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Oklahoma goes to Bernie

And he swiped 1/3 of the vote in the Clinton stronghold Arkansas : o

ALSO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND: Nobody is "winning states" in the Democratic primary. All states use proportional election of delegates for the democratic primary.

So when some drone on TV says that "Hillary won Texas", she did not. She just won more delegates there than what Bernie did.

The Republican party, being a much less democratic institution than the democratic party, allows each state party to select whether to use proportional or winner-takes-all election systems in the primary. They also arrange the primaries so that the early primaries/states use proportional, and the later primaries/states use WTA, presumably to give the impression that the eventual winner has large support, and as a false sign of unity in the party. It is also a method for the establishment to get rid of uundesirable candidates. But their scheme is backfiring on them, with Donald Trump.

TL;DR: Proportional representation is the correct way to do elections, AND Bernie is far from done yet

@justme It's worse than that. The GOP primaries in many states award bonuses for "winning" the state, or like South Carolina, award delegates by who won each Congressional district. Trump won all 50 so he gets all 50 delegates from
South Carolina.
Trump is pulling way ahead without ever approaching a consensus vote for his candidacy. He needs something like 36% vote going forward to clinch the nomination. Anything less and it goes to the old boys at the RNC in Cleveland to decide, and they don't like Trump.
Will they risk making enemies of Trump supporters and nominate Rubio or Cruz? Maybe. They really really hate his ideas for making America great like tariffs and deporting cheap labor ... er, illegals.

Colorado feeling the Bern!

I hope he does well.

Crushing in minnesota

#FeeltheBern

Yet another exciting aspect of the Bernie Sanders campaign is that for once, the state of California WILL MATTER as to whether he gets the nomination or not!

None of you guys have ever heard of superdelegates in the democratic party?. Hillary has them locked already. Hillary had 20% of the delegates before iowa. Unless bernie blows hillary away by over 20% of the pledged delegates he is toast. Not going to happen.

The next round of voting should see much more Bernie and less Hillary. She's won the deep south, but lost consistently in northern states with more educated populace. And marginal states like Nevada were extremely close. The press likes to tout her massive lead, but it's because of all her superdelegate buddies who jumped on her bandwagon from the start. If she and Bernie were running a foot race, this would be like her starting half a mile ahead of the old man.
But what the press isn't saying is that the remaining superdelegates (about half) are uncommitted and could go towards a projected popular winner. If Bernie gains momentum, they may start trickling into his win column. I really hope he can "Barack" her from the nomination. Hehe.

Quigley says

The next round of voting should see much more Bernie and less Hillary. She's won the deep south, but lost consistently in northern states with more educated populace. And marginal states like Nevada were extremely close. The press likes to tout her massive lead, but it's because of all her superdelegate buddies who jumped on her bandwagon from the start. If she and Bernie were running a foot race, this would be like her starting half a mile ahead of the old man.

But what the press isn't saying is that the remaining superdelegates (about half) are uncommitted and could go towards a projected popular winner. If Bernie gains momentum, they may start trickling into his win column. I really hope he can "Barack" her from the nomination. Hehe.

It's surprising to me how many stories there are about Hillary's great night. Definitely she did well, but give Sanders a couple % more in Mass and she wins 6 states to his 5--not exactly a beat down. There are already stories about how her campaign spread vicious rumors in the black community in the South. It's really too bad that Sanders can't win over the African American voters.

Right and like justme said, winning the state isnt such a large feat, when its 52/48, you both get roughly half the delegates

Hilary is ahead but it will be interesting to see how many derelicts and losers she can keep amassing

^ I agree. Sanders had a great night. It will be an interesting month or two from here.

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend.

epitaph says

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend

This gets more clever every time it's posted.

May I suggest you remove the image from the response.

Holding ground, or making up ground

Why does he get NO COVERAGE? Its all about Trumps big dick, and Teds propensity to eat his boogies.

Hell if theyd just cover more of Hillary, it would help Bernie. They cant hide her forever and Americans in general hate her

#feelthebern

I would love for it to come down to a Bernie vs Donald race.
But I'm affraid Bernie doesn't have the whallop that Trump will pack, to take out the corrupt potlical king making process.
That is the number one, and only reason I'm voting for Trump.
If Trump wins regardless how shitty of a President he would be. Which btw I don't think he would have any room to be corrupt or be given enough rope to hang the country.
More than enough to hang himself, but not the country. A Bi-Partisan anti Trump coalition will be waiting for him in Congress. I doubt he'll have much wriggle room other than to do the right thing.
Bernie will be met with the same grid lock but I don't think he would leverage the American people during his SOTU weekly addresses.
That is Trumps primary weapon I see, and his only option and benefit to being President. He knows he will be able to use the Presidency as pulpit to get the constituents engaged with Congress to help get things done. That and if you consider he says he will deal and work and compromise to get things done. He will have more tools to get things accomplished and send the establishement back to the bowels of hell than Bernie will.

Bernie doesn't see the establishment as foes, so they'll crap all over him.

errc says

Why does he get NO COVERAGE?

Because Hillary wouldn't like it. Establishment hates non establishment getting a seat at the table. R's hate Trump, D's hate Bernie. That is how I see it at least.

Would be great to see Bernie and Trump race, not a Romney Hillary shit show.

I'd like to have Bernie beat Hillary but can't see it happen absent of an indictment of Hillary. She's got big money and the lamestream media plus the cultural marxists doing all the dirty work for her.

Marx would shit a brick over Cultural Marxism.

"DAMN YOU! Lumpenproles! De Kapitalist usen der Race and ze Gender to foolen zie! Dummkopf!" *Smashes fist on table, Engels jumps*

Bernie wins Nebraska and Kansas!

Kansas, must be one weird state... Bernie wins that same State Count Chocula does... well, I guess Kansas has a long history of deep division.

Hillary is establishment just to clarify. I'm not a Bernie fan, but I have more faith in him than Hillary.

Bernie vs. Trump would be epic.

Well since cnn are such pussies, im going to put my reputation on the line and call Michigan for Senator Sanders

Hes trouncing Hilary, time to wheel out the real Weekend at Bernies, bill clintons vegetarian corpse

epitaph says

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend.

That is true with pure socialism, but it is equally true that the problem with capitalism is eventually only a very few people end up with all of the money.

Sanders Scores Upset Win Over Clinton in Michigan Primary
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-09/sanders-scores-upset-win-over-clinton-in-michigan-primary
Good job Bernie.

Does any website track the total number of delegates and votes for each candidate?

April 1 2016 update

pledged delegates

IHLary 1267
Bernie 1037

With more Washington state delegates owed to Bernie Sanders yet.

Wisconsin polls show #BernMentum is picking up speed

A new Public Policy Polling survey in Wisconsin, conducted on behalf of VoteVets
Action Fund, finds Bernie Sanders as the favorite in the state’s Democratic primary.
Sanders leads Hillary Clinton 49-43, with 8% of voters still undecided. Clinton leads
among actual Democratic voters in the state, 50-42. But Sanders has an overwhelming
advantage with independents at 62/31, and that gives him the overall advantage in this
open primary. Sanders is strong with voters under 45 (a 65/28 lead), those who identify
as ‘very liberal’ (59/37), and men (56/39). The only group Clinton has a substantial lead with is seniors, at 63/30

If it weren't for the corrupt Democrat Establishment, and senile old kooks, Bernie would have this wrapped up already. And the Trumpkins would be shitting themselves knowing there was pretty much no chance of beating Bernie in the General Election

So who are the "super delegates" that are actively trying to thwart democracy and sabotage the election? Well, most of them are the Establishment LOSERS!!

Democrat Governers 21
Democrat Senators 46
Democrat Reps 193

Their pledged break down is

Governors
Clinton 16
Sanders 0
uncommitted 5

Senators
Clinton 39
Sanders 1 (himself)
uncommitted 6

Representatives
Clinton 166
Sanders 7
uncommitted 20

There you have it, folks. The Democrat party is the big bunch of phony's we always knew they were. Spineless, gutless, hacks, supporting the LOSER and failed candidate IHLary Clinton and all her special interests. Most dangerously, her deep ties with Saudi Arabia and all the money she receives from the funders of 9/11 and the bank-rollers of ISIS.

saroya says

That is true with pure socialism, but it is equally true that the problem with capitalism is eventually only a very few people end up with all of the money.

It's why we do not allow monopolies, to the best of our abilities. But all the socialist countries out there, they are all completely failures, cuba, russia, china...

Bernie is not advocating Socialism. He's pushing good ole fashioned American Democratic Socialism. Kinda like how we are nowhere near a Capitalist country even though some people confuse our brand of Lemon Socialism for Capitalism.

In the DonkeyDen, everyone participating is awarded enough delegates to be the president.
No tears here!

justme says

ALSO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND: Nobody is "winning states" in the Democratic primary

errc says

Spineless, gutless, hacks,

It is called cronyism.

Here in 'Murica we have the best socialism! You'll be cushioned from your bad bets and awful decisions, given money to keep doing what you're doing, and guaranteed immunity from prosecution — IF you're a huge bank!

curious2 says

Does any website track the total number of delegates and votes for each candidate?

First off, it's pretty sad that some loser felt the need to dislike the post referenced above. Really? You really dislike someone asking a non-partisan, completely non-controversial, mundane, and useful question like that? You must really have no life.

Second, yes, Google. delegates democrats republicans and you get both the counts for both parties including the superdelegate pledges.

Oh no, it looks like I upset the official cry-baby of PatNet. It's nice to know he's so obsessed with me he can't even let me answer cursios2's unanswered question without whining like the little bitch he is.

The only time CIC isn't whining is when his mouth is busy servicing glory holes along the New Jersey turnpike. Luckily that accounts for 80% of his day.

I had to put Ironman on Ignore so he doesn't ruin another good thread with his petty personal attacks.

So now I don't see his posts in this thread, and as I understand it, he won't see mine either.

Question is, do those of you who don't have him on ignore, still see his comments in this thread that I posted?