say Dan. You know us earthlings aren't up to your elite standards of Danisms.

Knowing that Communists and Progressivism have nothing to do with each other is a prerequisite to having your opinion on Progressivism taken seriously. If you don't know the difference between a quarterback and a shortstop then your opinion on football strategies carries no weight.

If you are so ignorant of a subject matter that you cannot differentiate between two completely different and unrelated things, then your opinion is based on fantasy, not reality.

Progressivism my ass, you people care more for dogs than humans... that's as old as the earth.

Gay marriage is not "Progressivism".
Marrying your dog is not "Progressivism" either.
Smoking lots of pot is not "Progressivism".
Trying to get up for "Dog rights" to real estate while there are humans on the street is just asshole

All of that that your party thinks are great, is nothing but a bunch of stupid behavior, for which your peeps generally do not wish to accept the consequences of.

Correct, none of those things are Progressivism. Now can you tell us what Progressivism is?

FortWayne says

All of that that your party thinks are great

No one thinks that marrying a dog should be legal. Well, CIC does, but no takes him seriously. Gay marriage is a Constitutional right under the 14th Amendment just like interracial marriage is and for the exact same reasons. See Loving V. Virginia, 1967. Your bigotry is not a persuasive argument.

The movement to ban rental businesses from banning pets is one I disagree with as a liberal, but it in no way impedes combating homelessness. Your argument is identical to there is no reason to stop rape when people are murdering, and it is a dishonest, stupid, and morally vile argument. You should be ashamed of making it.

You could also just as easily state that the police should not arrest people who rape dogs as long as there are people being raped and that argument. Your argument is just as stupid and for the exact same reasons.

Now, let's get back to your 5th grade lesson. What did the Progressive movement accomplish? Don't Google it. You should be able to answer this question by yourself.

Dan8267 says

Now can you tell us what Progressivism is?

David Horowitz grew up in a family of communists who in the 1940's called themselves "progressives" due to the stigma of communism. They lived in America, but their hearts belonged to Marx and they took their orders from Stalin. After graduating from Columbia Univesity in 1959, he was at the heart of the Free Speech Movement and was the editor of the radical newspaper Ramparts. He believed in all things "progressive" until the Black Panthers murdered a friend whom he'd recruited to keep their financial records. Over the next decade he eventually left the left and became a conservative and has written several books about his experience. This is an excerpt from one of his speeches, given in its entirety below:

"As I previously noted, the Communists in the circles I frequented in my youth never identified themselves as Communists but always as “progressives” and “Jeffersonian democrats” (which is the last thing they were). When I was a young man and Stalin was alive, the goal of the Communist Party U.S.A. was a “dictatorship of the proletariat,” and a “Soviet America.” But under Stalin’s inspiration the official slogan of the Communist Party was “Peace, Jobs, and Democracy.”

The lesson? People on the left may be delusional but they are not stupid. They know what they can say and get away with, and what they can’t. Barack Obama is a born and bred member of the left and not coincidentally is the most brazen and compulsive liar ever to occupy the American White House. What other politician could have successfully explained away the fact that two of his closest political confidantes over a twenty-year period were an anti-American racist, Jeremiah Wright and an anti-American terrorist William Ayers?"

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/206712/threat-we-face-david-horowitz

P N Dr Lo R says

Barack Obama is a born and bred member of the left and not coincidentally is the most brazen and compulsive liar ever to occupy the American White House. What other politician could have successfully explained away the fact that two of his closest political confidantes over a twenty-year period were an anti-American racist, Jeremiah Wright and an anti-American terrorist William Ayers?"

Wow--look in a mirror lately? Calling Ayers and Wright his closest political confidantes is beyond ridiculous.

P N Dr Lo R says

David Horowitz grew up in a family of communists

Completely irrelevant to what progressivism is or the the fact that FortWayne doesn't know the meaning of any of the things he complains about.

But hey, why don't you take a crack at it. What is Progressivism and what are it's accomplishments? Don't fucking copy-n-paste Wikipedia or Google. If you passed the fifth grade, you should be able to answer this easily without looking it up. It's not a trick question or a hard question.

Dan8267 says

What is Progressivism and what are it's accomplishments

"Instead of calling themselves communists or socialists they call themselves liberals and progressives. This camouflage is very old. I never once heard my parents and their party friends refer to themselves as Communists. They were progressives – and registered Democrats."

And Fox News deliberately uses the terms liberal, left, progressive, communist, and socialist all the time to brainwash people like you and FortWayne. And as FortWayne demonstrates it works.

But that does not excuse the willful ignorance of conservatives in not learning these terms and the real American history. I could ask any fifth grader in any blue state what progressivism is and he would be able to answer it immediately and correctly. If adult conservatives cannot, they are idiots and thus their opinions don't matter.

One of the most unpatriotic things you can do is failed to learn American history. No amount of flag waving makes up for that. And conservatives still peddle the bullshit that the Civil War was fought for states rights and economic differences rather than slavery. That's how bad conservatives are at history, and that is why they suck at government. You cannot properly run a government if you are ignorant of history, especially your nation's history.

Pets are a liberal conspiracy? Does this mean that conservatives do not own pets, only attack animals.

georgeliberte says

Pets are a liberal conspiracy? Does this mean that conservatives do not own pets

They do, but they use them as sex slaves.

Dan8267 says

Now, let's get back to your 5th grade lesson. What did the Progressive movement accomplish? Don't Google it. You should be able to answer this question by yourself.

Still waiting...

Dan8267 says

P N Dr Lo R says

David Horowitz grew up in a family of communists

Completely irrelevant to what progressivism is or the the fact that FortWayne doesn't know the meaning of any of the things he complains about.

But hey, why don't you take a crack at it. What is Progressivism and what are it's accomplishments?

Still waiting for you as well.

Dan8267 says

What is Progressivism

Sounds familiar:

"The first of these features is their alienation from country: If you ask progressives about their patriotic feeling, they will tell you that they don’t think of themselves first as Americans but as “citizens of the world.” That even has a Harvard imprimatur. They are, in fact, so profoundly alienated from their country as to be in some sense foreigners to it. They are hostile to its history and to its core values, which they see as reflections of a society that has been guilty of racism and oppression on an epic scale. And they are fundamentally opposed to its constitutional arrangements which the framers specifically designed to thwart what they deemed “wicked projects” to redistribute income and share individual wealth"

So you don't even know what the single greatest social, political, and economic movement in American history is. That's just sad. And it's unpatriotic to be so ignorant of your country's history, especially the most important parts.

Dan8267 says

Gay marriage is a Constitutional right under the 14th Amendment just like interracial marriage is and for the exact same reasons.

It's not the same thing. Homosexuality is not covered by the 14h. You get equal protection under the law, you can't be a slave, but there is nothing that says homosexual marriage is fine and must be recognized by everyone.

FortWayne says

Dan8267 says

Gay marriage is a Constitutional right under the 14th Amendment just like interracial marriage is and for the exact same reasons.

It's not the same thing. Homosexuality is not covered by the 14h. You get equal protection under the law, you can't be a slave, but there is nothing that says homosexual marriage is fine and must be recognized by everyone.

The 14th Amendment says nothing about interracial marriage, per se, but the case of Loving v. Virginia, decided by the Supreme Court in 1967, upheld that marriage is a human right available to all persons and cannot be denied by the state because doing so violates the 14th Amendment. The case dealt with interracial marriage, but the opinion of the court applies without modification to same-sex marriages.

So no, you are wrong. The very principle of the 14th Amendment and the Supreme Court decision in Loving v. Virginia demands marriage equality. The idea of taking away a human right like marriage from people simply because of what kind of genitalia they have is incompatible with the principles of our nation, particularly the freedom to pursue happiness and to have equal standing under law.

Marriage affects taxation. That alone mandates marriage equality. How can you possibly justify taxing same-sex couples more than opposing-sex couples? How can you justify denying the survival benefits rights of a soldier's widow simply because both the soldier and his or her spouse are the same gender? That's just unamerican.

Dan8267 says

The very principle of the 14th Amendment and the Supreme Court decision in Loving v. Virginia demands marriage equality.

Yes we all have an equal right to marry someone of opposite gender within certain "socially acceptable" parameters. Marriage is a society made up thing, it's an idea that society wants to promote, it's not a right. Hence society can determine what should be considered a "marriage".

FortWayne says

Yes we all have an equal right to marry someone of opposite gender

Why should I accept your assertions that we have a right to marry a partner of the opposing sex but not the same sex? You have said nothing to justify that statement. I have given several rock-solid reasons why this assertion is not true, none of which you or anyone else have refuted.

FortWayne says

Marriage is a society made up thing, it's an idea that society wants to promote, it's not a right.

According to our laws and the Supreme Court, marriage isn't just a right, it's a "fundamental human right". Since the Supreme Court ruled this, it's the law of the land whether you agree with it or not.

Furthermore, "society" does not promote things. Individuals do. Just because you want society to be structure one way doesn't mean everyone else does. Over half of Americans support same-sex marriages

Based on polling in 2015, a majority of Americans (55%) support same-sex marriage, compared with 39% who oppose it.

So if we're going by what "society" wants, you already lost.

You claimed that same-sex marriage was going to destroy our nation because society was entirely based on heterosexual marriage. Well it's been seven months since marriage equality became the law of the land and I haven't noticed even a slight change in day-to-day life and certainly no collapse of civilization like you predicted.

FortWayne says

Hence society can determine what should be considered a "marriage".

And our society has determined that same-sex marriages are marriages equal under law to opposing sex marriages.